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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 8:50pm On Jul 05, 2022
iamoyindamola:

Didn't know I thought donj was trolling

He suspected, perhaps assumed. I am a Muslim and very proud of my Religion.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:52pm On Jul 05, 2022
GloriousGbola:


Leave Dayo jare. Would he vote a trans with a proven track record? See how the right went nuts over Obama claiming the guy na undercover alfa. Biden sef is the second Catholic to be president. They were not comfortable with Kennedy then.

Bias and prejudice is part and parcel of democracy, the politics of popularity and acceptability

In 2024 I am voting Ron DeSantis, At this point I do not know which church he attends. I supported Obama and till now I dont know which denomination he was. I know Biden is Catholic

Bias and Prejudice is part and parcel of Democracy BTW join us in the Republican party to make Dr Oz the first Moslem in US Senate
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 8:55pm On Jul 05, 2022
If APC fields a Christian Northerner, then they should kiss Presidency goodbye in 2023, coz SE/SS won't still vote for Tinubu. They've got their Sons vying for President (Obi) and Vice President (Okowa) respectively.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:57pm On Jul 05, 2022
Oasis007:


Fúck MURIC, Fúck CAN, Fúck all fuckin persons that so much carrying Religion on their empty heads like gala.

Where has the fúckin Religions take us in Africa? Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca as an Arab. Jesus Christ was born Jerusalem as a Hebrew..... none was born in Africa.

Colonial Masters brought Christianity to Nigeria, same fúckin Masters that sold our great grandfathers to slavery. Stole our Artefacts. Destroy our Cultures, Beliefs and Ways of Lives.


Usman Dan Fodio spread Islam to South West Nigeria through Battles. He was stopped at Osogbo but it was too late already. Malians actually brought Islam to North via Trading.

So why the Fuss?! Must we kill ourselves over Religions always? Instead of focusing on the pressing Challenges, we are more concerned about Religions.

We ain't ready to fix Nigeria.

U are saying 4ck CAN, 4ck MURIC ; but whether u like it or not these are the bodies shaping the opinions of millions of Nigerians. These bodies can steer up a rebellion if it suits their purpose and agenda; they are powerful like that.

Recently Adeboye asked members to defend themselves if attacked.... Then I guess he realised the import of his words and had to later had an addendum the defence he meant 2as not physical o. I bet u if things get worse and the man preaches about the battles children of Israel fought in the Bible against the Philistines ; u will be surprised how the members will yield such calls which may lead to further religious crises.


Like I said it's advisable that for the sake of national peace the parties just continue with the existing arrangement of having both parties occupy the first and second most important offices in the land.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:58pm On Jul 05, 2022
Android17:
You are being fallacious by appealing to your emotions. Your initial poser was that it was political suicide for APC. I am showing you why it is not.

Now, concerning your more current disposition that it will displease some zones of Nigeria after the fact. Yes, you are right that it will, but it will still be that demographic/zone that would not have favored the winner (whoever that winner is). I hope you catch it.

Some people will always be displeased in any and every choice, Even if you choose Adeboye and Matthew Kukah as president and Vice, Catholic church will have something to complain about

There was a place in the SE where they are homogeneous Christians that protested about bringing a Catholic priest from Anambra state to head a diocese in Imo. Archbishop Okpaleke you can search him

Celestial church the court cases following the death of their leader many decades ago is still on.

People will always complain. Its left to you to decide whether you want to win or appease people who wont wont for you regardless

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 8:59pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:


U are saying 4ck CAN, 4ck MURIC ; but whether u like it or not these are the bodies shaping the opinions of millions of Nigerians. These bodies can steer up a rebellion if it suits their purpose and agenda; they are powerful like that.

Recently Adeboye asked members to defend themselves if attacked.... Then I guess he realised the import of his words and had to later had an addendum the defence he meant 2as not physical o. I bet u if things get worse and the man preaches about the battles children of Israel fought in the Bible against the Philistines ; u will be surprised how the members will yield such calls which may lead to further religious crises.


Like I said it's advisable that for the sake of national peace the parties just continue with the existing arrangement of having both parties occupy the first and second most important offices in the land.

I can tell you MURIC has no influence in SouthWest. No one gives a fúck about MURIC except their Co Members, and they ain't even gonna vote.

NASFAT, QUAREEB get more Members than MURIC. You can’t ever see any of the two Associations acting so stupid like MURIC.

Also we have Ansarudeen, Nawarudeen, FOMWAN, Deenul Haq, NACOMYO etc..... in the scheme of things islamically in SouthWest Nigeria, MURIC are just Noise makers.

BTW: MUSWEN supercede all of them. Full meaning of MUSWEN is; Muslim Ummah of South West Nigeria.

https://muswen.org.ng/
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:59pm On Jul 05, 2022
Oasis007:
If APC fields a Christian Northerner, then they should kiss Presidency goodbye in 2023, coz SE/SS won't still vote for Tinubu. They've got their Sons vying for President (Obi) and Vice President (Okowa) respectively.

If APC pick who is the most popular pastor in the SE as VP to Tinubu the SE still wont vote him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:01pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:


U are saying 4ck CAN, 4ck MURIC ; but whether u like it or not these are the bodies shaping the opinions of millions of Nigerians. These bodies can steer up a rebellion if it suits their purpose and agenda; they are powerful like that.

Recently Adeboye asked members to defend themselves if attacked.... Then I guess he realised the import of his words and had to later had an addendum the defence he meant 2as not physical o. I bet u if things get worse and the man preaches about the battles children of Israel fought in the Bible against the Philistines ; u will be surprised how the members will yield such calls which may lead to further religious crises.


Like I said it's advisable that for the sake of national peace the parties just continue with the existing arrangement of having both parties occupy the first and second most important offices in the land.

But how has that helped so far? You are saying things are getting worse yet you want us to continue with it. Whatsapp chat killed, Owo killed while Osinbajo is there and he couldnt stop it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 9:04pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


Some people will always be displeased in any and every choice, Even if you choose Adeboye and Matthew Kukah as president and Vice, Catholic church will have something to complain about

There was a place in the SE where they are homogeneous Christians that protested about bringing a Catholic priest from Anambra state to head a diocese in Imo. Archbishop Okpaleke you can search him

Celestial church the court cases following the death of their leader many decades ago is still on.

People will always complain. Its left to you to decide whether you want to win or appease people who wont wont for you regardless
Exactly. You can't tell APC to tie one hand behind the back to make the fight fair. That is not how it works. They have to focus on winning and not in pandering to the zone of voters that still would not have voted for them. It makes no sense.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:07pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


If APC pick who is the most popular pastor in the SE as VP to Tinubu the SE still wont vote him.

If APC pick Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, they won't still win in South East.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:10pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


If all you are saying is true which I believe it is, How has Osinbajo being a VP and a Pastor addressed it?

If things can be this bad despite having both religions on every ticket since 1999, then why are we saying having both religions on the ticket will fix the problems

If u agree things are bad with a pastor VP, what do u think will happen with a Muslim-Muslim President and VP? Things will only get worse from here. More Hijab wearing women will be killed in the east, more clashes in the north between adherents of the two major religions ( which of course will lead to more Loss of lives), more hijab wars like u had in Kwara state where a mission owned school was closed cos of hijab issues with Muslim students, etc.

I am hoping things don't go that bad. It's when people are living at peace they can have eyes to see front concerning development strides of government of the day.

Just because some people belive there's a fulanisation agenda, look at what is happening in Benue state. Even the government believes in such agenda and there's even been call for government allowing people to buy guns to defend themselves. Just imagine states like Benue under a Muslim-Muslim presidency, people will not even defer to FG for any reassurance of security, they will just resort to self help and things will get awry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:11pm On Jul 05, 2022
Android17:
Exactly. You can't tell APC to tie one hand behind the back to make the fight fair. That is not how it works. They have to focus on winning and not in pandering to the zone of voters that still would not have voted for them. It makes no sense.

PDP went ahead and gave Atiku a Northerner the ticket and threw away all zoning because they wanted to win. They are not caring whether it will mean 16yrs of straight Northern rule but somehow you want APC to put itself at a disadvantage to please some people

The same way you can demarket APC with Moslem-Moslem, APC will also demarket PDP with Northerner after Buhari

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emmynator(m): 9:11pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


Everyone's oratory prowess will reduce with sickness or with age.

His logic was in addressing insecurity we are underpoliced, we need more people in the military, Many youths are willing to join the military but to be succesful in joining has been made similar to making paradise

Hire more willing youths in the military, 1, you reduce the amount of unemployed youths on the streets 2, you have increased capacity to secure the country

And what these new 50K military guys will eat? Thats minor and he proceeded to mention the 2 food items most common all over the country that can grow in almost any conditions cassava and corn

Anyone serious about insecurity will see how it ties to unemployment and how you can solve both at once
It is an entirely different video I am talking of. He was talking of farmers in the one I am talking of.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:14pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:


If u agree things are bad with a pastor VP, what do u think will happen with a Muslim-Muslim President and VP? Things will only get worse from here. More Hijab wearing women will be killed in the east, more clashes in the north between adherents of the two major religions ( which of course will lead to more Loss of lives), more hijab wars like u had in Kwara state where a mission owned school was closed cos of hijab issues with Muslim students, etc.

I am hoping things don't go that bad. It's when people are living at peace they can have eyes to see front concerning development strides of government of the day.

Just because some people belive there's a fulanisation agenda, look at what is happening in Benue state. Even the government believes in such agenda and there's even been call for government allowing people to buy guns to defend themselves. Just imagine states like Benue under a Muslim-Muslim presidency, people will not even defer to FG for any reassurance of security, they will just resort to self help and things will get awry

... for what exactly? This is why I said we are all extremists, both Northerners and Southerners. Apparently we are only fooling around cos we genuinely don't want Nigeria fixed.

As raumdeuter said, we've been practising Muslim/Christian Leadership and vice versa since after Buhari/Idiagbon, yet Nigeria is getting worse.

What happens to experimenting Muslim/Muslim or Christian/Christian? Afterall we nearly had it in 1993.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:14pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:


If u agree things are bad with a pastor VP, what do u think will happen with a Muslim-Muslim President and VP? Things will only get worse from here. More Hijab wearing women will be killed in the east, more clashes in the north between adherents of the two major religions ( which of course will lead to more Loss of lives), more hijab wars like u had in Kwara state where a mission owned school was closed cos of hijab issues with Muslim students, etc.

I am hoping things don't go that bad. It's when people are living at peace they can have eyes to see front concerning development strides of government of the day.

Just because some people belive there's a fulanisation agenda, look at what is happening in Benue state. Even the government believes in such agenda and there's even been call for government allowing people to buy guns to defend themselves. Just imagine states like Benue under a Muslim-Muslim presidency, people will not even defer to FG for any reassurance of security, they will just resort to self help and things will get awry

Its already bad and putting another Moslem-Christian there wont make it better just the same way it didnt make it better for the previous 40yrs but progressively worse

Maybe if we try something different, boost the economy, get people back to working, increasing the size of our security forces by recruiting 50K willing youths all over we would reduce all these instead of just putting ticket of Alhaji Bako and Pastor Emeka all the time
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TheRareGem1(f): 9:15pm On Jul 05, 2022
Oasis007:


I guess PMB/PYO ain't a disaster as you Guys are claiming?!

I guess it wasn't wrong when Oyinlola/Erelu ruled Osun State for 7yrs?

I don't understand what Religion has to do with Leadership. How is it gonna improve economy and living standards of Everyone?!

Buhari is a devoted Muslim, Osinbajo is a Pastor, how has the Combo helped to fix challenges in the Country?!
Peter Obi is an economist, a business man, did he turn Anambra to Dubai? He said he didn't borrow kobo when he was governor but the report from DMO said otherwise...

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:17pm On Jul 05, 2022
TheRareGem1:

Peter Obi is an economist, a business man, did he turn Anambra to Dubai? He said he didn't borrow kobo when he was governor but the report from DMO said otherwise...

grin

A Businessman? yes and a successful one. An Economist? Nope, he's a Philosopher with 3rd Class Degree.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:19pm On Jul 05, 2022
TheRareGem1:

Peter Obi is an economist, a business man, did he turn Anambra to Dubai? He said he didn't borrow kobo when he was governor but the report from DMO said otherwise...

If Soludo is talking, I will listen and take notes because he went to school for it and has actually done practical things that worked in the Nigerian economy

Not this liar. Every day a new Obi lie gets bursted

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:23pm On Jul 05, 2022
Oasis007:


... for what exactly? This is why I said we are all extremists, both Northerners and Southerners. Apparently we are only fooling around cos we genuinely don't want Nigeria fixed.

As raumdeuter said, we've been practising Muslim/Christian Leadership and vice versa since after Buhari/Idiagbon, yet Nigeria is getting worse.

What happens to experimenting Muslim/Muslim or Christian/Christian? Afterall we nearly had it in 1993.
How? If u confirm there are religious issues wile there's a Muslim-Christian presidency, u should know things will only get ugly with a Muslim-Muslim or Christian-Christian presidency. It's pure logic.

This is not an academic exercise, we are talking about the lives of human beings like us being lost.

Just look at how Fulanis that used to be normal herders living peacefully with their hosts have suddenly gone military immediately their man became president.

I'd we still wan keep the remaining peace wey dey this country make we no go that same religion Presidency route.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:28pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:

How? If u confirm there are religious issues wile there's a Muslim-Christian presidency, u should know things will only get ugly with a Muslim-Muslim or Christian-Christian presidency. It's pure logic.

This is not an academic exercise, we are talking about the lives of human beings like us being lost.

Just look at how Fulanis that used to be normal herders living peacefully with their hosts have suddenly gone military immediately their man became president.

I'd we still wan keep the remaining peace wey dey this country make we no go that same religion Presidency route.

Perhaps it'll hasten disintegration of Nigeria. Already tired of one Nigeria ish, it has never worked and obviously it won't work with that kinda mentality.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:29pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:

How? If u confirm there are religious issues wile there's a Muslim-Christian presidency, u should know things will only get ugly with a Muslim-Muslim or Christian-Christian presidency. It's pure logic.

This is not an academic exercise, we are talking about the lives of human beings like us being lost.

Just look at how Fulanis that used to be normal herders living peacefully with their hosts have suddenly gone military immediately their man became president.

I'd we still wan keep the remaining peace wey dey this country make we no go that same religion Presidency route.

This has been happening even before Buhari became president. Just go on google and type "Fulani attack Benue community" or plateau community and put any year 2011, 2012, 2013, 2009 you will see results which shows that the Fulani issue predated Buhari and even if Buhari leaves and we have 2 men from Bayelsa as President and VP Fulani problem will still persist until the root is addressed and not sentimental window dressing

Example of such searches https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-22528257
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:31pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


Its already bad and putting another Moslem-Christian there wont make it better just the same way it didnt make it better for the previous 40yrs but progressively worse

Maybe if we try something different, boost the economy, get people back to working, increasing the size of our security forces by recruiting 50K willing youths all over we would reduce all these instead of just putting ticket of Alhaji Bako and Pastor Emeka all the time

But a Muslim-Muslim ticket can make things worse surely. That's my point.

People like us wey fit discuss like this in a civil way despite coming from different tribes and religions no plenty like that for this country.

The other day Don J was talking about Prophet Mohammed after the lady that was burnt to death for blasphemy, I know a lot of places he would've got lynched with the paedophile word he kept using. That's to tell u how religiously tensed this country is.

I've seen and discussed with victims of religious crises and u can tell they won't support any same religious government. Things like that leads to people sabotaging government efforts
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:37pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


This has been happening even before Buhari became president. Just go on google and type "Fulani attack Benue community" or plateau community and put any year 2011, 2012, 2013, 2009 you will see results which shows that the Fulani issue predated Buhari and even if Buhari leaves and we have 2 men from Bayelsa as President and VP Fulani problem will still persist until the root is addressed and not sentimental window dressing

Example of such searches https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-22528257

The issues predated Buhari but it's gotten worse, that's why I said they got Bolder and gone full military. Nobody was talking about Fulani militia using automatic weapons, helicopters seen dropping supplies and a munitions for them, Fulani militia kidnapping and trading victims for ransom, etc.

The recently kidnapped Methodist prelate had some things to really say about them and how they are claiming to own Nigeria now.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:45pm On Jul 05, 2022
..... jez incase.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:48pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:


The issues predated Buhari but it's gotten worse, that's why I said they got Bolder and gone full military. Nobody was talking about Fulani militia using automatic weapons, helicopters seen dropping supplies and a munitions for them, Fulani militia kidnapping and trading victims for ransom, etc.

The recently kidnapped Methodist prelate had some things to really say about them and how they are claiming to own Nigeria now.

here are many things fueling this Fulani herdsmen thing and it goes beyond Buhari but propaganda is why people want to hang it on Buhari. Buhari will leave and we will see if this will stop

Search on google "Fulani attack Ghana village" and you will see many articles dating back to over 10yrs ago. Is this about Buhari also?

In the last 10yrs there are many things happening in the West African subregion starting from coups, guerilla warfares and Libyan crisis which has made a lot of sophisticated weapons released into the space. After fighting the initial war, these people wont just become born again and submit the guns. They have sophisticated weaponry and nothing to do to make money. They will enter anywhere and commit crimes

For example if war dey Burkina Faso, Some people bought ammunition for the war, after the war finish, what happens to the ammunitions? They will certainly look for where easy trget dey
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 9:50pm On Jul 05, 2022
Guess he indeed wants a better Nigeria? This is Somebody who has Nationalities of other African Countries and beyond following him on Twitter and Instagram.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 10:14pm On Jul 05, 2022
Oasis007:


Fúck MURIC, Fúck CAN, Fúck all fuckin persons that so much carrying Religion on their empty heads like gala.

Where has the fúckin Religions take us in Africa? Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca as an Arab. Jesus Christ was born Jerusalem as a Hebrew..... none was born in Africa.

Colonial Masters brought Christianity to Nigeria, same fúckin Masters that sold our great grandfathers to slavery. Stole our Artefacts. Destroy our Cultures, Beliefs and Ways of Lives.


Usman Dan Fodio spread Islam to South West Nigeria through Battles. He was stopped at Osogbo but it was too late already. Malians actually brought Islam to North via Trading.

So why the Fuss?! Must we kill ourselves over Religions always? Instead of focusing on the pressing Challenges, we are more concerned about Religions.

We ain't ready to fix Nigeria.
this your fix fix and fix dey make me laugh..

just incase you taught Mr agbado was joking b4..just check another of his interview but this time he tried cos he added ewa for protei

This man is senile

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlhajiEmzo27/status/1544326715127865347
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 10:15pm On Jul 05, 2022
Segedinho:

this your fix fix and fix dey make me laugh..

just incase you taught Mr agbado was joking b4..just check another of his interview but this time he tried cos he added ewa for protei

This man is senile

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlhajiEmzo27/status/1544326715127865347

Ok
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 10:23pm On Jul 05, 2022
Oasis007:
Guess he indeed wants a better Nigeria? This is Somebody who has Nationalities of other African Countries and beyond following him on Twitter and Instagram.
Where is the lie??
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:33pm On Jul 05, 2022
Bandits attack Buhari's convoy.

https://www.nairaland.com/7213315/bandits-attack-president-buharis-convoy

At least we can all see that Security situation actually got worse under the man to the extent he can't even travel to his own village in peace
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:40pm On Jul 05, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Bandits attack Buhari's convoy.

https://www.nairaland.com/7213315/bandits-attack-president-buharis-convoy

At least we can all see that Security situation actually got worse under the man to the extent he can't even travel to his own village in peace

These are likely Fulani guys probably Moslems too attacking the convoy of a President who is Fulani Moslem as well
This is why using simplistic terms to describe the situation e.g Buhari emboldened Fulani does not make sense

There is more to the increased attacks than just the religion of the president or the Vice president

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Griffon: 10:42pm On Jul 05, 2022
raumdeuter:


These are likely Fulani guys probably Moslems too attacking the convoy of a President who is Fulani Moslem as well
This is why using simplistic terms to describe the situation e.g Buhari emboldened Fulani does not make sense

There is more to the increased attacks than just the religion of the president or the Vice president

Is this you making excuses for terrorism under the watch of a man who vowed to end it?

How do you spell incompetence?

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