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Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 4:52pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: Are you forgetting the mass sorting going on in universities too? See, you can't be consistent in cheating the system. Awarding scores for 'awards won' favors me, you think I'm happy PTDF scrapped that? They've got the yam and knife. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 4:55pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Engr2016: In a normal 4-scholar award list, FGM has at least one name. UK is highly competitive. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 4:57pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: What does that mean? Either way, class of degree isn't as weighted as O'Levels for it to matter even though it's generally more credible than O'Levels IMO. Maybe both should be relegated to 10 - 15 points each. Then have SOP and other qualifications round out the rest of the process. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 5:12pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: I dunno the year or school you sat for WAEC exam that gives you the impression it's not credible. My secondary school was a mission school in the North, strongly against exam malpractice. The best five students in WAEC in my set are doing greatly; One is working in Germany as we speak, he won a scholarship for BSc. 2 are doctors (one is UK based) I can go on and on. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by FatimaMK: 5:13pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
The marking template I shared was for PhD in 2018, and I said they may decide to change it. Because some changes are made to the scoring template almost every year. O-level marks for Msc was 30 in same 2018. I actually don't know the marking template for 2020 and this year as well. May we be successful at the end. Engr2016: 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 5:15pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: You dunno there are professional SOP and research proposal writers? Why do you feel it deserves more points than other rating categories? |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 5:22pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: Its safe to assume that there are 1.5x more UK applicants than FGM, hence there's usually 1.5x more slots for UK than FGM. You need more data to definitively say that UK is more competitive but the ratio of successful applicants for UK commensurate for the number of applicants. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: Interviewers don't grade you based on what you write on your SOP or proposal. They do that based on how you verbally present and defend it. I wasn't even asked to present a hard copy. I'm sure same goes for a lot of people. 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: That's a fallacy of composition that further buttresses my point. You had to go through a strict exam environment, does that mean everyone else did? There are miracle centers all over the country. How is it fair to assess your performance against these other candidates? There are cases of people specifically having others write O Levels for them to get high grades for this scholarship. Something that can be so easily manipulated shouldn't carry this much weight period. 3 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Engr2016: 5:29pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Wow! This is a great observation. Perhaps, they have read it or seen it on the computer screen. Liebermann: |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Dreldee: 5:31pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: They have it on their system remember say you upload am for portal, prolly don jack am self overnight before your interview session with them. Forget oo na war btwn us and the panelist. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Engr2016: Doubt it. They don't pull up your profile until you go into the room and while you're in there, they're busy assessing everything else. They input your grade immediately after asking pertinent questions about the issues you raised and move to the next candidate. Even when they ask you for a copy of the SOP/Proposal, they don't grade you on the written document but your verbal presentation. Otherwise an interview wouldn't be necessary to grade your SOP/Proposal. 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Dreldee: They don't know who they're interviewing until you tell them your name and they pull up your profile after which they focus on grading your documents first. If they refer to your SOP it's not to grade you on the document but to ask questions and assess your motivation and understanding of the issues you propose to address. Your presentation and your responses determine your score for the SOP. 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Engr2016: 5:39pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Great point. The conduct of examinations is stricter in universities than those of WAEC, GCE or NECO. I took a candidate to a center last year and she vividly told me several times that the invigilator / test center ( public school) requested and collected money from candiates to allow them cheat as they like. But she challenged the invigilator that this was morally wrong. Nevertheless majority of the candidates were still allowed to cheat as they like. Liebermann: |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 5:42pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: Are you saying 16 - 18yrs old preparing for WAEC cheat just so they can apply for PTDF in future ![]() If the latter is the case, then such student must be dumb cos the same energy can get you other world class scholarships that don't even need a waec certificate. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Solicitor2040: 5:43pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: To scale the PTDF, one needs a large volume of prayers. That is all. Let us put an end to the speculation and duel on prayers. The interview will be over tomorrow, and what has happened has happened and can never be reversed. We wish ourselves the best of luck! 4 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Engr2016: 5:46pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
I don't think that is what he meant. He is obviously referring to the time the Olevels were written before gaining admission to the university. Exam malpractices have been going on since time immemorial. XtraSmooth404: |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 5:47pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: See ehn, I don't understand you. Grooming someone for interview isn't a problem. Past winners of Erasmus Mundus scholarships can attest to the help of mock interviews from past scholars. The way you guys downplay WAEC result like your reality is the same for millions of other students. Girls sleep for marks in school, some sort with cash, etc. How many Nigerian universities are world standard ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Engr2016: 5:48pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
This is what I have been emphasising too. May GOD favour us in JESUS Name. Amen. Solicitor2040: |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 5:49pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
My discoveries from that shortlisted list truly humbled me, so this back and forth argument isn't even helping. Let's kuku wait for the successful list. Whatever outcome, I can chest it. 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: Thats the point, they don't check exam year nor do they care. Its easy to rewrite your O Levels like many people do with PTDF in mind, you can't really change your tertiary results once awarded. Since O'Levels offer an advantage for PTDF and not other scholarships, I don't see how that can really help them. A mediocre profile can hardly get you most scholarships, a mediocre profile with excellent O'Levels offer you a great advantage with PTDF thats the main issue here. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 6:09pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: Which is why the interview should be more rigorous and improvised to throw as many curveballs as possible to get a much better assessment of a persons knowledge. You keep mentioning university grades as if they don't carry 1/3rd of the marks that O Levels do and great O'Level grades are much easier to come by. Like I said, 10-15 marks (20-30 in total) seems fair for both. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Solicitor2040: No doubt. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Enugbe: 6:12pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
I am yet to receive invite for virtual interviews. Please who has received already, thanks. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by jlomz: 6:12pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Dreldee: See comrade wey interview local men oooooO |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by tolaade1960: 6:21pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Honestly, the best way to have chosen MSc would have been transparent Aptitude Test which they were doing before. Whether 1,2:1,2.2 , subject them to same aptitude test . PhD could do interview. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 6:25pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: Bro, whichever rating criterion you pick, there's a way to beat it. For example, Awards, if you bring award letters or plaques, how do I verify the authenticity? Probably this was scrapped cos of too many fake awards. WAEC, you've stated your point that people rewrite to boost their grades but the percentage is negligible, if you ask me. You can't comfortably plan with Nigerian government. First degree? Masters? No much comment, we're familiar with Nigerian universities. Professional membership? Just have your money, you can join as many as possible. Published journals? Hire someone. Interview defense? Get past scholars to prep you. SoP or research proposal? Outsource this to Professional and pay them. Which one did I miss? 4 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 6:27pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
tolaade1960: Aptitude tests were done in the past until people devised means to cheat the system. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
XtraSmooth404: Whoever wrote your SOP wont answer in depth questions about your field for you. My argument isnt that these criterias can't be unreliable is that something as unreliable as O Levels shouldn't carry as much weight as it does. |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by EdoBoy90(m): 6:31pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
I think 'recommendation' from the p 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by BNW1: 6:37pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
babey543: I only used my Waec results for the application. However during interview, the interviewers asked me to give them both my Waec and Neco, but I told them I didn't use my Neco for the application. They insisted that if I have my Neco I should still give them so they may pick the best results from the two. I am tempted to ask this; if the software had graded the Waec results and the panel is only verifying, why did they ask of my Neco to pick the best scores from both Waec and Neco results knowing well that I didn't use the Neco results for the application (and was not graded by the software)? |
Re: Apply For 2022/2023 PTDF Overseas Postgraduate Scholarship Scheme by XtraSmooth404: 6:42pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Liebermann: He said O'level is unreliable ![]() ![]() Sound scholars with straight A's will just be laughing at you while reading your comments. You sound so sure about these fake waec results. One thing I know is I've not come across someone with sound waec results who can't defend it anywhere & anytime. If I was PTDF, I'd simply make sure that the year you acquired your BSc isnt before the year you got your waec. Problem solved. 3 Likes |
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