Hello. It has been a while since I last posted. It is my sincere wish that you consider what I have to say.

I just want to use this post to admonish you atheists to consider the fact that your beliefs may be wrong.

If you aren't willing to be wrong you can never be right.

The Bible says, 'Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise.'

You see, there is a reason that belief in the spiritual precedes atheism by thousands of years and there is a reason that there are more that believe in the spiritual than there are that don't believe.

Also, it is more logical to believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing being that reigns above all than it is to not believe. You see, in all things there is a hierarchy. This is true in schools, businesses and all sectors of human endeavors. Even in the animal kingdom there is a hierarchy. There are those at the top of the food chain and there are those that are at the bottom of the food chain.

This also is true concerning the world at large. Man reigns above all the creatures of the Earth and God reigns above man.

Think about it, really think. If the spiritual was not real then why haven't all forsaken it? If prayers are not answered then why do people still pray? Even really prominent philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle believed in the spiritual. Isaac Newton believed in the spiritual and was in fact fascinated with and infatuated by Bible prophecies and miracles (you can google it).

The spiritual is very real and more real than you may think. It is true that there are people among us that our eyes cannot see. It is true that these same people run the affairs of this word and control the governing powers of this world.

Arguing about the existence of God is not a logical argument. God has made His existence clear through nature. Everything about nature is just screaming GOD! GOD!! GOD!!!. I mean just observe how the earth rotates like it was commanded to do so. Just observe the beautiful design of the human body and nature at large.

A more logical argument would be about which religion holds the correct views about God.

I advice you all to be like Thomas. You see Thomas wasn't with the rest of the disciples the first time that Jesus appeared to the disciples.

Joh 20:24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

You see, Thomas was an atheist of some sort. He demanded the same thing that today's atheists demand - EVIDENCE. But I am urging you to be like Thomas, not because of his demand for evidence but for the following reason:

Joh 20:26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!"
Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

You see, Thomas demanded evidence, but he didn't just write off the testimony of the other disciples like most atheists do today, but instead he stayed with them in the hopes that he would see what they saw and because he was with them, he indeed saw the Lord.

So my plea to you atheists is this: Don't just write off the beliefs of we who believe in the spiritual, but instead seek to understand why we believe what we believe. I encourage you to sincerely seek God out. He is not very far and if you seek Him diligently and with your whole heart, you'll indeed find Him.

I implore you to be like Thomas. Spend time with believers, observe them, learn from them, read the Bible with an learners mind and not with a critical mind.

I am encouraging and challenging you to devote one whole year to finding out whether God is real or not. Fast, pray, study the Bible every day for one year. Ask God to reveal Himself to you and He will. Talk to God and He will talk back to you.

This is the most important decision you could ever make, because where you'll spend eternity depends on it. Most atheists who are in hell today are full of regret and that regret is contributing towards making their stay in hell even more painful, because they had a chance to choose and they chose wrongly.

Please don't just follow the crowd. Seek to know the truth for yourselves.

God Bless you!!!

Leave us alone.

Do you think an atheist hasn't thought all of this gibberish you put up there through?

I should spend one year to find out whether god is real or not, am I that jobless and useless?

He should step out of the shroud of secrecy and show himself.


Show me incontrovertible facts and proofs of your gods existence and I wont have to believe in his existing but agree and accept his existence.

Belief comes into play when there's lack of evidence, belief is a mere play on the emotions.

How does it make sense believing in an all powerful and knowing God when all those attributes do not actually exist and can't reside in one being?

finally, if truly the god depicted in the bible as yhwh or Jehovah truly exists, I can't be forced to follow him because the character has some of the greatest personality flaws ever. Egotistical, ill tempered, deceptive, wicked, evil, psychotic sadist, these are some of the attributes exhibited by the Christian god and I'd rather not associate with such a person.

If truly there's a god hidden somewhere and he has been very unconcerned about the plight of the downtrodden, the poor, humans in war torn areas, I have no business with him and he should be the one actually seeking my forgiveness.

Hismasterpiece:


The Bible says, 'Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise.'

Religion is built on two principles:
1. Deceiving the vulgar
2. Cultivating ignorance

The quote above is an example of number 2. The naked appeal to ignorance and denoting reason as foolishness is the signature of the duplicitous scoundrels who wrote the words, “God said”.
I don’t need to be a fool or hold nonsense as sacred because skepticism is the beginning of wisdom.

mariovito:
Leave us alone.

Do you think an atheist hasn't thought all of this gibberish you put up there through?

I should spend one year to find out whether god is real or not, am I that jobless and useless?

He should step out of the shroud of secrecy and show himself.


Show me incontrovertible facts and proofs of your gods existence and I wont have to believe in his existing but agree and accept his existence.

Belief comes into play when there's lack of evidence, belief is a mere play on the emotions.

How does it make sense believing in an all powerful and knowing God when all those attributes do not actually exist and can't reside in one being?

finally, if truly the god depicted in the bible as yhwh or Jehovah truly exists, I can't be forced to follow him because the character has some of the greatest personality flaws ever. Egotistical, ill tempered, deceptive, wicked, evil, psychotic sadist, these are some of the attributes exhibited by the Christian god and I'd rather not associate with such a person.

If truly there's a god hidden somewhere and he has been very unconcerned about the plight of the downtrodden, the poor, humans in war torn areas, I have no business with him and he should be the one actually seeking my forgiveness.

God does know the plight of mankind and has answered it by addressing the root of said plight by sending a savior to die for our sins.

The reason for all the suffering being experienced in the world is sin and God has addressed this problem. Now it is left to the world to accept what Christ has accomplished on their behalf through faith.

I honestly hope you reconsider my advice. Hell is the worst place in the world to finally accept that God exists because at that point it is already too late.

Its insensitive of you to insinuate that the reason for suffering around the world is because the suffering people have not accepted your saviour.

What then do you have to say about countries and places that do not acknowledge your saviour and yet are thriving, places like China, Russia, Qatar UAE to mention a few.

The reason for the worlds suffering is sin, whose sin?
Are you aware that sin is subjective and not universal?

If I don't subscribe to your religion, I can't be termed a sinner if I do not follow your laws because I'm not privy to it, I'm not a party to it. Can I be said to be guilty of breaking the rules of a club that I'm not a member of?

Finally, you end your comment with the old trick in the book; threaten those who don't believe in your fables with fire of hell.
Be reasonable please, I do not believe in your Christ and bible and you think I believe and would be scared by your imaginary hell?

You still haven't said anything about the lack of proof for the existence of your yhwh.BIM

Hismasterpiece:


God does know the plight of mankind and has answered it by addressing the root of said plight by sending a savior to die for our sins.

The reason for all the suffering being experienced in the world is sin and God has addressed this problem. Now it is left to the world to accept what Christ has accomplished on their behalf through faith.

I honestly hope you reconsider my advice. Hell is the worst place in the world to finally accept that God exists because at that point it is already too late.

mariovito:
Its insensitive of you to insinuate that the reason for suffering around the world is because the suffering people have not accepted your saviour.

What then do you have to say about countries and places that do not acknowledge your saviour and yet are thriving, places like China, Russia, Qatar UAE to mention a few.

The reason for the worlds suffering is sin, whose sin?
Are you aware that sin is subjective and not universal?

If I don't subscribe to your religion, I can't be termed a sinner if I do not follow your laws because I'm not privy to it, I'm not a party to it. Can I be said to be guilty of breaking the rules of a club that I'm not a member of?

Finally, you end your comment with the old trick in the book; threaten those who don't believe in your fables with fire of hell.
Be reasonable please, I do not believe in your Christ and bible and you think I believe and would be scared by your imaginary hell?

You still haven't said anything about the lack of proof for the existence of your yhwh.BIM

Please i implore you to watch these videos with an open mind. It contains one man's testimony of his experience visiting hell and seeing Jesus. I implore you to consider the fact that this man could be telling the truth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLimoqZUWgw&ab_channel=TheLifeAfterDeath100


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0VOx4M5ZE&ab_channel=TheLifeAfterDeath100

Lord Vishnu saves!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68MmcQR-Smc

KnownUnknown:


Religion is built on two principles:
1. Deceiving the vulgar
2. Cultivating ignorance

The quote above is an example of number 2. The naked appeal to ignorance and denoting reason as foolishness is the signature of the duplicitous scoundrels who wrote the words, “God said”.
I don’t need to be a fool or hold nonsense as sacred because skepticism is the beginning of wisdom.

Bro I advice you to approach skepticism with skepticism and consider the fact that you may indeed be wrong and seek to know the truth for yourself.

I saw Lord Ganesha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyzZhKwN2P0

I saw Mohammed marry a child.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytibBZNktRE

Hismasterpiece:


Bro I advice you to approach skepticism with skepticism and consider the fact that you may indeed be wrong and seek to know the truth for yourself.

I know nothing but I have a cogent grasp of the “truth” and your faith has nothing to do with truth.

The most amazing thing in la la land.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV32JR0Ek7w

KnownUnknown:


I know nothing but I have a cogent grasp of the “truth” and your faith has nothing to do with truth.

And how do you know? Have you been a devoted Christian before? Have you ever read the Bible from cover to cover? Have you obeyed what the Bible says?

Hismasterpiece:


And how do you know?

Because I read critically and can think critically.

Hismasterpiece:

Have you been a devoted Christian before? Have you ever read the Bible from cover to cover? Have you obeyed what the Bible says?

No, I have never been devoted to ignorance. I was unfortunately brought up in the nonsense but I’m a little too incredulous to believe the fairy tale of the Hebrews is somehow different from every other culture’s tales. The god if the Hebrews isn’t more real to me than the god of the Greeks, or Igbos, or Hausas regardless if the tales are written in a book or passed on verbally.
I don’t need to read the Bible from cover to cover just like I don’t need to read the Koran from cover to cover. I know enough of what’s in both not to waste time reading the whole thing from cover to cover. Obeying the Bible is a recipe for disaster given all the nonsense it entails. Obeying the Bible is at the root of bigotry in Christian societies because there is always a passage where their god approves of whatever they are doing, good or bad.

The scriptures are allegorical and the gods are mythical.

Are you kidding me or you're being for real?

A man wakes up and recounts his purported visit to hell and seeing Jesus. Other than his word of mouth, what other proof does he have to support his claims? As if we don't already have enough sisters and brothers here in Nigeria that have their own hell stories to tell.

Where in the galaxy is this hell located?

I want you to please consider the fact that this man is lying. He didn't go to no hell because hell doesn't exist in the biblical or Qur'anic sense.

Please I have a question for you and I want your honest answer.

With the little history and knowledge you have and from your observation of Europeans, do you think that if the Europeans have access to or discover a good thing, do you think they'll freely give it to Africans?

Hismasterpiece:


Please i implore you to watch these videos with an open mind. It contains one man's testimony of his experience visiting hell and seeing Jesus. I implore you to consider the fact that this man could be telling the truth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLimoqZUWgw&ab_channel=TheLifeAfterDeath100


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0VOx4M5ZE&ab_channel=TheLifeAfterDeath100

For your information, I was once an SU member, was a bible study teacher. There's not much you can tell me about the Bible.

Hismasterpiece:


And how do you know? Have you been a devoted Christian before? Have you ever read the Bible from cover to cover? Have you obeyed what the Bible says?

Hismasterpiece:

Please don't just follow the crowd. Seek to know the truth for yourselves.

God Bless you!!!

We can all see that you attracted to these people and have fallen finally for "I hate Godism". And you are very doing well in their area of expertise, which is the art of lying to yourself.

You are like a man who is in the bed of a brothel telling the prostitute you pick up "please don't Bleep me" while you are being stroked.

mariovito:

Where in the galaxy is this hell located?

Now you think you have asked a reasonable question. Even right here on earth, people have confirmed the experience of hell, is it now the hell, A Creator keeps for His creations which have displeased Him?

mariovito:

He should step out of the shroud of secrecy and show himself.

Imagine. Your mannequin in your warehouse is commanding you to show yourself. And then you would answer it.

Oya, lie!

Even to your fellow co-creations, slightly higher in age than you, you are respectful, is it now He greater than you, you would disrespect?

Your co creation will kill you immediately if and when you disrespect them, but because He is Silent and too patient, you continue to insult Him?

O Lord let your day of Anger Come soonest

mariovito:

Show me incontrovertible facts and proofs of your gods existence and I wont have to believe in his existing but agree and accept his existence.

Did a mannequin make itself or does a House build itself?

You do not need believe, just your natural eyes.

mariovito:

I can't be forced to follow him because the character has some of the greatest personality flaws ever. Egotistical, ill tempered, deceptive, wicked, evil, psychotic sadist, these are some of the attributes exhibited by the Christian god and I'd rather not associate with such a person.

If truly there's a god hidden somewhere and he has been very unconcerned about the plight of the downtrodden, the poor, humans in war torn areas, I have no business with him and he should be the one actually seeking my forgiveness.

Even before now, did God talk or push you that you can say He forced you?

Is it not rather that He has stayed in His Own Place yet, it is you who have left your place to start insulting and abusing Him?

You called Him "ill tempered" yet, He has not yet visited you to pour His Temper on you. Is an ill tempered person ever patient and long suffering?

You call Him despicable things when all He had ever done was Good Things with the best being Warning you that 'you are in a bad place get out from there" but you did not listen but said you would manage it like that.

He Warned that it would get worse but you said you don't care.

But now that it is worse as He had Warned, now you insult Him.

I therefore Curse you, in His Name and by His Authority that Goodness shall never enter your hands, your suffering shall increase from day to day, and you would know no joy only pain, until the day of His Anger.

Ehehehehe!

all these brainwashed yeye simpletons... and their devilish cult!

Hismasterpiece:
Hello. It has been a while since I last posted. It is my sincere wish that you consider what I have to say.

I just want to use this post to admonish you atheists to consider the fact that your beliefs may be wrong.

If you aren't willing to be wrong you can never be right.

The Bible says, 'Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise.'

You see, there is a reason that belief in the spiritual precedes atheism by thousands of years and there is a reason that there are more that believe in the spiritual than there are that don't believe.

Also, it is more logical to believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing being that reigns above all than it is to not believe. You see, in all things there is a hierarchy. This is true in schools, businesses and all sectors of human endeavors. Even in the animal kingdom there is a hierarchy. There are those at the top of the food chain and there are those that are at the bottom of the food chain.

This also is true concerning the world at large. Man reigns above all the creatures of the Earth and God reigns above man.

Think about it, really think. If the spiritual was not real then why haven't all forsaken it? If prayers are not answered then why do people still pray? Even really prominent philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle believed in the spiritual. Isaac Newton believed in the spiritual and was in fact fascinated with and infatuated by Bible prophecies and miracles (you can google it).

The spiritual is very real and more real than you may think. It is true that there are people among us that our eyes cannot see. It is true that these same people run the affairs of this word and control the governing powers of this world.

Arguing about the existence of God is not a logical argument. God has made His existence clear through nature. Everything about nature is just screaming GOD! GOD!! GOD!!!. I mean just observe how the earth rotates like it was commanded to do so. Just observe the beautiful design of the human body and nature at large.

A more logical argument would be about which religion holds the correct views about God.

I advice you all to be like Thomas. You see Thomas wasn't with the rest of the disciples the first time that Jesus appeared to the disciples.

Joh 20:24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

You see, Thomas was an atheist of some sort. He demanded the same thing that today's atheists demand - EVIDENCE. But I am urging you to be like Thomas, not because of his demand for evidence but for the following reason:

Joh 20:26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!"
Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

You see, Thomas demanded evidence, but he didn't just write off the testimony of the other disciples like most atheists do today, but instead he stayed with them in the hopes that he would see what they saw and because he was with them, he indeed saw the Lord.

So my plea to you atheists is this: Don't just write off the beliefs of we who believe in the spiritual, but instead seek to understand why we believe what we believe. I encourage you to sincerely seek God out. He is not very far and if you seek Him diligently and with your whole heart, you'll indeed find Him.

I implore you to be like Thomas. Spend time with believers, observe them, learn from them, read the Bible with an learners mind and not with a critical mind.

I am encouraging and challenging you to devote one whole year to finding out whether God is real or not. Fast, pray, study the Bible every day for one year. Ask God to reveal Himself to you and He will. Talk to God and He will talk back to you.

This is the most important decision you could ever make, because where you'll spend eternity depends on it. Most atheists who are in hell today are full of regret and that regret is contributing towards making their stay in hell even more painful, because they had a chance to choose and they chose wrongly.

Please don't just follow the crowd. Seek to know the truth for yourselves.

God Bless you!!!

John 6: 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

How on earth did you call Thomas an atheist?

There is really no much difference between those who claim to believe in the Creator or acknowledge his existence but do not obey his Commandments and the aheists.

elated177:



John 6: 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

How on earth did you call Thomas an atheist?

i didn't say that he was an atheist... I said that he demanded the same thing that atheists today demand - EVIDENCE

Most of the guys who call themselves atheists here fall into three categories.

1: The damaged ones: These ones were damaged in one way or the other by their former spiritual fathers/mothers. Some of them were sexually abused. It will surprise you to know that many in this category still go to their "church". They only come here and give vent to their anger, trauma, bitterness, frustration, disappointment, etc, because it is a faceless forum. They have been so emasculated that they dare not utter any of what they say here out there. What they have is hatred for their Maker. This hatred stemmed from the abuse they suffered at the hands of evil men and women who parade themselves as the agents of light, but who are indeed agents of darkness.

2: The unconscious agents of wickedness: These one have demons in them and are not aware of it. Out there, they may even go to their "churches". This is the only place where they can act out freely. Most of them dare not utter an iota of what they say here out there.

3: The satanic/demonic agents: These are the conscious satanic/demonic agents. They are agents of darkness/wickedness. Their aim is to steer people away from the path of righteousness and lure them into darkness. They know what they are doing. They know that the Creator exists. They are conscious of their relationship with their father and master, the devil or Satan. Many of them have successfully lured some unstable and unwary "believers" into sinful lifestyles, especially sexual immorality. Their confidence stems from this. Their claim of atheism is a facade. They want you to let your guard down and give them to opportunity to strike. Typical serpentine tactic.

So, when one looks at it critically, there isn't really an atheist on nairaland.

Just to be brief.

Dtruthspeaker:


We can all see that you attracted to these people and have fallen finally for "I hate Godism". And you are very doing well in their area of expertise, which is the art of lying to yourself.

You are like a man who is in the bed of a brothel telling the prostitute you pick up "please don't Bleep me" while you are being stroked.

Lol.. what in the world are you talking about? I'm not understanding

mariovito:
For your information, I was once an SU member, was a bible study teacher. There's not much you can tell me about the Bible.

So why did you decide to become an atheist?

Hismasterpiece:


i didn't say that he was an atheist... I said that he demanded the same thing that atheists today demand - EVIDENCE

But you did. You said he was some sort of atheist.

mariovito:
Are you kidding me or you're being for real?

A man wakes up and recounts his purported visit to hell and seeing Jesus. Other than his word of mouth, what other proof does he have to support his claims? As if we don't already have enough sisters and brothers here in Nigeria that have their own hell stories to tell.

Where in the galaxy is this hell located?

I want you to please consider the fact that this man is lying. He didn't go to no hell because hell doesn't exist in the biblical or Qur'anic sense.

Please I have a question for you and I want your honest answer.

With the little history and knowledge you have and from your observation of Europeans, do you think that if the Europeans have access to or discover a good thing, do you think they'll freely give it to Africans?

So you're saying the man is a liar? Remember, the man was an atheist when he had the experience. As for the evidence of his claims, there are enough scriptures in the Bible to back them up.

As for the second bolded they gave us the Gospel didn't they? Isn't it the missionaries that stopped the killing of twins? Isn't it the missionaries that built schools for us and gave us education? Isn't it the white man that gave us democracy? Which universities are leading education in Nigeria? Is it not schools established by religious folk?

Bro the white man is not your enemy.

In this world where there is constant warfare between the forces of good/light/righteousness and the forces of evil/darkness/unrighteousness, someone will want us to believe that he/she is an atheist!

All the things happening around us are a reflection of the spiritual --- 100%.

KnownUnknown:


Because I read critically and can think critically.



No, I have never been devoted to ignorance. I was unfortunately brought up in the nonsense but I’m a little too incredulous to believe the fairy tale of the Hebrews is somehow different from every other culture’s tales. The god if the Hebrews isn’t more real to me than the god of the Greeks, or Igbos, or Hausas regardless if the tales are written in a book or passed on verbally.
I don’t need to read the Bible from cover to cover just like I don’t need to read the Koran from cover to cover. I know enough of what’s in both not to waste time reading the whole thing from cover to cover. Obeying the Bible is a recipe for disaster given all the nonsense it entails. Obeying the Bible is at the root of bigotry in Christian societies because there is always a passage where their god approves of whatever they are doing, good or bad.

The scriptures are allegorical and the gods are mythical.

Everything you just said here is false.

So because the man was atheist when had purportedly had the experience automatically makes him true and correct? Sheesh.

You see where religious folks always miss me, I'm telling you that I'm not convinced by a book you brought, that the book was doctored, yet you're referring to same book as proof of your claim. Damn it!

Now, go back and read my last question that you bolded and answered, there's a salient word there ....freely.... Oyibo will never give you anything freely.

At what price did they give us those things you claimed they gave us?

Firstly, most of Eastern Nigeria which is the part I come from was already an acephalous democratic society, so oyibo didn't give us democracy.

You speak of them giving us the gospel, of what use was that to us if not for proper colonisation, enslavement and plundering of our resources.

If oyibo has anything good, my guy, they won't give it to you a black man freely, they'll keep it to themselves. Look at how they have been treating people of colour and blacks in their countries, do you think if these same people have the knowledge and access to a heaven, do you think they'll give it to you a Blackman?

You speak of them giving us education, an education that has not been able to really serve our purpose? An education that teaches you from a European perspective?


Lastly, I want you to conduct your own research into how the church and Christianity came about. For clues, I'll refer you to read about Emperor Constantine, the Council of Nicea. Do that and get back to me.

Incase you are not aware, religion, Christianity and Islam were both tools of world domination.

Hismasterpiece:


So you're saying the man is a liar? Remember, the man was an atheist when he had the experience. As for the evidence of his claims, there are enough scriptures in the Bible to back them up.

As for the second bolded they gave us the Gospel didn't they? Isn't it the missionaries that stopped the killing of twins? Isn't it the missionaries that built schools for us and gave us education? Isn't it the white man that gave us democracy? Which universities are leading education in Nigeria? Is it not schools established by religious folk?

Bro the white man is not your enemy.