ThickSharon123:


You People want to be like us by all means. Our clothes, masquerades, culture everything you people copy, copy. That's how on that silly, baseless Ijaw forum I saw one that said Isia agu was made by Ijaws; funny bunch of creek nomads.

It was said by a past historian and I quote explicitly;

"Jo men seem to be lost, they have no origin and culture whatsoever..."
I can never forget that quote ... So the question is, where was your culture derived from? That's how you people claim from Bini, to Oru in Imo state, to Aboh, to Ile-Ife trying to make up for the mess you people are.

SaintBishop:
Yawns I'm tired of hearing your nonsense and forcing your brotherhood down my throat.

WorWorBoy:
Any Igbos you see in Okrika are descendant of Igbo slaves. We are waiting for the day you will come and claim Okrika.

SaintBishop:
You want to cry? let me give you tissue to wipe your tears? You are a worthless and useless tribe. You can't even saves yourselves from getting fvck from small ikwerres,who claim to be from Benin. How useless can you baboons be? And there's nothing like ubani, it Is IBANI you land grabbing lost Jews.

ThickSharon123:


Okay, I dare all your generation, go to Okrirka market Square. Market Square is part good becuase you'll get an even response from everyone and say "You are all Ijaws, ABI?"

Video it and send. Not this online argument. I promise you, immediately you do that we won't have all these talks. And make sure you show all the details it is Okrirka. Then I promise, if you see me say kpem...

OfoIgbo:


Since real Ubani people started asserting themselves and fvcking you Ijaws up, it has been very painful for you lot.

Long Live the ruler of Ubani.

I hope all the Ijaw slaves and migrants descendants are paying proper homage to the Ngwa/Ndoki king of Ubani

SaintBishop:
On Nairaland abi? We are yet to see one Ibani man support you igbos, neither are we yet to see One kalabari man or Okrikan man support your land grabbing monkeys from your red mud enclave.It is only you igbos who keeps claiming them sucks to be lost unwanted freak from Juda

SaintBishop:
You want to cry? let me give you tissue to wipe your tears? You are a worthless and useless tribe. You can't even saves yourselves from getting fvck from small ikwerres,who claim to be from Benin. How useless can you baboons be? And there's nothing like ubani, it Is IBANI you land grabbing lost Jews.

OfoIgbo:


Long live Ubani, ruled by an Igbo-descended king

Long live Opobo, named after an Igbo king of Ubani
Long live Opobo, the estate of the Jajas, an Igbo-descended royal family and owners of the land.

The Ijaw migrant subjects of these Igbo territories are jealous.

Igbo kwenu

Eastlink:
Whether Ubani or Ibani both are the same thing. Dialectical differences, take note.

engrsyer:
I see, so in your history/write up no relationship between Bille and Bonny. Bille and Bonny has no cultural relationship/ties meanwhile both has been aged long best of friends and brothers. Is alright.

At bolded, that history is not correct. Is that what the Okrikans tell the publisher of this historic books? Indeed true history is been buried for centuries what we see now are half baked histories or distorted history. For record sake Okrikans migrated from Akpata Bille(Okolo Bille/Old Bille) in Ogonokom, Centeal Abua in Abua/Odual LGA. Same thing goes to Bille people, Ibani, Nembe people and Ogoloma people all were settled as relatives at that Ogonokom metropolis community which is now a small village and still existing in Abua. I would stop here but if you doubt go and ask questions.

I come in peace.

Bokroma Owu tuwo

Putindbutt:

Aro belongs to Ibibios. The dynasty and the deities of Aro belongs to the Ibibios.

SlayerForever:



No, Okrika didn't migrate from Abua.

As for Bille I do not know. So I can't argue.

What I noticed with history in these places is that some other groups that immigrated later tend to superimpose their history on the group they met on ground. Analysing what you said and taken it as a truth, it means that there was a migration truly from Abua into Okrika, however they met and mixed with the native Okrikans who were Igbos. Same as the ijaw folk who migrated to Okrika later.

These later migrants now present their histories as history of the land they migrated to, which is historically wrong.

So that's the explanation. Mind you all the historical information captured was from the 1800s when the history was still young.

Alabo7978:

mumu.
Igbo people ehn...God forbid...
after the ibibio ruling house welcomed the Igbo batch that came, they conspired to remove him and replacing him with another prince whose mother is Igbo, but the coup was repelled. the igbos invited the akpas from cross river who were enemies of ibibio and they drove the ibibios away.

that was what yoy wanted to do with the okoloama people but they were smarter and more crafty because they learnt the Igbo people Language.

give igbos an inch, and they will want the whole square.
anyways... the ABRIBA and Aro people are cross river/ibibio people and the ubini-ukpabi whom igbos claim is not even theirs.

claimers tufiaa.

Alabo7978:

this is a prove that you know nothing at all.

the first expedition was carried out in the early 1800s and only Igbo words were collected.
subsequent expeditions were carried out by smith, Merrick, Clarke, Sigismund Koelle on his book Polyglotta Africana'.
linguist such as Paul hair, Gerrit Dimmendaal, Williamson kay, Roger Blench etc later took notice of the ijoid Languages.
you are an illiterate, a dullard, a braindead buffalo.

I am a Nembe man and we are an ijoid speaking city state.
even the Alagoa you all condemn is a Nembe man.
my goodness God, grow a brain.
just as the Igbo nation has okija, umuahia, mbaise, akwa, Onitsha etc, that is how ijaw has clans or towns like Nembe, okrika, kalabari Bonny Gbaran, Obolo, Opobo, Akassa etc.

Yoruba has Ife, oyo, Lagos, ijebu etc..

that is what an ethnic nationality is. I thought you are intelligent, but you are not.
to shock you, there is no particular tribe as "ijaw" just as there is no particular tribe named Igbo or Yoruba.
everyone defending ijaw here is spread vast from the various clans. me am a Nembe man.
my God, do we still have dullards in this era were information is easily obtainable?
brother man, ijaw is the name of the nationality, check yourself you no well. there is no particular name of a location known as "ijaw" just as "Yoruba" and "IBO" it is only the name of the nationality.
what is a nation?
a nation are group of people that share same believes, habits, cultural norms, philosophy, Language, history.

all this things I took time to explain won't still enter your head because you are a natural dullard, a braindead one for that matter.

engrsyer:
I see, so in your history/write up no relationship between Bille and Bonny. Bille and Bonny has no cultural relationship/ties meanwhile both has been aged long best of friends and brothers. Is alright.

At bolded, that history is not correct. Is that what the Okrikans tell the publisher of this historic books? Indeed true history is been buried for centuries what we see now are half baked histories or distorted history. For record sake Okrikans migrated from Akpata Bille(Okolo Bille/Old Bille) in Ogonokom, Centeal Abua in Abua/Odual LGA. Same thing goes to Bille people, Ibani, Nembe people and Ogoloma people all were settled as relatives at that Ogonokom metropolis community which is now a small village and still existing in Abua. I would stop here but if you doubt go and ask questions.

I come in peace.

Bokroma Owu tuwo

engrsyer:
Well i wont disagree with you less about the mixing of blood with the Igbo but what i know and which was been confirmed by one senior Okrika chief that i had an historic discussions with, confirmed to me that what i told him the migration of Okrikans was what his father told him after i introduced my self to him as a Bille man in Bonny Island about four years ago.

The name Kiriki(Wakirirke) emanated after the people of Ogoloma and People of Okrika(main Okrika) met in bush on their way to market(Fe) for transaction saw theirselves speaking almost same language and understood theirselves the Okrika man now told the Ogoloma man that so you can hear me and the Ogoloma man replied that yes i can hear then the Okrika man now said we are wakirike(meaning we are alike or the same brothers). There are two brothers that found Okrika nation. The Opu Okubeye whom found Ogoloma and the other man which i have forgotten his name found Okrika and which are neigbhours. They all left Okolo-Bille in Central Abua. By then the present name Abua was not in existence but to point out the location of where they were with present location is what i used to tell you. That doesn't mean Okrika migrated out of Abua. Ogonokom is presently in Abua LGA. Same the Ibani man was also there after migrated from Central ijaw to that place.

Alabo7978:

they will never concour.

everyone knows at the time Igbo people were the most demanded people because of their farming expertise hence they were good commodity for slavery. even the okrikans have some waves of migration from Nembe and Bonny and the central delta area.

Igbo people with their grabbing attitude are busy bringing unwanted hatred on themselves. They do not want to live with their neighbors in peace. they condemn the Fulani people for having expansionists mentality but they are the same with the people they condemn and that is why karma is dealing with them in Enugu and ebonyi area where herdsmen are entering and lodging in their forests and destroying their crops.

well all their lies will end in Nairaland, they can not dare enter the creek or delta to come and misbehave like this. they are cowards and will hide behind a faceless forum to bring more hatred on themselves and when they begin to suffer for it, they cry injustice when they themselves brought the weight on themselves.

I have learnt so many lessons on this nairaland about Igbo people. give them an inch and they will want to claim the entire square kilometers.

SaintBishop:

You no get sense at all the screenshot he has been posting are all from Okrikans you dumb shit. How can you be saying that the Okrikans are igbos yet you can't even identify them through their names? Stupid.

Alabo7978:
one day a white man will tell you the fulani's and Ghanaian share the same ancestry just so he could publish and make money, and you will believe without going to ask the people in concern the truth.

engrsyer:
Well i wont disagree with you less about the mixing of blood with the Igbo but what i know and which was been confirmed by one senior Okrika chief that i had an historic discussions with, confirmed to me that what i told him the migration of Okrikans was what his father told him after i introduced my self to him as a Bille man in Bonny Island about four years ago.

The name Kiriki(Wakirirke) emanated after the people of Ogoloma and People of Okrika(main Okrika) met in bush on their way to market(Fe) for transaction saw theirselves speaking almost same language and understood theirselves the Okrika man now told the Ogoloma man that so you can hear me and the Ogoloma man replied that yes i can hear then the Okrika man now said we are wakirike(meaning we are alike or the same brothers). There are two brothers that found Okrika nation. The Opu Okubeye whom found Ogoloma and the other man which i have forgotten his name found Okrika and which are neigbhours. They all left Okolo-Bille in Central Abua. By then the present name Abua was not in existence but to point out the location of where they were with present location is what i used to tell you. That doesn't mean Okrika migrated out of Abua. Ogonokom is presently in Abua LGA. Same the Ibani man was also there after migrated from Central ijaw to that place.

Alabo7978:

they will never concour.

everyone knows at the time Igbo people were the most demanded people because of their farming expertise hence they were good commodity for slavery. even the okrikans have some waves of migration from Nembe and Bonny and the central delta area.

Igbo people with their grabbing attitude are busy bringing unwanted hatred on themselves. They do not want to live with their neighbors in peace. they condemn the Fulani people for having expansionists mentality but they are the same with the people they condemn and that is why karma is dealing with them in Enugu and ebonyi area where herdsmen are entering and lodging in their forests and destroying their crops.

well all their lies will end in Nairaland, they can not dare enter the creek or delta to come and misbehave like this. they are cowards and will hide behind a faceless forum to bring more hatred on themselves and when they begin to suffer for it, they cry injustice when they themselves brought the weight on themselves.

I have learnt so many lessons on this nairaland about Igbo people. give them an inch and they will want to claim the entire square kilometers.

SlayerForever:




You only have a bit of chance to talk because Brass has not become the discussion yet. We have documents in our possession that clearly state that the Brass people and Nembe are Igbos. You have seen the various threads.
Oru is of course Igbo too. Both people have been heavily ijawnized almost beyond recognition but we know who they are.

SlayerForever:



The elders in 1800 said they came from Afam Ndoki.

Where does the Opu Okubeye and the other brother come into the picture?

Alabo7978:

what elders?
didn't you see he was referring to okrika?
so you now want to say okrika people came from Afam ndoki?
forgetting ndoki is ijaw (aminadokiari)
there is also OKOLOMA there, and to show igbos doesn't own that area, it belonged to the Bonny people.
if you doubt, go there and ask the people staying there. when portharcourt became crowded, people began to move into oyigbo, Afam, okoloma, kom-kom.

guess who sold land to them??
just guess?

the fubara family relations, and they still own that area for bonny, and I know alot of them because I interact with them in the real ibani/Kalabari DIALECT!

Alabo7978:

shatapp!

you don't even know Oru was the ancient name of the ijaws and not the Ijaw as we know it today.

the Europeans know us as Oru.
time will reveal how all the igbos along the upper Niger were once Oru.
infact all the people known as Oru-igbo today were once ijaw people who got swallowed so stop capping because when we set for that discussion ehn..
nairaland will scatter.
even the people at Oguta who are ijaws but fled that area at the start of the civil war back to their ancestral land of kalabari-ijaw.
infact whenever dispute arise, those people call on the Kalabari elders to come and mediate
we are not ready for that discussion but soon we will open that bee hive and scatter everywhere.

IJAW BLOOD is more vast.
the people today YOU CALL Oru-igbo have ijaw blood In them that is why you igbos tagged them Oru-igbo after they were mingled with you.

Eastlink:
If it’s not cock and bull tales, it's a Wikipedia link quoting Alagoa. What else are you Ijos from Bayelsa and Delta bringing to the discuss that we haven't heard before? We’ve not even posted other documents and you are simply shedding tears. What will you do if more roll in here? I suppose you might hide your monikers just as my friend Bishopmagic the apostle of truth. Where is Bishop sef when you need him? I expected his screenshots to be shared to Okrika groups as he promised but can't find him. Can you call his attention here?
As a matter of fact, evidence of tribal origins of all communities in the Niger-Delta was clearly documented before independence. If you lots are scholarly inclined, you could easily get these materials online and learn instead of coming here to expose your shortcomings.

What facts do Ijos have on ground that proves Ijo origin, heritage and claims to Okrika, and Kalabari? Bonny and Opobo looks like a beatdown already due to the unwavering Igbo presence till date despite the Ijo onslaught and shenanigans over time. Even the name you used to defend your false claims on Okrika is obviously Igbo. Okrika is noted to have 3 groups, Igbo the foundation, Ijo the 2nd migratory party and Ibibiod’s from Obulom. Ndigbo recognizes this fact same as the Ibibio’s, except the perennial Ijo militant and landgrabbers known to alter people's history. Even that name the other dude mentioned Opu Okubeye does it sound Ijo to you? Names like Opu Okubeye, Opu Ogalaya, and Opu Ibeye are too Igbotic to deny with roots only found in Igbo. When Bonny history talked about Ukwu the ancestor of the Brown house of Finima coming from Okrika, many of you lots might get confused? But those who study history will not as Okrika clearly has a strong Igbo foundation.

1. Oputaibeye and Opu Ogalanya for instance, is clearly Igbo and surname to folks in Igboland mostly from Rivers, Imo and Abia till this day. For instance in my village, Oputaibeye means a person with big heart amongst his mates. Look at the root of the name to understand, Opu ta ibe ye. Opu also mean a Crown on ones head or special Chieftaincy cap if you look at another ‘Uda ume’ or pronunciation in Igbo.

The truth is that, had Ijos been contented with their kinsmen in the swamps of Delta and Kololuma-Opokuma areas of Bayelsa and write the true history of these folks using valuable sources, do you think Igbos will blink an eye? Who are those you share same language with? You know these folks? Had Ogoni with Saro Wiwa not separated themselves from the Ijo ethnic agenda, Ogoni would have been singing Ijo today just like others after the civil war.

The neutral historians were not daft when they listed tribes like Oru, Ijo, Brass, Ogbia, New Calabar, Ibani, Okrika, Andoni etc as distinct ethnic groups domiciled in the lower Niger? But when you use genocide as played out by Isaac Boro in Bonny, Kalabari, Okrika, Abua, Degema, Nembe, Ogbia, and Opobo etc to impose a forceful Ijo heritage, and also use your political henchmen in old Rivers to impose a fake Ijo ethnic groupings and use your fraudulent historians to forge a fake Ijo history, then you get the result as seen here and in future relations with your neighbours as happening in Warri, Gelegele, Bonny, Port-Harcourt, Yenagoa, Obolo and other areas of the Niger-Delta. Posterity never forgives such historical genocide and karma had its way of paying back.

Alabo7978:
one day a white man will tell you the fulani's and Ghanaian share the same ancestry just so he could publish and make money, and you will believe without going to ask the people in concern the truth.

Alabo7978:



big in Igbo are odi'ukwu or vuri'ivu or nherin'nne or nnukwu but you say in your language oputabiye is someone with a big heart, LMAO. una dey try for lies o, even the devil is shocked!
someone with a big heart isn't it nnukwu-obi (nnukwu-big obi-heart) or obi-di'ukwu.
and you know say I Sabi Igbo you get mind dey lie for me.
brother man I am highly dissapointed in you.

Ekealterego:

Slayerforever, this guy is simply saying we should follow Fraudfessor Alagoa contortions of Amandokiari LOL. The brothers that Alagoa saw in his vision. LOL.
So we should not believe in documented history.