SideshowBob:
Who would you prefer? I choose Kante and Zidane cause of balance.

Verratti and Pirlo obviously, but why is pedri there instead of Busquets

airmark:


That's a very poor reportage, which deserves the trash can.

Ok, suit yourself, keep hyping your trash players.

izzou:
Where is chic2pimp sef?

Just saw the trending Russia and Ukraine news and I remembered him

FBS, you mean? He's been in my thoughts lately with all the recent news. I hope Baba is fine wherever he is. Things are starting to heat up on that side.

Imagine the bench

BlueMann:

Lols, is that tweet really from the man holding the helm at No. 10 Downing Street?

FBS getting ready to fight for Mother Russia

Kovacic and Ziyech’s injuries are ‘nothing serious’. They are both fine. Both picked up ‘impact’ injuries. Reece James and Hudson-Odoi are all set to return to team training today.

{Nathan Gissing}

A001:

Lols, is that tweet really from the man holding the helm at No. 10 Downing Street?

I don't think so sha

Emmynator:

Ok, suit yourself, keep hyping your trash players.

They are the world champions, you can knock your head on the wall if it pains you.

swiz123:
Looks like oblak was heading to the corner flag

lol..
this guy is so washed up it's crazy

Chelseabmw, let this thread reflect that we conquered the world.

Gabriel Agbonlahor: "As much as we look at Harry Maguire, he should be looking at defenders like Thiago Silva and should still be learning from these top, top defenders."

Ibime:


Simeone has £93m NetSpend in his 11 years, half of what point and kill managers will spend in 1 season. Not all fingers are equal.

If you think his players are good, it's because he made them so. Who knows Oblak, Mandava, Lodi, Vrsaljko, Gimenez, Herrera, Llorente or Savic (big Man City flop) if not for Simeone?

The attacking managers that were managing their mates like Valencia, Villarreal, Deportivo, where are they now? What that nigga has done is take an Everton level team and put them in your consiousness as a top team consistently for 11 years and you are busy criticising. Even managers don't stick around more than 3 or 4 years these days because players get tired of hearing their voice, so for a nigga to be winning league ten years later is laudable.

I don’t fancy simeone style of play and their gidigbo football

But trust me I agree with you about simeone .

Too bad he lost 2 champions league finals to Madrid

raumdeuter:


No one cares what you did some years back, football is about what you have done lately, That is why a Mourinho is at Roma nowadays Atletico will not be judged by where he met them 11yrs ago but where they should be right now. Na someone take take Barcelona from perennial UEFA cup team in the early 2000 to where they are one of Europe's elite, Na someone take Chelsea from midtable to one of Europe's elite, They have all continued to improve the team or left

Ferguson met Man Utd mid table when he first arrived, No one was expecting and telling him that Man utd should be midtable 15yrs into his reign. You think because Moyes met West Ham in lower half he would not be expected to take them above that?
LvG took Bayern from UEFA cup to CL final within a year the moment he fell to 3rd in the league he was fired, No one was considering what he did for them 9months earlier

When you consider that his current squad has the likes of Felix, Griezmann, Lemar are all big money signings, Valencia Villareal and Deportivo are not his mates, None of them are buying a Griezmann or Felix type of player at this point.

If Tuchel goes on a losing run for 1-2months he would be sacked regardless of where he took the club from or what he won since he took over
No one will give Tuchel a pass to finish 6th just because of where he took the team from or what laudable things he has won in this short time just like it was done for RdM

When the topic is Jorginho, Its you that will come and complain that no team plays defensive football to achieve anything, but when its Simeone now, Atletico should be content with fighting for 4th in La Liga and qualifying for CL knockouts with 7 points because of where he took them 11yrs ago

Simeone is one of the highest paid coaches in world football, So he is expected to be delivering like one all the time not just 7 or 5yrs ago

I think it’s only guardiola that’s earning more than Diego simeone at the moment

The UCL final will reportedly be moved from St. Petersburg.

BlueMann:
The UCL final will reportedly be moved from St. Petersburg.

That's even if they'll still be able to hold a UCL final by that time

BlueMann:

Is this photoshop?

I don't think Abrahmovic escapes a severe sanction. UK parliament pushing to rid him of ownership of Chelsea, freeze his funds and seize his home in London.
If he truly loves Chelsea, he will sell the club to a capable hand. If not, it's most likely our club will be plunged in financial jeopardy for the foreseeable future.

raumdeuter:


No one cares what you did some years back, football is about what you have done lately, That is why a Mourinho is at Roma nowadays Atletico will not be judged by where he met them 11yrs ago but where they should be right now. Na someone take take Barcelona from perennial UEFA cup team in the early 2000 to where they are one of Europe's elite, Na someone take Chelsea from midtable to one of Europe's elite, They have all continued to improve the team or left

Ferguson met Man Utd mid table when he first arrived, No one was expecting and telling him that Man utd should be midtable 15yrs into his reign. You think because Moyes met West Ham in lower half he would not be expected to take them above that?
LvG took Bayern from UEFA cup to CL final within a year the moment he fell to 3rd in the league he was fired, No one was considering what he did for them 9months earlier

When you consider that his current squad has the likes of Felix, Griezmann, Lemar are all big money signings, Valencia Villareal and Deportivo are not his mates, None of them are buying a Griezmann or Felix type of player at this point.

If Tuchel goes on a losing run for 1-2months he would be sacked regardless of where he took the club from or what he won since he took over
No one will give Tuchel a pass to finish 6th just because of where he took the team from or what laudable things he has won in this short time just like it was done for RdM

When the topic is Jorginho, Its you that will come and complain that no team plays defensive football to achieve anything, but when its Simeone now, Atletico should be content with fighting for 4th in La Liga and qualifying for CL knockouts with 7 points because of where he took them 11yrs ago

Simeone is one of the highest paid coaches in world football, So he is expected to be delivering like one all the time not just 7 or 5yrs ago

Stop arguing just for the sake of arguement.

10 years before Simeone, Atletico have never made top 3 in LA Liga. 10 years after Simeone, Atletico have NEVER finished outside top 3.

Consistency is the key world here.

2 LA Liga, 2 Europa, 2 UEFA Super Cup, 2 UCL finals, 1 Copa Del Rey, 1 Spanish Super Cup..... This is not a flash in the pan.

His consistency will make Atletico NOT to sack him even if he have a terrible season now.

No be everything be arguement.

timbros:


Stop arguing just for the sake of arguement.

10 years before Simeone, Atletico have never made top 3 in LA Liga. 10 years after Simeone, Atletico have NEVER finished outside top 3.

Consistency is the key world here.

2 LA Liga, 2 Europa, 2 UEFA Super Cup, 2 UCL finals, 1 Copa Del Rey, 1 Spanish Super Cup..... This is not a flash in the pan.

His consistency will make Atletico NOT to sack him even if he have a terrible season now.

No be everything be arguement.

They aren’t even thinking of sacking simeone

Even if he finishes outside the top 4

Which one be "denazification" of Ukraine?

How can Ukraine who lost eight million of its citizens fighting Nazis support Nazism? How could Zelensky be a Nazist, when he's Jewish?

Wetin Putin dey cap sef?

Kilishihunter:

That's even if they'll still be able to hold a UCL final by that time

Karleb:


Is this photoshop?

Yeah

donjazet:


This argument falls flat in the face once you consider amount spent and achievements.
I mean, we are talking about the current champions of Spain. It's not like it's been ages he last one something.
The other teams you mentioned like Chelsea, Barca, Bayern etc they all sack coaches because they expect a high level of performance considering resources available. Again, SIMEONE HAS NEVER FINISHED BELOW 3RD PLACE. In that same time frame, Chelsea have finished 10th, 5th position two times, 4th position 3 times.

For every star player that was signed, lots of star teams were sold; aguero, Torres, Costa, Felipe Luiz, Adam Turan, Diego Godin, juafran, Griezman and a lot more stars who left at their peak. Ibime has pointed out that simeone's net spend is 93 million. Compared to a bald fraud who has spent 1billion, Simeone is a miracle worker.
We have seen many teams fall off a cliff after building a new stadium. Eg, arsenal. But Simeone has maintained a high level of performance. He is currently 5th,very likely he still finishes 3rd or 4th.
He has been consistent.

Its the way football works.

Look at Dortmund before Klopp, look at how much he spent, and how much he won with Dortmund, the moment he took them midtable, he had to leave, No one was asking and considering where he took them from?

Even Wenger was let go despite where he took them from, having positive netspend vs his rivals, and building a stadium

raumdeuter:


Its the way football works.

Look at Dortmund before Klopp, look at how much he spent, and how much he won with Dortmund, the moment he took them midtable, he had to leave, No one was asking and considering where he took them from?

Even Wenger was let go despite where he took them from, having positive netspend vs his rivals, and building a stadium

Did Dortmund sack Klopp or he just decided to leave?

raumdeuter:


Its the way football works.

Look at Dortmund before Klopp, look at how much he spent, and how much he won with Dortmund, the moment he took them midtable, he had to leave, No one was asking and considering where he took them from?
Even Wenger was let go despite where he took them from, having positive netspend vs his rivals, and building a stadium

I don't understand your response. I think you've pivoted from the initial argument.
Someone said simeone is overrated, you agreed with the person, saying "defensive managers" cannot sustain their pattern long term.
Myself and Ibime chimed in to tell you that he is not overrated, seeing as he is currently the champion of Spain and has kept athletico competitive despite all odds. He is still on track to finish 3rd like he has done in the last 10 years and could still make the quarter finals of the UCL. I'd say he has very much sustained his success.
Athletico continue to punch above their weight. They just built a brand new stadium. They've consistently sold off their best players and brought in relatively unknowns. You can't denigrate him.
Again, this was your initial argument. Let's not derail from the main point.

airmark:


Did Dortmund sack Klopp or he just decided to leave?

Klopp decided to leave just like Wenger when they saw that their performance is not getting better, Not asking the club where they took them from, how much they spent