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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:20pm On Jan 18, 2022
IDENNAA:


Maduka, though not English has been shaky , dear. His apparent lack of confidence compel people to think he is a disaster waiting to happen. I am not the only one thinking like this.

Meanwhile , I still don't rate English players, however, I will take a Dutch Nigerian , German Nigerian and Nigerian talian.

Keepers grow in confidence the more games they play. Disaster in the making is a stretch

However, if it is any consolation, Maduka is a German Nigerian, so, expect him to come good
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:24pm On Jan 18, 2022
Astrid4:


Safari I understand your point perfectly
And I share of your sentiment
But it a win-win for Nigeria if he continue to play for Watford in his red-hot form; we are gonna be having a top player in a top club he is already linked with top European club already, it not that we really miss Dennis, I prefer the way him playing every week for Watford than for him to sitting down on the bench in super eagles I hope you share this sentiment too.

If we have top player in a top club wey dey select when and where to play for us, is there any point to it? And will you ever get the best out of him?

His call-up will be at the discretion of NFF and the coach, but for now, I no too dey rate am as anything, because once again, I've never actually seen him play for us. Great player in club, does not always translate to great player for country.

For now, I am indifferent towards him, if he come or if he no come, na him sabi. AFCON would have also been a great way to boost his market, no be to siddon for EPL dey follow Watford chop L
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:24pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


Jealousy from who? The people that abandoned Mendy?

Funny how that initial post was just me catching cruise, and people come carry the matter for head, make me dey write epistle on Psychology and Sociology of the human mind.

Some days back, I was talking about my love for psychology, and some people are trying to streamline my thought process to just football.

I would have loved to see their second choice and 3rd choice sha ,I am sure mendy will be there

My jealousy talk Na just cruise jare

If I am to vote as a club captain the only way I will vote mendy is because he is my teammate ,I still think Donnaruma was better .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Astrid4(m): 3:27pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


If we have top player in a top club wey dey select when and where to play for us, is there any point to it? And will you ever get the best out of him?

His call-up will be at the discretion of NFF and the coach, but for now, I no too dey rate am as anything, because once again, I've never actually seen him play for us. Great player in club, does not always translate to great player for country.

For now, I am indifferent towards him, if he come or if he no come, na him sabi. AFCON would have also been a great way to boost his market, no be to siddon for EPL dey follow Watford chop L

I understand your sentiment perfectly
Let's him settle down in Watford first he has faced alot in the past season for Germany. I understand he was not the only one that decline even olise declined an invitation cos of club commitment. I hope Dennis all the best anyways.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:27pm On Jan 18, 2022
DarkJeddi:
Osimehn was diagnosed with Covid-19..

That was the main reason he is not in camp..

That and the fact that he was already carrying an injury..

He is a human being..

One setback was enough..

Throwing in another was more than he could manage..

You have to be mentally in a right frame to give your best..

Yes that was why he could play yesterday
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Alfryd: 3:28pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


No

Yes

Anymore questions?

lol
you really make me laugh

I just dey reason the man wey go marry you, because your character no different from Edo, Delta women own


I must talk my own woman
no nonsense woman
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by WoundedLamb: 3:30pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


You people will one day know the difference between racism and ethnocentrism.

One is an unreasonable hate for another group

The other is love for your own people over others.

Racism is bad. Ethnocentrism is good.

The Japanese for instance, are ethnocentric, they are not racist.

Not everything is racist, and wanting people who look like you to get their well deserved accolades, can NEVER be racism

Hi Dear!

You probably meant patriotism? I'm asking cause what you defined is not really enthnocentrism.

Ethnocentrism is using your own culture/way of life as the standard to evaluate or judge other people's lifestyle. It is the assumption that your own way of life is the natural or correct one. It is a form of ethnic bias.

According to Oxford bibliographies, ethnocentrism is a term applied to the cultural or ethnic bias—whether conscious or unconscious—in which an individual views the world from the perspective of his or her own group, establishing the in-group as archetypal and rating all other groups with reference to this ideal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 3:33pm On Jan 18, 2022
WoundedLamb:


Hi Dear!

You probably meant patriotism? I'm asking cause what you defined is not really enthnocentrism.

Ethnocentrism is using your own culture/way of life as the standard to evaluate or judge other people's lifestyle. It is the assumption that your own way of life is the natural or correct one. It is a form of ethnic bias.

According to Oxford bibliographies, ethnocentrism is a term applied to the cultural or ethnic bias—whether conscious or unconscious—in which an individual views the world from the perspective of his or her own group, establishing the in-group as archetypal and rating all other groups with reference to this ideal.
Believing that your ethnic group is better than other ethnic groups
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:34pm On Jan 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:


I would have loved to see their second choice and 3rd choice sha ,I am sure mendy will be there

My jealousy talk Na just cruise jare

If I am to vote as a club captain the only way I will vote mendy is because he is my teammate ,I still think Donnaruma was better .

I do not think Donnaruma was better last season

And when faced with two players that had an almost similar season, I will only vote Donnaruma because he is in my club, because based on numbers, Stats for Stats, Donnaruma is definitely not better.

Na bias go make you choose Donnaruma, not the numbers. Na wetin I just wan establish be that, and that is fine.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by dkay51(m): 3:35pm On Jan 18, 2022
BascoVanVeli:


There's little to no drop off in physicality from Etebo to Aribo

This particular one na lie grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:38pm On Jan 18, 2022
WoundedLamb:


Hi Dear!

You probably meant patriotism? I'm asking cause what you defined is not really enthnocentrism.

Ethnocentrism is using your own culture/way of life as the standard to evaluate or judge other people's lifestyle. It is the assumption that your own way of life is the natural or correct one. It is a form of ethnic bias.

According to Oxford bibliographies, ethnocentrism is a term applied to the cultural or ethnic bias—whether conscious or unconscious—in which an individual views the world from the perspective of his or her own group, establishing the in-group as archetypal and rating all other groups with reference to this ideal.

Nah, I did not mean patriotism.

Patriotism is related to country, you can be an ethnocentrist, but not a patriot. For instance, a lot of Igbo people can be said to be ethnocentric, but they don't give two shits about Nigeria.

I mean ethnocentrism, because I do not think there is a term for it on a race scale, however, ethnicity is the closest thing I can think of, that can relate to race, that's why I used the term.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:43pm On Jan 18, 2022
Alfryd:


lol
you really make me laugh

I just dey reason the man wey go marry you, because your character no different from Edo, Delta women own


I must talk my own woman
no nonsense woman

No reason who I go marry, I no sure say I go marry sef, I just wan dey quarrel with men on internet, I no too like them pass like that.

Most of them, nothing wey pass sex for their mind, and nothing wey dey like sex for my own. Different values and beliefs. The ones wey I align with, are usually AS like me, so, me and marriage no too get talk.

But thanks for the comparison, my mama na Delta woman, and that is where I most align with.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:46pm On Jan 18, 2022
jihday:
listened to some of her songs, she sings in Yoruba, pidgin and English
And we having foreign born players dates back to the 70s. Ghanaians like also played for the Nigerian national team like Anas Ahmed who chose playing for Nigeria over ruling on his traditional stool, Sani Mohammed, Yakubu Mohammed and others. Check this link:
https://ng.opera.news/ng/en/sports/amp/871b2cb7c3a4adc347ce92b1dad297b8
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by WoundedLamb: 3:48pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


Nah, I did not mean patriotism.

Patriotism is related to country, you can be an ethnocentrist, but not a patriot. For instance, a lot of Igbo people can be said to be ethnocentric, but they don't give two shits about Nigeria.

I mean ethnocentrism, because I do not think there is a term for it on a race scale, however, ethnicity is the closest thing I can think of, that can relate to race, that's why I used the term.

Well, I think your choice of word might not really do justice to your message. You meant the love one has for his ethnic group. Ethnocentrism, on the other hand, is the belief that one's ethnicity is the ultimate standard.

Anyway, the most important thing is that your message is not clear. smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:50pm On Jan 18, 2022
WoundedLamb:


Well, I think your choice of word might not really do justice to your message. You meant the love one has for his ethnic group. Ethnocentrism, on the other hand, is the belief that one's ethnicity is the ultimate standard.

Anyway, the most important thing is that your message is not clear. smiley

Yes, ethnocentrism is the belief that one's ethnic group is superior. Racism is belief that other races are inferior.

Ethnocentrism is not bad, Racism is bad.

My message is clear to who wants it to be clear to them. No be everybody suppose understand everything, sometimes, we only understand as far as we want to.

If someone brings up quantum physics now, no be everybody go understand am.

Your understanding is up to you smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:52pm On Jan 18, 2022
Joezinho:


We don't have a playmaker to spray the ball accurately to the flanks. I laugh when some peeps said Ejuke should play the No 10 role.. Ejuke is not a playmaker never was, never will be.. He's not a Jayjay and btw, the days of Jayjay and co has gone. A dribbler in the middle of the pack will be the downfall of any team..

Our traditional strength has always been getting the ball to pacy winger who can deliver the ball in the box to pacy strikers. Chuks is pacy but how many decent crosses does he deliver?

It's been embarrassing watching Moses Simon not able to deliver crosses on target..
Do you know that I was thinking of Jay Jay this morning. Guy, he had immense stamina. He used to be everywhere: deep in our half, the center, attack, left flank, right flank as in everywhere, opening up for a pass, sometimes retrieving balls, spraying passes, generally keep things going and he'd play 90 minutes. If only his end product matched his busyness on the pitch he would have been something else.

Forget it, Ejuke can't play 10 not even necessarily like Jay Jay but any 10 at all

This inverted wingers is a let down for us sort of. We have always had good crossers of the ball but since Moses left, we have struggled to find good crossers. I really do not like Ikedia type of wingers and that is how I see our current wingers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Grozny: 3:53pm On Jan 18, 2022
I pray that Haller et al. finish off whatever's left of the Algerians.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:54pm On Jan 18, 2022
Mujtahida:

Do you know that I was thinking of Jay Jay this morning. Guy, he had immense stamina. He used to be everywhere: deep in our half, the center, attack, left flank, right flank as in everywhere, opening up for a pass, sometimes retrieving balls, spraying passes, generally keep things going and he'd play 90 minutes. If only his end product matched his busyness on the pitch he would have been something else.

Forget it, Ejuke can't play 10 not even necessarily like Jay Jay but any 10 at all

This inverted wingers is a let down for us sort of. We have always had good crossers of the ball but since Moses left, we have struggled to find good crossers. I really do not like Ikedia type of wingers and that is how I see our current wingers.

Don't worry, Nwakali is a good crosser. He just hasn't had the opportunity to start and show off what he is made of.

Your crossing woes are about to be over.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:55pm On Jan 18, 2022
Grozny:
I pray that Haller et al. finish off whatever's left of the Algerians.

Amen

You know what they say about floodgates opening
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:55pm On Jan 18, 2022
Danielnino00:


One of the reason why Iwobi is best suited for the center is because when you play him on the flank, he won't stay there...He is always drifting into the middle..It used to be a problem back then because we didn't have an offensive minded RB..Shehu was the one manning the post and he was a liability on the offense...With Aina, I think Iwobi can thrive in that role..
His drifting in-field is instinctive. Man knows that is where he belongs. And he's been effective for us from the middle. His interchange with Aina should be worked on as an aspect of our wing play.

Shehu was one of those make-shift misfits of Baba Rohr. He should be saying bye bue to the NT
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DarkJeddi(m): 3:57pm On Jan 18, 2022
forgiveness:


Yes that was why he could play yesterday
Not that simple..

He had a major facial injury..

Which had already put his participation in jeopardy..

He declared himself fit..

Against his club's wish..

Only to be hit with Covid on the eve of the tournament..

You want to blame him for feeling it's one setback too many?

I certainly don't..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Grozny: 3:58pm On Jan 18, 2022
wink shocked The potency of losing to lower opposition

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:59pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


Don't worry, Nwakali is a good crosser. He just hasn't had the opportunity to start and show off what he is made of.

Your crossing woes are about to be over.
You want IDENNA to rejoice abi. Nwakali doesn't play from the wings so I guess you are being sarcastic

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:01pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


I do not think Donnaruma was better last season

And when faced with two players that had an almost similar season, I will only vote Donnaruma because he is in my club, because based on numbers, Stats for Stats, Donnaruma is definitely not better.

Na bias go make you choose Donnaruma, not the numbers. Na wetin I just wan establish be that, and that is fine.

No be bias ooo

Mendy was best GK at the champions league for sure

Donarumma was seria A best GK and euros 2020 players of the tournament

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:02pm On Jan 18, 2022
Grozny:
wink shocked The potency of losing to lower opposition

Isn't God good?

They were hustling to push World Cup playoff draws till the end of this month just so Nigeria could conveniently drop down to 6th in Africa and their dearly beloved Egypt would join the big boys in Top 5

They did not imagine AFCON would rubbish their plans. Look at Nigeria going up

I pray Algeria and Egypt get matched for their own playoffs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by WoundedLamb: 4:05pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


Yes, ethnocentrism is the belief that one's ethnic group is superior. Racism is belief that other races are inferior.

Ethnocentrism is not bad, Racism is bad.

My message is clear to who wants it to be clear to them. No be everybody suppose understand everything, sometimes, we only understand as far as we want to.

If someone brings up quantum physics now, no be everybody go understand am.

Your understanding is up to you smiley

Nope, permit me to disagree. Ethnocentrism is an ethnic bias. Judging other people using your own culture as a standard is a natural source of intolerance/conflict because no culture is a standard. You can love your ethnic group without being ethnocentric. Believing your race, ethnic group, etc. is superior is exactly what leads to racism. This isn't just about my understanding. This is a word that has a clear definition. Whatever different understand could there be? I'm interested to learn.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:05pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


There is nothing more blind than voting for Alisson over Mendy, because Alisson was not even one of the top goalkeepers in the year under review.

If na clear eye Salah use vote, Alisson was not an option
Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:05pm On Jan 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:


No be bias ooo

Mendy was best GK at the champions league for sure

Donarumma was seria A best GK and euros 2020 players of the tournament


Like I said, if you look at their Stats, na bias

Clean sheet for clean sheet, Mendy beat Donnaruma. No be Mendy fault say Donnaruma no qualify for Champions League and no be Mendy fault say he no fit play Euros or Serie A, even Europa wey Donnaruma go, na to mark present.

Let everybody hold their own bias. The two of them were leveled and the only thing that could separate them is personal bias. You prefer Donny, I prefer Mendy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:06pm On Jan 18, 2022
BascoVanVeli:


Ah but he is their captain at the AFCON and has been wearing the band for a while now. Maybe he left it to someone else so it didn't seem like he was the one voting against Alisson grin

Koulibally hasn’t been available since .

Isn’t he their captain ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:06pm On Jan 18, 2022
WoundedLamb:


Nope, permit me to disagree. Ethnocentrism is an ethnic bias. Judging other people using your own culture as a standard is a natural source of intolerance/conflict because no culture is a standard. You can love your ethnic group without being ethnocentric. Believing your race, ethnic group, etc. is superior is exactly what leads to racism. This isn't just about my understanding. This is a word that has a clear definition. Whatever different understand could there be? I'm interested to learn.

Ok

You are permitted to disagree
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:07pm On Jan 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Koulibally hasn’t been available since .

Isn’t he their captain ?
Yeah, Koulibaly is their captain

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:07pm On Jan 18, 2022
safarigirl:


Like I said, if you look at their Stats, na bias

Clean sheet for clean sheet, Mendy beat Donnaruma. No be Mendy fault say Donnaruma no qualify for Champions League and no be Mendy fault say he no fit play Euros or Serie A, even Europa wey Donnaruma go, na to mark present.

Let everybody hold their own bias. The two of them were leveled and the only thing that could separate them is personal bias. You prefer Donny, I prefer Mendy.

Nothing bad in preferring mendy nao ,dude was a beast last season

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