AntiChristian:
They said God sent His son to die for people...no be ritual be that?

tctrills:
We learn of Jephthah in Judges 11 who sacrificed his daughter ..

tctrills:
... Was it an act of righteousness or murder?

AntiChristian:
They said God sent His son to die for people...

AntiChristian:
...no be ritual be that?

AntiChristian:
They said God sent His son to die for people...no be ritual be that?

ANTIlSLAM:


They said God sent his son to die for the people, do you hate reading this Quran verse that says the son that died resurrected?

Quran 19:33

Muhammad Ahmed & Samira

And the security/peace (was) on me (on the) day I was born, and (the) day I die, and (the) day I be sent/resurrected/revived alive

Abi shey na allah or muhammad died and resurrected here?

I am still looking for where did the verse say he has died...? Go and learn future tense in Brighter Grammar.

NNTR:

Ritual is, a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order.

For example, when if waking up, you routinely get out of bed, kneel down to do a daily devotion and prayers, get up go to restroom, have a dump, next bathroom, to brush teeth followed by having a bath or shower, then grab a toasted sandwich with strong brewed coffee, settle down to catch up the news on the dailies or whatnot etc, now all those aforementioned activities, if daily done and carried out like in that same order everyday, then it essentially represents, what is called a ritual, of some sort.

NNTR:
Genesis 22:10-12
'10Abraham reached out his hand and took the knife to kill his son.
11But the Angel of the LORD called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!”
He answered, “Here I am.”
12The LORD said, “Do not reach out [with the knife in] your hand against the boy, and do nothing to [harm] him;
for now I know that you fear God [with reverence and profound respect],
since you have not withheld from Me your son, your only son [of promise].”'

You've learnt incorrectly of Jephthah in Judges 11, if you believed that, he sacrificed his daughter.

Argue with Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6, if you want to

Asking, if it was an act of righteousness or murder, is not only, a dead on arrival question, but also is, an ignorant and invalid asked question, based on the technicality that God doesn't support a form of irrational human being sacrifice

Your point being?

Ritual is, a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order.

For example, when if waking up, you routinely get out of bed, kneel down to do a daily devotion and prayers, get up go to restroom, have a dump, next bathroom, to brush teeth followed by having a bath or shower, then grab a toasted sandwich with strong brewed coffee, settle down to catch up the news on the dailies or whatnot etc, now all those aforementioned activities, if daily done and carried out like in that same order everyday, then it essentially represents, what is called a ritual, of some sort.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

AntiChristian:
No! Ritual in this context is what is not called Yahoo Plus in Nigeria.

AntiChristian:
Killing people for others to progress. This is similar to what you claim God did by sending His son to be killed for others to progress!

tctrills:
[s]You clearly don't have an answer to the question[/s]

NNTR:


God, came down to earth to die.

In order to save you, every one , all of us, from eternal damnation, God died your death, my death and every other human beings' death. God didnt have to die, but for the love, God has for you, for me and for the rest of the world, God came down to earth, incarnated as Jesus, to die.

God, in the person of Jesus, laid down His life. He gave it willingly because He has the power to give it up and the power to receive it back again

Now, tell, how many of those killing people for others to progress, can restore back to life the people they kill?

NNTR:
How possible is it, to find a black cat in a dark room, especially, when to begin with, there actually, is no cat to find, smh loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

AntiChristian:


No! Ritual in this context is what is not called Yahoo Plus in Nigeria. Killing people for others to progress. This is similar to what you claim God did by sending His son to be killed for others to progress!

tctrills:
We learn of Jephthah in Judges 11 who sacrificed his daughter. Was it an act of righteousness or murder?

cornelboy:
No God doesn't support human sacrifice!
He binded himself with his words.

tctrills:
How do you mean?

AntiChristian:
Why does God need to come down?

AntiChristian:
Why So Jesus was praying to himself all the time he was praying?

AntiChristian:
who said "This is my beloved son in whom i'm well pleased?"

AntiChristian:
God can not die! God is the creator of death and can't be subjected to the power of what He created. God is eternal and everlasting. Gen 21:33, Isaiah 40:28

AntiChristian:
You mean He slide through the birth canal of his creation?

AntiChristian:
This is condescending for someone called God!

AntiChristian:
No one has done that.

AntiChristian:
Can your acclaimed Jesus God wake up your great grand dad? If yes, then no one would have died in Christianity!

tctrills:
Well, thanks for your contribution even though I don't understand what you mean.

tctrills:
I wish you a lovely day

cornelboy:
No God doesn't support human sacrifice!
He binded himself with his words.

tctrills:
How do you mean?

NNTR:
God does support human sacrifice!

Romans 12:1
'Therefore I urge you, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God,
to present your bodies [dedicating all of yourselves, set apart] as a living sacrifice,
holy and well-pleasing to God, which is your rational (logical, intelligent) act of worship.'

God doesn't support human sacrifice like the one you're trying so hard wanting to believe Jephthah did in Judges 11

You're expected to sacrifice yourself. Put yourself up as a living sacrifice, not sacrifice a second-party or third-party

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

tctrills:
That's my point.

tctrills:
this contradicts the book of judges

NNTR:
Your point is baseless. Your point has no legs to stand on

It is your opinion that contradicts the Book of Judges.

OK. How do you mean this contradicts the Book of Judges?
Also describe please, in great detail with revealing and relevant facts, how Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6 contradicts the Book of Judges.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

tctrills:
You really need to read your bible

tctrills:
Judges 11
30 And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the Lord, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.

It's not my opinion, I did not write the words. I was not the one that instructed Jephthah to use his daughter for a burnt offering.
I understand this makes you uncomfortable but its not my writings.

NNTR:
Practice what you preach.
If you really were practising what you preach. Meaning, brushing up with the bible, you won't be suffering from the truth decay that you are experiencing with Jephthah and the double barrel two vows he made.

Are you saying that, you do believe that Jephthah wasnt familiar with and wasnt aware of Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6? Hmm?

I made an important underline in Judges 11:31above there for you, that I want you to keep in the back of your mind, loll

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

tctrills:
We both agree that many verses in the bible are against human sacrifice

tctrills:
we both cant change this one verse that gave evidence of human sacrifice. A burnt offering for that matter.

NNTR:
If thats a source of wisdom and consolation for you, then so be it

Whatever the depth, this hole you've digging yourself and climbing down in to, just know that there's a way out of it, and the way to safely climb out of the hole, is by conceding that this one verse did give evidence of human sacrifice, albeit none of your fantasy burnt offering for that matter, but it was a perpetual living sacrifice performed by Jephthah's daughter, until death (i.e. the rest of her life

Do you notice how you evaded answering the question, asking if you, believe that Jephthah wasnt familiar with and wasnt aware of Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6? Hmm?

I am leaving for you, to toy and play with in your mind, that important it word, that I underlined in Judges 11:31 above, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

AntiChristian:


I am still looking for where did the verse say he has died...? Go and learn future tense in Brighter Grammar.

tctrills:
We learn of Jephthah in Judges 11 who sacrificed his daughter. Was it an act of righteousness or murder?

Truvelisback:
God doesn't accept human sacrifice. His daughter wasn't killed and used for sacrifice, rather she served the Lord all the days of her life without getting married and bearing children. It be came their custom.

tctrills:

She served the Lord after she was used for a burnt offering. Someone is writing a new bible here.
judges 11
31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”

39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.

From this comes the Israelite tradition 40 that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to[b] commemorate[/b] the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.
The custom was that each year for 4 days, the young women commemorate her. Commemorate means recall and show respect for in simple English.
If you want to teach your own opinion, you are welcome but I insist on what is written in the scriptures.

Truvelisback:
God doesn't accept human sacrifice. The vow was that: She knew no man all the days of her life. It's againts His word. God is against sheding of human blood blood for Sacrifice.