Nemesis4you:


ISR element has always been part of artillery since WW1 ( same with armour )

Artillery batteries have had aviation units allocated to them for spotting, fire direction, fire correction, BDA etc

What the drones bring into play when deployed in support of artillery is - reduced cost, high volume of ISR and elimination of risk to pilots

So with time drones will more or less replace the manned platforms in support of ISR for artillery

Cant comment of bayraktar , no info with me regarding same

Odunayow:
Nah he won't. He'd make inference from what a distant cousin, an uncle on the maternal side, a 4th generation son, to tell us another story

a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.
"researchers are entrusted with drawing inferences from the data"

Informed Egyptian sources have revealed specific information and exclusive details about vast secret funds controlled by the Egyptian military institution as part of its financial assets, which are not subject to any sort of supervision. These funds are not included in the general budget of the state or even the armed forces' budget, not least because a large part is kept outside Egypt.

kabe1:


Funny how spending works in South-Africa. The sort of spending that grounds more than 80% of your Gripen fleet, kills of your Patria IFV and can afford to get you one small boat in 10 years.

jl115:
New SAAB contract has been signed including a new Gripen simulator, the Badger is a Denel failure not a SANDF one. Our IPVs are nearly as big as your OPVs and we purchased 3 of them plus a new Hydrographic survey ship of 95m.

kabe1:


The sharp end of the SA Air Force (SAAF) – Air Force Base (AFB) Makhado-based 2 Squadron and its Saab Gripen fighters – has been dormant for more than six months with, as yet, no date known or set for the Swedish-built jet fighters to take to the sky with South Africans in the cockpit.

Making matters worse is the Gripen simulator is part and parcel of the not renewed maintenance and support contracts that Department of Defence (DoD) Head of Communication (HOC) Siphiwe Dlamini omitted to mention in his December statement advising the temporary grounding of South Africa’s Gripen fleet.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/saaf-gripens-still-on-the-ground/

jl115:
New SAAB contract has been signed including a new Gripen simulator, the Badger is a Denel failure not a SANDF one. Our IPVs are nearly as big as your OPVs and we purchased 3 of them plus a new Hydrographic survey ship of 95m.

jl115:

Same article

The one-star added “negotiation has been concluded” with “the process” in “the final phase awaiting final contract placement”.

the Swedish-built jets, according to Kweta, have been maintained “even during times of not having a contract”.

kabe1:


You have 1 IPV in service for a contract signed in 2018.

5 years for 1 IPV.

Your Project Hotel is nearly 30 years old, yet no Hydrographic ship to show for it.

You are hopelessly delusional.

kabe1:


Maintained and still gounded.

You are moronic.

jl115:
those Budgets are not correct my bru.... They are different to the ones presented by each countries own treasury... I would like to know the source of that infographic

kabe1:


You have 1 IPV in service for a contract signed in 2018.

5 years for 1 IPV.

Your Project Hotel is nearly 30 years old, yet no Hydrographic ship to show for it.

You are hopelessly delusional.

jl115:

What is this:

The first MMIPV, SAS Sekukhune (P1571) will be handed over to the SA Navy on 18 May in Simon’s Town. Damen Shipyards Cape Town was contracted in January 2018 to deliver three Biro vessels, with the second (P1572) to be handed over in June 2023 and P1573 in September 2024.

Project Hotel:
Project Hotel survey vessel to be delivered in 2023

GreenandGold:


Please behave Henry, I still have your picture hey.

jl115:
According to the Nigerian parliament N1.2 Trillion was allocated to defence(including capital expenditure) that would equal around $2.8 billion

kikuyu1:


Me? No, nigga!



I'm a logical person. In everything I do observe and apply logic. Fyi, 2 different substance abuse counsellors independently told me the same as I recently staged an intervention for a nephew -loooon story!
Applying logic, we'll see how the budget breaks
down per capita into acquisitions, pay, welfare, pension ,base construction & maintenance and other defence budget line items.



Country Budget Personnel per capita spend

Algeria 9.1 bn $ 130000 70000 $

Morocco 5.3 bn $ 200000 26500 $

Egypt 5.1 bn $ 450000 IMPOSSIBLE!

They must have extrabudgetary support. Hmmmm...I thought so. They've been getting 1.5 bn $ annually since 87 from the US to be spent strictly on their own platforms. Where do all their MI A1s, F 16s, Apaches, 130s and even E 2s come from?

GASSSPP!? Look at this:
[urlhttps://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210625-egyptian-army-controls-secret-funds-report-finds//url]

Makes sense when you see the secret armed forces account was worth almost 20 bn $ a decade ago.

Nigeria 4.46 bn $ 223000 20000 $


South Africa 3.2 bn $ 73000 43000$

Kenya 1.1 bn $ 30000 370000 $

These are the facts!


For your own sake outgrow this homotional attitude that makes you cry and throw things when confronted with reality. You're still young and it'll bite you in the arse as you screech, "Oyinbos, Chinese, Arabs are finishing me!"

Think:
- whose army does divisional level live firexes every couple of months?
- whose ordinary infantry guys are so well kitted Naijjans themselves ask if they're specops?
ITS THE BUDGET! Don't get mad.

jl115:
According to the Nigerian parliament N1.2 Trillion was allocated to defence(including capital expenditure) that would equal around $2.8 billion

kikuyu1:





Country Budget Personnel per capita spend

Algeria 9.1 bn $ 130000 70000 $

Morocco 5.3 bn $ 200000 26500 $

Egypt 5.1 bn $ 450000 IMPOSSIBLE!

They must have extrabudgetary support. Hmmmm...I thought so. They've been getting 1.5 bn $ annually since 87 from the US to be spent strictly on their own platforms. Where do all their MI A1s, F 16s, Apaches, 130s and even E 2s come from?

GASSSPP!? Look at this:
[urlhttps://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210625-egyptian-army-controls-secret-funds-report-finds//url]

Makes sense when you see the secret armed forces account was worth almost 20 bn $ a decade ago.

Nigeria 4.46 bn $ 223000 20000 $


South Africa 3.2 bn $ 73000 43000$

Kenya 1.1 bn $ 30000 370000 $

These are the facts!


For your own sake outgrow this homotional attitude that makes you cry and throw things when confronted with reality. You're still young and it'll bite you in the arse as you screech, "Oyinbos, Chinese, Arabs are finishing me!"

Think:
- whose army does divisional level live firexes every couple of months?
- whose ordinary infantry guys are so well kitted Naijjans themselves ask if they're specops?
ITS THE BUDGET! Don't get mad.

jl115:
New SAAB contract has been signed including a new Gripen simulator, the Badger is a Denel failure not a SANDF one. Our IPVs are nearly as big as your OPVs and we purchased 3 of them plus a new Hydrographic survey ship of 95m.

Odunayaw:
Unrelated to your back and forth with Kate

But what OPV is it nearly as big as? The P18Ns or the coming one from Dearsan

Odunayaw:
How many times do we have to tell you we run Extra budgetary allocations over here?

MAN1960:


So this year Nigeria has 2.8 billion dollars to spend on recruitment, military infrastructure, arms purchase and recurrent expenditures AND WE ALREADY SPENT ABOUT 1 BILLION Dollars ON 12 ATTACK HELICOPTERS AND STILL ORDERED 2 SHIPS

Nigeria spend money on defense from two sources

1 Frome the national budget
2 from the executive covers( money giving to the president or to the executive arm of government to enable it carry out it's duties)

Go make some research and you see that the Nigerian armed forces always spends more than it's defense budget.

Thank you sir ( the only man that knows the defense budget of every country in the world)

kabe1:


The Armscor announcement, to which SAS had not responded at the time of publication, ends a process that started in July 2014 when Armscor issued a tender for a new hydrographic platform for the Navy.

kabe1:


To each his own, you asked for a source, and i provided.

You'll be delusional to believe South-Africa spends above Nigeria. At least in the past 4 years.

Odunayaw:
Stop screeching. That was a light hearted comment

Infact you still even talked about a nephew as I was expecting

Put your tampon on now

Odunayaw:
When did Nigeria's Armed Forces grow to 223k?

Where do you guys usually pull these numbers from? Wikipedia?

jl115:
... Yes as do all other countries

NTSA:
The Kenya Sports Shooting Federation, in conjunction with the International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC) has organized a two-day shooting championship that will see about 100 countries participate.

jl115:
... Yes as do all other countries

Covert1:


Classification varies in Navies. Performance relative between Corvette and OPV is subjective as the latter, permit me to say is more "sea friendly" for lack of a better word, more cost effective especially in peace time making it a darling of Navies. Here again I repeat its modular design makes it in Nigerian strategic Naval plans a "Light Frigate" or if you must a "Missile Vessel" (they are all vessels anyway) - nomenclature which varies is based mostly on speed, size, armaments, weapons systems & technology etc) primarily dedicated to Anti-Surface Warfare & Anti-Air Warfare.

As per current official NN Naval plans we haven't seen clear need for Corvettes rather OPVs, Frigates, LSTs, H-vessels & submarines.

The incoming new vessels is not the only new modular designed ship been ordered. Strategically military planners in Abuja plan for a hybrid warfare & decision advantages where Hard Assets can be game changing multiplier effects in critical performance areas hence as you would read in this purchase not all information about its systems are divulged both from manufacturer and the end user.

And I must state your intellectual aplomb is a welcome development on a platform with majority myopi.c, i.ll-mannere.d ignorant.s. I will never dignify i.llteracy rather eradicate it.

Covert1 does not respond to nonsens.e so I don't even see it. There are moniker.s I'm sworn never to read again and have never again so those writing nonsens.e humor me.

Please note: I repeat again, manufacturers produce to meet specific requirements of the customer and being weapons most guidance informations are kept under wraps because surprise is an element of warfare anyday.