Calibrator:
These people don't know who Reacher is.

This is a guy who was given his own personal special military unit to command.

Guess you should read his exploits in the novels.

He will kill Wick first, then use Bond to strangle Bourne, all done without breaking a sweat in a five minute window.

Calibrator:
These people don't know who Reacher is.


This is a guy who was given his own personal special military unit to command.

Guess you should read his exploits in the novels.


He will kill Wick first, then use Bond to strangle Bourne, all done without breaking a sweat in a five minute window.

Kaycee7:
Weapons Museum battle vs that axe gang? Wick ends up using knives and axes in that battle.
Reacher cleared 6 men in that bathroom brawl with just his fists and feet in less than a minute.

MJBOLT:

having the drop on him is not an excuse for a guy as skilled as Wick,they beat him to unconsciousness,there's no excuse for that.

Ernest had no fighting skills whatsoever or anything to show he was well trained,he was just big and when wick realized he couldn't match his strength,he had to rely on books to win.

Casian didn't do anything to show he's no slouch except struggle with John Wick,his CV is irrevant.

And where was it mentioned that Krili is as trained as Wick in the movie or you're just making things up,being head of security doesn't mean you are highly trained all of a sudden.
In that movie,krili is just a body guard and he physically bodied Wick like nothing.

Wick ninja act is irrelevant,all 4 men are fighting in an enclosed room,where is he disappearing to the only thing saving wick throughout the 3 movies are his gun Fu skills not his physical stats,some might say plot armour too.

AnfieldFan:


Wick was sleeping, heard a noise, came out and then got hit with a metal bat on the base of his skull...

Ernest was a serbian assassin who had size and strength over Wick, he also didn't attack blindly, he tried to use the shelves to gain an advantage while trying for Wick's shoulder blade region with his knife, maybe he did this because he knew Wick was more skilled than him..

Both Wick and Cassian used Central axis relock gun stances throughout the movie and successfully evades each other.. Cassian also matched Wick in Krav Maga and Jiu jitsu on their initial fight after the imperial party scene...Wick not killing him is testament of his respect for Cassien's skills...

Krili is Losef's chief of security and the one charged with protecting his son...

Wick did most of his fighting injured and fought people close or just as skilled bad him....
Wick was having sword fights on bikes doing 70- 100....

I pointed out Wick's disappearing act to bring his stealth abilities into the equation...

Reacher was having trouble with two South American soldiers who had been retired from active duty for quite a while and he had every possible advantage over them...

AnfieldFan:

6 men who were gang members that didn't have any ounce of skill..

I just watched that scene again, he fought 4 men not 6 .
Compared to those Wick fought in the museum who had skill and made use of their skills....Knives and axes were used by both Wick and his assailants, the point is the fight was H2H....Wick was also injured and running...

I also refer you to the Wick's fight in the glass corridor against the two Asian assassins that had Katanas who were obviously very skilled as they incorporated kenjutsu, Wick uses a jiu jitsu style role to evade first, then finishes with Krav Maga Which ends the fight....

Kaycee7:
I must honestly admit that I have underestimated John Wick quite a bit.
That said, let's not drop the "retired from active duty" line for the South American soldiers like they were sitting at home eating tacos. They were freelancing, so obviously, their skills weren't dull. But the fact that they posed a threat to Reacher despite his size advantage does push me to kinda agree with you. But I'll not budge on it being a close fight.

Kaycee7:
I must honestly admit that I have underestimated John Wick quite a bit.
That said, let's not drop the "retired from active duty" line for the South American soldiers like they were sitting at home eating tacos. They were freelancing, so obviously, their skills weren't dull. But the fact that they posed a threat to Reacher despite his size advantage does push me to kinda agree with you. But I'll not budge on it being a close fight.

abduleez1:
Cleavage of Madness.....

I was expecting h2h feats for wick where he didn't use weapons to win but that one no dey

In the end they still beat him senseless,so much for skill

Ernest is an assassin,his job is to kill his target not fight them,hence the knife attack,when that didn't work he used his strength to toss wick around before wick used a book to break his jaw,if wick couldn't beat this guy without a weapon,how is he doing it to Bourne,Bond or Reacher??

Casian doesn't have any other feats except struggling with wick, whatever style they used is irrelevant because in the end John had to rely on a weapon to win again.

The only time we see wick fight without any weapon was against Krili and he lost badly,which proves my point,John cannot win his fights without weapons unless you want to prove me wrong.

All of Wick fights,he had weapons to aid him,either he used a gun,knife,sword or an axe,wick didn't beat any of those guys via H2H combat and he was constantly on the move so he had time to recover a little.

His stealth ability is irrelevant here,he's locked with 3 other guys in a room,pure H2H combat,no weapons of any kind,no hiding.
This is basically a fatal 4 way UFC bout and wick is the weakest person here physically and doesn't have any H2H feats to prove he wins here.

AnfieldFan:


Wick was sleeping, heard a noise, came out and then got hit with a metal bat on the base of his skull...

Ernest was a serbian assassin who had size and strength over Wick, he also didn't attack blindly, he tried to use the shelves to gain an advantage while trying for Wick's shoulder blade region with his knife, maybe he did this because he knew Wick was more skilled than him..

Both Wick and Cassian used Central axis relock gun stances throughout the movie and successfully evades each other.. Cassian also matched Wick in Krav Maga and Jiu jitsu on their initial fight after the imperial party scene...Wick not killing him is testament of his respect for Cassien's skills...

Krili is Losef's chief of security and the one charged with protecting his son...

Wick did most of his fighting injured and fought people close or just as skilled bad him....
Wick was having sword fights on bikes doing 70- 100....

I pointed out Wick's disappearing act to bring his stealth abilities into the equation...

Reacher was having trouble with two South American soldiers who had been retired from active duty for quite a while and he had every possible advantage over them...

MJBOLT:

I was expecting h2h feats for wick where he didn't use weapons to win but that one no dey

In the end they still beat him senseless,so much for skill

Ernest is an assassin,his job is to kill his target not fight them,hence the knife attack,when that didn't work he used his strength to toss wick around before wick used a book to break his jaw,if wick couldn't beat this guy without a weapon,how is he doing it to Bourne,Bond or Reacher??

Casian doesn't have any other feats except struggling with wick, whatever style they used is irrelevant because in the end John had to rely on a weapon to win again.

The only time we see wick fight without any weapon was against Krili and he lost badly,which proves my point,John cannot win his fights without weapons unless you want to prove me wrong.

All of Wick fights,he had weapons to aid him,either he used a gun,knife,sword or an axe,wick didn't beat any of those guys via H2H combat and he was constantly on the move so he had time to recover a little.

His stealth ability is irrelevant here,he's locked with 3 other guys in a room,pure H2H combat,no weapons of any kind,no hiding.
This is basically a fatal 4 way UFC bout and wick is the weakest person here physically and doesn't have any H2H feats to prove he wins here.

abduleez1:
Cleavage of Madness.....

I no wan argue before but person just come talk say Wick go kill the rest with their own tooth haba
John Wick wey all of us don watch,abi the other three Dem be small pikin??
I don tire abeg but make them no dey hype John Wick pass him level.

abduleez1:


Guy, just leave talk make these okoto meow meow yarns and Wick stans go rest.

Imagine someone comparing Wick with Jason Bourne in H2H combat or even skills.
Na since that time I throw towel.
No time for arguing shït.

MJBOLT:

I no wan argue before but person just come talk say Wick go kill the rest with their own tooth haba
John Wick wey all of us don watch,abi the other three Dem be small pikin??
I don tire abeg but make them no dey hype John Wick pass him level.

MJBOLT:

I was expecting h2h feats for wick where he didn't use weapons to win but that one no dey

In the end they still beat him senseless,so much for skill

Ernest is an assassin,his job is to kill his target not fight them,hence the knife attack,when that didn't work he used his strength to toss wick around before wick used a book to break his jaw,if wick couldn't beat this guy without a weapon,how is he doing it to Bourne,Bond or Reacher??

Casian doesn't have any other feats except struggling with wick, whatever style they used is irrelevant because in the end John had to rely on a weapon to win again.

The only time we see wick fight without any weapon was against Krili and he lost badly,which proves my point,John cannot win his fights without weapons unless you want to prove me wrong.

All of Wick fights,he had weapons to aid him,either he used a gun,knife,sword or an axe,wick didn't beat any of those guys via H2H combat and he was constantly on the move so he had time to recover a little.

His stealth ability is irrelevant here,he's locked with 3 other guys in a room,pure H2H combat,no weapons of any kind,no hiding.
This is basically a fatal 4 way UFC bout and wick is the weakest person here physically and doesn't have any H2H feats to prove he wins here.

abduleez1:


Guy, just leave talk make these okoto meow meow yarns and Wick stans go rest.

Imagine someone comparing Wick with Jason Bourne in H2H combat or even skills.
Na since that time I throw towel.
No time for arguing shït.

MJBOLT:

I no wan argue before but person just come talk say Wick go kill the rest with their own tooth haba
John Wick wey all of us don watch,abi the other three Dem be small pikin??
I don tire abeg but make them no dey hype John Wick pass him level.

it's obvious you didn't go through the thread
https://www.nairaland.com/post/110469588

AnfieldFan:


I'm pretty sure nobody said this or even implied it ..
Every one supporting Wick seems to think it's a close fight... Nobody bodies anybody here except in Skill where Wick is levels above the rest...

AnfieldFan:

Wick beat Ares by using her blade against her, he beat some of the fighters in that same hallway without weapons..
His first fight with Cassien quickly became H2H with no weapons

Wick defeated Kirill hand to hand without the aid of a gun or knife in the warehouse. In case you can't remember, Wick was hit by an SUV ramming into him and had his hands bound (severe disadvantages), yet he killed Kirill..
In the parrabellum glass hallway scene, Wick fought those two guys with Katanas without any, killed one by maneuvering him in front of his partner to be killed, then killed the other by quickly disarming him...

This renders your point about him needing guns mute...

In this scene Wick was bound and about to be killed then Marcus provided distraction for Wick to strangle krili to death,why did you omit this part na
He killed them with what na and my point still stands,wick needs weapons to win his fight.

Their first encounter in the club came after Wick had already killed a dozen people, he then got shot in the chest and only survived because of the bullet proof, he was still struggling to orient himself before Kirill engaged him, got a few hits in before Wick reversed his position, held up Kirill against the rail bar about to choke him out before Kirill stabbed him in the abdomen with a bottle on the elevated table or so, Wick's hurt, Kirill throws him over and wick survives ...

and he lost because he had no weapons to aid him, another point proven

Ernest is a 7'4 killer who Wick killed with a book while injured, sounds to me that Wick made good use of his environment...
Ernest tried to cut Wick in his Shoulder region because Wick was more mobile, he had to fight to his strengths...

Ernest this,Ernest that,wick still had to use a weapon to win, another point proven

MJBOLT:

it's obvious you didn't go through the thread
https://www.nairaland.com/post/110469588

I put the link to the post there

AnfieldFan:


Can you show me a particular post that implied not even said Wick would kill the others with his tooth.

MJBOLT:

did he beat them with weapons or without it,no time for long thing??

MJBOLT:

In this scene Wick was bound and about to be killed then Marcus provided distraction for Wick to strangle krili to death,why did you omit this part na
He killed them with what na and my point still stands,wick needs weapons to win his fight.

MJBOLT:

and he lost because he had no weapons to aid him, another point proven

MJBOLT:

Ernest this,Ernest that,wick still had to use a weapon to win, another point proven

MJBOLT:

did he beat them with weapons or without it,no time for long thing??

In this scene Wick was bound and about to be killed then Marcus provided distraction for Wick to strangle krili to death,why did you omit this part na
He killed them with what na and my point still stands,wick needs weapons to win his fight.

and he lost because he had no weapons to aid him, another point proven

Ernest this,Ernest that,wick still had to use a weapon to win, another point proven

Reacher on the other hand struggled with two ex soldiers who he had every advantage over...
In the house assassination scene, a scrawny guy about 5'7 , 120 pounds almost killed Reacher with a crowbar...Reacher prepared for the fight, was healthy and still got beat, in fact, he was knocked out for a bit when inside that pool.
Reacher only survived because while being choked out, his gun was in the pool and he shot the guy from below...

MJBOLT:

I put the link to the post there