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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 8:55am On Feb 09, 2022
muykem:
See how unintelligent people can be. How many states are under PDP in the north and south? South is good in voting PDP but not good enough to via their ticket.

Mr intelligent, go ahead and field SE candidate and see what happens at the polls.

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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by OLANIYIPETER: 8:56am On Feb 09, 2022
Imagine how far a bastard will go to manipulate the system/truth in favour of his pay master! You claimed PDP is into rotational presidency in other to ensure equity and give sense of belonging to every section in the country. Can't you see your postulation of Fielding a northerner totally negate that founding principle of PDP, as that will give the north 16 uninterrupted years of rulling while others look on!?

You and those putting you into self deception will soon see clearly.
Nothing will stop a Southerner from being the next president.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by sangresan(m): 8:58am On Feb 09, 2022
MartinsOnyx:
As the debate on power shift and zoning continues to engulf the political space, the importance of putting this besieging subject in proper perspective cannot be hyperbolized. In order to get rid of the pervading conjectures and adulterated opinions, this topic has to be swiftly put to bed.

Putting it rather charitably, the towncriers amplifying this clamour for the main opposition party, the PDP to zone its ticket to the South are either meddlesome interlopers or just up to mischief aimed at satiating their inordinate desires.

True to its billing as a party deeply rooted on the principles of equity, fairness and justice; the PDP, from 1999 till date has always zoned its elective positions on the basis of a North/South oscillation and vice versa. For avoidance of conflicts, let it be unequivocally stated that this rotation policy remains a domestic intra-party mechanism incubated by the founding fathers of the PDP to engender unity and inclusiveness. Also, nothing in the Nigerian constitution mandates parties to negotiate a power sharing formula among themselves. Thus, we run foul of no law.

Let it be on record that there was never a time since the formation of the PDP, that it went into an alliance or agreement with other parties to create some sort of uniform template on any issue; talk less zoning.The egalitarian podium on which our great party stands, certainly leaves no room for hobnobbing with its ideologically inferior counterparts. Ideally, one size hardly fits all.

In apparent deference to zoning, history shows that there has always been an exchange of baton along dichotomic lines since 1999 till we lost power in 2015. Olusegun Obasanjo; a Southerner, handed over the reins to Umaru Musa Yar'adua (R.I.P); a Northerner. Owing to the latter's demise, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan; a Southerner completed his principal's tenure before vying for his own mandate which culminated in the loss of power in 2015.

Between 1999 and 2015 that the PDP held sway, Presidents of southern extraction occupied the exalted office for over 13 out of the total period of 16 years. This figure amounts to a whopping value of 81%. Like they say, numbers don't lie. After the manipulated defeat of the party's candidate in 2019, the right of first refusal for the 2023 ticket still belongs to the North.

Arguing against this lucid position only reeks of political expediency. Ultimately, he who demands equity must not approach it with leprous hands. Matter of fact, the moral burden is now on the ruling APC, to emulate the PDP by respecting the plurality of its members ethnic and religious diversity. However, it is nobody's business if the party chooses the path of ignominy for which it has gained unprecedented notoriety.

In synopsis, issues such as zoning; though delicate, are strictly party affairs and our party's precedence shows the premium we place on it. With our pride of place as the biggest political party in Nigeria, our decisions should not pander to the whims, emotional outbursts and monkey tricks of rival parties. Lest we fail.

North or South, let the party reign supreme. God bless the PDP!! God bless Nigeria!!!

E-signed,
Hon. Abdul-Azeez Akinsanya,
Zonal Coordinator SW,
Atiku Support Organisation.





Written by a fool.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Dike272464: 8:58am On Feb 09, 2022
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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 8:58am On Feb 09, 2022
HEBEI:

If PDP picks a northerner, APC go carry our votes.

If this is the case,We are ready. Let anyone vote his own candidate.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by OLANIYIPETER: 9:00am On Feb 09, 2022
Fathai:
This one don collect money. I don't always understand why northerners avoid to talk about the years of military rule they wasted for we Nigerians. Imagine the nonsense this current government is doing under the leadership of Buhari. People are wise now, and I believe the southerners this time around will show the core northerners that they are the one that make this country work. No be by cow talking.

It is a sin if should not tell you thar YOU ARE 100% RIGHT, COMPREHENSIVE AND ASCERTAINED.
Kudos.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 9:00am On Feb 09, 2022
It is simple.

PDP must zone to North.

While APC has the right to retain it in the North.

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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 9:02am On Feb 09, 2022
Chapii:
So PDP is running a seperate country from Nigeria abi? No wahala. They will govern themselves if they field a Northern candidate.

PDP must zone to North.

APC has the right to zone it to North.

Do you understand?

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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Bobloco: 9:05am On Feb 09, 2022
BigYash:
Cumming where?

Coming, not cumming
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by techWriter3: 9:11am On Feb 09, 2022
[s]This is the real of the PDP.Its the North's crank in the PDP.[/s] cool
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by sotall(m): 9:16am On Feb 09, 2022
eldoradoxx:
It was their turn in 2019 and also their turn now, how possible.

Turn to get the position, not to contest

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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by eldoradoxx: 9:16am On Feb 09, 2022
emmykk:


The problem right now is that the south are not united.
A Tinubu will not back down for south east this is where the north get their 2023 power should still remain in North from.

If by mistake the north win 2023 election the south is finished.

And their chances of winning it is 70% ,they are most likely to get one of the major party and they will switch.

However if A Tinubu can get APC ticket and PDP ticket is successfully zone to the south that way the north will have no choice but choose any southern.

Although new crises will be in the south
The South will vote enmass against Northern candidate of PDP on condition that APC ticket does not go to Tinubu. Southerners in the East and Niger Delta would rather vote a Northern in PDP than vote for a Southern in APC that happens to be Tinubu. South East and South South have not forgiven Tinubu for 2015 political Machiavelli movement that brought this dullard of Daura to power

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Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by eldoradoxx: 9:18am On Feb 09, 2022
sotall:


Turn to get the position, not to contest
it was their turn to get the position in 2019 but they voted for APC while a vast majority of the South except South West voted pdp. They cannot be asking for the position again after Buhari has had 8 years.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by emmykk(m): 9:25am On Feb 09, 2022
eldoradoxx:
The South will vote enmass against Northern candidate of PDP on condition that APC ticket does not go to Tinubu. Southerners in the East and Niger Delta would rather vote a Northern in PDP than vote for a Southern in APC that happens to be Tinubu. South East and South South have not forgiven Tinubu for 2015 political Machiavelli movement that brought this dullard of Daura to power

You are quite correct but osinbajo is equal to Tinubu.
Buhari need to chose Ameachi or a South Western other than the duo of Tinubu and Osinbajo.

That way South South and South West will calm down and will not vote for PDP northern candidate.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by muykem: 9:51am On Feb 09, 2022
perambulator:


Mr intelligent, go ahead and field SE candidate and see what happens at the polls.
What happened when the party field Atiku in 2019?
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 10:06am On Feb 09, 2022
muykem:
What happened when the party field Atiku in 2019?
Sebi you said I am not intelligent, why are you asking me? You didnt win with Atiku, so you want to ditch a northerner who will get you votes in the north and field a southerner, a SE one for that matter that will lose you votes in the North but wont add any new votes in the south? This your intelligence na 1st class intelligence o. I said if you cannot win win a northerner, then you have no hope with a southerner. Who says you can win either way? either way PDP is the underdog and underdog means you are unlikely to win but it is the responsibility of the underdog to give himself the best chance of winning and I am just saying a Northerner is your best chance.
Use this intelligence you seem to think you have, one of the reasons Atiku did not carry the North was because he was running against a fellow Northerner, now that he wont be, you now spoil your chances by fielding a southerner especially one from a zone the north will never vote for. Like I said this your intelligence na 1st class intelligence.

i am not worthy of having discussions with you because this your intelligence is too much for me!!!
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by OgaNurse: 10:22am On Feb 09, 2022
MartinsOnyx:
As the debate on power shift and zoning continues to engulf the political space, the importance of putting this besieging subject in proper perspective cannot be hyperbolized. In order to get rid of the pervading conjectures and adulterated opinions, this topic has to be swiftly put to bed.

Putting it rather charitably, the towncriers amplifying this clamour for the main opposition party, the PDP to zone its ticket to the South are either meddlesome interlopers or just up to mischief aimed at satiating their inordinate desires.

True to its billing as a party deeply rooted on the principles of equity, fairness and justice; the PDP, from 1999 till date has always zoned its elective positions on the basis of a North/South oscillation and vice versa. For avoidance of conflicts, let it be unequivocally stated that this rotation policy remains a domestic intra-party mechanism incubated by the founding fathers of the PDP to engender unity and inclusiveness. Also, nothing in the Nigerian constitution mandates parties to negotiate a power sharing formula among themselves. Thus, we run foul of no law.

Let it be on record that there was never a time since the formation of the PDP, that it went into an alliance or agreement with other parties to create some sort of uniform template on any issue; talk less zoning.The egalitarian podium on which our great party stands, certainly leaves no room for hobnobbing with its ideologically inferior counterparts. Ideally, one size hardly fits all.

In apparent deference to zoning, history shows that there has always been an exchange of baton along dichotomic lines since 1999 till we lost power in 2015. Olusegun Obasanjo; a Southerner, handed over the reins to Umaru Musa Yar'adua (R.I.P); a Northerner. Owing to the latter's demise, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan; a Southerner completed his principal's tenure before vying for his own mandate which culminated in the loss of power in 2015.

Between 1999 and 2015 that the PDP held sway, Presidents of southern extraction occupied the exalted office for over 13 out of the total period of 16 years. This figure amounts to a whopping value of 81%. Like they say, numbers don't lie. After the manipulated defeat of the party's candidate in 2019, the right of first refusal for the 2023 ticket still belongs to the North.

Arguing against this lucid position only reeks of political expediency. Ultimately, he who demands equity must not approach it with leprous hands. Matter of fact, the moral burden is now on the ruling APC, to emulate the PDP by respecting the plurality of its members ethnic and religious diversity. However, it is nobody's business if the party chooses the path of ignominy for which it has gained unprecedented notoriety.

In synopsis, issues such as zoning; though delicate, are strictly party affairs and our party's precedence shows the premium we place on it. With our pride of place as the biggest political party in Nigeria, our decisions should not pander to the whims, emotional outbursts and monkey tricks of rival parties. Lest we fail.

North or South, let the party reign supreme. God bless the PDP!! God bless Nigeria!!!

E-signed,
Hon. Abdul-Azeez Akinsanya,
Zonal Coordinator SW,
Atiku Support Organisation.










You're Atiku guy, you use names both from the south and the north and you still said nothing.
Your principal should focus on why he wants to be president, sending you to explain this to us or sending Dokpesi will not change the fact that Atiku na Dubai person.
He comes only on election year and goes back.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Chapii: 10:31am On Feb 09, 2022
HIGHESTPOPORI:
A southerner was the last president in Pdp, they are free to field a Northern candidate
A Northerner was the last presidential candidate of the party so a Southerner must emerge now
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 10:36am On Feb 09, 2022
Chapii:
A Northerner was the last presidential candidate of the party so a Southerner must emerge now

are you interested in giving PDp the best chance of winning the election or fielding a southern candidate...... because you cant have both
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Dannyset(m): 10:39am On Feb 09, 2022
This here just established the fact that it is always about the party and not the Masses.


If it's not madness, should we even be talking about this useless party that plunged this country into poverty?


Nonsense!
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by muykem: 10:48am On Feb 09, 2022
perambulator:

Sebi you said I am not intelligent, why are you asking me? You didnt win with Atiku, so you want to ditch a northerner who will get you votes in the north and field a southerner, a SE one for that matter that will lose you votes in the North but wont add any new votes in the south? This your intelligence na 1st class intelligence o. I said if you cannot win win a northerner, then you have no hope with a southerner. Who says you can win either way? either way PDP is the underdog and underdog means you are unlikely to win but it is the responsibility of the underdog to give himself the best chance of winning and I am just saying a Northerner is your best chance.
Use this intelligence you seem to think you have, one of the reasons Atiku did not carry the North was because he was running against a fellow Northerner, now that he wont be, you now spoil your chances by fielding a southerner especially one from a zone the north will never vote for. Like I said this your intelligence na 1st class intelligence.

i am not worthy of having discussions with you because this your intelligence is too much for me!!!
PDP winning is not as important to the zone that produce the president. Please put that to your mind. It's better that we have APC president from the south than PDP president from the North this time around.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by pquaver(m): 10:52am On Feb 09, 2022
sotall:
embarassed

This is the reality of the PDP.

Its the North's turn in the PDP.


Who was pdp candidate in last election? Are u say will continue to fly the flag of pdp until it wins the election? So if apc continues to rule the pdp presidential candidate must always come from North? Is that what u r saying
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 10:56am On Feb 09, 2022
muykem:
PDP winning is not as important to the zone that produce the president. Please put that to your mind. It's better that we have APC president from the south than PDP president from the North this time around.

Ok then I understand you. You just want PDP to field a southern candidate whether they win or not...abi? So long as you put this this your mind, PDP has absolutely no chance...zero, with a southern candidate!!!
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Chapii: 11:00am On Feb 09, 2022
perambulator:


are you interested in giving PDp the best chance of winning the election or fielding a southern candidate...... because you cant have both
Both the North & South have competent candidates so in the interest of the country’s unity we will have a southern president. I am a PDP supporter but if APC fields a better candidate, we vote APC simple.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by sotall(m): 11:05am On Feb 09, 2022
pquaver:


Who was pdp candidate in last election? Are u say will continue to fly the flag of pdp until it wins the election? So if apc continues to rule the pdp presidential candidate must always come from North? Is that what u r saying

The main objective of a party is to win elections.

The party will choose the best candidate out of its members.

Currently, Atiku is the best in PDP
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by pquaver(m): 11:26am On Feb 09, 2022
perambulator:

Sebi you said I am not intelligent, why are you asking me? You didnt win with Atiku, so you want to ditch a northerner who will get you votes in the north and field a southerner, a SE one for that matter that will lose you votes in the North but wont add any new votes in the south? This your intelligence na 1st class intelligence o. I said if you cannot win win a northerner, then you have no hope with a southerner. Who says you can win either way? either way PDP is the underdog and underdog means you are unlikely to win but it is the responsibility of the underdog to give himself the best chance of winning and I am just saying a Northerner is your best chance.
Use this intelligence you seem to think you have, one of the reasons Atiku did not carry the North was because he was running against a fellow Northerner, now that he wont be, you now spoil your chances by fielding a southerner especially one from a zone the north will never vote for. Like I said this your intelligence na 1st class intelligence.

i am not worthy of having discussions with you because this your intelligence is too much for me!!!

So after atiku in order to win it again kwankwaso will take over and then in order to win only Northerners will be contesting election.. Does your statement up there not look foolish to you? This just tells me Atiku is not supposed to rule.. Nigeria a man who can not respect a gentlemans agreement..
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by pquaver(m): 11:30am On Feb 09, 2022
sotall:


The main objective of a party is to win elections.

The party will choose the best candidate out of its members.

Currently, Atiku is the best in PDP

OK so in winning the election then equity and fairness is thrown out of the window? It says a lot about atiku and his followers..
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by muykem: 11:33am On Feb 09, 2022
perambulator:


Ok then I understand you. You just want PDP to field a southern candidate whether they win or not...abi? So long as you put this this your mind, PDP has absolutely no chance...zero, with a southern candidate!!!
Yes ooo. We can not continue to be second class citizen in the south because of permutation that one political party should win the election.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by Nobody: 11:36am On Feb 09, 2022
pquaver:


So after atiku in order to win it again kwankwaso will take over and then in order to win only Northerners will be contesting election.. Does your statement up there not look foolish to you? This just tells me Atiku is not supposed to rule.. Nigeria a man who can not respect a gentlemans agreement..

Oga dont vex with me I didnt make the rules, This is the reality of the position the SE have put themselves in.
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by sotall(m): 11:37am On Feb 09, 2022
pquaver:


OK so in winning the election then equity and fairness is thrown out of the window? It says a lot about atiku and his followers..

What do you mean by equity and fairness?
Please explain
Re: PDP And Zoning: Setting The Record Straight by pquaver(m): 11:41am On Feb 09, 2022
sotall:


What do you mean by equity and fairness?
Please explain

Equity and fairness is the rotation.. Atiku was pdp flag bearer in 2019.. It the turn of the south. Don't forget when pdp made the decision to rotate they had not won the 1999 election meaning that they could also have lost the election.. That means rotation also affects the primaries within the party.

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