Kokobilo87:


But that isa tha work of tha politicians to ah motivate ah people to ah vote.

That isa not ah point against ah ID. Isa just ah stupid excuse

Is not ah point against ah da ID: ah agree.
But isa justa fact of ah real life that dem right-wingers ah red-eye very much ah.
Dat ah wat he ah tryna say ah!

raumdeuter:


If the South is not motivated to collect PVC like the north should they allow Southerners to vote without PVC?

If you cannot get voter ID, then get Drivers license or Passport or State ID or handgun license. It would be ridiculous to say you cannot get one of 7 options needed to vote

Benaldino, basaloco has ah explain to ah them tha ah photo ID Isa passport, driver's ah license and other ah forms of identification with ah ya photos ina it

Tha isa think there isa ah special ID to ah vote

DeepSight:


Is not ah point against ah da ID: ah agree.
But isa justa fact of ah real life that dem right-wingers ah red-eye very much ah.
Dat ah wat he ah tryna say ah!

So ya isa tell ah him tha isa not ah relevant to tha ID ah argument. One ah side isa always ah motivated than tha other ah side.

Liberals ah more ah motivated to ah loot and ah Riot and ah protest. Than ah right ah wing. No one isa ah say legalize tha looting.

DeepSight:


I have to say you have a point here.
But still doesnt justify the argument against IDs.

Just for clarity any form of ID below is acceptable to vote in the state of Texas it doesnt have to be Voter ID alone

Anything will do from Drivers license, to State ID for those who dont drive, to handgun license to Intl Passport to Military passport, to Citizenship certificate showing your face

raumdeuter:


Just for clarity any form of ID below is acceptable to vote in the state of Texas it doesnt have to be Voter ID alone

Anything will do from Drivers license, to State ID for those who dont drive, to handgun license to Intl Passport to Military passport, to Citizenship certificate showing your face

Cool.

raumdeuter:


If the South is not motivated to collect PVC like the north should they allow Southerners to vote without PVC?

If you cannot get voter ID, then get Drivers license or Passport or State ID or handgun license. It would be ridiculous to say you cannot get one of 7 options needed to vote

Get drivers license No I cannot
Get Passports No I cannot
Get State ID No I cannot
Get Handgun license No I cannot
Get Voter ID no I cannot
Get personal ID no I cannot

So what do you want? I just want to vote in an election coordinated by govt without any form of govt issued photo ID

GBAM!

DeepSight:


GBAM!

The fact that one side takes it very serious and the other doesnt. Is that really a point?

Everything in life some people will take it serious more than others should we now lower the requirement for those who dont?

When you were in school some students wanted to die for exams and some just took it like play. So should we lower the standard to say get just 5% to pass so they can be carried along

Nations cup going on now, Some countries traditionally take it serious and some not as much, Should we also lower the standard just to accommodate those who don't take it serious?

If you dont care that much to wait in line to get any of the 7 ID's, then why would you wait in line to vote?

DeepSight:


From your own link -

"Obtaining free electoral ID cards involves prospective voters having to take time off work and caring responsibilities to travel to council offices during opening hours to request them. Those that can most easily take time off from work or caring responsibilities to do this are usually the most likely to already have ID."

I say its both escapist and lazy for anyone to rely on this given that there is no urgent deadline within which this can be done. Any serious voter can find time in what is at least two whole years between elections.

It's not my link Mr Deepsight, I only pointed you to formal resource on topic of discussion. And, all you picked out the the report is escapism and laziness? I am convinced you can do better.

You are yet to show me proof of what is wrong with previous election processes as a means to justify changes.

raumdeuter:


The fact that one side takes it very serious and the other doesnt. Is that really a point?

Everything in life some people will take it serious more than others should we now lower the requirement for those who dont?

When you were in school some students wanted to die for exams and some just took it like play. So should we lower the standard to say get just 5% to pass so they can be carried along

Nations cup going on now, Some countries traditionally take it serious and some not as much, Should we also lower the standard just to accommodate those who don't take it serious?

If you dont care that much to wait in line to get any of the 7 ID's, then why would you wait in line to vote?

You are 100% right and I wholly agree.
As you should see from my previous comments.

I only said he had a point referring to how true it is that conservatives are more motivated. That doesnt make their argument against IDs hold any water though, just to be clear.

Konkoja:


It's not my link Mr Deepsight, I only pointed you to formal resource on topic of discussion. And, all you picked out the the report is escapism and laziness? I am convinced you can do better.

You are yet to show me proof of what is wrong with previous election processes as a means to justify changes.

It is exceedingly lazy and escapist to hold an argument against IDs based on work commitments or commitments to care. There is more than sufficient time for all - as I said - over two years between elections at the minimum - at least in the states.

Secondly the very fact that questions can be raised about mail-in voting and ballot harvesting is enough reason to raise the bar on identification. In truth, I neednt even cite these as any step to lock in the integrity of the process even further can only be welcome. No well meaning and serious citizen could quarrel with such.

DeepSight:


It is exceedingly lazy and escapist to hold an argument against IDs based on work commitments or commitments to care. There is more than sufficient time for all - as I said - over two years between elections at the minimum - at least in the states.

Secondly the very fact that questions can be raised about mail-in voting and ballot harvesting is enough reason to raise the bar on identification. In truth, I neednt even cite these as any step to lock in the integrity of the process even further can only be welcome. No well meaning and serious citizen could quarrel with such.

I honestly hate pointless chat which this has turned to.
So, @Deepsight, if you don gerit, forget about it.

Konkoja:


I honestly hate pointless chat which this has turned to.
So, @Deepsight, if you don gerit, forget about it.

Wow, ya isa not ah get ah it but ya ah want Anada somebody to ah get what ya isa not ah get.

Ya know isa pointless ya isa argue about ah voter ID.

Konkoja:


I honestly hate pointless chat which this has turned to.
So, @Deepsight, if you don gerit, forget about it.

This is not unfamiliar: when people are unable to deliver a cogent point they often resort to this.
Its been a pleasure all the same.
Tata.

Kokobilo87:


[s]Needing an ID to do the following ISN'T racist:
-Buy/register/insure/drive a car
-Open a bank account
-Board an airplane
-Apply for food stamps
-Apply for a job
-File for unemployment
-Have prescriptions filled
-Purchase alcohol/tobacco
-Apply for university
-Get a refund at a lot of stores
-Have utilities
-Adopt a child
-Get a mortgage
-Go to a doctor
-Donate blood
-Pick up a package at the post office
-Purchase a firearm
-Obtain social security benefits
-Obtain medicare/medicaid
-Open a credit card
-Get a library card
-Rent an apartment
-Get a CHINA-19 "vaccine"
-Go to jail
-Rent tools/furniture
-Get married
-Cash a check
-Go to court
-Enter a federal building
-Cash a lottery ticket
-Apply for welfare
-Adopt a pet
-Join a gym
-Visit a casino
-Apply for a hunting/fishing license


Needing an ID to do the following apparently IS racist:
-Vote

Hmm...

Ya wonder why some isa call ah ya tha professional ah victim ye

Ya who isa illegal alien ina England isa know more than ah me and ah raumdeuter ina texas/Austin or our country. Ya isa join gambojimeta ina Enugu. Carry Ibime with ah ya[/s]

Ondo boy ah claim da Texas likey da Freshi ofu da boat nappi hairs niqqa Ramdeauter

Show usi ya texasis drifa licence ya arse munchings halfmonkey-halfdonkey

Kikikikikikiki

Ya ah tink da deepsight donkey Isa normals

Ita far right wing who ah claim da lefty ta fools people

Ita belief Ina conspiracy likey da apprentice donkey Basilico andi Methusela donkey onos


Kikikikikikiki

chopnaira:
Ya ah tink da deepsight donkey Isa normals

Ita far right wing who ah claim da lefty ta fools people

Ita belief Ina conspiracy likey da apprentice donkey Basilico andi Methusela donkey onos


Kikikikikikiki

WHAAAAAAT ! ! ! !

Kokobillo87 da chief donkey who ah Basilico gay Partna andi Ramdeauter arse munchers

Ya ah show us ya Texas drifa license andi uses da fries ta rite ya names ati da McDonals. Wees ah waits....

Akure boy ah feels funky

Kikikikikikiki

DeepSight:


WHAAAAAAT ! ! ! !

Konkoja:


It's not my link Mr Deepsight, I only pointed you to formal resource on topic of discussion. And, all you picked out the the report is escapism and laziness? I am convinced you can do better.

You are yet to show me proof of what is wrong with previous election processes as a means to justify changes.

Stooopids peoples ah fix what ah nat break

Kikikikikikiki

budaatum:


Even after said leader called on you to amass and storm the Capital with promises to join you?

Buda, from all I read and heard, the implied Leader said "march on parliament", (to delay certification), not "storm the Parliament", "Invade Parliament" or "Assault the Paliament".

"March on Parliament" in my understanding of English means "mass around Paliament", the way protesters mass around Court premises during high profile, tension charged cases to pressure for desired outcomes.

Implied Leader is handicapped in speech, and skilled in delivering himself to his (political) enemies, thro inability to clarify his meanings.

BUT THE IMPLIED LEADER DID NOT ORDER A STORMING OR INVASION OF PALIAMENT AS IS PRESENTLY BEING SPINNED.

THE MAN WAS AFTER HONEST VOTE, NOT PERPETUATING HIMSELF IN POWER.

raumdeuter:


I will say you are projecting.
To do work stuff you need your work issued ID
To do school stuffs you need your school issued ID
To do govt stuffs you need a govt issued ID

It's very simple unless you have other intentions

I wonder if you at all know how it works. You are aware that one must register to vote with one's local authority, a local authority that posts a rates bill to your registered place of abode which you'd have been paying so long as you live there, and that you must register a birth or a death or a child starting school, all with posted letters from the local authority to you. Also, various utility companies would have sent you bills you would have paid, and your bank too, and work, etc.

Tell me why you can't turn up with one of those letters. Like your water bill, for instance? Wouldn't bells ring if someone else turns up and says they are you?

Voting, in America, is not "work stuff" nor "school stuff" nor "govt stuffs" raud, it is the stuff of Americans, the land of the free to bravely vote. A right. And not a thing to relinquish, even more so than the right to bear arms, and by now they should be sending you a code they scan off your phone to know it is you instead of devolving into China where you almost need id to breath air!

zendi:

Buda, from all I read and heard, the implied Leader said "march on parliament", (to delay certification), not "storm the Parlierment", "Invade Parlierment" or "Assault the Palierment".

"March on Parlierment" in my understanding of English means mass around Palierment, the way protesters mass around Court premises during high profile, tension charged cases to pressure for desired outcomes.

Implied Leader is handicapped in speech, and skilled in delivering himself to his (political) enemies, thro inability to clarify his meanings.

BUT THE IMPLIED LEADER DID NOT ORDER A STORMING OR INVASION OF PALIERMENT AS IS PRESENTLY BEING SPINNED.
THE MAN WAS AFTER HONEST VOTE. NOT PERPETUATING HIMSELF IN POWER.

Zendi. His supporters who were listening to him seem to have heard "storm the Capital and hang Pence", and drumpthf not knowing his word could be so misconstrued is much more dangerous than a drumpthf who knows and intends it, which is what it more seems like unless you want to cover your eyes and ears and not see nor hear all he said and did when he lost the election.

budaatum:

I wonder if you at all know how it works. You are aware that one must register to vote with one's local authority, a local authority that posts a rates bill to your registered place of abode which you'd have been paying so long as you live there, and that you must register a birth or a death or a child starting school, all with posted letters from the local authority to you. Also, various utility companies would have sent you bills you would have paid, and your bank too, and work, etc.

Tell me why you can't turn up with one of those letters. Like your water bill, for instance? Wouldn't bells ring if someone else turns up and says they are you?

Voting, in America, is not "work stuff" nor "school stuff" nor "govt stuffs" raud, it is the stuff of Americans, the land of the free to bravely vote. A right. And not a thing to relinquish, even more so than the right to bear arms, and by now they should be sending you a code they scan off your phone to know it is you instead of devolving into China where you almost need id to breath air!

Another rabbish.

People can ah steal ya ah bill or surf ya ah rubbish can to ah get bills ya isa throw away. They can ah use tha bill and ah claim to be ah ya?

Ya isa not ah make tha point and ya isa on ya 5th ah post on ah tha matter

Kokobilo87:


But tha isa tha work of tha politicians to ah motivate ah people to ah vote.

That isa not ah point against ah ID. Isa just ah stupid excuse

Tha job of ah politician isa not to ah motivata tha people with hatred. That people ah motivate by hatred more than policy

Kokobilo87:


Another rabbish.

People can ah steal ya ah bill or surf ya ah rubbish can to ah get bills ya isa throw away. They can ah use tha bill and ah claim to be ah ya?

Ya isa not ah make tha point and ya isa on ya 5th ah post on ah tha matter

Only ah one in ah million ah steal ah rubbish bin to vote. That is ah not a material variance ina election

Kokobilo87:


[s]Another rabbish.

People can ah steal ya ah bill or surf ya ah rubbish can to ah get bills ya isa throw away. They can ah use tha bill and ah claim to be ah ya?

Ya isa not ah make tha point and ya isa on ya 5th ah post on ah tha matter[/s]

When ah ya post ya drifa license?

ya ondo arse munchings halfmonkey-halfdonkey

kikikikikikiki

Ibime:


Only ah one in ah million ah steal ah rubbish bin to vote. That is ah not a material variance ina election

Ya isa reduce ya ah sef into ah gambojimeta. Ya isa speak ah bad language ya donkey ye.

Ibime:


Tha job of ah politician isa not to ah motivata tha people with hatred. That people ah motivate by hatred more than policy

Ya isa lie to ah sef and ya isa ah believe ah it

Kokobilo87:


[s]Ya isa reduce ya ah sef into ah gambojimeta. Ya isa speak ah bad language ya donkey ye.[/s]

Kikikikikikiki

budaatum:

I wonder if you at all know how it works. You are aware that one must register to vote with one's local authority, a local authority that posts a rates bill to your registered place of abode which you'd have been paying so long as you live there, and that you must register a birth or a death or a child starting school, all with posted letters from the local authority to you. Also, various utility companies would have sent you bills you would have paid, and your bank too, and work, etc.

Tell me why you can't turn up with one of those letters. Like your water bill, for instance? Wouldn't bells ring if someone else turns up and says they are you?

Voting, in America, is not "work stuff" nor "school stuff" nor "govt stuffs" raud, it is the stuff of Americans, the land of the free to bravely vote. A right. And not a thing to relinquish, even more so than the right to bear arms, and by now they should be sending you a code they scan off your phone to know it is you instead of devolving into China where you almost need id to breath air!

Voting is the right of Americans and they need to verify who is standing in front of them to ensure he is who he is. He is the American with the right and not his friend or anyone

Bearing arms is a right yet you need a handgun license before you can express your constitutional right

Moving around is a fundamental right yet you need a license to drive a car or get on a flight

My water bill or light bill does not prove you are me. It only proves you had access to the mail.

I can as well pick my roommate budaatum bill and show up to vote on his name while with govt issued ID, I cannot show up with his drivers license and claim that I am budaatum since they will check the face and tie it to the name

That is the difference

Ibime:


Conservatives are politically motivated while normal people who would usually vote democrat are politically unmotivated

Not everybody is catching HBP everyday like these Trumpanzees over political issues. By when time comes to cast their vote, they vote with the most moderate and inclusive candidate. Hate motivates more than moderation, so does religious fervour. Same reason why the North PVC collection is always high compared to South

I don't need to go out my way to get voter ID here in UK. Electoral roll write to me to register. I will never go and queue for voter ID. Only sick and twisted children of hatred like Basilico and co will go and kill themselves to queue to get voter ID.

Conservatives know they lack numbers but are more motivated. Same applies the world over, and that's what they bank on.

Just go get the voter ID and get it done with!