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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
achorladey:Bro I don't know if you've experienced it before, if you see the way this people behave if you try to show that a particular thing is not in order they can tear you to pieces. They'll be like "do you know more than the governing body"?........then they start acting differently towards you. Question a particular motion the first question will be "Have you started visiting apostate websites"? I wouldn't have check the apostate website it is the organization that pushed me, they force me to check it, cus they're always hammering on how apostates are mentally diseased and telling half-truths. So I thought if this apostates are being mentioned every now and then, why not check them out, atleast in their half-truths they might have some truth....like the always say in every nonsense there is sense. My dad thought he was doing me good when he use to say how wicked Raymond Franz was and how he became an OG apostate, even mentioning his book COC as trash.....that was the greatest mistake my dad made and it was rather a blessing in disguise ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() From COC I migrated to I.S.CHRISTIAN FREEDOM then to Gentile times reconsidered, then came Boerean Pickets, Captives of a Concept and APOSTLES OF DENIAL. It was a long journey of awakening, still waiting to leave home so that I can change from PIMO TO POMO "Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is true freedom" 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Nobody: 12:30pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
achorladey:Organized religion na major scam ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 12:35pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: Yes. I partially watched yesterday's convention because there is no way I can sit down and watch their nonsense Programming videos. The videos were filled with Mind control programming tactics to appeal to the emotions of JWs. It was almost as if my brain cells were going missing one by one listening to them talk. God Forbid! I just don't know how JWs do it listening to their rubbish! ![]() ![]() Watchtower is still part of the UN secretly if you know where to look. They are members of a Political Organisation OSCE. They are also into Politics. They sponsored a US Senator's election and tried to get rid of evidence when they got caught. Even a Bethel Elder confirmed it that they are into Politics. As a Billion dollar Corporation, Watchtower does absolutely no charity acts for JWs when they are in need even though they are registered as an NGO/Charity. Scam! 1 Like
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 12:56pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: Now this is the part that didn't make sense to me even as a JW. I remember those days during meetings they will talk about resigning from a job or leaving a high paying job in order to come and work for free for Watchtower or pioneer. Even as a JW, I never agreed with this nonsense! I believe JWs, especially Nigerian ones, know deep within their hearts that this teaching is Rubbish and totally out of touch of reality. They know they can never agree with Watchtower on this. But it is heartbreaking to see that Watchtower was simply showing its Narcissistic tendencies by promoting that rubbish. I think anyone telling you to resign from a job or leave a high paying job in this Hard economy in order to do more for him/her doesn't wish you well in life. Just look at how this kind of advice is capable of destroying your life for good and rendering you Useless. Watchtower is promoting extreme poverty and glamorising it as a way to worship God. Because Watchtower Is a Narcissist, they don't necessarily follow their own advice to JWs because they are a Billion dollar Corporation. Billion Dollar! You are this rich, governing body is living in very well furnished apartments with Spa, Gym, etc, you are wearing Nice Suits, you have servants tending to your needs, you have cooks, you have drivers, you even have body guards, you are wearing expensive watches, all the voluntary donations go to your pocket, you have a very big Real Estate business that sell for Millions, you sell kingdom halls for Millions of dollars, you have investments in very big Corporations, even questionable ones (P@rn, Millitary weapons and Warfare, Movies, Cigarette, etc) that you will disfellowship JWs for and yet you are Preaching to JWs to live a life of poverty just so that they can give you free labor that makes you rich! It is only a big fool who doesn't deserve to live that will follow this dangerous advice from Watchtower the same way JWs listened to them in 1975 when they said the world would end at that time. Do you know what it means to sell your homes, leave your jobs, stop child bearing, sell all your investments just because a group of Charlatans told you that the world will end soon so therefore, you should sell everything and prepare for it? I watched a video of a group of JWs protesting in front of Watchtower headquarters because they believed them and forgone everything and plans they had. I felt pity for them. But I will feel no pity for JWs who choose to listen to these Frauds when extreme poverty has come to stay. And do you know a recent development? Watchtower asked Elders in a July Elders letter, to keep a separate Contribution box in their Kingdom halls for JWs to contribute money for their Ramapo Media Center project! These people are greedy! And they give nothing to JWs in return! Oh, JWs are Stupid! ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:27pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
GoodIsGod: Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, fraudulent yet able to produce the best network of evangelizers in the world! It reminds me of the word of a first century wise Jew: "A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit". Matthew 7:18 |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 1:32pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Best network of evangelizers in world teaching heresies upadan. Seeing themselves as the only righteous. And of course the 144,000 going to heaven are only from them. Clowns ![]() Pls don't make laugh with your day dreaming. 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:39pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
GoodIsGod: Below is what Jesus meant to establish on this planet, please tell me the organization or group that's meeting up with this because Jesus said: "A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit". Matthew 7:18 How laughable are all those not meeting up with this yet arguing with the one and only group doing God's will on planet earth today? Matthew 7:21-23 May you have PEACE! ![]() MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 4:46pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Courz: Plan your future like the Governing body. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Na person wey sabi go understand. Tear down the old store and houses and build news ones great tribulations and armageddon is just around the unending corner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 4:57pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: Instead of the organized religion serving those people who set it up. The people who set it up became SLAVES to it and not only SLAVES, the organized religion eventually KILL them one by one. ![]() ![]() ![]() It is either one Servants of the Spirit or the Prisoners of the organization. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 6:14pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
GoodIsGod: You don't have the reasoning of your own. You are like robots in the hands of watchtower.Do you have the reasoning of your own or you believe in the pagan doctrines of the Roman Catholics? Like did Jesus and the early apostles filled with the holy spirit teach or believe in the trinity? Your like robots in the hands of the Roman Catholics ![]() ![]() Here's the simple questions I asked in my previous post; Where did KJV get their 1 John 5 verse 7 from? 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:17pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23 Surely the man who said this word above need to explain what he had in mind if not ORGANIZED RELIGION! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 6:18pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
achorladey: Did you know that Watchtower made lots of money during that 1975 False prophecy? Do you know that the Governing body and their Freemason brethren, the anointed, laugh at JWs when they cook up False prophecies? They laugh at JWs for believing them. Even Governing body member Tony Morris blamed JWs for believing them and taking their words seriously. Imagine that! He said he never believed it. Na JWs I dey laugh o. If a Governing body member can say that what they tell JWs are lies and that they shouldn't take their words seriously then JWs deserve the Scam Watchtower is pulling on them. The many JWs that left the Cult after The 1975 false prophecy did well and were among the wisest of all JWs apart from those that left around 1914 and 1925. The current JWs now are the Foolish ones especially those ones that were there during 1975. I heard that Watchtower is waiting for the generation of 1975 to die off so that they can repeat another False Prophecy. If that is true, it would be fun to watch JWs in their foolishness again. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 6:19pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
achorladey:Where did KJV get their 1 John 5 verse 7 from? |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 6:29pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
cornelboy: Brainwashed Watchtower Zombie. You have been programed by your operators at New York to believe that anyone who is not a Jehovah's Witness that is a Christian has same beliefs with every other person that calls themselves a Christian. It is true many are not christians that call themselves christians and many have wrong doctrines but a functional brain that is not remotely controlled by a group of persons would not group everyone that is not a member of their weird association together. In a nutshell, you don't know my beliefs as a Christian. So, don't make conclusions foolishly. Sorry for the word "foolishly " it's not meant to insult you though. 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 6:34pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
GoodIsGod:Brainwashed Roman Catholic trinitarian zombie ![]() You've been programmed to believe that 1+1+1=1 That's the highest level of brainwashing I have seen in my life ![]() If your not a JW, what denomination do you belong then? And what are your beliefs ![]() |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
cornelboy: The problem with most pagans claiming Christians is that they don't think deeply before talking. Throughout the world the one and only group practicing what Jesus laid down is the WATCHTOWER. Jesus taught his followers and sent them to go and meet people in their individual abode! WHY? Because only fully competent and completely equipped students can reason confidently with others as they preach and teach what their teacher taught them. Before Jesus of Nazareth all the prophets sent to God's people do is shouting in the streets because their audience already know all the laws of the God they're talking about so it's a matter of whether you're ready to live by the laws or not. But when Jesus arrived he set commissioned house to house preaching and teaching because he's preparing his disciples for the work both in Israel and outside Israel as in to the most distant part of the earth where most people don't even know the laws of the God of Israel! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8 So if a religionist whose religion doesn't teach him to go and face people in their homes where questions will be asked now look at JWs and say "they are robots" please do you think such a person know the meaning of ROBOT? Robots can't competently defend faith without it's teacher around like true Christians does but then everyone will know that this must be a student of skilled teachers! Act 4:13 They only go to streets {Matthew 12:19} spewing gibberish the Roman Catholic infused in their heads "Hell is real, Heaven is real" but can they stand before scrutiny? Well they can't that's why they're baffled seeing JWs competently preaching and teaching with zeal about what Jesus ordered us to teach: God's Kingdom! Luke 4:43 So who are those soldiers working with the Christ {Psalms 110:3} without physical weapons but using spiritual sword? Luke 22:36 compare to Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12 Please a round of applause for the one and only organization that has successfully gathered millions of people throughout the world and made them zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word without material gain but love for God! Matthew 6:19-33 Is it not the same kinds of people living in their midst that the WATCHTOWER has taught and equipped to be effective disciples of Christ? YES, let them continue sinning against God's Holy Spirit that's producing the fruitage of FAITH in the midst of imperfect humans globally, Jehovah's Witnesses are supposed to be rebels like them arguing bitterly against orderliness but we chose not to. WHY? Because we have conscience we don't want to sin against God's Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31-32 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
cornelboy:Anyone who disagree with the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is on the other road! Their leaders taught contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines they can't defend efficiently unlike our own teacher who taught us with authority {Matthew 7:28-29} so all what they want to tell one another is "respect what my teacher taught me even though it contradicts what your teacher taught you, we are brothers in the lord" Please who is that kind of lord they're calling upon if not the other guy? 2Corinthians 4:4 That's why they can all see the one and only group where all members must follow just one lane! Matthew 7:13-14 compare to John 17:22 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 7:15pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol....is it today you've been examining the difference between Watchtower demonic organization and Christianity? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I can see the positive results as your god's active force told you I'm OLAADEGBU and johnw47 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 7:19pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
cornelboy: You called someone a "Roman Catholic Trinitarian" yet you still ask which DENOMINATION he belong? Na wa ooooo See the level of damage Watchtower has caused in your life ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan: OLAADEGBU! ![]() Positive result is what the whole world is seeing Sir {Matthew 5:14-16} not what you are arguing with MaxInDHouse on Nairaland! And Jesus never commissioned a religion where 41,000 different sects will be claiming they're all his followers yet having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines otherwise he won't pray to his father for his followers to have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} so stop deceiving yourself there is nothing called Christians where you don't have the same line of thought with others! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 7:25pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: JaNosenses has started his rumbling and mumbo jumbo ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() "Repent for God's kingdom is at hand" isn't the message of watchtower but battle of Armageddon, the end of CHRISTENDOM, the great Babylonia fall e.t.c yet none of these has happened according to the lying organization. Stop lying JaNosenses. Jesus warned us ahead of your false prophets. 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 7:33pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Keep it up Positive result is what the whole world is seeing Sir {Matthew 5:14-16} not what you are arguing with MaxInDHouse on Nairaland! Of course, we can see and that's the reason we have more fruits than your demonic organization as Jesus said in John 15:2 And Jesus never commissioned a religion where 41,000 different sects will be claiming they're all his followers yet having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines Your demonic organization is part of that 41,000 sects don't forget. otherwise he won't pray to his father for his followers to have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} The same line of thought, yet JWs can kill another JWs. A JWs family can refuse her daughter to marry another JWs brother ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Not even that from your own mouth on this forum you vomit that they're many churchgoers among JWs too ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() so stop deceiving yourself there is nothing called Christians where you don't have the same line of thought with others! Of course, I know who is deceiving himself when in reality majority of JWs only put on fake smile at the hall but back on individual's life the story is different. So when you're done deceiving yourself you'll receive sense at last ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Go and check the original Greek of that passage the correct word is "in" not "union". "Union" is a paraphrase not a translation Away from that how is that passage connected with ORGANIZATION? 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 8:51pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
cornelboy: Guy you are still swimming in the ocean of ignorance. I am a Christian Yes,I am. But did I tell you I am a Catholic? Why should you rant and conclude I am. This is the wrong notion that you all were trained with by Watchtower. You group everyone that is not a member of your sect together as one. It is pride and holier than thou attitude that is the virus that has eaten deep into you. You believe every one that calls himself or herself a Christian belongs to the same church or denomination. I have come to understand that engaging a Jehovah's witness in argument is a mere waste of time and energy. So I might not respond to you anymore. Lack of the freedom to think individually is your problem. Watchtower is still holding the remote. It's So sad. ![]() Sorry, Ive got better things to do. 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:53pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre:LIAR, continue deceiving yourself. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 9:00pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: Why you continue your Watchtower brainwashing! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:08pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre:LIAR continue in your folly. in ἐν (en) Preposition Strong's 1722: In, on, among. People wey know Greek confirm "Union" is accurate and acceptable at John 17:20-13. Ordeh!!
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 9:26pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: This hypocrite, see him saying "people wet KNOW GREEK..." So you agreed that Ellicott's knows Greek. So why did take NWT translation of John 1:1 above the same Ellicott that knows GREEK? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hypocrite JWs! 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:44pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
cornelboy: My issue is not where KJV get 1 John 5 verse 7. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:48pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Courz: Plan your future like the Governing body. Na person wey sabi go know. Tear down old store houses like Brooklyn height and build news ones Walkill Tuxedo Ramapo Great tribulations and armageddon is around the unending corner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:51pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan: The other one goes about calling KJV the worst translations yet goes about reading the SAME cited bible verses from KJV in his darling watchtower magazine when his darling religious leaders used the same KJV to buttress their LIGHTS getting brighter leading to BLINDING LIGHTS ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:52pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan:@ John 17:21-23, did Ellicott, your fellow 3 deities devotees agree with you? In the screenshot Did Trinitarian Greek scholar agree with Ellicott @ John 1:1? Oga, continue in your folly. Azen dan !!!!!
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