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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:59pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
u for clean cr7 name na

To put who ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 5:03pm On Feb 22, 2022
kellycute:
so you support the idea of begging foreign born to play for us?. Person say he nor wan una, una still dey beg am. Na wa o.
As much as I can remember, hardly anyone says no outrightly and NFF keeps pursuing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:06pm On Feb 22, 2022
cheesy
andrewbaba44:


To put who ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:11pm On Feb 22, 2022
At Leicester Mercury ,fans are saying iheanacho is a better option up front than daka

But Na another thing my people Dey talk here

It’s well

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 5:20pm On Feb 22, 2022
andrewbaba44:
At Leicester Mercury ,fans are saying iheanacho is a better option up front than daka

But Na another thing my people Dey talk here

It’s well
A scenario of a prophet has no honour only in his country.

But it also depends on the formation the coach wants to deploy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 5:32pm On Feb 22, 2022
andrewbaba44:
At Leicester Mercury ,fans are saying iheanacho is a better option up front than daka

But Na another thing my people Dey talk here

It’s well
Ihenacho matter sef dey hard to explain grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 5:41pm On Feb 22, 2022
chrisooblog:
I appreciate your concerns about the risk of the national team being populated with mercenaries like the Kevin Prince Boateng's of this world but the brutal reality is that if we want to stay competitive we would need the foreign based contingent to seriously beef our ranks.

The foreign born players get early and quality coaching unfortunately our bright young stars don't get.

Football like someone said has gone fully scientific. Even when you discover talents local talents you still have to rely on foreign clubs to polish them something most foreign born players have already under gone.

It's good we continue to groom and encourage our young talents but not shun the talented foreign guys too. These two approaches can be adopted simultaneously. The important goal in all of this is getting the best players to rep Naija. No single approach should be followed so single mindedly that the quality of the team suffers i.e. giving chances to a local prospect who is yet to live up to expectation while ignoring a genuinely talented foreign born player who might need just a little convincing.


Maduka Okoye had not lived up to any expectations before he was called to the S.E

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:42pm On Feb 22, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
Ihenacho matter sef dey hard to explain grin

Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:43pm On Feb 22, 2022
Joebie:
it's sad.

Modified
The other day I was schooling a guy who thought he was better than Black Americans

You guys are being unnecessarily petty...
Going after foreign borns isn't an issue.... I don't know what angle thegoodjoe is getting at, but for me, the NFF shouldn't be spending so much resource just to convince one or two foreign born players to represent us when such resources could be channelled into developing our grassroot football back home . It appears that the NFF don't have much interest in developing our grassroot football, which is unfortunate, seeing as it has always been a source of pride for us.
See, I'm also a big basketball fan and I support our national team passionately.. The men and female team is filled 95% with foreign born players and i totally support it.. Why? because we aren't a basketball playing nation! We don't have the talent and resource for it.. But you see America, we have plenty of people there who develop the passion for the sport back there . But the same can't be said of football... The NFF shouldn't, in the in their relentless pursuit of FB players forget their primary responsibility of developing our football back home..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 5:45pm On Feb 22, 2022
andrewbaba44:
At Leicester Mercury ,fans are saying iheanacho is a better option up front than daka

But Na another thing my people Dey talk here

It’s well
you will be labeled patriotic and emotive bias
lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:51pm On Feb 22, 2022
Danielnino00:

You guys are being unnecessarily petty...
Going after foreign borns isn't an issue.... I don't know what angle thegoodjoe is getting at, but for me, the NFF shouldn't be spending so much resource just to convince one or two foreign born players to represent us when such resources could be channelled into developing our grassroot football back home . It appears that the NFF don't have much interest in developing our grassroot football, which is unfortunate, seeing as it has always been a source of pride for us.
See, I'm also a big basketball fan and I support our national team passionately.. The men and female team is filled 95% with foreign born players and i totally support it.. Why? because we aren't a basketball playing nation! We don't have the talent and resource for it.. But you see America, we have plenty of people there who develop the passion for the sport back there . But the same can't be said of football... The NFF shouldn't, in the in their relentless pursuit of FB players forget their primary responsibility of developing our football back home..

And who told you the nff ignores or abandons football development in the country? Mk we Dey talk wetin we knw abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 6:01pm On Feb 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Let him be the poorest. He has the passion to play for us. Than giving red carpet to Maradona that has no passion to play for us.

I'm sorry to say but you have a very narcissistic mindset and you need to stop it before it eats you up; especially if you have intentions of going into coaching full time.

Excellent knowledge of the round leather game but poor man management skills. Same thing destroyed Oliseh.

Whether you like it or not, Nigeria will always remain second choice to 99% of these foreign born players and the last thing you can do is to blame them.

What has Nigeria ever done for them? What has Nigeria ever done for their families? Is it not the same Nigeria their parents ran away from? Is it not the same Nigeria that is known for poor treatment of its players: both old and new?

What is so attractive about our football both on and off the pitch that they should feel so excited to commit to?

Why do you feel so entitled to their loyalty when you contributed absolutely nothing to their growth?

Or you want them to commit just because you are Nigeria and you feel you are worth it cheesy

We should even be ashamed to still call ourselves the Giants of Africa. We lost that attribute a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago.

I used to blame these foreign borns a lot but I sat down and had a rethink. I am against BEGGING them but you can't tell me that trying to convince them to weigh their options and choose us is a bad thing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bettylionness: 6:11pm On Feb 22, 2022
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 6:14pm On Feb 22, 2022
Danielnino00:

You guys are being unnecessarily petty...
Going after foreign borns isn't an issue.... I don't know what angle thegoodjoe is getting at, but for me, the NFF shouldn't be spending so much resource just to convince one or two foreign born players to represent us when such resources could be channelled into developing our grassroot football back home . It appears that the NFF don't have much interest in developing our grassroot football, which is unfortunate, seeing as it has always been a source of pride for us.
See, I'm also a big basketball fan and I support our national team passionately.. The men and female team is filled 95% with foreign born players and i totally support it.. Why? because we aren't a basketball playing nation! We don't have the talent and resource for it.. But you see America, we have plenty of people there who develop the passion for the sport back there . But the same can't be said of football... The NFF shouldn't, in the in their relentless pursuit of FB players forget their primary responsibility of developing our football back home..
I agree with you. But honestly, truth be told, it is not the job of the NFF to develop our grassroot football. It has never been their job. They can't even do it because they lack the finance. It takes a lot of money to achieve what is needed. Ahbi is it the cost of flight ticket to England and hotel or Airbnb to visit Olise that will be used to develop grassroot football?

Grassroot football is the responsibility of the sports ministry. It is called the Federal ministry of youth and sports development for a reason. The name is not a mistake. Go to their website and see their proper role. NFF is primarily for care and regulation of professional footballing activities in Nigeria and concerning Nigeria. That's why they visit our National team players often. Sports development is merely in a supporting role.

Whether it is due to corruption or lack of finance that made the ministry forget their duties, I don't know. The only thing they seem to know how to do is fight with pinnick over who becomes the SE coach. They'll leave their job to do another man's job.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 6:15pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
you said it all

Those against luring of diaspora born players are just emotional but for an enterprise to flourish one has to get rid of such mentality

A good example which is normal in Nigeria is employing your friend or relative who is not experienced or qualified for a particular post in your establishment at the expense of a top professional with years of experience just because of mere sentiment of helping a relative cheesy

By doing such your are doing your business no good and the chances of grumbling is high

If the govt or private sector invests in football by building academies or stadiums..

roads that will lead to the academies and stadiums will have to be built and everyone will benefit from the infrastructure.

If we rely on foreign players then that means no infrastructure will be built by the government and Nigeria will continue to rely on private academies.

This is not a case of employing your friend and even if it is a case of employing your friend then that friend or relative will be qualified because people who own companies will not be friends with uneducated people.

If you graduate with 4.8gp in accounting and my relative or friend graduates with 4.1gp in accounting then my relative or friend will get the job because they are also qualified for the job and I own the company so I decide who to employ.. and that is the advantage of the quality of your network and is also the same reason FBs like olise and eze and iwobi will get a club in the England before HBs like Nwakali and Sadiq and Awoniyi..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:16pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:


And who told you the nff ignores or abandons football development in the country? Mk we Dey talk wetin we knw abeg


It's evident..
When was the last time our cadet teams recorded any success?
No be the same cadet teams NFF dey appoint mediocre coaches for without care?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:23pm On Feb 22, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
I agree with you. But honestly, truth be told, it is not the job of the NFF to develop our grassroot football. It has never been their job. They can't even do it because they lack the finance. It takes a lot of money to achieve what is needed. Ahbi is it the cost of flight ticket to England and hotel or Airbnb to visit Olise that will be used to develop grassroot football?

Grassroot football is the responsibility of the sports ministry. It is called the Federal ministry of youth and sports development for a reason. The name is not a mistake. Go to their website and see their proper role. NFF is primarily for care and regulation of professional footballing activities in Nigeria and concerning Nigeria. That's why they visit our National team players often. Sports development is merely in a supporting role.

Whether it is due to corruption or lack of finance that made the ministry forget their duties, I don't know. The only thing they seem to know how to do is fight with pinnick over who becomes the SE coach. They'll leave their job to do another man's job.

So the NFF should focus on the super eagles and super falcons and leave the others at the mercy of the ministry of youth and sports?
What about the local league?

Why do you think the ministry of youth and sports fund the NFF if they don't want them to partake in the responsibility?
I agree that the private sector have a big role to play..In fact, they have been doing quite well, with our academies now giving us some quality exports to Europe, but the NFF are still at the forefront of it all,being the body empowered with football administration in the country..Imagine, we can't even get our national league on TV! A whole Nigeria!

Mind you, I'm not just making reference to the money being spent to approach these players,but also the time and efforts.. It's sending a wrong message back home that the NFF have their priorities set elsewhere.. It shouldn't be so..

See, it isn't even the whole foreign born pursuit matter.. imagine the NFF trying to force NPFL players on the national team with the hope that it would boost the league's profile.. How would that work?
Simply put, we are chasing short term solutions to long term problems...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 6:24pm On Feb 22, 2022
Spalletti: I Was Forced To Play ‘Half Fit’ Osimhen Against Cagliari

Napoli manager Luciano Spalletti has revealed that Victor Osimhen passed a late fitness test to feature in Monday’s Serie A clash against Cagliari, reports Completesports.
Osimhen started the game on the bench and replaced Andre Petagna in the 67th minute.
The Nigeria international scored a late equaliser as Napoli battled their hosts to a 1-1 draw.
“It was a complicated game for us, Cagliari deserved more. In fact, we deserved something less. We never took the game into our own hands, even though we had more possession. They wanted to play this game here and we wanted to play another,” Spalletti told DAZN after the game.
“We have to be happy with the result because it happens to everyone after these Europa League games. We did too little in terms of quality. Don’t say it’s everyone any more, every time it happens in two days we lose 4-5 players. It was good of Osimhen to be available at the last second, he was at risk of not being in the game.
“Fabian had a problem, he was in pain, to play more than 20 minutes was a risk. As we saw in Barcelona, with his head broken with the eight points he wanted to come back and play the last 30 minutes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:25pm On Feb 22, 2022
Danielnino00:



It's evident..
When was the last time our cadet teams recorded any success?
No be the same cadet teams NFF dey appoint mediocre coaches for without care?
and that is the fault of the football house abi the cadet coaches and scouts?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 6:26pm On Feb 22, 2022
andrewbaba44:
At Leicester Mercury ,fans are saying iheanacho is a better option up front than daka

But Na another thing my people Dey talk here

It’s well

Complete it, they are saying Iheanacho is a better option in a two than Daka, you yourself don't believe Iheanacho is better as a lone striker than Daka

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:27pm On Feb 22, 2022
Danielnino00:



It's evident..
When was the last time our cadet teams recorded any success?
No be the same cadet teams NFF dey appoint mediocre coaches for without care?
sports development in general is the sole responsibility of the ministry of youths and sports not the nff
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:28pm On Feb 22, 2022
Subzero47:


Complete it, they are saying Iheanacho is a better option in a two than Daka, you yourself don't believe Iheanacho is better as a lone striker than Daka
no right thinking coach will pick iheanacho at the expense of daka as a lone striker
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:28pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
and that is the fault of the football house abi the cadet coaches and scouts?

How can you want to blame the coaches and scout when it's the football house themselves that appoint them?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:29pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
sports development in general is the sole responsibility of the ministry of youths and sports not the nff

I'm talking football..
Why don't the NFF stop collecting funds from the sports ministry if they can't take the responsibility of football development in the country??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 6:39pm On Feb 22, 2022
COOL10:


I'm sorry to say but you have a very narcissistic mindset and you need to stop it before it eats you up; especially if you have intentions of going into coaching full time.

Excellent knowledge of the round leather game but poor man management skills. Same thing destroyed Oliseh.

Whether you like it or not, Nigeria will always remain second choice to 99% of these foreign born players and the last thing you can do is to blame them.

What has Nigeria ever done for them? What has Nigeria ever done for their families? Is it not the same Nigeria their parents ran away from? Is it not the same Nigeria that is known for poor treatment of its players: both old and new?

What is so attractive about our football both on and off the pitch that they should feel so excited to commit to?

Why do you feel so entitled to their loyalty when you contributed absolutely nothing to their growth?

Or you want them to commit just because you are Nigeria and you feel you are worth it cheesy

We should even be ashamed to still call ourselves the Giants of Africa. We lost that attribute a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago.

I used to blame these foreign borns a lot but I sat down and had a rethink. I am against BEGGING them but you can't tell me that trying to convince them to weigh their options and choose us is a bad thing.

No emotions. No sentiments. Wisely stated.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:40pm On Feb 22, 2022
Subzero47:


Complete it, they are saying Iheanacho is a better option in a two than Daka, you yourself don't believe Iheanacho is better as a lone striker than Daka

They didn’t use a 2 strikers recently nah

Na wetin I see I talk oooo ,not hiding anything here
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 6:45pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
sports development in general is the sole responsibility of the ministry of youths and sports not the nff

JohnBullMySon:
I agree with you. But honestly, truth be told, it is not the job of the NFF to develop our grassroot football. It has never been their job. They can't even do it because they lack the finance. It takes a lot of money to achieve what is needed. Ahbi is it the cost of flight ticket to England and hotel or Airbnb to visit Olise that will be used to develop grassroot football?

Grassroot football is the responsibility of the sports ministry. It is called the Federal ministry of youth and sports development for a reason. The name is not a mistake. Go to their website and see their proper role. NFF is primarily for care and regulation of professional footballing activities in Nigeria and concerning Nigeria. That's why they visit our National team players often. Sports development is merely in a supporting role.

Whether it is due to corruption or lack of finance that made the ministry forget their duties, I don't know. The only thing they seem to know how to do is fight with pinnick over who becomes the SE coach. They'll leave their job to do another man's job.

It is the responsibility of the federations to develop grassroot sports and not the responsibility of the sports ministry that's why the sports ministry funds the federations.. the sports ministry can also participate in grassroot football development but that is not its responsibility...

It is called sports ministry so it has to participate in all sports grassroots programs not just football.. Its the NFF job to focus on football development and regulation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 6:47pm On Feb 22, 2022
Danielnino00:


So the NFF should focus on the super eagles and super falcons and leave the others at the mercy of the ministry of youth and sports?
What about the local league?

Why do you think the ministry of youth and sports fund the NFF if they don't want them to partake in the responsibility?
I agree that the private sector have a big role to play..In fact, they have been doing quite well, with our academies now giving us some quality exports to Europe, but the NFF are still at the forefront of it all,being the body empowered with football administration in the country..Imagine, we can't even get our national league on TV! A whole Nigeria!

Mind you, I'm not just making reference to the money being spent to approach these players,but also the time and efforts.. It's sending a wrong message back home that the NFF have their priorities set elsewhere.. It shouldn't be so..

See, it isn't even the whole foreign born pursuit matter.. imagine the NFF trying to force NPFL players on the national team with the hope that it would boost the league's profile.. How would that work?
Simply put, we are chasing short term solutions to long term problems...
You don't get it very well. The Job of NFF is to take care of our National team players and regulate professional football in Nigeria. They have little to no business with developing NPFL clubs apart from funding and regulating the LMC which is under them. Even LMC is meant to be collecting money from the league and not NFF. That's how the bureaucracy should work.

Those NPFL clubs have owners. They're not owned by NFF. Those owners should go and do their job. NFF majorly have business with the National team setup and players who are on the National team roster and then with LMC. Every other thing is secondary.

For the TV thing. It's a complex issue so I don't really know who else to blame apart from us. Unfortunately the league is unprofitable. That is where NFF is supposed to be collecting money from and not spending money on. If things were normal. Broadcasters should be pouring in for bids, making money from ads and paying money to LMC which in turn pays to the Clubs and remits taxes to NFF.

Clubs then pay their players, develop their academies and support football generally. LMC then develops the league further and improves infrastructure in a supplementary role since the clubs should already be doing that. NFF then uses their cut to pay National team players and staff, and also for supplementary and CSR purposes.

So why are broadcasters not coming? It all boils down to viewership. The problem lies squarely with Nigerians. We are at fault because we are not watching our own league. Why are we not watching it?

Partially because its not on TV. It's a complex issue I said grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 6:49pm On Feb 22, 2022
charlesemeka85:
we will continue reaching out to them if u no like am stop watching national team matches cheesy

Some of these people are the ones who marry the woman that was "AVAILABLE" and not the one they wanted for themselves. Why? They couldn't press on with the right words to trigger her emotions. The moment they are tuned down, they close door and walk away shamefully.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 6:51pm On Feb 22, 2022
codemaniacs:



It is the responsibility of the federations to develop grassroot sports and not the responsibility of the sports ministry that's why the sports ministry funds the federations.. the sports ministry can also participate in grassroot football development but that is not its responsibility...

It is called sports ministry so it has to participate in all sports grassroots programs not just football.. Its the NFF job to focus on football development and regulation.
You can't tell them their job. There are laws, acts and statutes already. Football development at the grassroot level lies with the ministry.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:52pm On Feb 22, 2022
COOL10:


I'm sorry to say but you have a very narcissistic mindset and you need to stop it before it eats you up; especially if you have intentions of going into coaching full time.

Excellent knowledge of the round leather game but poor man management skills. Same thing destroyed Oliseh.

Whether you like it or not, Nigeria will always remain second choice to 99% of these foreign born players and the last thing you can do is to blame them.

What has Nigeria ever done for them? What has Nigeria ever done for their families? Is it not the same Nigeria their parents ran away from? Is it not the same Nigeria that is known for poor treatment of its players: both old and new?

What is so attractive about our football both on and off the pitch that they should feel so excited to commit to?

Why do you feel so entitled to their loyalty when you contributed absolutely nothing to their growth?

Or you want them to commit just because you are Nigeria and you feel you are worth it cheesy

We should even be ashamed to still call ourselves the Giants of Africa. We lost that attribute a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago.

I used to blame these foreign borns a lot but I sat down and had a rethink. I am against BEGGING them but you can't tell me that trying to convince them to weigh their options and choose us is a bad thing.

After all, you have said, you still missed the main point.

I did not say Olise and co. should have passion for us. I did not say we are Brazil that they should prefer us to England.

I said, we should stop this routine of trying to convince players to play for us. We have loads of committed players, both home-born and foreign born. Focus on working with those ones.

Keep an open door policy for any them who in the future want to play for us to have a chance to play for the team.

Simple.

Go back to prioritizing youth development.

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