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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by firstratedcitiz(m): 8:20am On Mar 13, 2022
SarkinYarki:
The solution to all this is to allow Russia join NATO but then the aim of NATO will be defeated
That's correct. NATO is essentially an anti-Russia alliance. So Russia joining such an alliance will make its (NATO's) purposes to be meaningless.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by expert555: 8:21am On Mar 13, 2022
helinues:
How many countries can Russia fight at once?


Hitler tried fighting many and lost, this stupid mad man is today Hitler.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by akpunda86: 8:22am On Mar 13, 2022
chameleon98:
Russia says: "Don't join NATO!"

Russia does: <invades non-NATO member>

As they say, actions speak louder than words. Especially actions accompanied by explosions, death and dismemberment.


Can BIAFRA join NATO,cos BIAFRA is breaking away from Nigeria and we don't want to make the mistake of Ukraine.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by WarriAproko: 8:22am On Mar 13, 2022
Finland,sweden norway are smaller countries. Too easy to take them out. Were will the run to as refuge
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by ayindejimmy(m): 8:22am On Mar 13, 2022
Meninmen:


I don't know what you are saying. But just know that the US will never allow Russia join an organization they created to counter the same Russia.

That's your opinion.
I'm saying the fact.

It's not only the US that was against Russia, it was unanimously decided. They saw the future then.
Russia is now doing exactly what the members feared

Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Reference(m): 8:22am On Mar 13, 2022
Russia bia, I think that horse has bolted....
The era of threats is over.
What do you have to offer them that is better and more suited to their existence and way of life.... better than what the west has to offer.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by babyfaceafrica: 8:24am On Mar 13, 2022
checkolatunji:


Lolzzz. India News? Na Pro-Russia, what do you expect. grin
But you will believe CNN and BBC? What's the difference?

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by juddybrown(m): 8:24am On Mar 13, 2022
Finland and Sweden on the beats
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by pacesetting: 8:24am On Mar 13, 2022
anonymous1759:


He’s not ignorant. Aren’t their children not treating Africans like their father did ?
Nobody will respect you if you don't respect yourself first. There are blacks who are well respected by whites because they set the tone for that.

Africans get married to whites and live happily. So, it's not right to generalize your statement. What we are talking here is a single man (Putin) causing so much pain to the world.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by BadEnglish(m): 8:24am On Mar 13, 2022
Bennita911:
Russia should just join NATO
Russia is partially a part of NATO.
google the Russia-Nato alliance. even till this day NRC is still active in NATO
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by YoungBlackRico(m): 8:24am On Mar 13, 2022
Proflere:
really? He didn't even do anything to you. The people that invaded Africa and made Africans less human, killed so many of our promising leaders e g Lumumba and rendered our economy useless.. all of them didn't die miserable deaths oo. Russia never for once invade any African country and you think they are your enemy because they are enemy to the same people that looted your resources (the west)? Calm down nah.
This is 21st century oga...you calm down.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by YoungBlackRico(m): 8:27am On Mar 13, 2022
toobusy:
I don't understand this idea of telling a sovereign entity what to do and what not to do........ what's with Putin and this dictatorship?
As in ehn, in this modern world o. The thing just tire me.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by kollinz1234(m): 8:27am On Mar 13, 2022
boyfrank:
Putin should go back to history and check how the last invasion of Finland went.
pls can u gist us?
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by PoliteActivist: 8:31am On Mar 13, 2022
greymiles:

Stop reading controlled news
Listen to news like this
https://youtu.e/6XioN0Irg74

Do you know ANYBODY can post ANYTHING on YouTube? YouTube is not a good thing to cite unless it is just direct life.
* I didn't watch the video

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by seunayantokun(m): 8:33am On Mar 13, 2022
Why is Russia fretting like a greyhound suffering from an exceuciating skin disease? Several European neighbour countries are members of NATO yet there is no problem. France doesn't have problem about Germany's membership of NATO though they are world powers and neighbours. Why maddening about based on your self-inflicted mental instability which you like to see as an international political calculation? That's one of the dangers of dictatorship. A weakness it is. Putin is going down faster than imagined.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Reference(m): 8:34am On Mar 13, 2022
Alamkir:


But NATO won't allow it. because The secondary aim of nato is to destroy Russia

This is just plain lies.
NATO is entirely a defensive minded organisation.
The seeds of which were sown when the then Russia started a land grab after the collapse of Nazi Germany.
Thus meant forceful adoption of Communism which many states just did not want.

Today Communism is dead but the land grab remains Putin's lifelong ambition.
Yes, Russia was once enticed to join NATO but the big stumbling block was its weak democratic institutions.
NATO will never adopt a member state that is not fully democratic. That is why States like Poland were late to the party as they took a bit of time to settle.

NATO cannot afford to have a member state with a sit tight dictator as he will hijack the alliance for personal ambitions.
Russia should move towards democracy and it will be brought out of the cold, period.

The only time NATO has used offensive force in Europe was in the Balkan wars of the 90's when it had to protect the fledgling nations of Bosnia and Kosovo against the genocidal aggression of Serbia. It did that purely for humanitarian reasons. And the warlords responsible are well tucked away in prison having been judged by the ICC. All was done to International standards and best practices.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Nobody: 8:35am On Mar 13, 2022
ayindejimmy:


That's your opinion.
I'm saying the fact.

It's not only the US that was against Russia, it was unanimously decided. They saw the future then.
Russia is now doing exactly what the members feared

I said the US didn't want Russia to join Nato. And you said it was because Russia didn't meet the conditions. I then ask you which conditions did Russia not meet? You began blabbing. Then you brought up the issue of UK trying to prevent Soviet Union from breaking as the reason NATO did not allow Russia to join it (which doesn't even make any sense)

The reason Russia can't join Nato is because the US (and other NATO countries) will not allow Russia join the same organization that was formed to counter Russia. This has always been my point.

Why I emphasized only on the US was that the US basically controls NATO. If the US agrees for Russia to join Nato, Russia will join Nato. If however, other NATO countries agree for Russia to join Nato and the US doesn't agree, Russia will not join Nato.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Nobody: 8:39am On Mar 13, 2022
Jeromejnr:


Haba!!! Make una dey calm down with your lies and misinformation na...shuooo

How did U.S save Russia from Hitler when it was USSR that was responsible for winning the war against hitler?

Hollywood don too brainwash Africans sha...

Everything America America. How many wars has America fought and even won compared to countries like Russia?

Oga, without the lend lease program of the US that helped the Soviet Union, they would have lost the war.

Read what the former USSR leaders said.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Camelot65: 8:39am On Mar 13, 2022
WarriAproko:
Finland,sweden norway are smaller countries. Too easy to take them out. Were will the run to as refuge
You won't read abi?? Be calling them small countries grin grin Maybe you think it's only by having nuclear weapons.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Reference(m): 8:41am On Mar 13, 2022
ayindejimmy:


That's your opinion.
I'm saying the fact.

It's not only the US that was against Russia, it was unanimously decided. They saw the future then.
Russia is now doing exactly what the members feared

Thank you for that.
It attempted to join again some two decades ago if memory serves me right but again the problem was a fear of dictatorial hijack.
What people fail to realize is that though America is the strongest member of NATO it does not interfere in the running of member countries. All it does is encourage democracy and civil liberties amongst its members but it does not seek to hijack the institutions of members.

America has worked with difficult NATO members in the past. It never sees eye to eye with France for instance on most matters yet it never seeks to undermine their security.

Why can't Russia rid itself of dictators, become democratic and take its place around the table of that security alliance.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by sanpipita(m): 8:42am On Mar 13, 2022
vivaciousvivi:
Such an irony to find that the invasion of Ukraine is having a direct opposite effect to bordering Non NATO countries in the region.

They won't listen, their actions is making more nations join NATO

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by anonymous1759(m): 8:42am On Mar 13, 2022
pacesetting:
Nobody will respect you if you don't respect yourself first. There are blacks who are well respected by whites because they set the tone for that.

Africans get married to whites and live happily. So, it's not right to generalize your statement. What we are talking here is a single man (Putin) causing so much pain to the world.


Have you ever seen a European not to talk of African that’s opposing the west that’s liked ?
If you dance to their tone even if you’re a terrorist they’ll like you .

PUTIN is making the world a safer place . Making the world a multi polar system . PUTIN has exposed the west and her allies that they’re biased . The world is not safe with America and the west . Power should be shared for a stable world.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by PoliteActivist: 8:43am On Mar 13, 2022
Proflere Wpost=110988639:
really? He didn't even do anything to you. The people that invaded Africa and made Africans less human, killed so many of our promising leaders e g Lumumba and rendered our economy useless.. all of them didn't die miserable deaths oo. Russia never for once invade any African country and you think they are your enemy because they are enemy to the same people that looted your resources (the west)? Calm down nah.

He said PUTIN!!
When was the last time a US president
who is a dictator in power for 20 years unilaterally invaded a sovereign nation??

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Juventus4life: 8:43am On Mar 13, 2022
Stevenson1:


Russia can't afford another invasion anymore.
I don't think they have enough finance or human power for that anymore.
Also, sister countries are looking at what they are doing in Ukraine and they think NATO will be more desirable/ reliable than staying neutral cos staying neutral got Ukraine nowhere except annexation of their cities and towns by Russia.

You got it wrong homie.
Ukraine are not neutral hence the invasion. During negotiation between Ukraine and Russia one of Russia condition or demand is the neutrality of Ukraine.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by boyfrank: 8:44am On Mar 13, 2022
checkolatunji:


Russia can't afford any fight in another 10yrs with the way things are going. No financial power at their disposal for now and they are losing out on Ukraine invasion already. Putin won't want to toll that line again.
I believe it's initial gra gra

There armour have been exposed to US javelins with serious devastation. Even Turkish drones are destroying entire Russia tank columns.
They were actually being overrated.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Juventus4life: 8:45am On Mar 13, 2022
Bennita911:
Russia should just join NATO

Then the aim and objective of NATO is in limbo and somehow been jeopardize
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Dreamhighnow(m): 8:49am On Mar 13, 2022
Proflere:
really? He didn't even do anything to you. The people that invaded Africa and made Africans less human, killed so many of our promising leaders e g Lumumba and rendered our economy useless.. all of them didn't die miserable deaths oo. Russia never for once invade any African country and you think they are your enemy because they are enemy to the same people that looted your resources (the west)? Calm down nah.

Do you listen to yourself. Because Russia didn’t colonise anywhere now. Putin should start bullying the world and also threatening brimstones and nuclear weapon or you think this reasons are justifiable? Or you think if nuclear start raining, Africa won’t get hit?

Don’t let your hate for west blind you against the intake beast from Russia

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Reference(m): 8:54am On Mar 13, 2022
Meninmen:


Oga, without the lend lease program of the US that helped the Soviet Union, they would have lost the war.

Read what the former USSR leaders said.

Another misconception you have brought out that a lot of people in these parts fail to realise because they simply do not read.

At the time Hitler launched operation Barbarossa Stalin barely had a standing army, practically no means to fight and completely obsolete equipment.
Why. He had a non aggression pact with Germany. Satisfied that Germany will decimate the allies he waited to partner with Hitler to share the spoils. But when Hitler lost the war in North Africa in 1943 he tore up this agreement because he needed the petro resources only Russia had within reach so he attacked.
Stalin's quickly sent word to the United States for help and after lots of consideration and debate in Congress Teddy signed the aid pack to both Russia and later China to send them equipment which they deployed to buy time to manufacture theirs in massive numbers.

I was saying last week that it is exactly what is happening in Ukraine today.
If tomorrow by a miracle Ukraine is able to hold out and survive with all the gear supplied by NATO and Ukraine becomes a super power, folks back here will not remember history of how they were aided in many ways to survive.

Such is the nature of the history of the world. America's biggest headache today in the West remains France and France remains belligerent, intolerable and non condescending to America for one reason. They were the principal help to the United States in their war of independence from the British all those hundreds of years ago. Today the British are closer to America than France.... but France has seen their naked.ness.... and vise versa in the second world war.
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Fiscus105(m): 8:54am On Mar 13, 2022
SarkinYarki:

Most of you are just too gullible.... NATO was in reality founded to challenge USSR if you don't know ..Many Russians Presidents from Gorbachev to even Putin have made request to join NATO but have been denied by American Presidents



If you are not gaulibe, you read my response to the post before you came gragra to coment, you can still go back and read properly before jumping up and down
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Eagle6247: 8:55am On Mar 13, 2022
Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO March 10, 2014 A Russian official on Tuesday warned Finland against joining the European Union, a step that would leave the Nordic country isolated among the European Union member states Russia’s ambassador to Finland, Alexei Borodavkin, said NATO membership would be “the biggest threat to the Finnish national interest” if the country adopts the European Union’s common currency and a common foreign policy NATO allows its member states to have their own currencies, so long as they join the military alliance This month the Finnish government is expected to make a decision on whether to become a full member of the European Union or keep the European currency, the euro Borodavkin cited the need for monetary union as a reason to resist integration into NATO “It’s impossible to get the same result by just being part of the European Union
Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Johel(m): 9:01am On Mar 13, 2022
Thisis2raw:
Russia needs to calm down, before they make them self enemy of the world


"He who fights for truth is hated most bruh"....Putin knows what he's doing...The world is full of shit!!...can't you see!...This whole thing will bring about some kind of change...it will look all rough now,but in the end,there will be a global reform...These EU,UK,US are deceivers,liars,they are cunning,they made things so bleeped up in the world ....they made it so difficult to travel from even Naija to London.

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Re: Russian Official Warns Finland, Sweden Against Joining NATO by Reference(m): 9:03am On Mar 13, 2022
Meninmen:


I said the US didn't want Russia to join Nato. And you said it was because Russia didn't meet the conditions. I then ask you which conditions did Russia not meet? You began blabbing. Then you brought up the issue of UK trying to prevent Soviet Union from breaking as the reason NATO did not allow Russia to join it (which doesn't even make any sense)

The reason Russia can't join Nato is because the US (and other NATO countries) will not allow Russia join the same organization that was formed to counter Russia. This has always been my point.

Why I emphasized only on the US was that the US basically controls NATO. If the US agrees for Russia to join Nato, Russia will join Nato. If however, other NATO countries agree for Russia to join Nato and the US doesn't agree, Russia will not join Nato.


This is not true.
The principal criteria for joining NATO is that a member nation must be fully democratic, which Russia isn't.
These are excerpts:

'At the Madrid Summit, NATO invited Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic to begin accession talks with the Alliance. In the Summit Declaration, NATO also stated that "NATO remains open to new members under Article 10 of the North Atlantic Treaty . . . The Alliance expects to extend further invitations in coming years to nations willing and able to assume the responsibilities and obligations of membership, and as NATO determines that the inclusion of these nations would serve the overall political and strategic interests of the Alliance and that the inclusion would enhance overall European security and stability."
While there is no membership checklist for interested nations, NATO has made clear that candidates for membership must meet the following criteria. Interested nations must:

Uphold democracy, including tolerance for diversity;
Be progressing toward a market economy;
Have their military forces under firm civilian control;
Be good neighbors and respect the sovereignty of other nations; and
Work toward interoperability with NATO forces.
Again, while these criteria are essential, they do not constitute a checklist leading automatically to NATO membership.

New members must be invited by a consensus of current members.

Decisions to invite new members must take into account the required ratification process in the member states. In the case of the United States, decisions are made in consultation with Congress.

The key determinant for any invitation to new members is whether their admission to NATO will strengthen the Alliance and further the basic objective of NATO enlargement, which is to increase security and stability across Europe.'


Note the bolded.
Russia falls short.

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