TAO11:
Yes, I’m aware.

The discussion is published by as the Editor as:

Native Crowns, Journal of the Royal African Society,
Vol. 2, No. 7 (Apr., 1903), Oxford University Press.

It was also published in the Government Gazette of Lagos of Feb. 28 of the same year.

Cheers

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The attachment below is the publication directly from that year, 1903.

Thank you



If those Revisionists that Can lie for West, East, North, Central and South Africa ever mistakenly become History Teachers
there is the danger that they could have the same effect on Africa as Hitler Had on Europe that left it in Ruins within 4 Years

Christ Forbid

Christistruth00:
Thank you

If those Revisionists that Can lie for West, East, North, Central and South Africa are ever mistakenly become History Teachers
there is the danger that they could have the same effect on Africa as Hitler Had on Europe that left it in Ruins within 4 Years

Christ Forbid

Teach history kẹ!?

These ones will turn history upside down and rewrite everything.

God forbid.

TAO11:
Yes, I’m aware.

The discussion is published by by “The Editor” as:

Native Crowns, Journal of the Royal African Society,
Vol. 2, No. 7 (Apr., 1903), Oxford University Press.

It was also published in the Government Gazette of Lagos of Feb. 28 of the same year (1903).

Cheers!

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The attachment below is the publication directly from that year (1903) word-for-word from the publication.

No matter what you submit, the reality on ground in today's Lagos is that the Benin descendants of Lagos have refused to acknowledge your Awori or any other people as Lagos indigines. This is the fact and reality on ground.

Until your Aworis are officially recognised by Lagos state government as indigines of Lagos, all your efforts amounts to exercise in futility. Fight Lagos state government and your Benin descendant Lagos royalty for recognition, as it stands you lacks the authority to speak on Lagos history.

I didn't know the Lagos yoruba cultured Benins could be this protective of their Lagos heritage.

Officially speaking, there is no difference between Hausa/Fulani, Igbos, Aworis/other yoruba and any other tribes living in Lagos, apart from a small class of people, the oba and his Chiefs, others are classified as none indigines. Shocking.

THE ORIGIN OF LAGOS

When Nigeria was governed on the basis of tribe Northern (Hausa), Western (Yoruba) and Eastern (lgbo) regions and the colonial Lagos older than Nigeria itself was being claimed as a part of the Yoruba Westem region, by virtue of its location and Yoruba origin with reference to its Benin (Edo) royalty as far back as late 17th century and the American and Caribbean ongins of the descendants of the Ologbowo and the Popo Aguda (Brazilian) returnees of the 1840s. of course, original Lagosians of the time challenged the Lagos belongs the West theory; successfully proved the independence of the old Lagos (gede be L' eko wa) not only
stopped the attempt to merge Lagos with Westem Nigena but also got Lagos State as one of the first twelve states of Nigeria created in 1967

Since 1967, cosmopolitan Lagos has moved from being the capital of Nigeria to a mega city of excellence which now sets the pace of political, social and economical development more than it has ever done in the past. This is because, the ongin of Lagos has been influenced by mot only the (Idejo) chieftaincy, the Benin (Edo) Oba Ado royalty, the civilized and educated Saro (Olowogbowo) and Brazilian (Popo Aguda) returnees of the 1840s, the Tapa (Bida/Nupe), the Black Americans and the Caribbean (artisans of the early 19" century Lagos). These lots constitutes the force that built up Original Lagos (Eko Akoko) before the cessation of the colony of Lagos to the British crown in 1861, long before the creation of the British protectorate of Nigeria in 1914.

The original Lagosians established family compounds and business centres as far back as early 17th century, e.g Iga Aromire, Iga Iduganran, and the agboles (compounds) of the four original settlements Isale Eko, Olowogbowo, Oko Faji and Popo Aguda. These settlements of Lafiaji/lkoyi, Ebute Meta/Yaba were added during the colonial days.

By virtue of the above stated, original Lagos (Eko Akoko) produced Nigeria’s first modern day professionals such as lawyer Sapara-Williams (1880), Doctor J. K. Randle, Engineer Herbert Macaulay, Journalist Kitoyi Ajasa, Chartered Accountant Akintola Williams e.t.c all of them from the early Olowogbowo settlements.

In my own opinion, those who fabricate the very recent theory that Oba Ashipa was a Yoruba from lsheri instead of a Benin Prince from the Oba of Benin (Edo State) were mischievously, politically motivated to historically confirm the story of politicians of the 1940s who claim that Lagos belongs to the West; Yoruba/West of the regional Nigeria. The then Lagos politicians of the Action group Party controlled Western Nigeria went as far as to claim that some well known families of Lagos originated from Oyo, Ekiti, Ijebu, Egba, ljesha etc. in order to qualify them for membership of the Western Nigeria house of assemble or the Nigerian senate needless to say some got their fingers burnt when they were challenged by indigenes of the cities claimed in the 1940s.

It is very ridiculous to hear some academic historians challenge the historical Igbe songs of our innocent ancient Oloris (wives) of the Royal Houses just to please their political masters. Their types have been earlier exposed by the scriptures.

May I however conclude this piece, by reference to the fact that ‘facts are sacred while falsehoods are Satanic and Perishable’.

As a direct descendant of Oba Akinsemoyin of Lagos, I feel obliged to write this piece on original Lagos (Eko Akoko) in order to confirm the history of Royalty in Lagos

Signed:

Ademola Oladega Akinsemoyin

samuk:
[s]No matter what you submit, the reality on ground in today's Lagos is that the Benin descendants of Lagos have refused to acknowledge your Awori or any other people as Lagos indigines. This is the fact and reality on ground.

Until your Aworis are officially recognised by Lagos state government as indigines of Lagos, all your efforts amounts to exercise in futility. Fight Lagos state government and your Benin descendant Lagos royalty for recognition, as it stands you lacks the authority to speak on Lagos history.

I didn't know the Lagos yoruba cultured Benins could be this protective of their Lagos heritage.

Officially speaking, there is no difference between Hausa/Fulani, Igbos, Aworis/other yoruba and any other tribes living in Lagos, apart from a small class of people, the oba and his Chiefs, others are classified as none indigines. Shocking.[/s]

See the comment below from one of those you sought to align with. He disgraced you.

SirNewtonNG:


Actually sorry to dissapoint you because:

1. The oba of lagos is superior to her and he has said that benins are not the owners of lagos

2. The coat of arms of lagos never shows any symbol of bini but awori people i.e the white cap, akoko leaf and the occupation of the awori(fishing)

I'm sorry to dissapoint you but the lagos state government doesn't recognize the bini people but the aworis

samuk:
[s]THE ORIGIN OF LAGOS

When Nigeria was governed on the basis of tribe Northern (Hausa), Western (Yoruba) and Eastern (lgbo) regions and the colonial Lagos older than Nigeria itself was being claimed as a part of the Yoruba Westem region, by virtue of its location and Yoruba origin with reference to its Benin (Edo) royalty as far back as late 17th century and the American and Caribbean ongins of the descendants of the Ologbowo and the Popo Aguda (Brazilian) returnees of the 1840s. of course, original Lagosians of the time challenged the Lagos belongs the West theory; successfully proved the independence of the old Lagos (gede be L' eko wa) not only
stopped the attempt to merge Lagos with Westem Nigena but also got Lagos State as one of the first twelve states of Nigeria created in 1967

Since 1967, cosmopolitan Lagos has moved from being the capital of Nigeria to a mega city of excellence which now sets the pace of political, social and economical development more than it has ever done in the past. This is because, the ongin of Lagos has been influenced by mot only the (Idejo) chieftaincy, the Benin (Edo) Oba Ado royalty, the civilized and educated Saro (Olowogbowo) and Brazilian (Popo Aguda) returnees of the 1840s, the Tapa (Bida/Nupe), the Black Americans and the Caribbean (artisans of the early 19" century Lagos). These lots constitutes the force that built up Original Lagos (Eko Akoko) before the cessation of the colony of Lagos to the British crown in 1861, long before the creation of the British protectorate of Nigeria in 1914.

The original Lagosians established family compounds and business centres as far back as early 17th century, e.g Iga Aromire, Iga Iduganran, and the agboles (compounds) of the four original settlements Isale Eko, Olowogbowo, Oko Faji and Popo Aguda. These settlements of Lafiaji/lkoyi, Ebute Meta/Yaba were added during the colonial days.

By virtue of the above stated, original Lagos (Eko Akoko) produced Nigeria’s first modern day professionals such as lawyer Sapara-Williams (1880), Doctor J. K. Randle, Engineer Herbert Macaulay, Journalist Kitoyi Ajasa, Chartered Accountant Akintola Williams e.t.c all of them from the early Olowogbowo settlements.

In my own opinion, those who fabricate the very recent theory that Oba Ashipa was a Yoruba from lsheri instead of a Benin Prince from the Oba of Benin (Edo State) were mischievously, politically motivated to historically confirm the story of politicians of the 1940s who claim that Lagos belongs to the West; Yoruba/West of the regional Nigeria. The then Lagos politicians of the Action group Party controlled Western Nigeria went as far as to claim that some well known families of Lagos originated from Oyo, Ekiti, Ijebu, Egba, ljesha etc. in order to qualify them for membership of the Western Nigeria house of assemble or the Nigerian senate needless to say some got their fingers burnt when they were challenged by indigenes of the cities claimed in the 1940s.

It is very ridiculous to hear some academic historians challenge the historical Igbe songs of our innocent ancient Oloris (wives) of the Royal Houses just to please their political masters. Their types have been earlier exposed by the scriptures.

May I however conclude this piece, by reference to the fact that ‘facts are sacred while falsehoods are Satanic and Perishable’.

As a direct descendant of Oba Akinsemoyin of Lagos, I feel obliged to write this piece on original Lagos (Eko Akoko) in order to confirm the history of Royalty in Lagos

Signed:

Ademola Oladega Akinsemoyin[/s]

You have copied and pasted a revised narrative of one individual in the year 2021/2022.

On the other hand, what I have been citing is the old account from the late-1800s/early-1900s.

It reads:

”Some little time after the Olofin's death there began the peaceful penetration into Lagos of settlers from Benin. The Binis probably realised that they would not be able to occupy Lagos by force, as they had already been so decisively beaten in their attacks on Iddo, … permission was asked of the Lagos people for them [Binis] to land. This permission was granted, probably with no very good grace, although at that time Lagos island was very sparsely inhabited and there must have been room for many more settlers. … Some time after, the Binis began to attack the people on the mainland, and the leader of one of their marauding parties dying at Isheri, his remains were conveyed to Benin by one of the Isheri chiefs named Ashipa, … ”
~ Sir A. C. Burns, “History of Nigeria, (1929), p. 43.

Guess what!? Late-1800s/early-1900s Is ealrier than 2021/2022.. Did you know that?

Cheers.

TAO11:


“Some little time after the Olofin's death there began the peaceful penetration into Lagos of settlers from Benin. The Binis probably realised that they would not be able to occupy Lagos by force, as they had already been so decisively beaten in their attacks on Iddo, … permission was asked of the Lagos people for them [Binis] to land. This permission was granted, probably with no very good grace, although at that time Lagos island was very sparsely inhabited and there must have been room for many more settlers. … Some time after, the Binis began to attack the people on the mainland, and the leader of one of their marauding parties dying at Isheri, his remains were conveyed to Benin by one of the Isheri chiefs named Ashipa, …” ~ Sir A. C. Burns, (1929), p. 43.

All of these have been trashed in the preceding comment — a link to which is embedded below:

https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/17#109687702

Cheers.

I don’t know what you mean here but if it to answer my question be specific and be understandable.


We both claim Ashipa the first dynasty in Lagos came from Edo. Only that you claim he was returning from Edo.


And In Benin no historical documents claim Awori once enter into Benin city from 16th century to 18th.

British Portuguese all eyewitness said it was always Benin who went to lagose to trade. They all see how Benin traded in lagos for 300 years. If Aworis still went to Benin they would have still saw it.

So how did Yoruba now just wake up one morning and turn everything around.

If truly history recorded that Awori was still going to Benin to trade or just go there bring it here.

I want to see how Ashipa Awori first went from Eko to Benin and then come back to Eko. Bring fact bring eyewitness.

Jameseddi1:
[s]I don’t know what you mean here but if it to answer my question be specific and be understandable.

We both claim Ashipa the first dynasty in Lagos came from Edo. Only that you claim he was returning from Edo.

And In Benin no historical documents claim Awori once enter into Benin city from 16th century to 18th.

British Portuguese all eyewitness said it was always Benin who went to lagose to trade. They all see how Benin traded in lagos for 300 years. If Aworis still went to Benin they would have still saw it.

So how did Yoruba now just wake up one morning and turn everything around.

If truly history recorded that Awori was still going to Benin to trade or just go there bring it here.

I want to see how Ashipa Awori first went from Eko to Benin and then come back to Eko. Bring fact bring eyewitness.[/s]

Read it again with your eyes open and slowly this time around:

“Some little time after the Olofin's death there began the peaceful penetration into Lagos of settlers from Benin. The Binis probably realised that they would not be able to occupy Lagos by force, as they had already been so decisively beaten in their attacks on Iddo, … permission was asked of the Lagos people for them [Binis] to land. This permission was granted, probably with no very good grace, although at that time Lagos island was very sparsely inhabited and there must have been room for many more settlers. … Some time after, the Binis began to attack the people on the mainland, and the leader of one of their marauding parties dying at Isheri, his remains were conveyed to Benin by one of the Isheri chiefs named Ashipa, …”

~ Sir Alan C. Burns, “History of Nigeria,” (1929), p. 43.

If you must reply, then make sure to quote word-for-word from a report earlier than 1929.

Let’s see where it says Ashipa is a Bini imdegene. I’ve shown you where it says he is a Yoruba.

Cheers.

Reposting the Early Account on Eko & Ashipa:

(1) Lagos account makes it clear that Ashipa began to rule the island Eko which hitherto is a territory of the Oloto of Ìddó/Otto.

(2) In order to appropriate that particular island (Eko) for himself, he formed a coalition with the immigrants who had come to establish trade settlements there.

(3) In due course, he particularly courted the support of the Benin government (whose citizens were also on the island) by leading the delegation who took home the corpse of a Bini leader (Asheru) who died at Iṣeri.

(3) At Benin, he strengthened the ties even further by marrying from the royal family. This union produced his son Ado who was born there in Benin.

(4) On returning from Benin, he is now certain of not only the masses’ support, but also the support of one of their kings — the then Benin king.

(5) He established a new monarchy for that particular island — a monarchy which carved out Eko for itself, away from the control of the Oloto.

(6) On returning from Benin, the Benin king sent some important Bini citizens with him to ensure that he does not forget the interest of Benin too in his government.

(7) In all, the Lagos account makes it crystal clear that Ashipa is a Yorùbá man (Awori to be precise) from the place called Iṣeri, along the Ogun river in Lagos.

(8 ) His son Ado who is descended from the Benin king via his (Ado’s) mother-side was later sent to Eko after Ashipa’s reign.

(9) Ado thus becomes enshrined in Lagos traditions as the first official/crowned-king of Eko; even though his father (the progenitor of the dynasty) is also treated as king.

(10) As such, the Eko kings were bound to their Benin counterpart by a strong tie of gratitude which is often recognized by remittances and confirmation honor.

In fact, the royal corpse of certain Eko kings are sent to Benin — but after the head had been removed.

The head is removed only to show that here in Lagos is the land of their fathers patrilineally. Recall that the head always stays with the fathers’ land and the body with the mother’s’ land — just as with IFe & Benin.

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Appendix:
The point made by @christistruth01 about the Ada & Abẹ[n]rẹ[n] is not that the Ọọni despatched them to the Eko dynasty. Of course not.

That must have been despatched (or borrowed) from Benin during the Aṣipa- Benin patron-protege pact.

His point, however, is that the source of Benin’s Ada & Abẹñrẹñ [Bini: Ẹbẹñrẹñ, and recently Ẹbẹñ] in the first place is actually Ifẹ.

In other words, it’s a Yorùbá heritage ab-initio. That is all he was saying. Shikena.

This is backed by surviving cultural/ethnographic, and even epigraphic/archaeological evidence in Ife.

Cheers.

TAO11:

Read it again with your eyes open and slowly this time around:

“Some little time after the Olofin's death there began the peaceful penetration into Lagos of settlers from Benin. The Binis probably realised that they would not be able to occupy Lagos by force, as they had already been so decisively beaten in their attacks on Iddo, … permission was asked of the Lagos people for them [Binis] to land. This permission was granted, probably with no very good grace, although at that time Lagos island was very sparsely inhabited and there must have been room for many more settlers. … Some time after, the Binis began to attack the people on the mainland, and the leader of one of their marauding parties dying at Isheri, his remains were conveyed to Benin by one of the Isheri chiefs named Ashipa, …”

~ Sir Alan C. Burns, “History of Nigeria,” (1929), p. 43.

If you must reply, then make sure to quote word-for-word from a report earlier than 1929.

Let’s see where it says Ashipa is a Bini imdegene. I’ve shown you where it says he is a Yoruba.

Cheers.

At 19th century lol what have I be writing here? Yoruba started rewriting history from 19th century I haven’t research about Sir Alan but someone that was born 19th century how did he eyewitness something that happened in 16th century?.

If he ever documented anything like that it clearly show that it was told by Some Yorubas in there in 19th century. Yes Yoruba started rewriting history from 19th century.

Jameseddi1:
[s]At 19th century lol what have I be writing here? Yoruba started rewriting history from 19th century I haven’t research about Sir Alan but someone that was born 19th century how did he eyewitness something that happened in 16th century?.

If he ever documented anything like that it clearly show that it was told by Some Yorubas in there in 19th century. Yes Yoruba started rewriting history from 19th century.[/s]

Jamesedd1: Ashipa is a Bini.

Me: Says who?

Jamesedd1: Says we Benin — per our early Benin account.

Me: Well, Ashipa is a Yorùbá.

Jamesedd1: Says who?

Me: Says we Yorubas — per our early Lagos account.

Jamesedd1: You Yorubas rE-wRoTe that history.

Me: To rEwRiTe is to edit/revise what’s already there?

Jamessed1: Yes! Exactly.

Me: Let’s compare dates to see who rEwRotE (if any).

Jamessed1: Yes, let’s do that to expose you Yorubas.

Me: When did Lagos document Ashipa originally?

Jamessed1: Well, that’s 1878/1929 (inclusive)

Me: When did Benin document Ashipa originally?

Jamessed1: Well, that’s in the year 1953.

Me: Which of these is earlier — Lagos or Benin.

Jamesedd1: Well, Lagos came before Benin.

Me: Who possibly rEwRoTe — the first or the latter?

Jamessed1: The latter.

Me: Who is the latter here?

Jamesedd1: Benin is the latter.

Me: So, who possibly rewrote — Lagos or Benin?

Jamessed1: Benin.

Me: So, you have a functioning brain??

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Always take your brain along with you going forward.

No one has to spoon feed you.

Cheers.

TAO11:

Jamesedd1: Ashipa is a Bini.

Me: Says who?

Jamesedd1: Says we Benin — per our early Benin account.

Me: Well, Ashipa is a Yorùbá.

Jamesedd1: Says who?

Me: Says we Yorubas — per our early Lagos account.

Jamesedd1: You Yorubas rE-wRoTe that history.

Me: To rEwRiTe is to edit/revise what’s already there?

Jamessed1: Yes! Exactly.

Me: Let’s compare dates to see who rEwRotE (if any).

Jamessed1: Yes, let’s do that to expose you Yorubas.

Me: When did Lagos document Ashipa originally?

Jamessed1: Well, that’s 1878/1929 (inclusive)

Me: When did Benin document Ashipa originally?

Jamessed1: Well, that’s in the year 1953.

Me: Which of these is earlier — Lagos or Benin.

Jamesedd1: Well, Lagos came before Benin.

Me: Who possibly rEwRoTe — the first or the latter?

Jamessed1: The latter.

Me: Who is the latter here?

Jamesedd1: Benin is the latter.

Me: So, who possibly rewrote — Lagos or Benin?

Jamessed1: Benin.

Me: So, you have a functioning brain??

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Always take your brain along with you going forward. No one has to sleep feed you.

Cheers.

Ashipa was from Benin is general accepted account even by Yoruba.

Ashipa was from Edo. Says who? By everyone eyewitness, Benin, Yoruba, earliest and present European, lagos history Benin history.

Ashipa was returning from Edo. Says who. You and you only and maybe some your Yoruba brothers from 19th century.

Lagose royal highness the real lagosians.


Her Royal Highness, Erelu Kuti IV of Lagos, Erelu Abiola Dosunmu, in this interview, shares her perspective on the controversy over the ‘ownership’ of Lagos and declares that the former federal capital was an extension of Benin Kingdom. She explains that there are no ambiguities regarding the ancestry of the aborigines of Lagos, saying they are predominantly Benin. Abiola Dosumu maintains that the Awori ,after settling in Lagos, paid royalties to Benin people. Excerpts:



Erelu Abiola Dosunmu
Are you not concerned about the controversy over the true aborigines of Lagos?

I would not say I am concerned because I know the truth. The history of Lagos is not obscure, it is very clear. If people are going to say the truth, we all know what the truth is.

A friend was saying to me if I was not sure there is no third party trying to take the rights of Lagos through this raging controversy. We all know the story of Lagos from childhood.

Even a play was staged about the beginning of Lagos last year. I just know that the truth will surface after this raging controversy because a lot of the gladiators are being miserly in some of their discussions.

Can you give clarity on some of the things you consider not to be factual among those that have been said so far?

The territory of Lagos has always been an extension of the Benin Kingdom in the sense that they used it as a passage to the port for their trading and interaction with foreigners. We all know that foreigners visited the Benin Empire long before colonialism and signing of the treaty of Lagos. This is their passageway and hunting ground.

As soon as strangers came to settle down, they would pounce on them and make them pay royalties. Like all human beings, when you settle in a place for a long time, it is expected that you will have the right of ownership.

And the foreigners were not ready to be subservient and refused to pay Isakole (royalty) and the Benin king did not take kindly to that. He sent an expedition and subjugated the foreigners and set up his own administration in form of a kingdom.

Therefore, when I say that we are purely and predominantly Benin, it is the truth. The royalty of Lagos is predominantly Benin.

But we have all intermingled and have since inter-married with people from Yoruba land and people from other places. And we are enjoying the two cultures. We are even enjoying more because we now have Igbo, Hausa and other tribes settling in Lagos. We are not enjoying the Yoruba influence alone, we are also enjoying other influences.

Prior to the institution of the royalty with Oba Ado as the first king, who were the people that the Benin met on the ground?

The Benin has always known about Lagos because they considered it as part of their territory and they used it for many purposes. And when the Awori came from Ife to settle in the areas of Lagos, the Benin quickly got them to pay royalties. Benin was landlocked but, as Benin Empire, they were interacting with people from other parts of the world.

It was Benin Empire and, when the Portuguese and others came, they also had to pass through the Kuramo waters to get there. They had already laid claim to the land called Lagos. Whether they gave it a name or not, it was an extension of their playground. And when another group of people came to settle there, the Benin said they already had authority over the palace.

That was what informed their decision to make the Awori pay royalties. And after paying the Isakole for a while, they (Awori) decided not to pay anymore. That made the Benin to decide not to leave a vacuum anymore and set up an administration.

That is why I am saying that there is no ambiguity in the history of Lagos if we are going to tell the truth. All these people, who have been talking, never mentioned that they paid Isakole but we all know that.

It is written in books that they paid Isakole. That was the main reason the Benin came and took Olofin away. He refused to be subservient to them. The Benin came here because it is their territory. There is evidence that an expedition was sent from Benin, there is evidence that they were conquered because there was an obaship in place.

Even if they did not have anything and just sent an expedition to conquer, when someone conquers, he takes over the land and property of the conquered territory. Now, we want to unify our views and have a consensus so that those people, who are trying to take our rights away, can be confronted to see if we can get some kind of compensation for our children.

This is not the first time such controversy is raging, what do you think is responsible for its recurrence?

What I did at NIIA was to state that Oba Dosumu was an unsung hero. It was to state that the treaty for which he was being castigated was a masterstroke. He was a forward-looking king who had the interest of his people at heart. He did not allow his position to go into his head by allowing his subjects to be destroyed in a meaningless battle.

He found a way to a roundtable discussion and was able to retain integrity for his kingdom, while still retaining the friendship of the colonial people. There are many countries in Africa where people don’t remember their culture but he found a way to get a concession by which he was allowed to remain a king and sustain the culture and pride of his people as independent human begins.

And the people actually enjoyed the benefits because they were able to carry British passports and get scholarships to study abroad.

That is why a lot of early educated people were the indigenous people of Lagos. For example, people like the late Justice Elias, Justice Junaidu, and Prince Ajose were among the early educated people. Our fathers and grandfathers were all products of King’s College, they were either great bankers, doctors, pharmacists, etc. It is wrong to think that Lagos people are lazy. It is not the indigenous people of Lagos, who are lazy, it is those who come from other places.

This kind of controversy happened before and it is here again. In the light of that, how can the issue be resolved because oral history is easily distorted and told to suit individual and group interests?

If you don’t talk about issues, solutions may not be found. I think it is appropriate that we should discuss it. There should be this kind of conversation going on but, at the end of the day, a superior argument will carry the day. It is okay to take a story from wherever, but it is right to take it from the beginning and analyse it in a sensible way based on what our ancestors told us, what other people have written and what we learnt from our researches.

That is the best instead of the jaundiced way it is being done now. We will get there. It is healthy that conversations will be going on, at the end of the day we will sit at a roundtable and harmonise our views. And whatever that is not clear, we will address it and come up with a consensus.

We have had this kind of issue before on the story of the Eyo. The story is so clear but when the conversation started, people were attributing it to a princess from Badagry, but, at the end of the day, it was confirmed that the fetish came from the palace of the father of Queen Olugbani, wife of King Ado of Lagos.

But the colourful Aga is a creation of Oba Akisemoye of Lagos, the fetish was to protect them from the curious gaze of the people of Lagos. Strong young men in the neigbourhood were clad in white and given a stick to ward off anybody that wanted to interfere and they were called the Laba. That is why the Laba will always say that they are the head of the Eyo because they were the ones guarding the fetish until the early 1950s when the fetish felt they were not guarded properly by the Laba. Otherwise, Eyo, in the past, instead of the yellow Aga, was always red.

They were protecting the fetish but when the fetish felt the Laba was not protecting them anymore, they started having their own people to protect them with different colours of Aga. From there it expanded to the palaces of the white chiefs who started having their groups. It also expanded to groups formed by the Eyo Omo Oloku because, whenever there is an Eyo, it is always to honour departed obas.

The Eyo Omo Oloku can also come out in subsequent Eyos. So it kept getting bigger and definitely more colourful but it was a creation of the Oba of Lagos. The fetish was what was brought and the first Eyo was performed at the funeral of Queen Olugbani from where the fetish came from.

But before we settled that matter, people told different stories. I believe this one will be resolved. The problem is even not with the indigenous people of Lagos, it is being caused by people who want to claim ownership by default. They are the ones who are actually fueling the controversy.

The Benin Kingdom is always a central factor in the history of Lagos and Oba Akiolu even acknowledged the place of the kingdom recently. Are there still some cultural activities that take place between the Lagos royalty and Benin royalty?

There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.

That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.

Since all these started, have you reached out to the dramatis personae?

I decided to talk because many people have called that, as the person who seems like a custodian of history and culture of Lagos for over 40 years, I should make a statement and reach out to everybody.

I am talking because I want us to speak with one voice and not allow other people to take advantage of the situation. I am reaching out and hope that my views wil throw more light on the issues. We are going to reach out to more people and iron these out behind closed doors rather than on the pages of newspapers.

On oral history

When people talk about oral history, they also have to think of logic because if people rely on what they hear, they can never have a consensus. But logic must prevail. Time must also prevail because things are time bound.

If, for instance, they are saying that a certain people were paying royalties to the Benin Kingdom and others said they had been there centuries before the Benin came, but the same person who was said to have landed first was the same person that the Benin captured, how many centuries can that be? How long do human beings live? If they are saying the same person who came the first time was captured by the Benin and then returned, how long can it be? A lifetime!

Okay, he came as a young man and was captured as an old man? How many years are we talking about? I have read stories where they said some had been here for centuries and they are talking about the same original settlers. Therefore, common sense and time factor should also come into play when saying things based on oral history.

“Two can play at that game”. Let’s go:

Jameseddi1:
[s]Ashipa was from Benin is general accepted account even by Yoruba.[/s]

Ashipa being a Yorùbá is the generally accepted by everyone even by Binis.

Why did the Binis rewrite the history of Ashipa in the 1950s? Why did you rewrite history?

[s]Ashipa was from Edo. Says who? By everyone eyewitness, Benin, Yoruba, earliest and present European, lagos history Benin history.[/s]

Ashipa is a Yorùbá from Isheri. Says who? Everyone: Eyewitness, Bini, Yorùbá, earliest and present European, Lagos history, Benin history.

[s]Ashipa was returning from Edo. Says who. You and you only and maybe some your Yoruba brothers from 19th century.[/s]

Ashipa led the corpse of Asheru (a Bini leader) to Benin and returned back home to Lagos. Says the oldest known account in the world about his history.

Cheers.

Jameseddi1:
[s]Lagose royal highness the real lagosians.

Her Royal Highness, Erelu Kuti IV of Lagos, Erelu Abiola Dosunmu, in this interview, shares her perspective on the controversy over the ‘ownership’ of Lagos and declares that the former federal capital was an extension of Benin Kingdom. She explains that there are no ambiguities regarding the ancestry of the aborigines of Lagos, saying they are predominantly Benin. Abiola Dosumu maintains that the Awori ,after settling in Lagos, paid royalties to Benin people. Excerpts:

Erelu Abiola Dosunmu
Are you not concerned about the controversy over the true aborigines of Lagos?

I would not say I am concerned because I know the truth. The history of Lagos is not obscure, it is very clear. If people are going to say the truth, we all know what the truth is.

A friend was saying to me if I was not sure there is no third party trying to take the rights of Lagos through this raging controversy. We all know the story of Lagos from childhood.

Even a play was staged about the beginning of Lagos last year. I just know that the truth will surface after this raging controversy because a lot of the gladiators are being miserly in some of their discussions.

Can you give clarity on some of the things you consider not to be factual among those that have been said so far?

The territory of Lagos has always been an extension of the Benin Kingdom in the sense that they used it as a passage to the port for their trading and interaction with foreigners. We all know that foreigners visited the Benin Empire long before colonialism and signing of the treaty of Lagos. This is their passageway and hunting ground.

As soon as strangers came to settle down, they would pounce on them and make them pay royalties. Like all human beings, when you settle in a place for a long time, it is expected that you will have the right of ownership.

And the foreigners were not ready to be subservient and refused to pay Isakole (royalty) and the Benin king did not take kindly to that. He sent an expedition and subjugated the foreigners and set up his own administration in form of a kingdom.

Therefore, when I say that we are purely and predominantly Benin, it is the truth. The royalty of Lagos is predominantly Benin.

But we have all intermingled and have since inter-married with people from Yoruba land and people from other places. And we are enjoying the two cultures. We are even enjoying more because we now have Igbo, Hausa and other tribes settling in Lagos. We are not enjoying the Yoruba influence alone, we are also enjoying other influences.

Prior to the institution of the royalty with Oba Ado as the first king, who were the people that the Benin met on the ground?

The Benin has always known about Lagos because they considered it as part of their territory and they used it for many purposes. And when the Awori came from Ife to settle in the areas of Lagos, the Benin quickly got them to pay royalties. Benin was landlocked but, as Benin Empire, they were interacting with people from other parts of the world.

It was Benin Empire and, when the Portuguese and others came, they also had to pass through the Kuramo waters to get there. They had already laid claim to the land called Lagos. Whether they gave it a name or not, it was an extension of their playground. And when another group of people came to settle there, the Benin said they already had authority over the palace.

That was what informed their decision to make the Awori pay royalties. And after paying the Isakole for a while, they (Awori) decided not to pay anymore. That made the Benin to decide not to leave a vacuum anymore and set up an administration.

That is why I am saying that there is no ambiguity in the history of Lagos if we are going to tell the truth. All these people, who have been talking, never mentioned that they paid Isakole but we all know that.

It is written in books that they paid Isakole. That was the main reason the Benin came and took Olofin away. He refused to be subservient to them. The Benin came here because it is their territory. There is evidence that an expedition was sent from Benin, there is evidence that they were conquered because there was an obaship in place.

Even if they did not have anything and just sent an expedition to conquer, when someone conquers, he takes over the land and property of the conquered territory. Now, we want to unify our views and have a consensus so that those people, who are trying to take our rights away, can be confronted to see if we can get some kind of compensation for our children.

This is not the first time such controversy is raging, what do you think is responsible for its recurrence?

What I did at NIIA was to state that Oba Dosumu was an unsung hero. It was to state that the treaty for which he was being castigated was a masterstroke. He was a forward-looking king who had the interest of his people at heart. He did not allow his position to go into his head by allowing his subjects to be destroyed in a meaningless battle.

He found a way to a roundtable discussion and was able to retain integrity for his kingdom, while still retaining the friendship of the colonial people. There are many countries in Africa where people don’t remember their culture but he found a way to get a concession by which he was allowed to remain a king and sustain the culture and pride of his people as independent human begins.

And the people actually enjoyed the benefits because they were able to carry British passports and get scholarships to study abroad.

That is why a lot of early educated people were the indigenous people of Lagos. For example, people like the late Justice Elias, Justice Junaidu, and Prince Ajose were among the early educated people. Our fathers and grandfathers were all products of King’s College, they were either great bankers, doctors, pharmacists, etc. It is wrong to think that Lagos people are lazy. It is not the indigenous people of Lagos, who are lazy, it is those who come from other places.

This kind of controversy happened before and it is here again. In the light of that, how can the issue be resolved because oral history is easily distorted and told to suit individual and group interests?

If you don’t talk about issues, solutions may not be found. I think it is appropriate that we should discuss it. There should be this kind of conversation going on but, at the end of the day, a superior argument will carry the day. It is okay to take a story from wherever, but it is right to take it from the beginning and analyse it in a sensible way based on what our ancestors told us, what other people have written and what we learnt from our researches.

That is the best instead of the jaundiced way it is being done now. We will get there. It is healthy that conversations will be going on, at the end of the day we will sit at a roundtable and harmonise our views. And whatever that is not clear, we will address it and come up with a consensus.

We have had this kind of issue before on the story of the Eyo. The story is so clear but when the conversation started, people were attributing it to a princess from Badagry, but, at the end of the day, it was confirmed that the fetish came from the palace of the father of Queen Olugbani, wife of King Ado of Lagos.

But the colourful Aga is a creation of Oba Akisemoye of Lagos, the fetish was to protect them from the curious gaze of the people of Lagos. Strong young men in the neigbourhood were clad in white and given a stick to ward off anybody that wanted to interfere and they were called the Laba. That is why the Laba will always say that they are the head of the Eyo because they were the ones guarding the fetish until the early 1950s when the fetish felt they were not guarded properly by the Laba. Otherwise, Eyo, in the past, instead of the yellow Aga, was always red.

They were protecting the fetish but when the fetish felt the Laba was not protecting them anymore, they started having their own people to protect them with different colours of Aga. From there it expanded to the palaces of the white chiefs who started having their groups. It also expanded to groups formed by the Eyo Omo Oloku because, whenever there is an Eyo, it is always to honour departed obas.

The Eyo Omo Oloku can also come out in subsequent Eyos. So it kept getting bigger and definitely more colourful but it was a creation of the Oba of Lagos. The fetish was what was brought and the first Eyo was performed at the funeral of Queen Olugbani from where the fetish came from.

But before we settled that matter, people told different stories. I believe this one will be resolved. The problem is even not with the indigenous people of Lagos, it is being caused by people who want to claim ownership by default. They are the ones who are actually fueling the controversy.

The Benin Kingdom is always a central factor in the history of Lagos and Oba Akiolu even acknowledged the place of the kingdom recently. Are there still some cultural activities that take place between the Lagos royalty and Benin royalty?

There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.

That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.

Since all these started, have you reached out to the dramatis personae?

I decided to talk because many people have called that, as the person who seems like a custodian of history and culture of Lagos for over 40 years, I should make a statement and reach out to everybody.

I am talking because I want us to speak with one voice and not allow other people to take advantage of the situation. I am reaching out and hope that my views wil throw more light on the issues. We are going to reach out to more people and iron these out behind closed doors rather than on the pages of newspapers.

On oral history

When people talk about oral history, they also have to think of logic because if people rely on what they hear, they can never have a consensus. But logic must prevail. Time must also prevail because things are time bound.

If, for instance, they are saying that a certain people were paying royalties to the Benin Kingdom and others said they had been there centuries before the Benin came, but the same person who was said to have landed first was the same person that the Benin captured, how many centuries can that be? How long do human beings live? If they are saying the same person who came the first time was captured by the Benin and then returned, how long can it be? A lifetime!

Okay, he came as a young man and was captured as an old man? How many years are we talking about? I have read stories where they said some had been here for centuries and they are talking about the same original settlers. Therefore, common sense and time factor should also come into play when saying things based on oral history.[/s]

Evidence please??

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Moreover,

Oba Akiolu is the King of Lagos, not this lady.

Oba Akiolu has already debunked this lady.

The Oba said Eko wasn’t owned by Benin.

Cheers.

Still On Aṣípa (Ashipa):

(1) There is no one in the history of Benin who goes by the name or title “Ashipa” or “Eshipa”. None.

(2) On the other hand, there has been this very name or title in Yorùbá history long before this Lagos one.

(3) If we pretend it to be a Bini word, then it will have no meaning whatsoever. Zero meaning.

(4) But in Yorùbá language (wherein it’s been in usage for centuries before Lagos), it’s meaning is very clear.

(5) Even some of the the most basic speakers can see the meaning from the Yoruba language:

A: the one [who]. Ṣí: opens/paves. Ipa: the path.

(6) Binis saw that their account was flawed, so they got creative and came up with another revision:

They now said his name originally is: “Aisika-hienbore” and it means: “we shall not abandon this place”.

(7) This revision still makes zero sense simply because that so-called “original” name is an afterthought.

No person bears “we shall not abandon this place” as his/her name or title. It makes zero sense.

(8 ) All these proves one thing; that what we have here is a Yorùbá individual whom the Binis want to hijack.

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(9) The burial tradition for Aṣipa’s descendants (i.e. the ones who ruled) also establishes their paternal roots.

(10) Recall that Ashipa married a Bini woman by whom his son, King Ado was born.

(11) The burial custom provides that the royal body of a late crowned-king be taken to Benin; after the head had already been removed.

(12) In accordance with the Yorubas’ royal adage that:
“orí adé kì í sùn ìta” (the crowned-head isn’t interred in a foreign land); this burial custom also establishes that their paternal roots is Lagos.

(13) This burial custom wasn’t new, it has precedence in the classical connection between Ife and Benin.

(14) In all, the linguistic and cultural evidence establish one and the same thing — Lagos is the paternal home of Ado. His father, Aṣipa is a Yorùbá from Lagos.

(15) And this is exactly what the oldest known account about Aṣipa says concerning his roots — i.e. A Yorùbá chief from Isheri (along the River Ogun) in Lagos.

Cheers.

Cc: christistruth01, ideadoctor, SirNewtonNG

TAO11:

Evidence please??

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Moreover,

Oba Akiolu is the King of Lagos, not this lady.

Oba Akiolu has already debunked this lady.

The Oba said Eko wasn’t owned by Benin.

Cheers.

Tao11 you are right

Ashipa is not a Benin name neither is it a Benin Title


https://www.edoworld.net/Benin_Traditional_Chiefs.html

TAO11:

Evidence please??

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Moreover,

Oba Akiolu is the King of Lagos, not this lady.

Oba Akiolu has already debunked this lady.

The Oba said Eko wasn’t owned by Benin.

Cheers.

Both the king Oba of Lagos and her royal highness agreed that Benin own Lagos

The first post I posted was from Oba of Lagos who narrated how his grandma told him how Benin founded lagos.

You didn’t accept it you said it was all written by Edo because they were no video to support it.

I bring you another Lagosian narrative not only lagosian but a royal lagosian.

So you think you know more than the king and her royal highness.

About Ashipa you agreed his son Ado was buried in Benin due to her mother connection, you also agreed that Ashipa was also buried in Benin. But how come they also buried his body in Benin when his mother is not from Edo?

You contradicting yourself already.

General account all says Benin establish Lagos even Lagos king refused to bow to Oni of Ife at one occasion.

Didn’t you read what Lagos royal highness said? Wait let me dig it up for you again.

“ There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.”

“That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.”

So you mean our royal highness a lagosian is lying? Or should not believe her royal highness I should believe Top11?

Jameseddi1:
[s]Both the king Oba of Lagos and her royal highness agreed that Benin own Lagos[/s]

The King of Lagos said on camera that Benin does not own Lagos.

[s]The first post I posted was from Oba of Lagos who narrated how his grandma told him how Benin founded lagos.[/s]

No, that was not the Oba of Lagos. That was your Bini brother, Gabriel Omohinmin.

And the Oba of Lagos have said on camera that Benin was not the owner of Lagos.

[s]You didn’t accept it you said it was all written by Edo because they were no video to support it.[/s]

Of course it was written by an Edo young man called Gabriel Omohinmin.

Are you denying your Edo brother now?

[s]I bring you another Lagosian narrative not only lagosian but a royal lagosian.[/s]

Which the supreme traditional authority of Eko (Oba Akiolu) has refuted on camera.

[s]So you think you know more than the king and her royal highness.[/s]

I know Eko’s history. Oba Akiolu knows it too. And the old documents know it too.

The three of us all agree that Benin was not the owner of Eko.

No one else matter.

[s]About Ashipa you agreed his son Ado was buried in Benin due to her mother connection,[/s]

The body in his mother’s land —Benin.

The head is his father’s land — Lagos.

That’s what I said.

[s]you also agreed that Ashipa was also buried in Benin.[/s]

Bring a screenshot of where I said that, you pathetic fatuous, insanely moronic liar.

BTW, is this equation below correct?

Binis = Mistakenly born liars.

[s]But how come they also buried his body in Benin when his mother is not from Edo?[/s]

Because they never buried his body there. The voices in your head are speaking to you.

Or the Oba of Benin placed a ban on you from using your brain?

You contradicting yourself already.

No, I am contradicting the voices in your head.

[s]General account all says Benin establish Lagos even Lagos king refused to bow to Oni of Ife at one occasion.[/s]

No general account says that.

Refused to bow kẹ? Lol No king is required to bow to another king in our culture. They may only chose to.

Also, he only refused to return greetings due to their personal issues. Guess what, he saluted him publicly at a meeting of Yoruba monarchs in order to right his wrong after having received consequences.

[s]Didn’t you read what Lagos royal highness said?Wait let me dig it up for you again.“ There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.”“That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.”So you mean our royal highness a lagosian is lying? Or should not believe her royal highness I should believe Top11?[/s]

Gabriel Omohinmin is not the Lagos royal highness. Okay? LMAO.

I have listened on video to the actual Royal Highness of Lagos (Eko), and he said Benin was NOT the owner of my Lagos.He agrees with the old records.

The king is the most important traditional personality.

He already refuted both Omohinmin and anyone else.

I choose to go with him on this. You want to be part of my Lagos so bad, don’t you?

I’m living the life that you dream of daily.

Cheers.

TAO11:
The King of Lagos said on camera that Benin does not own Lagos.

No, that was not Oba of Lagos. That was your Bini brother, Gabriel Omohinmin.

And the Oba of Lagos have said on camera that Benin was not the owner of Lagos.

Of course it was written by an Edo. Are you denying your brother?

Which the supreme traditional authority of Eko (Oba Akiolu) has refuted on camera.

I know Eko’s history. Oba Akiolu knows is too. And the old document knows it too.

All of us three agree that Benin was not the owner of Eko.

No one else matter.

[uote]About Ashipa you agreed his son Ado was buried in Benin due to her mother connection,The body in his mother’s land —Benin.

The head is his father’s land — Lagos.

you also agreed that Ashipa was also buried in Benin.Bring a screenshot of where I said that, you pathetic fatuous, insanely moronic liar.

BTW, is this equation below correct?

Binis = Mistakenly born liars.

But how come they also buried his body in Benin when his mother is not from Edo?Because they never buried his body there. The voices in your head are speaking to you.

Or the Oba of Benin placed a ban on you from using your brain.

You contradicting yourself already.No, I am contradicting the voices in your head.

General account all says Benin establish Lagos even Lagos king refused to bow to Oni of Ife at one occasion.No general account says that.

Refused to bow kẹ? Lol No King is required to bow to another king in our culture. They may only chose to.

Also, he only refused to return greetings due to their personal issues. Guess what, he saluted him publicly at a meeting of Yoruba monarchs in order to right his own wrong after receiving consequences for his act.

[s]Didn’t you read what Lagos royal highness said?

Wait let me dig it up for you again.

“ There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.”

“That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.”

So you mean our royal highness a lagosian is lying? Or should not believe her royal highness I should believe Top11?[/s]Gabriel Omohinmin is not the Lagos royal highness. LMAO.

I have listened on video to the actual Royal Highness of Lagos (Eko), and he said Benin was the owner of my Lagos. He agrees with the old records.

The King is the most important traditional personalit.

He already refuted bothOmohinmin and anyone else.

I chose to go with him on this. You want to be part of this Lagos so bad, don’t you?

I’m living the life that you dream about.

Cheers.

Didn’t you read what Lagos royal highness said? Wait let me dig it up for you again.

“ There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.”

“That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.”

So you mean our royal highness a lagosian is lying? Or should not believe her royal highness I should believe You

Jameseddi1:
[s]Didn’t you read what Lagos royal highness said? Wait let me dig it up for you again.“ There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.”“That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.”So you mean our royal highness a lagosian is lying? Or should not believe her royal highness I should believe You[/s]

Gabriel Omohinmin is not the Lagos royal highness. He is another Bini liar like you making stuffs up.

I have listened on video to the actual Royal Highness of Lagos (Eko), and he said Benin was NOT the owner of my Lagos.

The king agrees with the old records. The old records also say that Ashipa is a Yorùbá.


The king is the most important traditional personality.

He already refuted both Omohinmin and anyone else.

I choose to go with him on this. You want to be part of my Lagos so bad, don’t you?

I’m living the life that you dream of daily.

Cheers.

(1) His Royal Highness, King Akiolu mentioned that Lagos was not owned by Benin.

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(2) He was asked about the connection of the Ekos & the Binis:

He replied that the [blood] connection was between the first crowned-king of Eko and a certain Benin king.

In other words, this first crowned-king is a male child whose descent is traceable to that Benin king.

And it is in fact true that the first crowned-king of Eko (i.e. King Ado) is a male descendent of (i.e. a son whose descent is traceable to) that Benin king.

Although HRH King Akiolu did not give further details about which of King Ado’s two parents links King Ado to that Benin king — mother or father, he was silent.

The old accounts, however, noted this with clarity by saying that Ado’s mother is the Bini; and his dad is the Yoruba from Isheri in Lagos.

His father is the progenitor of the dynasty, and as such is sometimes regarded in Lagos tradition as king even though he was uncrowned.

(3) King Akiolu also hinted on the political connection; noting that Benin kings are given a salute gesture at the end of coronation rites at Ẹnu-Ọwa¹.

(14) In all, Ado’s father is Ashipa, and Aṣipa is an Awori chief from Isheri, Lagos. Ado’s mother is a Bini. She is of Benin royalty.
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¹As an aside, this is also the same name of the square at Isheri (Ashipa’s roots) where the kings are crowned.

Cc: SirNewtonNG, Christistruth00.

TAO11:
(1) His Royal Highness, King Akiolu mentioned that Lagos was not owned by Benin.

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(2) He was asked about the connection of the Ekos & the Binis:

He replied that the [blood] connection was between the first crowned-king of Eko and a certain Benin king.

In other words, this first crowned-king is a male child whose descent is traceable to that Benin king.

And it is in fact true that the first crowned-king of Eko (i.e. King Ado) is a male descendent of (i.e. a son whose descent is traceable to) that Benin king.

Although HRH King Akiolu did not give further details about which of King Ado’s two parents links King Ado to that Benin king — mother or father, he was silent.

The old accounts, however, noted this with clarity by saying that Ado’s mother is the Bini; and his dad is the Yoruba from Isheri in Lagos.

His father is the progenitor of the dynasty, and as such is sometimes regarded in Lagos tradition as king even though he was uncrowned.

(3) King Akiolu also hinted on the political connection noting that Benin kings are given a salute gesture at the end of coronation rites at Ẹnu-Ọwa¹.

(14) In all, Ado’s father is Ashipa, and Aṣipa is an Awori chief from Isheri, Lagos. Ado’s mother is a Bini. She is of Benin royalty.
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¹As an aside, this is also the same name of the square at Isheri (Ashipa’s roots) where the kings are crowned.

Cc: SirNewtonNG, Christistruth00.

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You are a nobody, why was the Oba silent?
So you think you can tell this royal her ancestry?

https://punchng.com/lagos-is-an-extension-of-benin-erelu-dosunmu/?amp

Jameseddi1:


Didn’t you read what Lagos royal highness said? Wait let me dig it up for you again.

“ There is nothing stringent but there are still some courtesies that are exchanged between the palaces. For instance, at the coronation of a new king in Lagos, the Oba of Benin will, at some point, come over to welcome the new king into the fold of royalty and remind the king that he has a father in him.”

“That means that we still have those social courtesies that are exchanged between the two kingdoms. And if a new king is being crowned in Benin, the Oba of Lagos will have a vantage position as a son of the soil within the context of the ceremony. Apart from that, everybody is independent in his own right but we enjoy a lot of goodwill. Whatever is between us now is ceremonial and more of courtesies.”

So you mean our royal highness a lagosian is lying? Or should not believe her royal highness I should believe You

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You are talking to a specialist when it comes to history concoctions, he/she can manufacture fables from nowhere and back it up with very useless facts and jargons research

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

KingOKON:
[s]You are talking to a specialist when it comes to history concoctions, he/she can manufacture fables from nowhere and back it up with very useless facts and jargons research
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/[/s]

KingOKON:
[s]You are a nobody, why was the Oba silent?So you think you can tell this royal her ancestryhttps://punchng.com/lagos-is-an-extension-of-benin-erelu-dosunmu/?amp[/s]

Well, ….

Oba Akiolu wasn’t silent about Benin. He said that Lagos was not owned by Benin.

As such, whoever you run to is already debunked by the supreme traditional authority — Ọba Akiolu.

Cheers.

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BTW, I too am a female descendant of King Kosoko.

But that clearly has not even being the basis of my argument. Just saying so you know …

He was silent only about which of Ado’s parents (mom or dad) is of Benin descent.

This is however answered with precision in the older traditions of Lagos (from the 1800s/1920s).

The older account says Ado’s father is Yorùbá, and his mother is the Bini.

Yeah, I know I just dashed your hope.

I already live you dreams.

Cheers.

TAO11:


Well, ….

Oba Akiolu wasn’t silent about Benin. He said that Lagos was not owned by Benin.

As such, whoever you run to is already debunked by the supreme traditional authority — Ọba Akiolu.

Cheers.

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Supreme what?
Who knows that Tinubu stooge, his people or Tinubu?
So a king that ran away from his people will tell another royal family who their ancestors where?

Are you more lagosian, more royal than the Erelu and her family?
Who are you?

I already told you who I am. You need glasses?

KingOKON:
[s]Supreme what?Who knows that Tinubu stooge, his people or Tinubu?So a king that ran away from his people will tell another royal family who their ancestors where?Are you more lagosian, more royal than the Erelu and her family?Who are you?[/s]

The king of Lagos has spoken.

He said:
Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos.

Die if you want to. Cry if you want to.

TAO11:
The king of Lagos has spoken.

He said:
Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos.

Die if you want to. Cry if you want to.

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Plz don't mention this nonsense where the royal families of lagos are gathered

KingOKON:
[s]Plz don't mention this nonsense where the royal families of lagos are gathered[/s]

The king of Lagos has spoken:

Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Are your tears now nearby?

TAO11:
The king of Lagos has spoken:

Benin have no place in the ownership of Lagos he insists.

Are your tears now nearby?

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For you good don't repeat this nonsense outside of this forum