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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by kechywillz(m): 5:57pm On Apr 26, 2022
LeoDeKing:
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President of which obodo?

Zoo or biafuro?
President of our one Nigeria

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by LeoDeKing: 5:59pm On Apr 26, 2022
kechywillz:

President of one Nigeria
Then obi or Emeka is out of it.

Though you fit dey Alaigbo dey wyne yourself sha. grin
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by kechywillz(m): 6:03pm On Apr 26, 2022
LeoDeKing:

Then obi or Emeka is out of it.

Though you fit dey Alaigbo dey wyne yourself sha. grin
Obi and Emekas passport and voters cards carries Nigerias coat of arm

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by LeoDeKing: 6:04pm On Apr 26, 2022
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kechywillz:

Obi and Emekas passport and voters cards carries Nigerias coat of arm
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That's their business.
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by kechywillz(m): 6:06pm On Apr 26, 2022
LeoDeKing:
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That's their business.
Na ur problem be dat
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by teepain: 6:31pm On Apr 26, 2022
Diligence:
If 2023 election is about the next generation, why don't you consider giving Mr Peter Obi the opportunity to revive the economy.

Na play na play, 4 to 8 years go just go; graduates are churned out, more children are born, more dreams should be realised.

You know Mr Peter Obi will not steal. He will lead others to save billions of dollars from being wasted in the name of budget padding...

He has the blueprint already...2023 should be about the economy. Take care of the economy, give youths jobs, then banditry, terrorism, other vices won't be attractive...

Nigerians: This is our chance! Let every tribe, tongue, religion, group, body support Mr Peter Obi. You know he is the man for the job...

I applaud you for the sane way that you just marketed your candidate. I wish a lot more people would learn from you instead of being abusive, selling the candidature of one's preferred candidate requires advocacy and persuasion; not being abusive to other people and their candidates.

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Lovelive: 7:02pm On Apr 26, 2022
Rastaramsey:
Afenifere omo nah baller grin grin grin
Na olamide dey talk am grin grin

Igbo president is what Nigeria need right now

BUT

Not from APC


*Modified: I must never be tempted to vote anything APC (Association of Professional Criminals), the evil and the cursed Party.
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Heavensent01(m): 7:35pm On Apr 26, 2022
Proudlyomonna:

Okay I heard you talkative grin grin Can you now respond to this thread? Who is your preferred choice for presidency. Abi na only to dey shout Igbo dis, Igbo dat you sabi do??��

everyone know is your nemesis now Jagaban
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by otipoju(m): 9:02pm On Apr 26, 2022
Deadlytruth:


Neither am I Yoruba, hence making you even guiltier of the hasty generalization you accused me of.

How come the Obasanjo and Yaradua whom you argue Igbos' voted for because of competence both left Nigeria worse than they met it? The two major indicies of measuring the competence of a government are security and Economic growth.
Obasanjo met Dollar at N20 but after his eight years the Dollar was at N120....a 500% increase. On security, Obasanjo inherited only OPC from Abdulsalam but handed Yaradua a Nigeria riddled with insecurity outfits like Boko Haram, Niger Delta Militants, MASSOB, etc.
Then the "equally" competent Yaradua whom Igbos fell over one another to vote for inherited Dollar at N120 but within his 2½ years the Dollar was already at N170. He inherited mild Niger Delta militancy from Obasanjo but handed Jonathan a very cancerous form of it together with Fulani herdsmen menace which started in Plateau State in 2009 right under his nose.

The red pill which your idealistic likes are yet to swallow is that as long as we keep up with this unitary constitution which overconcentrates powers and revenues at the center, there will always be the fear that the tribe which clinches power at the center will tend to favour her members and home region above all others and the need to act in self defense on the part of all other tribes will always precipitate tribal consciousness and its attendant tribalism.
You can't preach tribalism out of existence any more than you can do same for corruption for these are natural human tendencies which we are all born with even though they have negative effects on the society. You rather organize the society in such a way that reduces as much as possible the need for people to hold tight to these vices and that is why we ask for true federalism which places most powers and revenues at the state level in order that people will hold their governors responsible and don't really care who the president is or what tribe he comes from.
The fact that we have had Yoruba President, Fulani presidents, Ijaw president, Hausa Vice president, Yoruba vice president, Ijaw vice president and Fulani vice president yet Nigeria is worse than it was in 1999 should have been an evidence to you that it is not by ethnicity thus Igbo presidency will equally fail us. Therefore what Nigeria has always needed and still needs now is a president that is favourably disposed to restructuring back to the true federalism which Igbos' destroyed in 1966. Whoever among the present contestants is most pro-restructuring is the person who should be voted for by any voter sincerely committed to a New Nigeria that works for everyone regardless of status be he Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba, Igbo, Bini, Urhobo, Efik, Ijaw, Igala, Esan, Etuno, Okpameri, Etsako, Ibibio, Ogoja, Itsekiri, Isoko, Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Ogoni, Anioma, etc. All this talk about Igbo presidency is a fall out of the tribalistic consciousness that only Igbos are Wazobians yet to rule and not about a better Nigeria.

I did not assume that you are yoruba and did not mention that anywhere in what i wrote.

In the last 22 years of democratic rule we have had non competent people in power. Obasanjo, Yaradua, Jonathan and Buhari are certainly not Nigeria's brightest minds.

In an ideal world, decentralization ,devolution of certain powers ,resource control ,true federalism or confederal government are absolutely neccessary for Nigeria to grow.

Nevertheless, facing the reality on ground and the peculiar Nigerian current situation, in the interest of equity, justice and fairness...an easterner should become president. It will help calm a lot of things.

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Quintopia: 9:05pm On Apr 26, 2022
SIMONEKPA7:
smiley
We don't need president from the zoo. Buhari must surfer till he beg.
Biafra is coming. No election in SE come 2023

Hahahaha grin
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Quintopia: 9:17pm On Apr 26, 2022
I reckon Peter Obi would do well as president.

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by ExcelDBM: 9:58pm On Apr 26, 2022
sokera:
Jonathan represented the Igbo too , sebi Jonathan is also Biafra

Your kind like LeoDeKing, ethnic bigots and paid pr miscreants

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by ExcelDBM: 9:59pm On Apr 26, 2022
Tinubuadvocate:
Seun mydn44 lalasticalala oam4j rule 2

You are only wasting your time. The mods will do nada

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by ExcelDBM: 10:00pm On Apr 26, 2022
ogbuefi677:

Why not call FBI,CIA,Mi6,KGB etc?

Don't mind the monthly 30k urchin grin

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Okwyjesus(m): 10:20pm On Apr 26, 2022
Ezeama400:

http://saharareporters.com/2022/04/26/2023-south-east-region-deserves-get-presidency-%E2%80%93-afenifere-middle-belt-pandef

If quota system is allowed to in employment and admission bcs certain people can't match the brain of others.

Quota system should be allowed to pave way for lgbo presidency

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by sokera: 12:07am On Apr 27, 2022
ExcelDBM:


Your kind like LeoDeKing, ethnic bigots and paid pr miscreants
be deceiving yourself… as long as Niger delta is part of Biafra , Jonathan has use Biafra slot .. it’s yoruba time
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Proudlyomonna: 12:10am On Apr 27, 2022
Heavensent01:



everyone know is your nemesis now Jagaban

Ehn Ehn now you have just behaved like a human being��
You can now do the Igbo vs Yoruba gbasgbos you came to this world to do all the dàys of your life��
Ayam not doing �
I am referring you to chipink,that one just like you is also destined to do yoruba vs Igbo gbasgbos �
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Heavensent01(m): 5:22am On Apr 27, 2022
Proudlyomonna:


Ehn Ehn now you have just behaved like a human being��
You can now do the Igbo vs Yoruba gbasgbos you came to this world to do all the dàys of your life��
Ayam not doing �
I am referring you to chipink,that one just like you is also destined to do yoruba vs Igbo gbasgbos �


shatap be forming as if you love anyone, you dont like me I dont like you, save your jargons for the next sit at home


rubbish
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by 1871nc: 6:17am On Apr 27, 2022
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LeoDeKing:

Another hunger and killing? A threat or what? The people that killed are the ones getting killed while hunger is for the lazy arsses.

Tinubu is the next president of the fed rep of the zoo Nigeria. So, with regards your threat, that one is for your igwes not me.

See engrish.

Seems like something made in Aba. angry
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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by ExcelDBM: 6:20am On Apr 27, 2022
sokera:
be deceiving yourself… as long as Niger delta is part of Biafra , Jonathan has use Biafra slot .. it’s yoruba time

Go and say this outside and see if they will not stone you. Shay it's Yoruba turn? Go and claim the seat na
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by 1871b: 6:21am On Apr 27, 2022
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LeoDeKing:
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President of which obodo?

Zoo or biafuro?
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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by 1871b: 6:24am On Apr 27, 2022
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LeoDeKing:
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That's their business.
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by sokera: 6:42am On Apr 27, 2022
ExcelDBM:


Go and say this outside and see if they will not stone you. Shay it's Yoruba turn? Go and claim the seat na
it’s yoruba turn and nothing will happen … Jonathan as use Biafra turn
Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Deadlytruth(m): 8:47am On Apr 27, 2022
otipoju:


I did not assume that you are yoruba and did not mention that anywhere in what i wrote.

In the last 22 years of democratic rule we have had non competent people in power. Obasanjo, Yaradua, Jonathan and Buhari are certainly not Nigeria's brightest minds.

In an ideal world, decentralization ,devolution of certain powers ,resource control ,true federalism or confederal government are absolutely neccessary for Nigeria to grow.

Nevertheless, facing the reality on ground and the peculiar Nigerian current situation, in the interest of equity, justice and fairness...an easterner should become president. It will help calm a lot of things.


Obasanjo's becoming president wasn't done in pursuit of fairness or equity to Yorubas but done by the Northern Oligarchy in cahoots with their Southern Collaborators mostly from the SE and my own SS in pursuit of perpetuating themselves in power and protecting their hold on the national treasury sustained by resources of the Niger Delta. If it were about fairness and equity towards Yorubas, then common sense dictated that it is the candidate whom the Yorubas themselves wanted, i.e. Olu Falae, that everyone should have supported to power back then in 1999. In fact Obasanjo was chosen by the Northern Oligarchy and supported by the SE and SS for the very fact that he had a rich dossier of anti- Yoruba antecedents and was sure to further perpetrate same if given power. So by what logic do you conclude that the choice of him was aimed at doing justice, equity and fairness to Yorubas? You can't claim you were doing justice to Yorubas over June 12 and then pick an enemy of June 12 as beneficiary of that Justice. It simply doesn't make sense anywhere in the world except in Nigeria where abnormality and normality have switched roles for long.

Yaradua was chosen by Obasanjo not in pursuit of any equity, fairness and justice towards the Fulanis in general or the NW region, but as a compensation to the his family for the Abacha Junta murder of his elder brother who was his old friend in the army, his deputy as Military HoS and with whom he served in Abacha's gulag. So it was all about Oligarchy interest which him, the Yaradua family, some Yorubas, Igbos', Middle Belt people, Edos, Urhobos, Efiks, etc all belonged. The Oligarchy is pan-Nigerian in composition.

Jonathan's presidency was not in pursuit of any justice, equity or fairness to the Niger Delta common man because:
1. It was accidental on one hand as it was sure Yaradua wouldn't have ever allowed him succeed him had ill-health not truncated his tenure. You could easily deduce this from the fact that Yaradua never officially transmitted power to Jonathan in any of his trips overseas even when he knew such trips would keep him out of the country for a time longer than the minimum number of days of absence for which the constitution required him to hand over officially to Jonathan.

2. On the other hand, Jonathan's presidency was seen as an act of God by which God himself wanted to divinely intervene not in the plight of Niger Deltans alone but in the plight of every poor, oppressed, suffering and downtrodden common man in all parts of the country given his humble background and his equally ordinary personality as against all his co-aspirants who had been members of the Oligarchy directly or indirectly since independence. But unfortunately, Jonathan wasted that opportunity as he turned his back on the masses after getting to power and began tto prioritize the interest of the very oppressor Oligarchy, so the spirit of God left him and he fell.

Buhari's rise to power wasn't about the need to do any justice, equity or fairness to the Fulanis or his NW region as Yaradua who came before him was equally a Fulani from the NW as himself. Rather Buhari was supported on certain credentials about ideal leadership for a Nigeria working for everyone which he unfortunately failed to live up to just like Jonathan.

Based on the foregoing therefore, I find it difficult to find meaning in this premise of rotational fairness, equity and justice on which this Igbo presidency demand is premised.
Get it clear, I am not against Igbo presidency even though the Igbo rule of Aguiyi Ironsi derailed us from the initially working Nigeria into this dysfunctional one through his Unification Decree which destroyed the very structure we now ask for . In fact there are one or two intelligent and honest Igbo persons who have admitted that Ironsi destroyed Nigeria, thus can be trusted to actually bring about the new Nigeria on our lips through a genuine commitment to restructuring. What I am however against is this emotional blackmail that everyone should just cave into Igbo presidency project just because they have to be placated like it was done to Obasanjo on behalf of Yorubas, Yaradua and Buhari on behalf of Fulanis, and Jonathan on behalf of Ijaws when in actual fact we know that Obasanjo and Yaradua were the choices of an Oligarchy motivated with the desire to retain power and resources of the country within their family forever. Like I already said, the Oligarchy is pan-Nigerian in composition, so let it give power to any Igbo member of their family and call it compensation to Igbos' over the Biafra genocide against them, and that will make more sense than this theory of equity, justice and fairness being used to insult our sensibilities.

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by Deadlytruth(m): 9:54am On Apr 27, 2022
Okwyjesus:


If quota system is allowed to in employment and admission bcs certain people can't match the brain of others.

Quota system should be allowed to pave way for lgbo presidency

Quota system is a fall out of the centralization of powers, resources and opportunities by Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man, through his Unification Decree. Recall that before that decree, each region built and run their own Universities, e.g. University of Northern Nigeria with campuses in Zaria (Now ABU), Jos (Now Unijos), Sokoto (now UDU), Maiduguri (now Unimaid, and Kano (Now BUK) which were all controlled and run 100% by the Northern Region Government alone which also decided their admission criteria without any input from the office of the Prime Minister. Likewise, University of Ibadan and University of Ife (Now OAU) were founded, funded and administered entirely by the Western Region Government which as well set standards and admission criteria for them. Same with University of Nigeria Nsukka founded, administered and funded by the Eastern Region Government which determined its admission criteria. Under such a scenario, the government at the center couldn't dictate or impose any policy on those universities because the Independence Constitution simply forbade it.
But once Ironsi came and Whittled down the regions' powers through his Unification Decree that gave over so much powers to the center in his rather strange pursuit of national unity, the stage became set for the federal government to start making uniform policies binding on all these universities. Quota system, educationally disadvantaged states and catchment area were some of such policies.
For example the educationally disadvantaged states policy goes like this:
In a federal University like University of Portharcourt now: if a person from Edo State seeks to read Geology meets up with the cut off mark, and a person from Taraba State seeks to read the same Geology in the same Uniport but falls short of the cut off mark by, say, five marks; the admission is given to the Taraba applicant because his state he comes from has just one university which can't accommodate all them over there while the Edo person is rejected because his home state has about 11 universities. But the question is this, was it Edo State that stopped Taraba State government from setting up universities all this while? This is how Aguiyi Ironsi laid the foundation which only gave too much powers to the center to kill merit by making uniform policies for everyone in every aspect of our national lives thus limiting the potentially resourceful and gifted person to the same level as the dull and unintelligent person. So why are Igbos now crying blue murder over quota system?

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Re: PANDEF, Middle Bet, Afenifere Insist On Igbo Presidency by KogiPikin: 10:09am On Apr 27, 2022
The real coconut head.

VoteTinubu2023:
Every Nigerian has the constitutional right to promote the Presidency of their choice.

For me and my family, I solidly stand and support Ahmed Bola Tinubu's mandate.


Vote Tinubu 2023.

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