donstan18:

“Health issues”

Baldness na health issue? Are you people serious at all? No be same show them dey yab Lebron?

nihilistjnr:


Like I said before, I do not agree that we don't have the right to be offended at comedy.

In a normal society like Yankee, it's not all talk that is tolerated under the law. You can talk some talk and go to jail for the talk.

This means there is a legal basis for acknowledging that the consequences of talk can go far beyond talk in response.

You can argue that men suppose dey comport in certain scenarios, but then that argument would be true in any other scenario like if someone hit your car, stole your funds, or fücked your girl.

But to argue that someone should comport because comedy should not cause offence is a laughable stance.

If your mouth wrote the check, your hand should be prepared to cash it.

If you are offended then you take a the case in court.
On these streets and in normal societies you dont throw punches anyhow, Anyone can insult anyone, the President of the US Trump was insulting anyone and taking insults from anyone. It will be different if a man tries to throw punches at him for that

All scenrios you painted, there is none that allows for physical punch, you can even end up bring guilty in the court after throwing the punch because that is the line a sane society draws

nihilistjnr:


Have you fought anybody in your life? Probably

Have you fought everybody that offended you? Obviously not.

So if your argument is that Will will have to pick his battles in future, that's kinda stating the obvious.

The real koko that came out the fracas yesterday is that comedians were put on notice that they cant take the right to offend without retaliation as a given.

Yes most people might je sara and choose to ignore. Yes the comedian might be tooled up and might be able to defend himself from his irate target....but now they have to weigh risk against reward. Because if a top rate talent like Chris Rock fit collect ontop Oscarstage, then anybody fit collect anywhere. Is it really worth throwing that inciting joke if you dont know how the nigga might respond?

Act accordingly.

Lol. Like I said he chose a soft target. Regina Hall and a random Trans broad said more egregious stuff and Will was there laughing like a donkey. Did his cape develop mechanical fault that he couldn't at least ask them to respect his wife?

Incidents like these na why I'm always sad when I remember Patrice O'Neal is no more. He will roast Will Smith there. Unless he kill everybody for that room Patrice O'Neal no go stop.

If you think small slap is going to stop comedians you're joking. You think if that was Ricky Gervais on stage he go stop?

What Will tried to do was a lame attempt at gaining some street credibility. Guess what. We look at Will even worse than we did yesterday

nihilistjnr:


Have you fought anybody in your life? Probably

Have you fought everybody that offended you? Obviously not.

So if your argument is that Will will have to pick his battles in future, that's kinda stating the obvious.

The real koko that came out the fracas yesterday is that comedians were put on notice that they cant take the right to offend without retaliation as a given.

Yes most people might je sara and choose to ignore. Yes the comedian might be tooled up and might be able to defend himself from his irate target....but now they have to weigh risk against reward. Because if a top rate talent like Chris Rock fit collect ontop Oscarstage, then anybody fit collect anywhere. Is it really worth throwing that inciting joke if you dont know how the nigga might respond?

Act accordingly.

No. He did to Chris Rock because

1. He felt he can overpower Chris Rock in a physical combat he wont do that to The Rock.
2. Chris Rock has a reputation to protect and he wouldnt want to fight physically, Also Rock wont act like a bittchh and press charges. He wont do that to a ghetto comedian looking for some celebrity to sue.


Watch from now how many people will tell more jokes of Will Smiths wife just hoping to get a reaction from him. Punch the wrong guy and he might be knocked out or sued for all his worth

A40:
Lol. Like I said he chose a soft target. Regina Hall and a random Trans broad said more egregious stuff and Will was there laughing like a donkey. Did his cape develop mechanical fault that he couldn't at least ask them to respect his wife?

Incidents like these na why I'm always sad when I remember Patrice O'Neal is no more. He will roast Will Smith there. Unless he kill everybody for that room Patrice O'Neal no go stop.

If you think small slap is going to stop comedians you're joking. You think if that was Ricky Gervais on stage he go stop?

What Will tried to do was a lame attempt at gaining some street credibility. Guess what. We look at Will even worse than we did yesterday

RIght now the best Smiths supporters are claiming it was scripted because of Oscar's falling ratings, No one will openly support a man throwing punches at Oscar. Especially a comedian who made a career out of telling jokes about people now getting offended because someone gave him back. When this no be Olamide and Don Jazzy. Those ones didnt even throw punches sef

raumdeuter:


If you are offended then you take a the case in court.
On these streets and in normal societies you dont throw punches anyhow, Anyone can insult anyone, the President of the US Trump was insulting anyone and taking insults from anyone. It will be different if a man tries to throw punches at him for that

All scenrios you painted, there is none that allows for physical punch, you can even end up bring guilty in the court after throwing the punch because that is the line a sane society draws

Can't believe people are defending this foolishness with a straight face. Obviously we know why sha. Because na black man.

There is absolutely nothing Chris Rock said that warrants that slap.

raumdeuter:


If you are offended then you take a the case in court.
On these streets and in normal societies you dont throw punches anyhow, Anyone can insult anyone, the President of the US Trump was insulting anyone and taking insults from anyone. It will be different if a man tries to throw punches at him for that

All scenrios you painted, there is none that allows for physical punch, you can even end up bring guilty in the court after throwing the punch because that is the line a sane society draws

Of course the law doesnt allow you to start throwing punches but the point I was making is that even in sane societies, there is no such thing as 'free speech'

raumdeuter:


In the normal society, you can talk shit and respond with shitt talk, i

If you talk certain shiiit, you dint have to wait for victim to sue you. Police will bundle you themselves. Dependeng on where and how widely your talk is picked up, you may lose your job and livelihood instantly.

So the argument that you can talk shittt in sane society should be prefaced by 'within limits'. You can just open mouth waaa and expect no consequence.

So if you know that even the government finds certain elements of talk unacceptable, then of course individual citizens will as well.

Whilst you cannot control how somebody reacts to what you say, and how they act afterwards...you can 100% control what you say, and thus whom you offend with your words.

If you say something, and you're counting on the other person not to take offence because you're a comedian , omo OYO l'owa o.

Yes Will Smith might get sued, but Chris Rock cannot be unslapped.

A40:
Baldness na health issue? Are you people serious at all? No be same show them dey yab Lebron?

Alopecia na health issues and because Lebron was “yabbed” and he laughed and ignored shouldn’t give anyone the entitlement mentality of thinking they are in the position to tell Will how to respond and react to such insensitive joke.

raumdeuter:


RIght now the best Smiths supporters are claiming it was scripted, No one will openly support a man throwing punches at Oscar. When this no be Olamide and Don Jazzy. Those ones didnt even throw punches sef

People will always defend nonsense. If na by that one Lebron and Kevin Durant should be in the streets beating up people cause nobody on this planet has been trolled about his hair loss than Lebron. There is nothing Chris Rock said that was remotely offensive. All I saw was a beaten and frustrated man looking for an outlet to vent his frustrations

How many men over 30 no dey deal with Alopecia. Close to 50%

nihilistjnr:


Of course the law doesnt allow you to start throwing punches but the point I was making is that even in sane societies, there is no such thing as 'free speech'


If you talk certain shiiit, you dint have to wait for victim to sue you. Police will bundle you themselves. Dependeng on where and how widely your talk is picked up, you may lose your job and livelihood instantly.

So the argument that you can talk shittt in sane society should be prefaced by 'within limits'. You can just open mouth waaa and expect no consequence.

So if you know that even the government finds certain elements of talk unacceptable, then of course individual citizens will as well.

Whilst you cannot control how somebody reacts to what you say, and how they act afterwards...you can 100% control what you say, and thus whom you offend with your words.

If you say something, and you're counting on the other person not to take offence because you're a comedian , omo OYO l'owa o.

Yes Will Smith might get sued, but Chris Rock cannot be unslapped.

If you talk shiitt beyond the limit of the law, the police will take you. Everything is still within the law, Not for a man to punch you for yabbing him

Like I said

raumdeuter:
I disagree. In the normal society, you can talk shit and respond with shitt talk, if it gets to you, then take them to court and sue them. There is no place for physical exchange of blows in the civilized setting

You can only get physical if a physical act of violence is being done to you or someone

donstan18:


Alopecia na health issues and because Lebron was “yabbed” and he laughed and ignored shouldn’t give anyone the entitlement mentality of thinking they are in the position to tell Will how to respond and react to such insensitive joke.

Leave story. Don't you people all call Dayokanu apari here. Would you be ok if he cussed all your ancestors in response?

Imagine pushing 50 and you're talmbout people should be sensitive to hair loss. You're aging. You're supposed to lose your hair genius! What next are we going to be offended about? Menopause?

nihilistjnr:


Like I said before, I do not agree that we don't have the right to be offended at comedy.

But to argue that someone should comport because comedy should not cause offence is a laughable stance.

If your mouth wrote the check, your hand should be prepared to cash it.

Na wa oh

Comedy is becoming a dangerous profession.

Only Terry Crews can do the job going forward.

A40:
Leave story. Don't you people all call Dayokanu apari here. Imagine pushing 50 and you're talmbout people should be sensitive to hair loss. You're aging. You're supposed to lose your hair genius! What next are we going to be offended about? Menopause?

This is the problem, because Dayo didn’t take offense or react, others shouldn’t when they are called Apari abi?

You don’t tell people how to react. You A40, will you overlook if you’re called Apari or other names?

raumdeuter:


No. He did to Chris Rock because

1. He felt he can overpower Chris Rock in a physical combat he wont do that to The Rock.
2. Chris Rock has a reputation to protect and he wouldnt want to fight physically, Also Rock wont act like a bittchh and press charges. He wont do that to a ghetto comedian looking for some celebrity to sue.


Watch from now how many people will tell more jokes of Will Smiths wife just hoping to get a reaction from him. Punch the wrong guy and he might be knocked out or sued for all his worth

Thats why I asked you first if you have never looked face before you fought.

Weight classes exist in combat sports for a reason. No be everybody one person go fit fight.

So if your argument was that Chris looked like a nigga he could beat, my response is 'DUH'.

If the rock had said it, maybe Will might have ignored or found another way to revenge. But where Chris fvcked up is that despite knowing he was a smaller specimen, he did not believe Will would take it ther, until Will gave him the Bianca special.

The thing that put Chris in danger was that erroneous belief that comedy no dey offend. That's the real fatal error. If Chris Rock had kept shut, he would be slap free this morning. And that's the real koko.

izzou:


But you were cool with it....

You laughed and then you discovered she was not happy, and then you switched to anger in one second

If he found it funny to laugh about, there was no point attack him there. It's either you console your wife that it was a joke (which Will participated in the laughing campaign), or you make the man apologize to her later.

But then... there's something about what Jada means to Will that we don't know about

Na Simp Mangina activity. His balls are in her purse

Ibime

donstan18:

This is the problem, because Dayo didn’t take offense or react, others shouldn’t when they are called Apari abi?

You don’t tell people how to react. You A40, will you overlook if you’re called Apari or other names?

There is such a thing as over retaliation bro. Your response to someone telling you to fvck off shouldn't be assault. They are not in your space neither are they a threat to you or your spouse.

Will Smith is a pussyol for doing it to someone he could do it too that couldn't retaliate. No one has monopoly of violence. Sensitive niggas like Will get killed in the streets. And the woman he wan die on top will move on after 6 weeks

A40:
There is such a thing as over retaliation bro. Your response to someone telling you to fvck off shouldn't be assault. They are not in your space neither are they a threat to you or your spouse.

Will Smith is a pussyol for doing it to someone he could do it too that couldn't retaliate. No one has monopoly of violence. Sensitive niggas like Will get killed in the streets. And the woman he wan die on top will move on after 6 weeks

Bold of you to think comedians who make insensitive jokes at people’s health issues can’t get slaughtered in the same street.

donstan18:

Remember, this is you twisting and spinning what engineered Will’s action, it’s and was never a fact that it was his wife’s reaction that made him punch Chris.

He laughed, possibly because he didn’t get the joke on time. We all can relate, we sometimes laugh even before we get jokes during events.

Now let’s say your “ASSUMPTION” is true, was it wrong of him reacting after it got his wife pissed?

Is he a zombie or toy soldier. Which kin explanation be this? If his immediate response was not anger then that shows you it was fake and contrived.

We have proof of this too cause he didn't react this way when Regina Hall and that Transwoman did worse. Not even a warning.

raumdeuter:


If you talk shiitt beyond the limit of the law, the police will take you. Everything is still within the law, Not for a man to punch you for yabbing him

Like I said



You can only get physical if a physical act of violence is being done to you or someone

Oya go an unslap Chris Rock na?

I'm talking about preventative actions but you're offering medicine after death.

Nobody said violence is good or commendable. However if you do pass yourself and you end up collecting because you thought you were safe as a comedian, the best that would happen is that people will say heya. The aggressor might even go to jail, but the harm would have been done already.

You cannot control how people react, but you can control what you say. That's my own point.

andrewbaba44:


Someone can bleep will smith wife and go Scott free but Chris joke is his breaking point

There are somethings a man just can't take.

donstan18:

Bold of you to think comedians who make insensitive jokes at people’s health issues can’t get slaughtered in the same street.

Good. It will be first to draw. Either way you're either going to jail or the morgue all because you're a sensitive nigga in your feelings. Fighting for a woman that will be on another man's eggplant before his body is cold in the coffin

Ibime:


Na wa oh

Comedy is becoming a dangerous profession.

Only Terry Crews can do the job going forward.

Even this one too don collect before

As he grab reach, TV execs dey grab him balls in public

raumdeuter:


He simply felt Chris Rock is a soft target which is the part that pisses me off

Chris Rock has a lot to lose too, That is why Smith wont pick on a man who has nothing to lose

Chris is an invitee to Hollywood, brought there to present every year and can't afford to fück up his yearly cheque. Will Smith can collect his networth from two films or one production for Netflix.

Will is part of the establishment, a studio owner and probably worked with, or given jobs to half the people in that audience.

The power disparity was too much, Chris gats humble himself

A40:
Is he a zombie or toy soldier. Which kin explanation be this? If he's immediate response was not anger then that shows you it was fake and contrived.

None of us saw him stand up!! We can’t say if he stood up because he noticed his wife was upset.

We are just assuming he did. And in the same spirit of assumption, I can say he didn’t get the joke before laughing but had to get upset when he got the joke. Sho get?

TeflonBlixx:
Ibime

Na lie oh. Wey the link? I no trust Twitter news

A40:
Good. It will be first to draw. Either way you're either going to jail or the morgue all because you're a sensitive nigga in your feelings

There’s no general way people should react when they get upset. Absolutely not.

Let’s wait for Will jail sentence then, since he’s not going to the morgue for now.

donstan18:

None of us saw him stand up!! We can’t say if he stood up because he noticed his wife was upset.

We are just assuming he did. And in the same spirit of assumption, I can say he didn’t get the joke before laughing but had to get upset when he got the joke. Sho get?

You have no argument bro. Is his wife's reaction the only barometer for response. Is he not a thinking man with agency? So are you the type of man to dances and bows to every expression of your wife? You don't apply judgement and discernment as the Man?

There was nothing wrong with the joke as worse ones were cracked about his wife the same night and he was laughing like a jackass

donstan18:

There’s no general way people should react when they get upset. Absolutely not.

Let’s wait for Will jail sentence then, since he’s not going to the morgue for now.

I hope you keep this same energy whenever you offend someone and they react in the same way. When someone hits your car. You pop your trunk take out spanner and break their head since there's no standard manner to react

nihilistjnr:


Thats why I asked you first if you have never looked face before you fought.

Weight classes exist in combat sports for a reason. No be everybody one person go fit fight.

So if your argument was that Chris looked like a nigga he could beat, my response is 'DUH'.

If the rock had said it, maybe Will might have ignored or found another way to revenge. But where Chris fvcked up is that despite knowing he was a smaller specimen, he did not believe Will would take it ther, until Will gave him the Bianca special.

The thing that put Chris in danger was that erroneous belief that comedy no dey offend. That's the real fatal error. If Chris Rock had kept shut, he would be slap free this morning. And that's the real koko.

Being able to beat someone does not guarantee you immunity from other means of retaliation. In the street you know that even if a guy is smaller than you, you still dont throw punches, Things that cannot be settle by punches get settled in other ways

As a black boy growing up in America, disses is part of life, you throw it and you throw back, Anytime you start throwing punches it doesnt end well

The only reason Will Smith will get away with this is that Chris Rock is an A-list who cares about his money at this point in his life, what he got away with a 57yr old Chris Rock he might have gotten away with the same Chris Rock in the hood at age 17.

donstan18:

There’s no general way people should react when they get upset. Absolutely not.

Let’s wait for Will jail sentence then, since he’s not going to the morgue for now.

He's not even going to Jail cos Chris declined to press charges. As e dey now Chris chop slap for free.
People will say Will should not have done it, but at the end of the day it's done and nothing will happen,

The logic that dayo and A40 and arguing is like advocating fighting with SARS officer. Yes police brutality is bad and condemnable, but will platitudes bring you back to life after dem waste you?

There is consequence for every action you're free to say or do whatever you feel like but remember that the recipient is also at his liberty to react too. Like in the West you dare not make a joke out of holocaust under the guise of comedy you will receive "slap".