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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 12:31pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Was Omeruo poor in the game? I do not think so. So why do you want the coach to drop him for Ajayi? Defensively, Omeruo had a good shift.

Based on Ajayi's showing against Guinea Bissau, he has the same level of defensive solidity with Omeruo plus greater aerial capacity and ball-carrying. Did you see how many corners we wasted? Ajayi would have done better if he were there

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:33pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:


Based on Ajayi's showing against Guinea Bissau, he has the same level of defensive solidity with Omeruo plus greater aerial capacity and ball-carrying. Did you see how many corners we wasted? Ajayi would have done better if he were there

Semi Ajayi's aerial prowess stood out because of Kelechi Nwakali's crosses. Kelechi Nwakali was not playing, so we would not use that approach.

In the Guinea Bissau game, Kelechi Nwakali played most of the corners.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:36pm On Jan 24, 2022
Let me clarify something.

We did not start defensive but with a midblock. That is how most teams approach teams that are good with building from the back. You maintain a compact shape in the middle and when the team comes into the midzone, you press to win the ball.

That is why Eguavoen did not come out pressing. However, with the goal, the dynamics changed, and he had to go on a high press. However, the red card spoilt it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:37pm On Jan 24, 2022
daveP:
actually we do. We act like they are some zlatan that should retire, or that they are selfish and should give way for the younger ones. I wonder how this logic makes sense one bit. Its not just about Ighalo. Its also about VicMo too. Knowing what an experienced player can do in several circumstances is way better than sitting duck and waiting for luck from an inexperienced young talented player. Especially one that feels only what the coach says should be final as regard positioning and shooting. I won't be surprised if i see at least one of the two of them recalled for Ghana tie. Not that i want them fully back, but that disrespect should just stop.

No be me

As far as you never reach 35 I Dey okay with you for the national team

If you are also 35 and playing at the top I am still okay

Na coach go decide who to call ,me and you opinion go end here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:37pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Was Omeruo poor in the game? I do not think so. So why do you want the coach to drop him for Ajayi? Defensively, Omeruo had a good shift.

The Retrogressive says , no change let's remain the same and never progresses.

Omeruo was hoofing the ball most times he was not poor. But the progressive question is can we do better in this case can Ajayi do better ❓

When it comes to Aerial dominance Ajayi beats Omeruo completely, when it comes to set pieces where a header can win you a goal Ajayi wins. When it comes to Physicality Ajayi wins, Who is better technically undoubtedly Ajayi, so what is Omeruo better than him at

Who is faster Ajayi or Omeruo,?

A reminder at one stage Ajayi had the highest number of headed goals in the EPL for a defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 12:38pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


These guys deserve more praise than the fake criticisms people are dishing. They were superb. They played with their hearts and pride. Everyone gave their best.

It is unfortunate they lost. However, they fought to the end with pride. I tire for people.

They gave their all. It was the tactics that was wrong. Even at 10 men down, they still gave their all. So I give them a thumbs up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:39pm On Jan 24, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
In conclusion, Eguavoen is a piss-poor coach who had nothing but the element of surprise and the Egyptian coach's incompetence to thank for his fluke win over Egypt.

I have always been shouting since the Sudan game that all it would take is a half-decent tactician to knock Eguavoen out cold.

Fluke win over Egypt ?

Smh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 12:41pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Let me clarify something.

We did not start defensive but with a midblock. That is how most teams approach teams that are good with building from the back. You maintain a compact shape in the middle and when the team comes into the midzone, you press to win the ball.

That is why Eguavoen did not come out pressing. However, with the goal, the dynamics changed, and he had to go on a high press. However, the red card spoilt it.

He should have started with the high press, benched Nacho for Iwobi, and bring Moses in second half as they were surely going to cage him.

That's the error.

But all good. What's done is done.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BankyGee(m): 12:42pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


These guys deserve more praise than the fake criticisms people are dishing. They were superb. They played with their hearts and pride. Everyone gave their best.

It is unfortunate they lost. However, they fought to the end with pride. I tire for people.
You're the only person talking sense here. Every other person is just looking for someone to blame. Omor, commend these guys, they played well, even with one man down! They need to be encouraged!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Triniti(m): 12:42pm On Jan 24, 2022
Make una sha try to dey calm down, the deed is done. Next year is another afcon, we just have to start planning for our World Cup playoff.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 12:43pm On Jan 24, 2022
Eguavoen is a good coach, a suburb coach.

He was just tacticsly outclassed last night. Or should I say, he played the wrong tactics and failed to utilize the element of surprise in his approach to the game. Dude was too predictable from the onset by the opposing team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:44pm On Jan 24, 2022
12large1:


Osimehn, dennis, ighalo and victor Moses are still needed in this team. But, we must first address our Midfield. We have to select a balanced midfield/formation

Key component in of any Midfield is " WORK RATE" both on the ball and off the ball, closing down the space and backtracking , tackles and interceptions and then your end product.

That's where you can build from.

Some players in the team have no work rate in midfield. KC and Nwakali
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:46pm On Jan 24, 2022
komekn:


I know that you know and will say so , do you think if Awoniyi was in the EPL he would have scored 9 Goals ❓❓.

I don't at all.

To score in the EPL is much much harder than the Bundesliga. And in that context I rate , Dennis as the most in form striker in Nigeria in the HERE and NOW.

Let me school you a little

What makes you think Awoniyi won’t score 9 goals in the epl ?

But Dennis failed to score after playing 8 games or so at the bundesliga ,I am sure if we are to judge by that stats you will say he will never make it at the epl ,but dude found the epl easier and even scored at his debut .

Maybe we should say to score in the bundesliga is much more harder than the epl because Dennis could not score there grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:48pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Semi Ajayi's aerial prowess stood out because of Kelechi Nwakali's crosses. Kelechi Nwakali was not playing, so we would not use that approach.

In the Guinea Bissau game, Kelechi Nwakali played most of the corners.

But all Nigeria corners where going with no one to head it ,so don’t come and use Nwakali as excuse here abeg

And that doesn’t mean I wanted ajayi to start ahead of omeruo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:50pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:


He should have started with the high press, benched Nacho for Iwobi, and bring Moses in second half as they were surely going to cage him.

That's the error.

But all good. What's done is done.

We can but I would not have advised that because remember we play with a thin middle. It will mean committing too early and leaving gaps. That could cause us. I believe based on game management, a midblock first have was okay. Awoniyi and Iwobi were okay trying to break the defense.

That was down to strategy and I think it was okay.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:52pm On Jan 24, 2022
andrewbaba44:


But all Nigeria corners where going with no one to head it ,so don’t come and use Nwakali as excuse here abeg

And that doesn’t mean I wanted ajayi to start ahead of omeruo

You actually are totally off point.

I am saying the crosses were not accurate, so we can not talk about aerial prowess. You are saying the corners were not accurate and I am giving excuse.

What da...... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:52pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Did you know that no team in AFCON history has ever reached the final after a perfect group stage?

Egypt in 2010

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:54pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:


They gave their all. It was the tactics that was wrong. Even at 10 men down, they still gave their all. So I give them a thumbs up.

I disagree. Tactics were not wrong and that was why we could feel the effect of the players. The tactics helped them perform well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:55pm On Jan 24, 2022
komekn:


The Retrogressive says , no change let's remain the same and never progresses.

Omeruo was hoofing the ball most times he was not poor. But the progressive question is can we do better in this case can Ajayi do better ❓

When it comes to Arrival dominance Ajayi beats Omeruo completely, when it comes to set pieces where a header can win you a goal Ajayi wins. When it comes to Physicality Ajayi wins, Who is better technically undoubtedly Ajayi, so what is Omeruo better than him at

Who is faster Ajayi or Omeruo,?

A reminder at one stage Ajayi had the highest number of headed goals in the EPL for a defender.


The defense did well. Our problem was us not taking our chances. So bringing Semi Ajayi would not have yielded much difference. Omeruo was good defensively. The long balls were just a plus to make things happen up front.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 12:57pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I disagree. Tactics were not wrong and that was why we could feel the effect of the players. The tactics helped them perform well.

That was no tactics. It was just willpower and gusto to give their all, of their own free will and commitment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:00pm On Jan 24, 2022
For me even if you are a century old as long as you're doing the business what's my own?

Now that you mention it I think however is going to coach the SE next should review Musa's place in a playing capacity. Yesterday was calling out for an experienced performer to bail the team out and unfortunately he governor couldn't step up clearly meaning Eguavoen couldn't trust Musa from a performance perspective. Going forward we need to always have our fittest and best (were possible) legs to prosecute game. Ahmed should be used in an ambassadorial role going forward. Ejuke should be encouraged hopefully the addition of Lookman will make us better.

Midfield is still begging for a creative spark. Jibola wasn't half bad I'll be honest but we definitely need more reinforcements.

If we're to have a chance of getting past Ghana in March Osimhen has to be playing. If Dennis comes with his head in the right place his abilities will help.

For now Uzoho should man the sticks. Okoye will come good but these are times to get all hands on deck.



andrewbaba44:


No be me

As far as you never reach 35 I Dey okay with you for the national team

If you are also 35 and playing at the top I am still okay

Na coach go decide who to call ,me and you opinion go end here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:02pm On Jan 24, 2022
safarigirl:


Egypt in 2010

I actually didn't count 2010 because the competition was played with one less team in Ghana's group.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Acecube(m): 1:03pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:


He should have started with the high press, benched Nacho for Iwobi, and bring Moses in second half as they were surely going to cage him.

That's the error.

But all good. What's done is done.
una just dey talk for talking sake because we lost... How can you say he should have benched Moses... How baba ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 1:04pm On Jan 24, 2022
codemaniacs:


Eguavoen should only continue if his never going to play the "inferiority complex" football we saw.... That's why people are angry...

he must also start with a midfield of Aribo, Onyeka and Ndidi in every starting eleven with Iwobi, Nwakali and Bonke as replacements.

then Ejuke should replace Chuks in the starting eleven then Onyekuru, Olayinka, Ebuehi, Aina should be ahead of Chuks on the bench..
Like I said, there are lessons to be learnt from this disappointment so I have little objections to what you've said. However, while we have to make a few changes for better midfield control and other aspects, the players who will be used will have to be determined by what they bring, especially during training and in-match situations.

Before this tournament, for instance, expectations of Simon and Chukwueze were quite different from what we have seen now based on previous performances. The same can happen again, so the coach, at the end of the day, sees more than we do.

The critical thing for me is being able to read and make changes to the game swiftly when required.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:04pm On Jan 24, 2022
Kog45:
Sir,NPFL keeper is the answer cos we still have Enyeamas in NPFL but imagine picking John Noble a third keeper with Enyimba just like having Ezenwa then who hardly played for his club.

We lost quality keeper the day Ikeme was diagnose with cancer but instead of deep searching we went for Uzoho who was keeping in 2nd Segunda and later 3rd division Okoye....I can say it anywhere that super eagles really helped Okoye career,nothing special about him.

If we believe we are lacking quality outfield players in NPFL but not keepers.All they need is coach Amusa Adisa treatment for Enyeama,Ejide and Aiyenugba but Alloy Agu is not ready.
better keeper scarce for NPFL o, if you’ve been following you’ll know.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:05pm On Jan 24, 2022
The only time Tunisia have ever won the AFCON was 2004, that's also the last time they beat Nigeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:07pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


You actually are totally off point.

I am saying the crosses were not accurate, so we can not talk about aerial prowess. You are saying the corners were not accurate and I am giving excuse.

What da...... grin

Oga yesterday crosses where going well with no one good at the air mostly available there

EOD
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 1:08pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:


He should have started with the high press, benched Nacho for Iwobi, and bring Moses in second half as they were surely going to cage him.

That's the error.

But all good. What's done is done.
iheanacho as a number 10 makes the midfield thin

Iwobi would hv started against Tunisia because he drops deep when required as well as links up play with the forwards better

The team gave their all but eguavoen was tactically outclassed by the Tunisians

When he found out his talisman was double marked the ideal tactical twist would hv been to push aribo to the number 10 position, bring in an Onyeka to join ndidi at the middle then iwobi for chukwueze

Our flanks wey clipped by the Tunisians so an iwobi for chukwueze would hv yielded better result because the former drifts into the middle more and has the ability to create something from that position as well

Iwobi drifting to the middle from the flanks would hv destabilized the Tunisians whereas creating room for aina to bomb forward

It’s was just tactics that won the game for the cartage eagles

Shebi we want attacking football, finally we don get am cheesy

Not saying that rohr is better than eguavoen but the German wouldn’t hv lost to this Tunisian team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:12pm On Jan 24, 2022
Papi85:
iheanacho as a number 10 makes the midfield thin

Iwobi would hv started against Tunisia because he drops deep when required as well as links up play with the forwards better

The team gave their all but eguavoen was tactically outclassed by the Tunisians

When he found out his talisman was double marked the ideal tactical twist would hv been to push aribo to the number 10 position, bring in an Onyeka to join ndidi at the middle then iwobi for chukwueze

Our flanks wey clipped by the Tunisians so an iwobi for chukwueze would hv yielded better result because the former drifts into the middle more and has the ability to create something from that position as well

Iwobi drifting to the middle from the flanks would hv destabilized the Tunisians whereas creating room for aina to bomb forward

It’s was just tactics that won the game for the cartage eagles

Shebi we want attacking football, finally we don get am cheesy

Not saying that rohr is better than eguavoen but the German wouldn’t hv lost to this Tunisian team

So going forward what do u suggest concerning who takes over?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 1:18pm On Jan 24, 2022
codemaniacs:


Eguavoen should only continue if his never going to play the "inferiority complex" football we saw.... That's why people are angry...

he must also start with a midfield of Aribo, Onyeka and Ndidi in every starting eleven with Iwobi, Nwakali and Bonke as replacements.

then Ejuke should replace Chuks in the starting eleven then Onyekuru, Olayinka, Ebuehi, Aina should be ahead of Chuks on the bench..
nothing like inferiority complex in the teams play, they were only outclassed tactically

Also subbing chukwueze for Chidera wouldn’t hv made any difference because both are similar

A case where the to flank players deployed were caged by the Tunisians what eguavoen needed was to instruct Moses Simon to dribble less and tuck in to the middle a bit then bring in an iwobi for chukwueze who naturally loves to drift to the middle from the flank to link up play with the forwards

An Onyeka pairing ndidi will automatically block the Tunisians from penetrating through the middle while aribo will be deployed as the teams AM and instructed to be present in the oppositions box when ever the team is attacking as well as track back to thicken the middle when the team losses possession

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 1:20pm On Jan 24, 2022
elyte89:


So going forward what do u suggest concerning who takes over?
i suggest eguavoen to continue but he has to be tactically flexible and alert if he has it

Our next game is against Ghana which will take place in March so I think we do not have enough time to change coaches
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:22pm On Jan 24, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Oga yesterday crosses where going well with no one good at the air mostly available there

EOD

Those crosses did not go well. I even remember one going wide, avoiding everyone.

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