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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 12:46am On Mar 30, 2022
BlueMann:
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Argentina didn’t win in 2006
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 12:48am On Mar 30, 2022
PDPGuy:

So, why didn’t a succession of northern military dictators revert to regionalism?

Why should they when they can just control the whole country? cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 12:53am On Mar 30, 2022
larride:


Why should they when they can just control the whole country? cheesy
You see, the whole “Ironsi abolished regionalism, which led to the collapse of Nigeria” is nothing but hypocrisy and a ruse to hide the general incompetence of Nigeria’s politicians since the 70s
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:56am On Mar 30, 2022
larride:


Well if people don’t come out and vote, then they have given their power to chose their leader into the hand of someone else who might not vote for who they want to.

Voters education is important. If vote doesn’t count, politicians won’t be trying to buy votes during election.

The truth is that no one person will wave a magic wand and everything will fall into place immediately but things can change if we elect reasonable people across board continuously. We can begin to see changes. Government is continuum, we must have a plan on the kind of leaders we want, what we expect from them and hold them accountable.

Votes do count and in 2023, we will have chance to elect those that will pilot the affairs of the country for another 4 years. Both for states and FG.

Starting from House of assembly members, house of reps, senators, governors and President, we must be intentional about who we vote for.

I want to come direct at you now.....in your church mind,do you think Tinubu is capable of ruling Nigeria health-wise,mental and ability wise with the rot we are in now....Baba,talk true....even that atiku that has been contesting elections since when I was not born sef....

I watched your party convention,na so so consensus and hand-picking candidates from godfathers...Then we vote person like OLUSOLA DESMOND ELLIOT(ODE) who we think he is one of the "good guys"and he is commissioning toilet and pako bridge,wtf!!!! Do you think I will still be motivated to queue,putting my life at risk to vote again ....on a norms,na person like Desmond suppose dey do that kain thing

Just to prove to Tinubu and oshomOLE that Edo no be Lagos,my people came out en-masse,defended their vote for that ugly baffoon called obaseki,the guy has been a failure ever since and not paying back the sacrifice people made....

Pls who are the reasonable people,if not the endless people who have been in power like forever,their aides, consensus candidates and godchildren who are willing to do their bidding...the bad system created by the leaders has swallowed the good guys who have vision for nigeria

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 1:01am On Mar 30, 2022
PDPGuy:

You see, the whole “Ironsi abolished regionalism, which led to the collapse of Nigeria” is nothing but hypocrisy and a ruse to hide the general incompetence of Nigeria’s politicians since the 70s

Nowhere in my post did I say Ironsi abolishing regionalism was what led to the collapse of Nigeria. You do not need to infer what is not there.

The context of that discussion was about how Ahmadu Bello was the one practicing tribalism and I pointed out that we were running a regional government then with which premier or leader of the region running a policy of “Our region” first.

Whether we will have progressed more than this if we are still running a regional system of government can only be based on assumptions and we will never know because Aguiyi Ironsi abolished the region and instituted a Unitary system of government.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:03am On Mar 30, 2022
PDPGuy:

So, why didn’t a succession of northern military dictators revert to regionalism?

I tire oooo ...APC as opposition were shouting state policing,dem enter there now,see say e go reduce their federal power,dem fem.....we no hear anything again...

Person go come tell me say our leaders no know wetin dem dey do and na followers fault for electing "wrongly"....Fashola statements about fixing light in 6months,osinbajo sweet talks nko but werey has been reduced to tradermoni sponsorer...abegiii

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 1:17am On Mar 30, 2022
Kloppo:


I want to come direct at you now.....in your church mind,do you think Tinubu is capable of ruling Nigeria health-wise,mental and ability wise with the rot we are in now....Baba,talk true....even that atiku that has been contesting elections since when I was not born sef....

I watched your party convention,na so so consensus and hand-picking candidates from godfathers...Then we vote OLUSOLA DESMOND ELLIOT(ODE) who we think he is one of the "good guys"and he is commissioning toilet and pako bridge,wtf!!!! Do you think I will still be motivated to vote....on a norms,na person like Desmond dey do that kain thing

Just to prove to Tinubu and oshomOLE that Edo no be Lagos,my people came out en-masse,defended their vote for that ugly baffoon called obaseki,the guy has been a failure ever since and not paying back the sacrifice people made....

Pls who are the reasonable people,if not the endless people who have been in power like forever,their aides, consensus candidates and godchildren who are willing to do their bidding...the bad system created by the leaders has swallowed the good guys who have vision for nigeria

1. Do I believe Tinubu will make a good President? Yes

2. Why? Because personally I feel a President needs to surround himself with competent people who can translate his vision into solid framework and implement it for the better for all. This I believe is Tinubu biggest strength, he’s a finder and builder of competent hands to put in position of authority. One of the major issue I have with Buhari is his lackadaisical attitude towards his appointees (Ministers and the likes).

3. Consensus is a valid means of electing leaders in internal party politics, even the electoral act make this very clear. But me personally I am against Consensus because I believe everyone should be allowed to test their popularity and canvass for the vote of fellow party members but the Governors in their usual ways hijacked everything to themselves. I know how much I stayed it during ward meetings that consensus will never bring the best among us to stand for election but those favored by the Governors/Elders of the parties who hold the structure.

4. I always believe everyone should be able to make their political choice and live with it. It makes no sense to spite your nose because of your mouth. Will Ize-iyamu be a better Governor than Obaseki? No one knows, most times we only use power of hindsight to judge which no one has when they are making these decisions.

5. If you want to change the system, you have to get into it and change it from within. You cannot change the system from outside. If you join a political party today, you will find that there are a lot of people who share your vision for a better country who just haven’t been able to get into leadership position, that’s why we must leverage our youth population to push the best of us into these positions and see if things will change.

I am a firm believer that Nigeria is still salvageable, it’s just going to require so much work with everyone putting their hands on deck to do.

Is it possible? Yes.

Will it happen? No one knows.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 1:23am On Mar 30, 2022
Kloppo:


I tire oooo ...APC as opposition were shouting state policing,dem enter there now,see say e go reduce their federal power,dem fem.....we no hear anything again...

Person go come tell me say our leaders no know wetin dem dey do and na followers fault for electing "wrongly"....Fashola statements about fixing light in 6months,osinbajo sweet talks nko but werey has been reduced to tradermoni sponsorer...abegiii


Till today we are still having debates about State Policing. I am a big advocate for State policing.

I think I had a conversation about this subject matter with ibime during the EndSars protest and he was adamantly against state police.

Every policy will come with its cons and pros and it must be considered very well before implemented.

ibi.me made mention of something then, can you trust these current crop of Governors with the absolute power of police? Knowing that these same Governors are owing salaries of their work force, what do you think will happen when they now added the police to their payroll?

Where will state police funding comes from?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 3:21am On Mar 30, 2022
larride:


Stop pontificating on what you don’t know about. The least you can do is to do small research before typing.

1. The stadium was renovated by DANGOTE. Sunday Dare the minister for sport was going around talking to corporate bodies to come renovate our sporting facilities. Dangote chose to renovate the MKO Abuja Stadium.

2. The match was supposed to hold in Lagos before CAF/FIFA refused saying that they can’t use VAR in Lagos stadium before the match was moved to the recently renovated stadium in Abuja and it was certified by both CAF/FIFA for the match to hold there.

I think u APC/BMC people have been specially trained to throw a few words here and there, make some submissions that look reasonable on the surface but when examined critically falls on its face.

1. I was asking why Nigeria has a 60,000 capacity stadium and it's not put In good shape which is a legitimate question to ask seeing the state of the pitch is one of the factors the players couldn't be at their best. Ask urself why did the pitch go bad in the first place? Is it not due to lack of proper maintenance?

You are busy telling me super story of how the minister for sports was shamelessly going about begging corporate entities to help put a face lit to government owned sporting facilities.smh

So it's pontification I'm asking the right question in the face of clear mismanagement?

2. So because FIFA approved a stadium due to the facilities there, our football administrators should not be reasonable enough to enusre the grass are levelled enough to aid the ball moving well on the pitch? Is it FIFA that will help them mow the grass to an equally even level after the grass was laid? Like we didn't watch Senegal vs Egypt and saw how the ball was moving smoothly on the pitch right?

I know u APC supporters would rather die than agree things are not being well managed in this country during this Buhari Era, but some us cannot help ourselves but say things how we see them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 5:49am On Mar 30, 2022
BlueRayDick:


I think u APC/BMC people have been specially trained to throw a few words here and there, make some submissions that look reasonable on the surface but when examined critically falls on its face.

1. I was asking why Nigeria has a 60,000 capacity stadium and it's not put In good shape which is a legitimate question to ask seeing the state of the pitch is one of the factors the players couldn't be at their best. Ask urself why did the pitch go bad in the first place? Is it not due to lack of proper maintenance?

You are busy telling me super story of how the minister for sports was shamelessly going about begging corporate entities to help put a face lit to government owned sporting facilities.smh

So it's pontification is asking the right question in the face of clear mismanagement?

2. So because FIFA approved a stadium due to the facilities there, our football administrators should not be reasonable enough to enusre the grass are levelled enough to aid the ball moving well on the pitch? Is it FIFA that will help them mow the grass to an equally even level after the grass was laid? Like we didn't watch Senegal vs Egypt and saw how the ball was moving smoothly on the pitch right?

I know u APC supporters would rather die than agree things are not being well managed in this country during this Buhari Era, but some us cannot help ourselves but say things how we see them.

Like I said before, stop pontificating on what you know nothing about. There’s no crime in actually sitting down and learning if you don’t know you are talking about.

You are asking why we have a stadium of 60k capacity and it’s not put to good shape which in itself is a lie because the stadium was renovated way before the World Cup qualifier was announced in January this year. It therefore makes no sense to type that they left it so late to renovate the stadium when information about how the stadium was renovated is in public domain.

This was your post I quoted:

BlueRayDick:


I think Nigeria is cursed ! How do we have a 60,000 capacity stadium and we don’t take care of it ?

This fixture has been announced since God knows when , instead make dem renovate since and put everything in order dem wait till dying minutes. I believe some bureaucratic bottlenecks would’ve led to this fire brigade approach ; now see where it has landed us .

My response to your post was very clear.

Now you can go back to screaming about how the country is cursed.

Good morning

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:18am On Mar 30, 2022
larride:


Like I said before, stop pontificating on what you know nothing about. There’s no crime in actually sitting down and learning if you don’t know you are talking about.

You are asking why we have a stadium of 60k capacity and it’s not put to good shape which in itself is a lie because the stadium was renovated way before the World Cup qualifier was announced in January this year. It therefore makes no sense to type that they left it so late to renovate the stadium when information about how the stadium was renovated is in public domain.

This was your post I quoted:



My response to your post was very clear.

Now you can go back to screaming about how the country is cursed.

Good morning

Typical APC/BMC zombie shii on display right here with a sprinkle of "On this Hill I will die " attitude.

The question is why do we have a 60,000 capacity stadium that the pitch keeps bubbling the ball here and there with players having to guess which side the ball will bounce to before kicking the ball?

You are here giving shalaye of January renovation..... A renovation that left the pitch in that sorry state....smh.

I hope u get paid well enough for these efforts tho.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:40am On Mar 30, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Typical APC/BMC zombie shii on display right here with a sprinkle of "On this Hill I will die " attitude.

The question is why do we have a 60,000 capacity stadium that the pitch keeps bubbling the ball here and there with players having to guess which side the ball will bounce to before kicking the ball?

You are here giving shalaye of January renovation..... A renovation that left the pitch in that sorry state....smh.

I hope u get paid well enough for these efforts tho.
Baba, you should do away with the cheap shots at Larri.de...

Make the debate interesting by being civil while it last...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:47am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
Baba, you should do away with the cheap shots at Larri.de...

Make the debate interesting by being civil while it last...

Me and who debate? Stop capping bro, I will pass

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:50am On Mar 30, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Me and who debate? Stop capping bro, I will pass
Okay, you can continue with your whatever...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:53am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
Okay, you can continue with your whatever...

Sorry to ask..

Was that pitch okay when you watched the match yesterday?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 7:00am On Mar 30, 2022
izzou:


Sorry to ask..

Was that pitch okay when you watched the match yesterday?
No it wasn't...

You can actually take Larri.de to the cleaners without throwing cheap shots at him...When one party is civil in a discussion or debate, the least the other party should do is to respect divergent opinions...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:08am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
No it wasn't...

You can actually take Larri.de to the cleaners without throwing cheap shots at him...When one party is civil in a discussion or debate, the least the other party should do is to respect divergent opinions...

I'm just interested in the bolded sir? Don't worry about the other paragraph

So who would you blame for that useless pitch last night?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:12am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
No it wasn't...

You can actually take Larri.de to the cleaners without throwing cheap shots at him...When one party is civil in a discussion or debate, the least the other party should do is to respect divergent opinions...

Is he telling me to quit pontification being civil?

Did he respect my opinion before quoting me when I didn't mention him?

At least we all go school and we pass English before we enter school.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 7:14am On Mar 30, 2022
larride:


The point is that it’s their region, he has the right to hire anyone they want just the same way the West and East has the right to hire anyone they like.

The interview was very clear. He was pursuing a Northernization policy for the Northern Region where all key post in the region are held by Northerners. He says if they can’t find a northerner to fill the post, they will hire white expatriate or other Nigerians on contract basis. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that policy since the remaining regions were also running a “Our region” policy.

None of anything you've said here makes sense or matches up to history.

If you listen to the man himself speak, there were only 10 northern civil servants in the North when he joined. With Igbo people taking the other roles on merit. So which retaliatory action was he taking? Amadu Bello himself was so concerned about how poorly qualified his people where that the man was actually campaigning and working against independence at the time

Secondly, The Federal Government predates independence by at least 6 years. Amadu Bello also made sure that federal government jobs in the North only went to Northerners. He's the one that brought Shari'a law to Nigerian constitution. He literally had such little interest in running a federated nation that despite being the head of the NPC in 1960, the biggest party in parliament at the time, he sent his number 2, Tafawa Balewa to be Prime Minister, whilst he remained the Premier of the Northern region.

So please don't tell me other regions were doing the same, when it's clear that Northerners weren't even equipped to compete in their own region.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TrebleChamp(m): 7:18am On Mar 30, 2022
donstan18:

Epistle helps expose people’s feelings.

We have 5 members here who are good with epistle.

1. One is based in UK and knows much about History.

2. One is based in UK and knows much about economics and financial issues.

3. One is based in Nigeria and wants Roman dead

4. One is a Barcelona fan who said you’ll be lynched if you campaign for Tinubu in SS and SE

5. One loves Fraudvertz.

You see those number 3 and 4?? Read their epistles well, you’ll just be seeing the effects of APC government.

The bolded cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 50d33q: 7:19am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
Baba, you should do away with the cheap shots at Larri.de...

Make the debate interesting by being civil while it last...
Why the sudden mouth piece of the devil
Is there anything wrong in what blueraydick typed?
You can ignore or counter it

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 7:34am On Mar 30, 2022
50d33q:

Why the sudden mouth piece of the devil
Is there anything wrong in what blueraydick typed?
You can ignore or counter it
La.rride said Dangote renovated the stadium in Lagos but due to issues surrounding the installation of VAR the match was moved to the National Stadium Abuja which was recently renovated. Whatever is the complain, I think CAF/FIFA inspected that pitch and gave the greenlight for the match to go on...

If the governing body of football thinks the pitch was okay irrespective of our individual takes then we have to question them...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 7:52am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
La.rride said Dangote renovated the stadium in Lagos but due to issues surrounding the installation of VAR the match was moved to the National Stadium Abuja which was recently renovated. Whatever is the complain, I think CAF/FIFA inspected that pitch and gave the greenlight for the match to go on...

If the governing body of football thinks the pitch was okay irrespective of our individual takes then we have to question them...

I'm sorry this is an incredibly lazy take.

Wetin concern FIFA or CAF with that length of grass on the pitch.

It was only a couple of weeks ago that Pep Guardiola was complaining about the grass at Crystal Palace which had been deliberately left a bit longer to impede City's passing game.

Nigerians questioning the grass at the Abuja stadium in a must win game, are not questioning the infrastructural integrity of the stadium - They are questioning the competency of an entire system that can't even take basic measures to boost their team's chances....basic measures like cutting the fucking grass

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Azurevermillion: 7:58am On Mar 30, 2022
Roland17:


Nigerians deserve their leaders, I no hide mouth talk am.
No one want to fight the turbulent times everyone want to ride it. embarassed embarassed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:42am On Mar 30, 2022
nihilistjnr:


I'm sorry this is an incredibly lazy take.

Wetin concern FIFA or CAF with that length of grass on the pitch.

It was only a couple of weeks ago that Pep Guardiola was complaining about the grass at Crystal Palace which had been deliberately left a bit longer to impede City's passing game.

Nigerians questioning the grass at the Abuja stadium in a must win game, are not questioning the infrastructural integrity of the stadium - They are questioning the competency of an entire system that can't even take basic measures to boost their team's chances....basic measures like cutting the fucking grass

Pep and Man City were away while we were at home.

If Palace decided to employ such crude tactics to disturb the smooth passing play of City then that's allowed but we on the other hand were at home, Eguavoen and the players have trained on that pitch and knew the condition before hand so, if they had a problem with the length of the grass, it would have be addressed...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:48am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
Pep and Man City were away while we were at home.

If Palace decided to employ such crude tactics to disturb the smooth passing play of City then that's allowed but we on the other hand were at home, Eguavoen and the players have trained on that pitch and knew the condition before hand so, if they had a problem with the length of the grass, it would have be addressed...


This is exactly the point that boys were making since last night

Ibime:


So Eguavoen when he trained these players on the pitch last night could not command they cut this pitch? You can never give responsibility to an illiterate

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:50am On Mar 30, 2022
patrickmuf:
Pep and Man City were away while we were at home.

If Palace decided to employ such crude tactics to disturb the smooth passing play of City then that's allowed but we on the other hand were at home, Eguavoen and the players have trained on that pitch and knew the condition before hand so, if they had a problem with the length of the grass, it would have be addressed...
Na here be the crux of the matter.

Maybe they thought they might sneak in a goal then it'll be difficult for Ghana to peg one back due to the nature of the pitch, but god of soccer get other ideas grin

But if that's true, then Eguavoen is a very very stupid coach. He didn't even have an away goal to secure things in case something unexpectedly happens(like Ghana scoring first) but he knew Nigeria's strength is always ground balls and most of our players are European-based.

Foolish coach!!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:53am On Mar 30, 2022
nihilistjnr:



This is exactly the point that boys were making since last night



I hold Eguavoen responsible for our failure to make the world cup...

Local coaches no be am especially for this country...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:54am On Mar 30, 2022
PDPGuy:

Argentina didn’t win in 2006
grin

lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:58am On Mar 30, 2022
Such a shame we haven't found a solution to this problem since Enyeama retired.

Ikeme was proving a capable replacement, but Leukemia happened.

Smh

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 9:09am On Mar 30, 2022
larride:


Well if people don’t come out and vote, then they have given their power to chose their leader into the hand of someone else who might not vote for who they want to.

Voters education is important. If vote doesn’t count, politicians won’t be trying to buy votes during election.

The truth is that no one person will wave a magic wand and everything will fall into place immediately but things can change if we elect reasonable people across board continuously. We can begin to see changes. Government is continuum, we must have a plan on the kind of leaders we want, what we expect from them and hold them accountable.

Votes do count and in 2023, we will have chance to elect those that will pilot the affairs of the country for another 4 years. Both for states and FG.

Starting from House of assembly members, house of reps, senators, governors and President, we must be intentional about who we vote for.
@ Your second paragraph, Vote surely does count but its mainly in the South that you will hear vote doesn't count. Yet politician are paying for their votes and alot of people are travelling to the North to vote. The Level of Voter apathy in the south is just unbelievable.

I just hope we get it right come 2023 and alot of us will vote for right for credible people instead of voting for party.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:04am On Mar 30, 2022
izzou:


I'm just interested in the bolded sir? Don't worry about the other paragraph

So who would you blame for that useless pitch last night?

Dangote

grin grin grin

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