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Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 11:21am On Jan 21, 2022 |
In saudi, UAE, a ritualist when caught will never make tomorrow, He will be killed instantly. ISLAM FOR YOU. With this type of punishment many will be saved, many will leave ritual and start earning legally. Many innocent souls will live long and see their grandsons. What of 9ja? The ritualist will be forgiven, next morning after his release many people will be killed. In a year, 1000s of people will be killed by a single useless person. With this, you will know islam is the best system for mankind ever. Don't tell me what terrorists are doing, they are not among muslims, the are ignorant and out of us. And not following the teachings 3 Likes |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by AutoC: 11:22am On Jan 21, 2022 |
NoSentiment: You said bible is curropt and you still quote thesame bible to validate your point...I don't get it ...did you also quote the fact that he called him father in those verses u mentioned just to prove that he is a son of God?? 2 Likes |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by RightChannel: 11:23am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Adlac: You'll be alright Las Las it's just a matter of time |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by gaskiyamagana: 11:27am On Jan 21, 2022 |
GreatAxeMan:Christianizingly doctored. Quote more to ridicule yourself and the likes in hatred for spreading of Islam. 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 11:30am On Jan 21, 2022 |
AutoC: Bible, the most corrupted, modified book ever. Meanwhile, the Quran was never altered. We stand, We move 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 11:32am On Jan 21, 2022 |
gaskiyamagana: He will only spread, see, muslims have this joy of non-muslims 'spreading' the message to those that didn't got the message. Let me seat and wait for more juicy sayings of our 'beloved prophet' from a kafir. It well 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by motayoayinde: 11:36am On Jan 21, 2022 |
RightChannel: STOP SINGING A STALE SONG AND ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHAT BOOK DO YOU FOLLOW? IS LYING AND SWEARING FALSELY TO AN OATH WRITTEN IN THERE? |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 11:53am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Muslims didn't rush to Christians thread to criticize them, why are they doing that to us? Is this what other religions encouraged? Hating others? Why make a false oath to represent your religion? Is your God a liar? Pls respect who respected you, stay out of people businesses. Back to topic: Jazakallah for reminder 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Agbegbaorogboye: 11:55am On Jan 21, 2022 |
AntiChristian: So after all the burantashi and kayan mata, you people want to turn heaven to pornhub? Una no dey tire? You have still not told us what your many women in heaven will be doing while you're having sex with you everlasting erection. 5 Likes
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Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Friend22(m): 11:59am On Jan 21, 2022 |
GreatAxeMan: You are so foolish that you don't know anyone to tell you that. You think we shy away from saying that is not part of what we believe. So,to your demented self ,sex is a bad thing? I guess when you dad meet your mum he blew her a kiss and viola! You were born! Don't you see how stupid some of you are. Sex is meant to enjoyed by those who are married ;and sex is not a bad act in and of it self except when done outside the scope of allowance. How deluded can a kafir be! 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by RightChannel: 12:10pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
motayoayinde: As if you have answered my question, Where is Amen written in Quran? Is your allah an audio god one can accept by clicking? Is a question just answer 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by AutoC: 12:18pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls: Where is your prove that Quoram is not curropted sir...don't just say it ...give me prove. And next time, before u come here to talk do ur research, Quoran has been edited overtime go online and read about *I‘jām or nuqat al-I'jam, it was added in later Arabic (possibly around 700 CE) so that letters (mostly consonants, such as these five letters ـبـ ـتـ ـثـ ـنـ ـيـ ; y, n, th, t, b) could be distinguished. *Ḥarakāt or nuqaṭ ali'rab (examples in blue) indicate other vocalizations -- short vowels, nunization, glottal stops, long consonants. Variations among Qira'at mostly involve harakat. Besides, Qouram contains many errors and contradictions I'll.mention few for you below, 1. No Creator except Allah (35:3; 36:81) CONTRADITIONS -There are several Creators (37:125,126; 56:59) 2. Only Allah knows the hidden things (6:59) Cintradictiin -Jesus knew the hidden things (3:49) I have many of them 3 Likes |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 12:32pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
AutoC: This rubbish you just wrote is not making sense. You are telling me to go and learn arabic language instead of telling me: When, the Quran was modified Why, the Quran was modified How, the Quran was modified Who, modified the Holy Book ...... For your info, Quran was, and still in the hearts of men and women, memorized, no modifications should be made to it while We muslims didn't detected it. For over 1000yrs now, no single Huruf was altered. Disbelievers have tried since your grandpa wasn't born to tell lies like yours without success. Backup. About contradictions, you have to spend decades learning arabic before I can argue wit you, arabic is a wide language not for disbelievers to dewel in and translate. Even before that,the verses you quote are not fulfilling your aim, go and reread the book boy |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 12:47pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
RightChannel: Some scholars say ameen is the abbreviation of the word Allaahummastajib lana which means "Oh Allah accept our invocation" or O Allah, respond to, (or answer) what we have said. Other scholars say it is derived from the word Āmana (Arabic: آمن) which means So be it There are many ahadith which state the importance of Ameen. Some say that if our saying Ameen coincides with that of the angels our previous sins get washed away. Also a few hadiths say that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) used to say it after finishing Surah Fatihah and he used to say it loudly. Saying it is a sunnah. It means you can chose not to do it. Hadith about Ameen - Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 2 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “When the Imam says: ‘Ghair-il-Maghdubi ‘Alaihim Walad-Dallin (i.e. not the path of those who earn Your Anger, nor the path of those who went astray (1:7)), then you must say, ‘Ameen’, for if one's utterance of ‘Ameen’ coincides with that of the angels, then his past sins will be forgiven.” Muslim :: Book 4 : Hadith 828 Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) while teaching us (the principles of faith), said: Do not try to go ahead of the Imam, recite takbir when he recites it. and when he says:" Nor of those who err," you should say Amin, bow down when lie bows down, and when he says:" Allah listens to him who praises Him," say:" O Allah, our Lord, to Thee be the praise". Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 12 :: Hadith 747 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Say Amin" when the Imam says it and if the Amin of any one of you coincides with that of the angels then all his past sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab said, "Allah's Apostle used to Say "Amin." Dawud :: Book 3 : Hadith 938 Narrated AbuZuhayr an-Numayri: AbuMisbah al-Muqra'i said: We used to sit in the company of AbuZuhayr an-Numayri. He was a companion of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), and he used to narrate good traditions. Once a man from among us made a supplication. He said: End it with the utterance of Amin, for Amin is like a seal on the book. AbuZuhayr said: I shall tell you about that. We went out with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) one night and came upon a man who made supplication with persistence. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) waited to hear him. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He will have done something which guarantees (Paradise for him) if he puts a seal to it. One of the people asked: What should he use as a seal? He replied: Amin, for if he ends it with Amin, he will do something which guarantees (Paradise for him). Then the man who questioned the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) came to the man who was supplicating, and said to him: So-and-so, end it with Amin and receive the good news. These are the words of Mahmud. There are more proofs. |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Ibaaboy(m): 12:48pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
Muslims and toto na 5&6 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by motayoayinde: 12:56pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
Friend22: I LIKE THIS RESPONSE. JAZAAKALLAH. ISLAM IS VERY POSITIVE AND VERY FRANK ABOUT SEXUAL MATTERS. THERE ARE RULES GUIDING ITS USE FOR LAWFUL PLEASURE AND STRICT RULES TO GUARD AGAINST ITS MISUSE. THIS IS CLEARLY THE REASON WHY MUSLIM SOCIETIES ARE RELETIVELY MORE SEXUALLY DECENT AROUND THE WORLD. 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by AutoC: 1:03pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls: You just hide under arabic language when ire slammed with truth.... give me prove stop blabing Explain Surah 9 vs 111 to me |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 1:27pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
AutoC: I will explain Q9:111 to you, We will get there, but first: Baba mister know all: When, the Quran was modified Why, the Quran was modified How, the Quran was modified Who, modified the Holy Book Please Mr. Historian, pls tell me: When, the Quran was modified Why, the Quran was modified How, the Quran was modified Who, modified the Holy Book Dont go OFF ROAD .... ANSWER, REAL ANSWER PLS, otherwise |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Thelife: 1:36pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
NoSentiment: Is that what God himself tell you in your dream. You Head slammers are really hilarious �� |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Thelife: 1:46pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
NoSentiment: Your hatred won't allow you to leave Christian alone, well I'm not surprise even your gigolo fake prophet mumuhamed spent his lifetime been obsessed with Jew and Christian So back to your stupidity, Jesus pray like mumuslim? You must be kidding when did Jesus perform a gymnastic exercise in the name of prayer? When you head slammer want to disgrace yourself and start hammering on Jesus been God but neglect Jesus been Son of God. Really, Jesus said " Assalamu alaykum" so Jesus speak Arabic
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Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 1:53pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
Thelife: Jesus did it bro. Bible is corrupted and altered, U remove what you don't want and what you want, So everything relating to prayer you guys have removed it from bible, whats next you think Come, let me tell you something, ablution is done 5 times daily, so as prayer, since time immemorial, and we, our sons will continue our SALAT for decades to come |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Thelife: 1:56pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls: He asked for quranic verse you are quoting haddith or has your allah start speaking through haddith too? Dumb fellow, someone gave you a prove of your quran been corrupt instead of you to refute him,you are telling him to go and learn Arabic, well I'm not surprise, you can't be a mumuslim and still be sane. 1 Like |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by AutoC: 1:59pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls: Since ure basing your conversation on my answer..I'll respond to you as long as you remain civil in your conversation When, the Quran was modified Original quoran was written by scribesjnto many books following recitation from Mohamed...the first compilation was done by Abu Bakr https://www.dailysabah.com/feature/2017/06/02/history-of-the-compilation-of-quran First modification was done in 700CE and that's Why I asked you to look up Qira'at Why, the Quran was modified It contained many punctuation errors and reading it in was difficult-again vowels and consonants in Arabic had to be introduced How, the Quran was modified Look up Quoranic Othography Historian told us this was ordered by Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan, he selected some folks who he referred to as 'knowledgeable' to do it I Who, modified the Holy Book ?I have answered you Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan That was the first one...if u wana debate me let's do it online 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Thelife: 2:04pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls: Who is your bro? Hope all is well. Show us where Jesus perform those gymnastics exercise that was in that picture, or is that not the way you head slammer pray again Here come the dummy. That's the reason why you are asked to educate yourself about the useless book you are carrying around, if you know the history of the book you are carrying around you won't be showing your ignorance around. So funny but shite solat is done 6 times daily guess you are such an illiterate not to know this |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Thelife: 2:07pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
AutoC: Don't mind the educated illiterate, they are complaining that Christian are invading there page but they can never have a topic without mentioning Christian,Christianity, Bible or Jews in it, yet they are complaining people are invading their privacy. 2 Likes |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by AutoC: 2:14pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
Thelife: Just give them 20% of attack they direct towards chrtianity...they will go insane... I hope he knows that Mohamed instructed that anyone who belive in Alah but does not belive in Zakat as a Muslim should be beheaded ?? I'm waiting for his response 3 Likes |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Agbegbaorogboye: 2:14pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
Friend22: Interesting!! That means you will still be getting pregnant and giving birth in Al-Janna Let's hope there are hospitals and doctors over there then. We want our virgins to have safe delivery. Can you tell us what you will be doing to keep boredom away when your 72 virgins are pregnant though? Get another set? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by advocatejare(m): 2:14pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls:Who used to tell you those lies abeg? Muhammad died in 632 AD Abu Bakr the first Caliph ruled for 2 years during which he started the first compilation and he completed it before he died and kept it. The second caliph Umar ruled for 10 years from 634-644AD and he was in custody of manuscripts until he died after which Hafsa his daughter kept custody of it. During the rule of Uthman (who ruled 12years after Muhammad had died) that is more than 12 years after the first Quran was compiled. Uthman ruled for 12years so in between those 12 years while he was ruling, people called his attention to the different ways people were reciting the Quran (which has been the norm even when Muhammad was alive and he didn't think of unifying the Quran into one dialect because Muhammad himself said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects) But Uthman decided to unify the Quran into one standardized version when neither Allah nor Muhammad gave him such Instruction when he was alive. So Uthman sent for the manuscript with Hafsa "...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham [b]to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 So Uthman then ordered his scribes to write the new Quran in the dialect of the Quraysh and when they were done with their editing and standardization they buried the evidence of their alterations by burning the evidence. "...'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, [color=990000][b]be burnt[/color]..." Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 Hence the Quran sent to all provinces were compiled during the reign of Uthman who started ruling 12 years after Muhammad died and ruled for another 12 Years and the compilation and editing was done within his 12 Years of rule, which was 652 A.D. 20years after Muhammad had died Also, as at that 652 A.D. there was no diacritical marks in Arabic language, it only came into existence in 8th century and the 9th century, long after Muhammad had died and long after Uthman had given out his own standardized version of the Quran The arabic skeletal script is without the diacritical marks and vowelization: Fathah = ah Dhammah = oo Kasrah = ii None of the above dialect marks existed in the time of the prophet or Uthman in 652 AD and the present day Quran has them That means nobody in the world has the original Quran with the original language without diacritical marks and vowelizations and that means the Quran compiled is not the same as the one Muhammad received WHERE IS THE QURAN GIVEN TO MUHAMMAD? If you ask a Muslim to bring a Quran he will bring out one of the 25 versions of the Quran [b]That means all the current Quran you have in the world today are fake because Utman destroyed all the other Qirats and gave you only one Qirat but 300 Years after, ibn mujahid synthesized the new 7 Qirats from nowhere and that's the source of the Quran you're reading today.[/b]After the compilation they burnt other manuscripts of the Quran which was against what Mohammed said, Mohammed said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects but after Uthman and Zayd were done with their fabrications they burnt all the other Quranic manuscripts including the other dialects of revelation. The instructions to burn the other manuscripts was never given by Muhammad before he died nor by Allah, Zayd and Uthman only acted on their own accounts, and they burnt the evidence to cover up their fabrications and gave the Muslim world the revised edition of the Quran. But the Shia were angry because they knew the Quran had been corrupted. The Muslims continue to read Uthmanic codex of the Quran until 934 AD when ibn mujahid read that Muhammad actually said he received the Quran in 7 different dialects but since Uthman and Zayd had burnt the other dialects up, ibn mujahid then created his own 7 dialects of the Quran which are Nafi; ibn Kathir; ibn 'Amir; Abu Amr; Asim, Hafs; Hamzah; al-Kisai.In 1924 in Cairo Egypt, The Hafs manuscript was edited into the Quran you have today.Hence today's Quran is not the same as the one Mohammed received, it's not the same as the one Uthman and Zayd fabricated, it's a different one entirely. Go and learn my friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Zc67FrpWU 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 2:16pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
Thelife: Educate? Quran is still the same. Sir, I have told you BIBLE IS USELESS since the book is following you, not followed. The book is altered on daily basis. So how can we extract prove from it? |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Agbegbaorogboye: 2:18pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
motayoayinde: Yeah. Indeed. And why your utopian heaven is a brothel of free sex and orgies |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by x123xlolls(m): 2:22pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
advocatejare: Guy I am a Photoshop addict, I can create those graphics. Don't reference me to a video of 'KAFIR' Uttering rubbish as evidence for your arrogance. About all the other texts you wrote above, They have no source, as the original sources were alterde in your quote, in Islam we have our history, islam have history, go back to itand learn don't extract anything from 'unknown' sources and post to us,we will not believe you. You know? Islam have been under plan to be destroyed since b4 the birth of your grandpa, with the kind of bullshit-cookedup stories like yours, but till today the world have not succeed, so you shouldn't. |
Re: Another Look At The Critics Of The Punishment Of Fornication/adultery In Islam by Thelife: 2:24pm On Jan 21, 2022 |
x123xlolls: Ride on troll. Your quran is not only useless but also a curse on humanity for breeding terrorism Guess you and your imam are the one altering the book Well you should first prove to us that the Book is been alter on daily basis then we can talk about if we can extract prove from it or not? Or you don't have any prove for that? And next time, don't try your attack and evade tactics on me, you are too small for that. TSK |
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