This is an irreligious write up. I believe knowing this will change the way we see God. Both atheists and theists alike.

Consider it a scientific post cos religion is science but on a whole different level. Thank you....

NOTE: Long read. Pls follow to the end.

Genesis 1: 1-2
(1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.)

This Bible reading has told us everything about God in a few words but throughout human existence and cultures nobody seems to understand the real message. It is not just a narration but in it is the full definition of God.

Nobody gets it, because understanding this concept is outside of man's wildest conciousness. Stay with me now!

John 1: 1-5
(1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.)

Now this wonderful part also tells us who God is but we still can not understand because our minds can never comprehend the phenomenon.

Scienctists have talked about the big bang, it happened billions of years ago. Something they do not understand is that is God in action.

I am getting there!

God said he will raise the stone to worship him. I think it is literal cos the Bible talked about everything praising him in different passages, trees, animals, rocks, winds, fire, everything. Only one force can do that. Everything is subject to that force, everything.

I have been meaning to write about a topic; "STAGES OF TIME TRAVEL SCIENCTISTS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT."

In it I wanted to try and explain how time travel can become a reality. I haven't finished the article yet but along the line I discovered that it will take man reaching the highest point of civilization to achieve that feat, that is time travel. By my observation

God is discribed as being Omnipotent, Omniscient, omnipresent. All powerful, all knowing, and all present, respectively. Only one reality has that and that reality is even "omni dimensional", I just made that up to show you the reality of God.

The two most amazing and elusive concepts to man that I understand are two phenomenas:

1. Speed Of Light

and,

2. Time.

By now you might have guessed right. Drum roll please!!

God is Time.

I believe God is Time itself. In other words, time is a conciousness, a living conciousness.

God is called FATHER throughout every civilization and believes known to man because time is creation itself. Time is father. Light is birthed from time, space is birthed from time, the universe and it entire existence is depended and subject to time.

From the first message in the Bible to the last it centers around time.

The Bible says no one has seen God, because no one has seen TIME. You surely experience it, you also feel it. The Universe is within the conciousness of God, like a brain. And time is the conciousness, the being.

Time does not mean immortality, infinity is not Time, neither is the Universe outside of time. All those phenomenas are tools and objects of time.

The Bible said "we are gods". Because we are the closest to God. We can mimic the creator by creating. Not by accident but for a definite purpose. But we can only act inside of Time.

Even if humans are able to time travel, even if humans are able to move in the speed of light or discover the "elixir of immortality", we are still bound by time because we can only operate within it. Within space and time.

The Bible said he will show us the mysteries of the earth and of his kingdom, from past, present and even the future. Because he knows them, because he was there, because he is Time.
Happy Sunday and thank you.

I hope this post leads to intelligent discussion. I am tired of not being able to meet big thinking minds in reality and even on Nigeria's most visited web.

Pls guys tag the biggest and polite thinkers you know to come in here. Thank you.

Ubunja, thesourcerer, righteousness89, Jesusjnr2020, Toks2008 etc, come on let us rub minds here.

Insightful.

LocalStandard1:
I hope this post leads to intelligent discussion. I am tired of not being able to meet big thinking minds in reality and even on Nigeria's most visited web.

Pls guys tag the biggest and polite thinkers you know to come in here. Thank you.

Ubunja, thesourcerer, righteousness89, Jesusjnr2020, Toks2008 etc, come on let us rub minds here.

if you say god is time, it then means god exists only here on earth cause the concept of time does not exist in space.

Just booked this, will be right back.

obiekunie01:


if you say god is time, it then means god exists only here on earth cause the concept of time does not exist in space.

If you agree God only exist on earth then he was in the beginning is now and will be through eternity.

But I don't agree time exist only on earth. Universal change is prove of the omnipresence of time. Space expansion is prove of space time. Thank you.

Oh, and time exist outside earth, just different pase.

obiekunie01:


if you say god is time, it then means god exists only here on earth cause the concept of time does not exist in space.

And, don't call time a "concept". It is a real, felt and observable reality. Not an idea.

Change is an expression of Time.

Distance, from the Universal level down to the atomic level is prove of time.

Movement, mass, velocity are tools of time.

Is there a greater phenomenon or force more than time? Even death is a tool of time.

LocalStandard1:


If you agree God only exist on earth then he was in the beginning is now and will be through eternity.

But I don't agree time exist only on earth. Universal change is prove of the omnipresence of time. Space expansion is prove of space time. Thank you.

Oh, and time exist outside earth, just different pase.

What you stated is not and objective reality - in fact, there is no objective reality, only what we perceive in our Consciousness.

i don't want to ague with your believe in god and time, but fact is, time existing in space is based on the assumption that the known laws of physics exists in space. As it stands now sir, quantum physics has clearly shown that such does not exist objectively.

Space exists, time is a cognitive function, not a property of the real world of vibrating energy.

Space rolls, re-configuring itself endlessly, and we mobile perceivers have memory, therefore time. But it is only in our heads, not “out there” as it seems.

Space is dimensionless - we project dimension to it bc we have memory and therefore are subjective to dimension and time which we tend to project to space.

Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle explains it even better.

Oh and i never told you i believe in your kind of god concept. Am only telling you that your god and time exists only on earth or 'your' perceived reality. sun rise, sun set, time goes by and turn to days, months, years, and past, present and future. Those sir are your perceived reality which only exists here.

Space is not a straight line sir - it is inherently curved into a dimensionless network.

obiekunie01:


What you stated is not and objective reality - in fact, there is no objective reality, only what we perceive in our Consciousness.

i don't want to ague with your believe in god and time, but fact is, time existing in space is based on the assumption that the known laws of physics exists in space. As it stands now sir, quantum physics has clearly shown that such does not exist objectively.

Space exists, time is a cognitive function, not a property of the real world of vibrating energy.

Space rolls, re-configuring itself endlessly, and we mobile perceivers have memory, therefore time. But it is only in our heads, not “out there” as it seems.

Space is dimensionless - we project dimension to it bc we have memory and therefore are subjective to dimension and time which we tend to project to space.

Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle explains it even better.

Oh and i never told you i believe in your kind of god concept. Am only telling you that your god and time exists only on earth or 'your' perceived reality. sun rise, sun set, time goes by and turn to days, months, years, and past, present and future. Those sir are your perceived reality which only exists here.

Space is not a straight line sir - it is inherently curved into a dimensionless network.

I don't agree with you submission but I love the rationality. But I don't want this to be a talk of "my religion, your religion or belief". Thank you.

If you say time only exist in our imagination then you are contradicting space expansion. You are also saying the decay of organisms is unreal or the change of minerals over time is also unreal. Those exist outside our conciousness.

The theory you quoted is based on time as observed by our perspective. Now, change is prove of time irrespective of who observes it. The new discovery of the theory of gravity proves time. The fact that you can observe time from your perspective is prove of it.

I never discribed time as sunset or rise.
I discribed it as change and distance. Those are realities even in space.

I probably made a mistake posting this in the Religion section. But I want to know from the Religious what they think about my assumptions. And also from the atheists what they think about time as it concerns or relate with God.

This is not a debate about the believe or existence of God.

LocalStandard1:

1. Speed Of Light

and,

2. Time.

By now you might have guessed right. Drum roll please!!

God is Time.

It is written He Wraps Himself with Light! Psalm 104:

And the Hillsong music "Here Now(Madness)" answers you.

"Skies spin their dance within Your breath
Time runs its race within Your hand
And my mind runs wild to comprehend
What no mind on earth could understand"

LocalStandard1:


I never discribed time as sunset or rise.
I discribed it as change and distance. Those are realities even in space.

Which is still under the experience of man, a subject under this "time" while he still breathes.

Dtruthspeaker:


Which is still under the experience of man, a subject under this "time" while he still breathes.

But if time is a matter of perspective and "experience" doesn't that also prove that it is God, and he exists? I mean, everything and everyone is subject to that phenomenon, whether you acknowledge it or not it doesn't reduce it supremacy over you.

You might elude death for a while but even eternity is within its frame of influence. Don't you know that some eternities are more than others?

Dtruthspeaker:


It is written He Wraps Himself with Light! Psalm 104:

And the Hillsong music "Here Now(Madness)" answers you.

"Skies spin their dance within Your breath
Time runs its race within Your hand
And my mind runs wild to comprehend
What no mind on earth could understand"

Oh! Sorry for I thought you where against.

Thank you for that wonderful verse. It shows us that even time is within the influence of the Most High. Then what can compare to him?

LocalStandard1:


Oh! Sorry for I thought you where against.

Thank you for that wonderful verse. It shows us that even time is within the influence of the Most High. Then what can compare to him?

No thing can be compared to Him. He is too too Mighty to be compared.

Irreligious write up then you went ahead to quote a particular religion book.

Dtruthspeaker:


No thing can be compared to Him. He is too too Mighty to be compared.

I think he is so outside reason that some say he doesn't exist. No quantification.

Maynmann:
Irreligious write up then you went ahead to quote a particular religion book.

As my reference, yes.

LocalStandard1:


As my reference, yes.

Using a religious reference for an irreligious post, brilliant.

Maynmann:


Using a religious reference for an irreligious post, brilliant.

Good evening sir. What do you think about my assertion and quotes about time, do you think it is the most fascinating phenomena? If not what supercede it?

Do you think time is life and is also death? Do you agree time is the father of existence or can any phenomena exist outside it?

LocalStandard1:


Good evening sir. What do you think about my assertion and quotes about time, do you think it is the most fascinating phenomena? If not what supercede it?

Do you think time is life and is also death? Do you agree time is the father of existence or can any phenomena exist outside it?

No one can die. We are OM.
What does time mean?

LocalStandard1:


I think he is so outside reason that some say he doesn't exist. No quantification.

That is what it means to be A Creator. Creators are beyond the reach of their creations eg look at where Mr. Toyoda to his Camry or Steve Jobs to his iPhone.

They are far far apart from their creations.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is what it means to be A Creator. Creators are beyond the reach of their creations eg look at where Mr. Toyoda to his Camry or Steve Jobs to his iPhone.

They are far far apart from their creations.

How then did the iPhone know it’s Steve Jobs that created him? How did iphone arrive at that particular name if they are so far apart and beyond reach?

Maynmann:

How then did the iPhone know it’s Steve Jobs that created him?

1. No other person claims ownership of it anywhere.
2. It is in its owners house.
3. It does not see any other potential owner fighting it's suspected owner over it.

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How did iphone arrive at that particular name if they are so far apart and beyond reach?

Your stupidity has no end! iPhone can not name itself and every reasonable person knows that man is greatly greater by far from his phone hence the word "far apart and beyond reach.

But stupid people like you also have a place in nairaland.

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=113972978][/quote]

You just say hogwash.
It’s the creator that called it iPhone, the creator can choose to call it android tomorrow that does not make it less of a CELL PHONE.

Your condescending language shows you are ignorant of what you are saying, read yourself and see if you make any sense.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is what it means to be A Creator. Creators are beyond the reach of their creations eg look at where Mr. Toyoda to his Camry or Steve Jobs to his iPhone.

They are far far apart from their creations.

If the creator are beyond the reach of their creation, how then did iphone know it was “Steve jobs” that created it?

Maynmann:


You just say hogwash.
It’s the creator that called it iPhone, the creator can choose to call it android tomorrow that does not make it less of a CELL PHONE.

And the issue is not about "the name A Creator chooses to call his creation" which is always my issue with you. In your attempt to poke holes, you go off topic and start making tsunamis in a table spoon.

Dtruthspeaker:


And the issue is not about "the name A Creator chooses to call his creation" which is always my issue with you. In your attempt to poke holes, you go off topic and start making tsunamis in a table spoon.

I was replying to this, dummy