Amoto94:

Between Bowen and Raphinha who is your pick?

Raphinha for me...though Bowen has been really productive this season.

raumdeuter:


How am I creating agenda?

Lets see who is creating agenda between you or me

You are blatantly telling lies about Jorginho not starting vs Spurs first leg, I busted it

You claimed Jorginho does not start the top game vs City and Liverpool I busted the lie

So anyone who tells lies does not have agenda its the person who bust the lie with facts that has an agenda

You are just a pathetic liar. This was what I said.

BikeMan:
Against Liverpool, Jorginho didn't start.
Against City, Jorginho didn't start.

When the going gets tough, you can't trust a midfielder that shivers under press. Tuchel knows this, we know this, donjazet knows too but he just dey use agidi

I corrected my mistake about the Spurs game as I forgot he was the one that partnered Saul. I don't blame you, you don't support any tangible team, that's why you hop from thread to thread looking for unnecessary agenda to stir.

You that support a team with less league titles than Aston villa calling Bayern Munich intangible. Wonders shall never end.

BikeMan:


You are just a pathetic liar. This was what I said.



I corrected my mistake about the Spurs game as I forgot he was the one that partnered Saul. I don't blame you, you don't support any tangible team, that's why you hop from thread to thread looking for unnecessary agenda to stir.

BikeMan:
Against Liverpool, Jorginho didn't start.
Against City, Jorginho didn't start.

When the going gets tough, you can't trust a midfielder that shivers under press. Tuchel knows this, we know this, donjazet knows too but he just dey use agidi

Against Liverpool the game that ended 1-1

Against City that Chelsea lost at Stamford Bridge

Now that we have evidence of Jorginho starting vs Spurs Liverpool and City

So tell another lie

drisham:


I like your honesty boss

If you see anyone protecting and defending Mount here, it’s in defense of attacks from shameless Fraudvertz fanboiz who are yet to admit that Fraudvertz is a flop and generational termite.

BikeMan:

I corrected my mistake about the Spurs game as I forgot he was the one that partnered Saul. I don't blame you, you don't support any tangible team, that's why you hop from thread to thread looking for unnecessary agenda to stir.

Is the below tangible enough

Know your GOAT.


9 league titles in 12years

Pep Guardiola is clear of your favourite.

donstan18:

If you see anyone protecting and defending Mount here, it’s in defense of attacks from shameless Fraudvertz fanboiz who are yet to admit that Fraudvertz is a flop and generational termite.

I couldn't agree less.

Segedinho:

That was how i brought out Joginho's number of matches and u started saying otherwise until I brought receipts.

Maybe you watched the match with agenda cos u already drew out what u might dish after your words of "no team can win d UCL with 3 at d back".

U might think possession and conquering are interwoven.

Tell me how many balls got to our attackers from the midfielders yesterday vs UCL final.

Tell me d chances created?

How many balls d midfielders lost from city's press??

For ur info...their midfielders didn't conquer ours .....there are difference bw better and conquer..

UCL final, UCL final that Pep went gung-ho meaning almost any ball you drop into City's half becomes a counterattack.

Our midfielders didn't drop balls into attackers feet more in UCL final. They dropped less. The difference as I said is Pep is not naive anymore to leave City overstretched at the back. There is a difference between when attackers receive the ball for a 3 v 3 counterattack and when they receive it for a 3 v 5 counterattack. The attack will die more frequently or not be attempted. Not because our two CMs were splitting City open in the UCL final. That's arrant rubbish. The midfield job of giving the attackers ball on the halfway line was achieved more in this game than in the UCL final. The only difference is the quality of attacks from that point (as TT pointed out) and the numbers City left deeper to quash those counterattacks. Some blame the attack. I say it's a combination of poor attack but also the numbers Pep left behind . I am not the only one that noticed it.

Also tell me how the midfield fared in this job in the first leg at Stamford Bridge which is the nearest and most appropriate comparator. You guys think everyday is Christmas and keep getting carried away with high expectations from last season, meanwhile Pep mumu done do and he's no longer exposing his teams to easy counters naively.

Midfield did not do any better in UCL final, the difference is the control of space. You can't name one memorable ball Jogginghoe laid into the attack in that UCL final, and if you want to continue down this unrealistic line, tell me why he couldn't lay balls into the attack at Stamford Bridge in September which was worse than this performance.

Walahi Rafa Benitez cannot deceive me again,I refuse to look at his Liverpool heroics again.He is now an average coach to me.

Ibime:


UCL final, UCL final that Pep went gung-ho meaning almost any ball you drop into City's half becomes a counterattack.

Our midfielders didn't drop balls into attackers feet more in UCL final. They dropped less. The difference as I said is Pep is not naive anymore to leave City overstretched at the back. There is a difference between when attackers receive the ball for a 3 v 3 counterattack and when they receive it for a 3 v 5 counterattack. The attack will die more frequently. Not because our two CMs were splitting City open in the UCL final. That's arrant rubbish. The midfield job of giving the attackers ball on the halfway line was achieved more in this game than in the UCL final. The only difference is the quality of attacks from that point (as TT pointed out) and the numbers City left deeper to quash those counterattacks. Some blame the attack. I say it's a combination of poor attack but also the numbers Pep left behind . I am not the only one that noticed it.

Also tell me how the midfield fared in this job in the first leg at Stamford Bridge which is the nearest and most appropriate comparator. You guys think everyday is Christmas and keep getting carried away with high expectations from last season, meanwhile Pep mumu done do and he's no longer exposing his teams to easy counters naively.

So according to u..pep was naive in d 3 encounter we had

When TT said he had learnt his lesson..what was he talking about..??his approach was to contain city and never cared about creativity so he over-crowded d midfields with 3 non-creative minds...

See...my opinion about d dead midfields in d just concluded match isn't solely on kova-kante ...it included both pulisic and ziyech who were too lazy to help out....

But the core of d problem was kovacic and Kante who were just below what was expected...

Ziyech was dead in sync both d attack and d mid...Nobody was readily available to do a quickie with Kante .......

popizaino:
Walahi Rafa Benitez cannot deceive me again,I refuse to look at his Liverpool heroics again.He is now an average coach to me.

Moving to Everton was too desperate and a wrong move, he was never going to get the support of the fan base.

Roland17:


Moving to Everton was too desperate and a wrong move, he was never going to get the support of the fan base.

He should have tried hard by beating Liverpool in the Merseyside derby and the support would surely have been coming in, but the guy is another mourinho, declining year after year.

Segedinho:

So according to u..pep was naive in d 3 encounter we had

When TT said he had learnt his lesson..what was he talking about..??his approach was to contain city and never cared about creativity so he over-crowded d midfields with 3 non-creative minds...

See...my opinion about d dead midfields in d just concluded match isn't solely on kova-kante ...it included both pulisic and ziyech who were too lazy to help out....

But the core of d problem was kovacic and Kante who were just below what was expected...

Ziyech was dead in sync both d attack and d mid...Nobody was readily available to do a quickie with Kante .......

So you've gone from Jogginghoe absence being the cause to adding Ziyech and Puli to the mix.

For the purpose of this discussion, Ziyech and Puli is part of the attack that failed in counterattack transitions according to TT, not part of the midfield.

You said Jogginghoe was the one pinging balls to the attack but I'm sure you can't recall one such incident in the UCL final. What happens in the UCL final is Kante, Mount or Werner receive the ball on halfway line, they see City don't have many players back and they run. As far as them receiving the ball on that halfway line, we did not do more in the UCL final than we did yesterday. The chances to run were just less due to City controlling their backspaces, not because Jogginghoe was absent to play his 30 backpasses that have nothing to do with them receiving the ball on halfway line. Kova pass for Lukakus chance yesterday was more evidence of progressive play than anything you can recall from Jogginghoe in UCL final

Anyway, TT disagreed with you, most observers disagreed with you, so you can say anything to console yourself about the absence of the jogger, it doesn't matter.

raumdeuter:




Against Liverpool the game that ended 1-1

Against City that Chelsea lost at Stamford Bridge

Now that we have evidence of Jorginho starting vs Spurs Liverpool and City

So tell another lie

Do you argue for a living? The games I was referring to were obvious. Did Jorginho start against City or did he start against Liverpool when we played 2:2. I don't have the time to explain obvious statements to someone that is neither a fan or rival please.

Segedinho:

Had it be joginho was d one dat gave grealish dat breakfast.

Jogginghoe gave City 4 breakfast in the UCL final. Two of them were full English breakfast. Rudiger and Chilwell saved it with last minute blocks

BikeMan:
Do you argue for a living? The games I was referring to were obvious. Did Jorginho start against City or did he start against Liverpool when we played 2:2. I don't have the time to explain obvious statements to someone that is neither a fan or rival please.

Were the games I highlghted not vs the same City and Liverpool?

popizaino:



He should have tried hard by beating Liverpool in the Merseyside derby and the support would surely have been coming in, but the guy is another mourinho, declining year after year.

The minute Everton had a bad patch, they were always going to turn against him. Players who want to be lazy will also down tools knowing he can't last long. It just won't work long term and I don't know how Everton board thought it could.

popizaino:



He should have tried hard by beating Liverpool in the Merseyside derby and the support would surely have been coming in, but the guy is another mourinho, declining year after year.

That is what becomes of coaches who only focus on defence. They wnt be able to string a coherent attacking pattern to survive

Mahrez will be coming home unless they beat Ivory Coast next game. That will be one of our major rivals out if that happens

Segedinho:

Now...

How many times did out front 3 received d ball from the midfield compared with theirs.

Grealish was more useless but still they over-ran us...

Yeah..both pulisic and ziyech were useless but it must be lukaku who even tested d keeper that must be castigated...


To hell with una agenda......

Everything is not agenda.

Happy Sunday.

hensben:
Didnt Jorginho play first leg? Accept attack bleeped the team up.

I wondered if this same Jorginho didn't play the first leg.

Ibime:
Mahrez will be coming home unless they beat Ivory Coast next game. That will be one of our major rivals out if that happens

Everything working in Fraudiola's favour.
Even covid, they no gree get.

BlueRayDick:

Okay thanks , I’ve just confirmed myself , u guys later registered one shot on target and two off target at the end of 90min

We no blame you

popizaino:
Walahi Rafa Benitez cannot deceive me again,I refuse to look at his Liverpool heroics again.He is now an average coach to me.

Can Pep transform Everton?

Ibime:


So you've gone from Jogginghoe absence being the cause to adding Ziyech and Puli to the mix.

For the purpose of this discussion, Ziyech and Puli is part of the attack that failed in counterattack transitions according to TT, not part of the midfield.

You said Jogginghoe was the one pinging balls to the attack but I'm sure you can't recall one such incident in the UCL final. What happens in the UCL final is Kante, Mount or Werner receive the ball on halfway line, they see City don't have many players back and they run. As far as them receiving the ball on that halfway line, we did not do more in the UCL final than we did yesterday. The chances to run were just less due to City controlling their backspaces, not because Jogginghoe was absent to play his 30 backpasses that have nothing to do with them receiving the ball on halfway line. Kova pass for Lukakus chance yesterday was more evidence of progressive play than anything you can recall from Jogginghoe in UCL final

Anyway, TT disagreed with you, most observers disagreed with you, so you can say anything to console yourself about the absence of the jogger, it doesn't matter.

You sha wan spoon-feed Segedinho.

Skimpledawg:

We no blame you

donstan18:

Can Pep transform Everton?

You and this your abstract questions self? You go think say na only you get this kind take.You will be looking for loopholes were there is none Baba Mount.


Oya solve this puzzle.


Why didn't Rafa Benitez transform Real Madrid?

Think4Yourself:

Pls can you all allow this coaches to take responsibilities for once without bringing all this washed up stories in their defence? When the going is good we don't hear them but once there is a slip up, that when media will be cooking up stories and gullible fans will start spreading them around like you are doing. Let Ancelotti start having bad results now, that is when we would start hearing he wanted to sell modric in the summer and bring back ronaldo, exchange vinicius with mbappe but real Madrid board didn't agree.

NinjaXmetahuman:
Everything working in Fraudiola's favour.
Even covid, they no gree get.

Pls tell everyone how many point this so important Mahrez has won for pep guardiola side this season?

Ibime:


So you've gone from Jogginghoe absence being the cause to adding Ziyech and Puli to the mix.

For the purpose of this discussion, Ziyech and Puli is part of the attack that failed in counterattack transitions according to TT, not part of the midfield.

You said Jogginghoe was the one pinging balls to the attack but I'm sure you can't recall one such incident in the UCL final. What happens in the UCL final is Kante, Mount or Werner receive the ball on halfway line, they see City don't have many players back and they run. As far as them receiving the ball on that halfway line, we did not do more in the UCL final than we did yesterday. The chances to run were just less due to City controlling their backspaces, not because Jogginghoe was absent to play his 30 backpasses that have nothing to do with them receiving the ball on halfway line. Kova pass for Lukakus chance yesterday was more evidence of progressive play than anything you can recall from Jogginghoe in UCL final

Anyway, TT disagreed with you, most observers disagreed with you, so you can say anything to console yourself about the absence of the jogger, it doesn't matter.

Where did I said joginho absent was d reason we lost..


I said d midfield was damn cos both Kante n kovacic were shit and over powered...


No one to receive d ball and do a quickie..

Ziyech n pulisic didn't help also...

Also pointed out that a fit joginho would help in d quickie....

Oga o...u can lie o.....joginho with long ball?u just have to bring were I said so ..

Chances created disagree with ur d 2nd bolded.

About our core mid...my favourite there is Kante.. closely followed by kovacic just incase u are thinking otherwise..

I defend and criticise any chelsea players depending on what dey play..

Xterday match was as a result of Kante and kovacic being conquered.

I said from the onset that ziyech and pulisic didn't help out and were extremely lazy..


Joginho was absent and u are looking for way to blame him ..does that sounds normal?

You said TT blamed d attackers but when thesame TT praises joginho after a match ...u will disagree bringing gifs.

Attacks will always be blunt when there isn't any help from d midfields.....

Pulisic and ziyech didn't help out in d mid d way a fit mount does ...