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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 2:46pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:Honestly you'll make a very bad national team coach because you'll leave people that you're meant to convince to buff up our squad to pursue "talents" in Nigeria due to your emotive bias and bloated ego. You'll leave the role of a coach to start scouting indigenous players to train. Remove all FB players from our squad let's see if you can draw up a team that can beat the best teams in Africa. You talk of loyalty does not hold water at all. Will you say that Ebuehi or Leon Balogun is not passionate about the team? Ebuehi that reportedly cried at the chance to play AFCON. Maduka tattooed Super Eagles bird on his arm and he isn't loyal? You can never know how loyal someone would be till he begins to play. So stop judging their future. As I earlier said, you allow your bias think for you a lot. 10 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:51pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
The problem with Nigeria is that we favour quick fixes and quick successes over gradual growth and development. We love big names, we love it big, we don't have the mentality to slowly build from the scratch. Esau is a guy that loves it already made, he loves to hunt down animals he never was a part of their development. He goes to the bush to catch them already grown up and big and then consumes them. Jacob is a guy that favours raising young animals, that at the moment has little to offer him. He patiently nurtures them to full potential. The Esau kind of people will always sell their dignity, honour and birthright to Jacob kind of men, they will always end up begging Jacob. It is so sad to recall that we once had Eberechi Eze within our grasp, but failed to tie him with a cap because he is not yet a big name. Ejuke and Nwakali only played matches that are without much consequence in the just concluded AFCON tourney, maybe because of the coach's ego. Ejuke looked demoralised against Guinea Bissau. But our darling coach won't mind begging people that obviously look down on the team. What will Olise and Eberechi Eze bring to the S.E that we don't already have in Nwakali and Ejuke, is it technique or creativity? Ejuke plays in the Russian league that is not even among the top five leagues in Europe, Nwakali is languishing in Segunda division in Spain, they are not yet big names and therefore should be despised, when it is very clear what these guys can offer. We wait untill they become big names and then we beg them. Untill we value what we have, untill we develop our youth system and grassroot football, we will continue to beg, we will continue to restlessly venture outside with our FA president and the entire coaching crew to beg a player or two to consider playing for us, we try to appeal to their emotions, we try to evoke sympathy. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:06pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
JohnBullMySon: Nobody is against the inclusion of FB's. They are not less Nigerian, what we are against is our inability to groom talents through grassroot football, and begging players. The door is always open to anybody that wants to play for the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:07pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Meliforme:whose fault is it that Nwakali is according to you languishing in the segunda liga? 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:08pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
I appreciate your concerns about the risk of the national team being populated with mercenaries like the Kevin Prince Boateng's of this world but the brutal reality is that if we want to stay competitive we would need the foreign based contingent to seriously beef our ranks. The foreign born players get early and quality coaching unfortunately our bright young stars don't get. Football like someone said has gone fully scientific. Even when you discover talents local talents you still have to rely on foreign clubs to polish them something most foreign born players have already under gone. It's good we continue to groom and encourage our young talents but not shun the talented foreign guys too. These two approaches can be adopted simultaneously. The important goal in all of this is getting the best players to rep Naija. No single approach should be followed so single mindedly that the quality of the team suffers i.e. giving chances to a local prospect who is yet to live up to expectation while ignoring a genuinely talented foreign born player who might need just a little convincing. TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:11pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Truidstar: People do have struggles. There are times when things will not work out as envisaged. But i will never look down on potential. Never. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:12pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
chrisooblog: What is the use recruiting these players with scientific orientation if they have little to no passion for the team. Will the scientific training give them the passion to play for us? I did not say we do not need them. I said change the policy and keep to those who show desire to play for us. It is fruitless trying to convince them because you will just get the camp filled with players with no passion for the team. By the way, Iheanacho was one of the best players in the EPL last year. I do not think football is too scientific for him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:13pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Truidstar:my fault ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 3:13pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Meliforme:So how did you come to the conclusion that they went to beg them? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:15pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
JohnBullMySon: Did you read what you posted? We did not need to convince Balogun to play for us. He reached out to is to express his availability. Eguavoen talked about Ebuehi's commitment for the team. He did not need to talk too much. As soon as he called Ebuehi, Ebuehi assured him was coming. That is my point. We need a policy to recruit those with passion to play for us or those mentally ready. When they are ready they will reach out to us. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:16pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:sentiment don mk u Dey reason like intelligent ode ![]() Keep on running circles arguing on real facts. U no knw say gone are the days players like maradonna and Pepe are discovered in the slums of aba,port harcourt,jos and Lagos |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:17pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Meliforme: Dropping a struggling player doesn’t mean one is looking down at his potentials 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:19pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
JohnBullMySon: We did not beg. We called them to CONVINCE ![]() Pure begging. Pinnick: Please now, play. Olise: No. Pinnick: Consider us now. Ah ah. We are a great side. Olise: No. Pinnick: What can I do for you to help you change your mind. Olise: If you qualify for the world cup, I will go. Thunder fire your world cup mouth. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:19pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:and those born and bred here wey no get passion for the team nko? The likes of osimehn,Dennis and ighalo wey shun afcon she’s dem be foreign born kids? Abi almighty jay jay and others that shunned invite for friendlies during their time in the national team dem born them for America abi? Balogun reached out to us because he realized he wasn’t good for the German national team. Em eye open on time ![]() ![]() ![]() Same goes to ekong 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:20pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
charlesemeka85: Osimhen played on the streets. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:21pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
charlesemeka85: Stop spreading false narratives Osimhen declared himself ready for the AFCON. It was Covid-19 that stopped him from fighting to play for us. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:22pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
charlesemeka85: The door is open. Let them reach out when they realize. Stop begging. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:23pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
JohnBullMySon: Please do not repeat the emboldened words. How can you say that we can't draw up a winning eleven sans FB's. Should i draw up one for you? We will not compare NB's to FB's, but for you to say those words, you are showing sentiments. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 3:24pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:Lol that's very untrue. Keshi was the one who reached out to Balogun before he agreed. At his age, he readily agreed to play. Ebuehi was approached by Rohr, initially he declined but later agreed on subsequent proposal. Now you can't question his commitment. So what makes you think they can't be passionate and committed after being called up? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:25pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:it is the duty of grassroots coaches to discover this players and recommend them to our youth team coaches I hv said this before that the best players for our national youth teams are in academies and grassroots teams which hv contributed to 80% of successful players exported to Europe since the past 15 years In past 20 years only 2 players I can remember who moved direct from the npfl to Europe and had good careers in top flight European clubs are musa and taiye Taiwo |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:26pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: He is not struggling with his skills, just circumstances that he doesn't have complete control over. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:27pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:no one is begging them and as their inclusion causes you so much anguish and pain be ready for the worst cus more is coming ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:27pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:no one is begging them and as their inclusion causes you so much anguish and pain be ready for the worst cus more are coming ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 3:28pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Meliforme:Draw up the squad, lets see how it stands against the top African teams. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:28pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
charlesemeka85: So what are you arguing? I said we should build our youth development structure. So what is your problem? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:29pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Meliforme: He is struggling and it’s not a crime to struggle . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:29pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
JohnBullMySon:leave am mk em Dey yarn konti Keshi reached out to balogun and Sidney Sam at the same time and both accepted but immediately the Germans swooped the latter who was doing well for leverkusen then 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:30pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
Bros how else do you want them to show this passion by getting nailed on a cross? Balogun has suffered countless injuries playing for SE yet he's ever committed. Aina was crying hot tears after our loss to Tunisia. Aribo always committed as well. Ebuehi despite not being in the original squad for 2021 afcon didn't pull diva stunts when he was called up as a replacement. Even the local ones how can you measure their commitment and passion? Players we have to beg and pamper to show up for a match. Ordinary bench that Dennis was sitting for Moses Simon he was giving rohr attitude. Aina and Tyrone that were ignored a lot of times in favor of shehu still showed commitment to the team. TheGoodJoe: 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:31pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
TheGoodJoe:I hv no qualms with having a good development program on ground here but that shouldn’t stop us from luring kids from the diaspora good enough to add quality to the team |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:31pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
charlesemeka85: If their inclusion bothers me, will I rep Ola Aina and Ebuehi? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:32pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
charlesemeka85: I said change policy. Invite those that reach out to us. Stop trying to convince them. If you need to convince them, they have no passion for the team. Finito. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:34pm On Feb 22, 2022 |
chrisooblog: Have a policy of them reaching out to us. Nathan Tella is a recent example. He made it known that he has a desire to play for us. We did not need to convince him. He is passionate for the team. We saw same with others like Balogun. Have an open policy for them to reach out to us when they want to play for us. Finito. |
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