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Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Kobojunkie: 7:04pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Hostkene:1. This isn't about me but about you not being satisified with that said by Jesus Christ, the one who is the Truth of God - John 14 vs 6. 2. They are soothsayers and psychics. Pastors using tricks used by soothsayers doesn't then mean pastors and soothsayers are on the same level at all. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:12pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. The Bible verse you quoted does not relate to Jesus not giving pastors gift of vision. Out of point. 2. So what's your point?? You said the prophecies are lies... You suggested me to visit the soothsayers instead. Yet you said both are using the same tricks but why do you call those soothsayers in pastors disguise liers? ... I'm confused, explain. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Kobojunkie: 7:15pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Hostkene:1. There is no special bible verse for your pastors. Jesus Christ gave to all of His followers the same powers, so your pastors who claim to have different powers do so besides Jesus Christ, as I already more than explained at this point in the discourse. 2. My point is to go to the source to find the answers you seek. These ideas are pagan and the psychics and soothsayers are better resources as far as digging down to the answers you seek. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:17pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. We had propehts during the time of Jesus in the Bible whom Jesus spoke through to us. 2. You detailed the prophecy my frnd received from different pastors as lies to chop money from him. You said those prophets are copying the tricks from soothsayers and according to you, you suggested soothsayers to me as a good source. Have you forgotten different pastors said the same thing, so how then are the prophecies lies? You are way speaking off track man |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:19pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Who claimed my pastors has different powers? Or I just mentioned that the pastor gave him a propehcy?? 2. Go to which source Soothsayers will digg to give me answers I seek... But it was you who said that those prophecies they give are lies so as to rip you money? |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:20pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Jesus gave all of them same powers, but I mentioned that different pastors were giving the same exact propehcy... What are the different powers here Bro no offense? Are you high or feeling sleepy? |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Hostkene:1. So, you say it is a gift and not power. Well, according to Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit will take from that which belongs to Him to give His followers meaning that even the sight they see will have to do with the theme that is the Kingdom of God, which Jesus Christ is about. In Luke 9 vs 27 and Matthew 16 vs 28, we read that those who have Jesus Christ will even see visions of Jesus Christ coming in His glory. However, there is no mention of the Holy Spirit giving followers of Jesus Christ the ability to peer into people's private lives. 2. Again, I said they were lies from pastors who were themselves proclaimed liars by Jesus Christ - John 16 vs 1 - 16 and Ezekizel 34 vs 1 - 16. 3. Again, for the umpteenth time, the prophets are liars aka false prophets and false teachers Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of. And so, their claims are lies. If what you seek are pagan ideas such as those, then seek out the pagan experts in such things instead. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Kobojunkie: 7:35pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Hostkene:1. Jesus Christ did not give anyone power to peer into the private lives of individuals, or for any individual gain. Different pastors telling you the same thing, that has absolutely nothing to do with what Jesus Christ called them for or gave them permission to do in His name does not change the fact that what these men did has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, to begin with. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by OneCandleAway(f): 7:39pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: This conversation is getting tiring. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:49pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Your Bible verse still has nothing to do with what you said - you said Jesus never paired any form of power to his followers. What's the difference between gift and power? Provide a Bible verse which explains that. 2. I only mentioned that my frnd got same prophecy from different pastors... Pastors proclamation and liars... What does it have to do with that my frnd got a prophecy from different pastors Which you said were all lies and coincidence. 3. You still haven't answered me why you suggested soothsayers to me and still said that pastor's are using soothsayers tricks, yet you claim that the prophecy my friend got from a pastor is false This are the things I need answers to, not quoting out of point. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:51pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:For different pastors who has the gift of vision to give you a warning that this or that was going to happen Where did they get the power from?? And why do differently pastors who has Same gift keeps telling you the same thing everywhere you go Speak on point |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 7:51pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OneCandleAway: He is beating around, still yet to give an answer to what he said were lies. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Kobojunkie: 7:55pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Hostkene:It seems you want answers tailored to your ear in this but I am afraid those answers are not going to come from me in this. I have told you all I can regarding these things. It is up to you to then decide what God you serve and how to move forward from there. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 8:00pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: You doubted the prophecy which my frnd got. He is dead, you still tagged it as "coincidence" You said I should visit babalawo or soothsayers for the detailed truth, Yet you said that pastors uses the same trick as soothsayers which means that the prophecy was true? Since you believe in soothsayers? Then why were you saying that the prophecy he got from different pastors are lies Even when it has happened clearly?? Seems like you're confused or maybe refusing to admit what you know. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by oaroloye(m): 1:17am On Jul 13, 2022 |
MISHIGAS! Kobojunkie: THE REAL "FAKES" ARE THOSE FOOLS WHO THINK THAT THEY CAN AND SHOULD HIRE ANOTHER HUMAN BEING TO INTERFACE WITH GOD FOR THEM- BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF EVER DOING SO THEMSELVES. . MATTHEW 23:1-15. THEN Spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples, 2. Saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts, and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues, 7. "And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.' 8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:' for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are Brethren. 9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth: for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven. 10. "Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11. "But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13. "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! For ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation. 15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites! for ye compass Sea and Land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more The Child of Hell than yourselves." . LUKE 16:1-15. AND he Said also unto his Disciples, "There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. 2. "And he called him, and said unto him, 'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.' 3. "Then the steward said within himself, 'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG, TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.' 5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first, 'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?' 6. "And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.' And he said unto him, 'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.' 7. "Then said he to another, 'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?' And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.' And he said unto him, 'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.' 8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I Say unto you, 'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.' 10. "He that is Faithful in that which is Least is Faithful also in Much: and he that is Unjust in the Least is Unjust also in Much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches? 12. "And if ye have not been Faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? 13. "No Servant can serve two Masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon." 14. And the Pharisees also, who were Covetous, heard all these things, and they derided him. 15. And he Said unto them, "Ye are they which justify yourselves before Men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is Highly Esteemed amongst Men is Abomination in The Sight of God." Hostkene: ATHEISTS INVARIABLY EXPLAIN TESTIMONIES OF THE SUPERNATURAL AS DELUSIONS AND LIES. Hostkene: LOSSES ARE INEVITABLE SINCE OUR PARENTS CONSENTED TO LET SATAN AND THE EARTH HAVE DOMINION OVER US. . GENESIS 1:26-28. 26. And God Said, "Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness: and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle, and over all the Earth, and over every Creeping Thing that Creepeth upon the Earth. 27. So God created Man in His Own Image, in The Image of God created He him; male and female created He them. 28. And God Blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue It: and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over every Living Thing that moveth upon the Earth.” Hostkene: ATHEISTS BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE- AND THINK THAT THAT IS "FREEDOM." . MATTHEW 18:15-20. 15. "Moreover if thy Brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy Brother. 16. "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, 'THAT IN THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY WORD MAY BE ESTABLISHED.' 17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the Church: but if he neglect to hear the Church, let him be unto thee as an Heathen man and a Publican. 18. "Verily I Say unto you, 'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL BIND ON EARTH SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN: AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL LOOSE ON EARTH SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.' 19. "Again I Say unto you, 'THAT IF TWO OF YOU SHALL AGREE ON EARTH AS TOUCHING ANY THING THAT THEY SHALL ASK, IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.' 20. "For where two or three are gathered together in my Name, there am I in the midst of them." Kobojunkie: DESTINY IS CAUSED BY A DYNAMIC DETERMINING YOUR FATE- INSTEAD OF YOU CONTROLLING YOUR FUTURE. . DIANETICS AXIOMS. THE Source of Life is a static of peculiar and particular properties [A LIFE STATIC has no size, no shape, no mass, no temperature, no frequency, nor any other physical property.] 2. At least a portion of the static called life is impinged upon the Physical Universe. 3. That portion of the Static of Life which is impinged upon the Physical Universe has for its Dynamic Goal SURVIVAL and ONLY Survival. 4. The Physical Universe is reducible to motion of energy operating in Space through Time. 5. That portion of the Static of Life concerned with the Life Organisms of the Physical Universe is concerned WHOLLY with MOTION. 22. Theta and Thought are similar orders of static. 23. All Thought is concerned with Motion. 26. Thought is accomplished by Theta Facsimiles of Physical Universe, Entities or Actions. 99. Theta Facsimiles can recombine into new symbols. 100. Language is the symbolization of effort. 101. Language depends for its force upon the force which accompanied its definition. [Note: Counter-effort, not language, is aberrative.] 109. Behavior is modified by Counter-Efforts which have impinged on the Organism. 115. SELF-DETERMINISM is the Theta Control of the Organism. 116. A SELF-DETERMINED EFFORT is that Counter-Effort which has been received into the Organism in the Past and integrated into the organism for its Conscious Use. 119. Agreement with any Source, contra- or pro-survival, postulates a New Reality for the organism. 120. Non-Survival Courses, Thoughts and Actions require Non-Optimum Effort. 121. Every Thought has been preceded by Physical Action. 122. The Mind does with Thought as it has done with entities in the Physical Universe. 127. All perceptions reaching the organism's sense channels are recorded and stored by Theta Facsimile. Definition: Perception is the process of recording data from the Physical Universe and storing it as a Theta Facsimile. Definition: Recall is the process of regaining Perceptions. 128. Any organism can recall everything which it has perceived. . THE EIGHT DYNAMICS: 1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND; 5. ALL LIVING THINGS; 6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time - i.e. PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD. . THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE. 1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING. . THE EIGHT LEVELS OF LIFE FORCE. 1. ALPHA, the 7th Heaven. 2. BETA, the 6th Heaven. 3. GAMMA, the 5th Heaven. 4. DELTA, the 4th Heaven. 5. EPSILON, the 3rd Heaven. 6. ZETA, the 2nd Heaven. 7. ETA, the 1st Heaven. 8. THETA, the Earth Universe. [See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard (1970).] . THE NINE TIME VECTORS. PAST to PAST; PAST to PRESENT; PAST to FUTURE. PRESENT to PAST; PRESENT to PRESENT; PRESENT to FUTURE. FUTURE to PAST; FUTURE to PRESENT; FUTURE to FUTURE. [See: EXCALIBUR REVISITED, by Geoffrey Filbert.] [/quote] Kobojunkie: YOUR MIND IS TOO WEAK TO HANDLE THE REALITY OF THE SPIRITUAL ABILITY TO CONTROL REALITY. Kobojunkie: IT WAS YOUR MOTHER'S JOB TO TEACH YOU HOW TO SEE THE FUTURE. Her deception is her own fault. She was the fraud. Hostkene: NOT ONE OF THOSE PASTORS EVER TAUGHT YOU HOW TO SEE VISIONS. oaroloye: Kobojunkie: ATHEISTS WILL TELL ANY LIES TO SUPPORT THEIR AGENDA. . JOHN 14:12. 12. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO;' and Greater (Works) than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." Hostkene: THE DEVILS FEED OFF OF FRUSTRATION, PAIN, AND DEATH- WITCHES CAN BE ORDERED TO CAUSE ANY OF THOSE IN EXCHANGE FOR UNNECESSARY DATA AND APPARENT POWERS. Kobojunkie: ATHEISTS TELL ANY LIES TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDAS. . JOHN 14:23-26. 23. Jesus Answered and Said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my Words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings: and The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. 25. "These things have I Spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But the Comforter, Which is The Holy Ghost, Whom The Father will send in my Name, He shall Teach you All Things, and bring All Things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have Said unto you." . JOHN 16:12-15. 12. "I have yet many things to Say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13. "Howbeit when He, The Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all Truth: for He shall not Speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you Things to come. 14. "He shall glorify me: for He shall receive of mine, and shall shew It unto you. 15. "All things that The Father hath are mine: therefore Said I, 'THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE, AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU.' " . ACTS 5:1-9. BUT a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2. And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the Apostles' feet. 3. But Peter said, "Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4. "Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? And after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? Thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God." 5. And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6. And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. 7. And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. 8. And Peter answered unto her, "Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much?" And she said, "Yea, for so much." 9. Then Peter said unto her, "How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt The Spirit of The Lord? Behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out." THIS TESTIMONY IS WELL-KNOWN: CEPHAS CLAIMED TO HAVE SEEN INTO THE PERSONAL LIVES OF TWO DISCIPLES. Which you claimed there was no record of. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Wilgrea7(m): 5:56am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: I'm really sorry about your friend. I had no idea he passed away. My condolences to you, and to his family. I'd rather not discuss the life of someone who just recently passed on nairaland like this But to kind of backpedal and address the main topic. The whole destiny thing doesn't really hold up. I've seen people that have been told the “death surrounding you" thing and survived. And people who did not. The truth of the matter is, everyday we live, is a day we don't die. I don't believe anyone can have death surrounding him in that sense. Anyone can meet unfortunate circumstances. You don't need an alleged prophet to tell you that. Once again, I'm really sorry about your friend. If there is an afterlife, i hope he finds peace in it |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by OtemAtum: 7:21am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: Sometimes your face carries your problems and people tell you things based on your facial expression. When I use to dress like pastor in those days, many people have told me that I will someday become a pastor. I knew of a guy whose face is like that of a clown and many people have told him he should become a comedian. Now he is a full time comedian and making waves. Everything on earth has waves. Your waves can sometimes be detected by anybody who has the gift of wave detecting, irrespective of whether they call themselves prophets, dibia or not. 1 Like |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by infini771: 7:34am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Most of the people that called themselves prophet are fake. They use diabolic powers. They can tell you the problem but cannot solve it. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by oaroloye(m): 8:10am On Jul 13, 2022 |
MISHIGAS! . GENESIS 1:26-28. 26. And God Said, "Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness: and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle, and over all the Earth, and over every Creeping Thing that Creepeth upon the Earth. 27. So God created Man in His Own Image, in The Image of God created He him; male and female created He them. 28. And God Blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue It: and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over every Living Thing that moveth upon the Earth.” GOD CREATED MAN TO HAVE DOMINION OVER THE EARTH AND ITS CREATURES. This implies the Power to DETERMINE THEIR FATE. . LEVITICUS 11:1-47. AND The LORD Spoke unto Moses and to Aaron, Saying unto them, 2. “Speak unto the Children of Israel, saying, 'THESE ARE THE BEASTS WHICH YE SHALL EAT AMONG ALL THE BEASTS THAT ARE ON THE EARTH.' 3. "Whatsoever parteth the hoof and is cloven-footed and cheweth the cud among the Beasts, that shall ye eat. 4. "Nevertheless these shall ye not eat, of those that chew the cud or of those that divide the hoof: the camel, because he cheweth the cud but divideth not the hoof, he is unclean unto you; 5. "And the coney, because he cheweth the cud but divideth not the hoof, he is unclean unto you; 6. "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud but divideth not the hoof, he is unclean unto you; 7. "And the swine, though he divide the hoof and is cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud, he is unclean to you. 8. "Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you." 9. "These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. 10. "And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: 11. "They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. 12. "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. 13. "And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the Fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the Eagle, and the Ossifrage, and the Ospray, 14. "And the Vulture, and the Kite after his kind; 15. "Every raven after his kind; 16. "And the Owl, and the Night Hawk, and the Cuckow, and the Hawk after his kind, 17. "And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl," 18. "And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, 19. "And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. 20. "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you. 21. "Yet these may ye eat of every flying Creeping Thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the Earth; 22. "Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind. 23. "But all other flying Creeping Things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you. 24. "And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the Even. 25. "And whosoever beareth ought of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the Even. 26. "The carcases of every Beast which divideth the hoof, and is not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, are unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean. 27. "And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of Beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the Even. 28. "And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the Even: they are unclean unto you. 29. "These also shall be unclean unto you among the Creeping Things that creep upon the Earth; the Weasel, and the Mouse, and the Tortoise after his kind, 30. "And the Ferret, and the Chameleon, and the Lizard, and the Snail, and the Mole. 31. "These are unclean to you among all that Creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the Even. 32. "And upon whatsoever any of them, when they are dead, doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether it be any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin, or sack, whatsoever vessel it be, wherein any work is done, it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the Even; so it shall be cleansed. 33. "And every earthen vessel, whereinto any of them falleth, whatsoever is in it shall be unclean; and ye shall break it. 34. "Of all meat which may be eaten, that on which such water cometh shall be unclean: and all drink that may be drunk in every such vessel shall be unclean. 35. "And every thing whereupon any part of their carcase falleth shall be unclean; whether it be oven, or ranges for pots, they shall be broken down: for they are unclean, and shall be unclean unto you. 36. "Nevertheless a fountain or pit, wherein there is plenty of water, shall be clean: but that which toucheth their carcase shall be unclean. 37. "And if any part of their carcase fall upon any sowing seed which is to be sown, it shall be clean. 38. "But if any water be put upon the seed, and any part of their carcase fall thereon, it shall be unclean unto you. 39. "And if any Beast, of which ye may eat, die; he that toucheth the carcase thereof shall be unclean until the Even. 40. "And he that eateth of the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the Even: he also that beareth the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the Even. 41. "And every Creeping Thing that creepeth upon the Earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten. 42. "Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all Creeping Things that creep upon the Earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination. 43. "Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any Creeping Thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby. 44. "For I am The LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am Holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of Creeping Thing that creepeth upon the Earth. 45. "For I am The LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am Holy. 46. "This is The Law of the Beasts, and of the Fowl, and of every Living Creature that moveth in the waters, and of every Creature that creepeth upon the Earth: 47. "To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the Beast that may be eaten and the Beast that may not be eaten." THERE ARE CREATURES WE SHOULD NOT WANT TO BE PART OF US. . THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 9:1-20. BUT why did Moses say "YE SHALL NOT EAT OF THE SWINE, NEITHER THE EAGLE NOR THE HAWK; NOR THE CROW; NOR ANY FISH THAT HAS NOT A SCALE UPON HIM?" answer, that in the spiritual sense, he comprehended three doctrines, that were to be gathered from thence. 2. Besides which he says to them in the Book of Deuteronomy, "AND I WILL GIVE MY STATUTES UNTO THIS PEOPLE." Wherefore it is not the Command of God that they should not eat these things; but Moses in The Spirit spake unto them. 3. Now the sow he forbade them to eat; meaning thus much; Thou shalt not join thyself to such persons as are like unto swine; who whilst they live in pleasure, forget their God; but when any want pinches them, then they know The LORD; as the sow when she is full knows not her master; but when she is hungry she makes a noise; and being again fed, is silent. 4. "NEITHER," says he, "SHALT THOU EAT THE EAGLE, NOR THE HAWK, NOR THE KITE, NOR THE CROW;" that is thou shalt not keep company with such kind of men as know not how by their labour and sweat to get themselves food: but injuriously ravish away the things of others; and watch how, to lay snares for them; when at the same time they appear to live in perfect innocence. 5. [So these birds alone seek not food for themselves, but] sitting idle seek how they may eat of the flesh others have provided; being destructive through their wickedness. 6. "NEITHER," says HE, "SHALT THOU EAT THE LAMPREY, NOR THE POLYPUS, NOR THE CUTTLE-FISH;" That is, thou shalt not be like such men, by using to converse with them; who are altogether wicked and adjudged to death. For so those Fishes are alone accursed, and wallow in the mire, nor swim as other fishes, but tumble in the dirt at the bottom of the deep. 7. "BUT" He adds, "NEITHER SHALT THOU EAT OF THE HARE." To what end?—To signify this to us; "THOU SHALT NOT BE AN ADULTERER; NOR LIKEN THYSELF TO SUCH PERSONS." For the Hare every year multiplies the places of its conception; and so many years as it lives, so many it has. [j]8. "NEITHER SHALT THOU EAT OF THE HYENA;"[/i] That is, again, be not an Adulterer, nor a corruptor of others; neither be like to such. And wherefore so? Because that creature every year changes its kind, and is sometimes male and sometimes female. 9. For which cause also he justly hated the Weasel; to the end that they should not be like such persons who with their mouths commit wickedness by reason of their uncleanness; nor join themselves with those impure women, who with their mouths commit wickedness. Because that animal conceives with its mouth. 10. Moses, therefore, speaking as concerning meats, delivered indeed three great precepts to them in the spiritual signification of those commands. But they according to the desires of the flesh, understood him as if he had only meant it of meats. 11. And therefore David took aright The Knowledge of His threefold Command, saying in like manner. 12. "BLESSED IS THE MAN THAT HATH NOT WALKED IN THE COUNSEL OF THE UNGODLY;" as the Fishes before mentioned in the bottom of the deep in Darkness. 13. "NOR STOOD IN THE WAY OF SINNERS," as they who seem to fear The LORD, but yet Sin, as the Sow. 14. "AND HATH NOT SAT IN THE SEAT OF THE SCORNERS;" as those Birds who sit and watch that they may devour. 15. Here you have The Law concerning meat perfectly set forth, and according to The True Knowledge of it. 16. "BUT," says Moses, "YE SHALL EAT ALL THAT DIVIDETH THE HOOF, AND CHEWETH THE CUD." Signifying thereby such an one as having taken his food, knows Him that nourisheth him; and resting upon Him, rejoiceth in Him. 17. And in this he spake well, having respect to The Commandment. What, therefore, is it that he says? —That we should hold fast to them that fear The Lord; with those who Meditate on The Command of the Word which they have received in their heart; with those that declare The Righteous Judgments of The LORD, and keep His Commandments; 18. In short, with those who know that to Meditate is a work of pleasure, and therefore exercise themselves in the Word of The LORD. 19. But why might they eat those that clave the hoof? —Because the Righteous liveth in this present World; but his expectation is fixed upon the other. See, Brethren, how admirably Moses commanded these things. 20. But how should we thus know all this, and understand it? We, therefore, understanding aright The Commandments, speak as The LORD would have us. Wherefore He has circumcised our ears and our hearts, that we might Know these Things. SINNERS ARE ON PAR WITH UNCLEAN ANIMALS. Those who behave like Animals can be controlled, dominated, and destroyed by those who behave like Holy Human Beings. Kobojunkie: YOU KNOW THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT CEPHAS SAW INTO THE LIVES OF ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA! But you pretend not to know. . ACTS 5:1-9. BUT a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2. And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the Apostles' feet. 3. But Peter said, "Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4. "Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? And after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? Thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God." 5. And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6. And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. 7. And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. 8. And Peter answered unto her, "Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much?" And she said, "Yea, for so much." 9. Then Peter said unto her, "How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt The Spirit of The Lord? Behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out." . JOHN 4:9-30. 9. Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, "How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria?" For the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans. 10. Jesus Answered and Said unto her, "If thou knewest The Gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, 'GIVE ME TO DRINK;' "thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee Living Water." 11. The woman saith unto him, "Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that Living Water? 12. "Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the Well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?" 13. Jesus Answered and Said unto her, "Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14. "But whosoever drinketh of the Water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a Well of Water springing up into Everlasting Life." 15. The woman saith unto him, "Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw." 16. Jesus Saith unto her, "Go, call thy husband, and come hither." 17. The woman answered and said, "I have no husband." Jesus Said unto her, "Thou hast well said, 'I HAVE NO HUSBAND:' 18. "For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly." 19. The woman saith unto him, "Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20. "Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship." 21. Jesus Saith unto her, "Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship The Father. 22. "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for Salvation is of the Jews. 23. "But the hour cometh, and now is, when The True Worshippers shall worship The Father in Spirit and in Truth: for The Father seeketh such to worship Him. 24. "God (is) a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship (Him) in Spirit and in Truth." 25. The woman saith unto him "I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things." 26. Jesus Saith unto her, "I that Speak unto thee am (he)." 27. And upon this came his Disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, "WHAT SEEKEST THOU?" or, "WHY TALKEST THOU WITH HER?" 28. The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men, 29. "Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?" 30. Then they went out of the city, and came unto him. . JOHN 14:12. 12. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO;' and Greater (Works) than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." LORD YESHUA SAW INTO THE PERSONAL LIVES OF PEOPLE WHOM HE MET. He promised that those who believe on him will be able to do everything he ever did, and greater works than those things, because he has Ascended to God: The Father. Kobojunkie: LORD YESHUA SAID THAT ANYONE NOT AGAINST HIM IS FOR HIM, AND THAT SATAN'S KINGDOM SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING AGAINST ITSELF. As bad as some of the seven Churches were, Lord Yeshua said that he held their Angels in his hands. What therefore gives you the right to declare these Pastors to be Servants of The Devil? To call The Holy Ghost Satan is THE UNPARDONABLE SIN. Kobojunkie: LORD YESHUA GIVES HIS FOLLOWERS THE POWER TO SEE INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES, FOR THEIR PERSONAL GAIN. . MATTHEW 10:42. 42. "And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the Name of a Disciple, verily I Say unto you, 'HE SHALL IN NO WISE LOSE HIS REWARD.' " You are a liar, Kobojunkie. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 8:42am On Jul 13, 2022 |
OtemAtum: What face could a 16yr old possibly have that would made different pastors tell him the same thing?? You are trying to tell me that all the exact prophecy he had from different pastors are due to his face?? Now he is dead, exactly the same way.. it was his face that killed him? Bro no offense, you are not making any single sense. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 8:44am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Wilgrea7:Anyone can meet unfortunate circumstances? Exactly the same way he was told it would happen? God! |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Wilgrea7(m): 9:14am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: Except of course, it didn't happen exactly like they said. They said stabbing by cultists... they said a friend would cause it. None of that happened. The only thing they got right, is that he would die. And coincidence, that's the one thing we all do as humans. Some later than others. Some earlier. But nonetheless. If he indeed met a friend that led his astray to get stabbed by cultists, then that would've been slightly more believable. But that's not what happened. What you're doing, is a sort of mental gymnastics to convince yourself that somehow, the so called prophecies which failed, somehow worked. What kind of a person claims to be able to see into the future, and yet manages to get the specific details of the future events wrong? If I told you, that you would die in the future. I wouldn't be wrong. Because it's a natural thing that happens to all humans. Once again I'm really sorry about your friend. It seems more of a case of unfortunate circumstances, rather than prophecy, or destiny. 1 Like |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 10:21am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Wilgrea7: The prophecy went exactly as said... He would be stabbed by cultists, the pastor in Kenya used the "Gun shot"... And his death would be lead by an evil friend... The girl who called gang boys on him, was she a stranger to him or his friend?? Why are you guys sounding so ignorant? Up to 4 different pastors told him the same thing, and what they said happened the same way he was warned about, and you say it's an unfortunate circumstance? Where different men of God warned you about the same thing and it later occured? Thought you guys are smart enough? Seems like the mentality here is being washed that there is no gift of vision. Change your mindset |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Wilgrea7(m): 1:15pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: Man, your story is spinning in the weirdest way possible. You initially said the prophecy was that a friend would lead him to death involving cultists. When asked for more details, you said the prophecy specified getting stabbed by cultists. Now you're changing the narrative to say that the Kenyan pastor said gunshot, even though you said stabbed initially. Hostkene: Now you're claiming the girl was his friend, even though here, you identified her as a POS, who just happens to stay opposite his workshop. No element of friendship was denoted in that story. At best, they could be regarded as neighbors, and everyone knows the two are not the same. Why are you guys sounding so ignorant? The number was initially 7. Now it has gone down to 4. You've changed the narrative of what the alleged prophets supposedly said, as well as the definition of the word "friend" in order to suit what you want to believe. You've changed the number of prophets. And you're calling us the ignorant ones. Man, It's fine. If you want to believe in destiny, feel free to do so. But if this is your evidence, I'm sorry but it's a really bad one. I really, really do not want to keep discussing the case of someone who just passed away on nairaland, so I may refrain from responding further on this topic. I wish you a good day, and I hope you're able to cope with the unfortunate event in a psychologically healthy way. My condolences once again 1 Like |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 2:08pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Wilgrea7:I never said 7, I asked a question and said "up to 8 different prophets". You are a very ignorant human being. You do not believe in prophecies, maybe that's why you're still in poverty. A witch will only want you alive just to suffer. I need intelligent people to answer a simple questions, not f00ls who do not believe in God. Get lost! F00l |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 2:13pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Wilgrea7:You are counting the number of prophets I mentioned, yet you couldn't explain why different pastors from different locations told him the same thing.. Very dumb Human being, What I wrote here is a clear story... But you are reading it from your own believe. Prophets gave him the warning that they see death around him, that he should pray against any evil friend who would lead to his early grave. The pos girl that gagned boys against him, did she just call cultists on a stranger? Are you that daft not to see that i said the pos girl was his ex girlfriend, they broke up and now are literally "friends" working opposite each other?? |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 2:16pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Wilgrea7: You are a big f00l After several same prophecies, I finally lost my friend exactly the same way he was being warned about 2years ago. It has been confirmed already and I'm asking a simple question and you are here doubting me, on top a friend who is dead already, who died "exactly" the same way men of God warned him about. And all you could say is that "it was his face that lead to different pastors telling him the same thing". It shall never be well with you, you are a very daft and poor mentality. F00l |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by oaroloye(m): 2:16pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: HE CANNOT- BUT WILL NOT ADMIT IT AS EVIDENCE. Kobojunkie: ATHEISTS TELL ANY LIE TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDA. Just because Lord Yeshua never promised the Power to see into people's lives in MARK 16, does thatmean that he never made that Promise elsewhere? Lying Atheists. Hostkene: THE COST OF HAVING SOMEONE SEE THE FUTURE FOR YOU IS THAT THE SEER OWNS YOUR LIFE FROM THERE ON IN. Hostkene: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Popoff IF ALL OF THE PROPHETS BELONGED TO THE SAME DENOMINATION, THEY COULD HAVE PREARRANGED TO LIE TO A CLIENT. PETER POPOFF pretended to have the same Power attributed to WILLIAM BRANHAM, who prophesied the personal details of people he prayed for for Healing, until his Death in 1965. In 1986, he was exposed using an "earwig" radio to receive information his workers got from Prayer Cards. Prophets using such methods should pretend not to be of the same Sects. OtemAtum: THERE ARE 20 DISCRETE FACIAL MUSCLES, WHICH CAN ALL TELL AN OBSERVANT PERSON A LOT. However, you forget about "BODY LANGUAGE:" Posture, Inclination, Agitation, Breathing, Perspiration, Eye Contact, Blinking, Pupil Dilation, Salivation, Pulse, Complexion, and so on. This is literally a Science. I have tried to teach NAIRALANDERS the importance of THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER- starting with the most important one: TOTAL RECALL. If you have that, you can get to the rest easily and safely. oaroloye: THE WEAK-MINDED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONCEIVE OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF BEING ABLE TO TOTALLY RECALL ANY AND EVERY MEMORY ONE EVER HAD. The American TV Show, LIE TO ME, starring TIM ROTH, is about a Psychiatrist named CAL LIGHTMAN, purportedly an actual person, whose mental patient abruptly committed suicide, having shown signs of improvement. The Doctor is deeply disturbed that he should not have been able to discern that his patient was planning to kill herself, since that was literally his job. (I mean, to know that his patient was going to kill herself- not to kill her himself!) He reviewed his therapy sessions with her, and suddenly realized something unexpected- replaying the videos in slo-motion, he realized that his patient had shown indications of the intent to commit suicide in her facial expressions- but had covered them up and substituted a false expression- all in one-tenth of a second! He had not expected such a deception, but once he knew what to look for, no one could hide anything from him. For instance in the intro, he demonstrates the interrogation of a Terrorist Bomber, in the presence of his lawyer, who advises the suspect not to answer any of his questions. From his reactions, Dr. Lightman determines that the FBI have been looking in the wrong place for the bomb, and directed them to the real location- all without the suspect telling him anything in words. You understand that this is all acting, and that actors are taught to fake these microexpressions, in order to deceive the audiences, that they are really the characters whom they portray. The best actors do this flawlessly, while the bad actors' microexpressions, intonations, body language, etc. will not match what is supposed to be going on with the character. If you can totally recall everything you know about people in every situation you have seen them in, you will be able to match their microexpressions, body language, and everything, to specific data. For instance, if your dog died is similar to how you would look if your mum died- but it is not the same. How you look if your car keys are missing is not how you will look if your daughter is missing. When you have your whole life's experience of observing people in such circumstances available, you can decipher what is going on with people just from looking at them. In the days when all letters were handwritten, it was a legitimate art to be able to tell what was going on with a person, by how they wrote. A person who put every dot over every "i," exactly, and crossed every "t" correctly is obviously a disciplined person. One who does not, but their crosses appear anyhow, and dots are placed anywhere, but on the stems, are not disciplined people. People who make spelling mistakes are hardly of greatest intelligence. Someone with bad handwriting does not care what is thought of them, and someone whose writing does not sit on the lines, must not care much about rules. People are not difficult to read, when your mind is disciplined to observe, and recall its observations. This art of discerning people's thoughts by observation is called COLD READING. There are probably many books on the topic, since American Television glamorized the subject. YOUR THINKING IS GUESSWORK: YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ACTUAL MECHANICS. [See: THE MENTALIST, starring Simon Baker (2008). LIE TO ME, starring Tim Roth (2009). MENTAL, starring Chris Vance (2009).] OtemAtum: HOW DOES ONE ACQUIRE A "GIFT OF WAVE-DETECTING?" INSTEAD OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE POWERS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, YOU ASCRIBE ALL POWERS TO THE UNATTAINABLE WHIM OF GOD, AND TO THE DEVILS! infini771: . MATTHEW 7:1-6. “JUDGE not, that ye be not judged. 2. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, 'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;' and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." THE HEIGHT OF STUPIDITY IS TO JUDGE OTHERS FOR BEING "FAKE," BUT NOT ONESELF. Any Solution to a Problem diagnosed by a Prophet needs to be implemented by a Christian. An Unbeliever does not want to hear Christian Solutions to their Problems. They want Solutions that will solve their issues- while leaving God out of their life! For example, they want to know if their lover girl's boyfriend has planted a bomb under their car- but they have no intention of giving up ADULTERY! Christians living in the SHARIA States want to know how to avoid being killed by Muslims- without leaving their forefathers' "rightful lands." When you become a Christian, certain options become closed to you. . MATTHEW 12:22-45. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "Is not this The Son of David?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by the Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his Goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36. "But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “ 37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned." 38. Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, "Master, we would see a Sign from thee." 39. But he Answered and Said unto them, "An Evil and Adulterous Generation seeketh after a Sign; and there shall no Sign be given to it, but The Sign of the Prophet Jonas: 40. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, 'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;' and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." IT IS QUITE TRUE THAT PASTOR/PROPHETS HAVE USED DIABOLICAL MEANS TO FAKE HAVING DIVINE SPIRITUAL POWERS. There are HERBS one can take that will give one ANY Supernatural Power you have ever heard of, in a day, even! But the cost is that a strain will be put on your Mind and Body that can literally rupture or explode them. When you take months into years to acquire these Powers, your Mind and Body become accommodated to those levels of operation. There are Devils that can activate your Divine Birthright- they cannot give anyone Powers: they have no Powers that they can give. They can lie, and pretend to give people Powers. What really happens is that they stop stealing their Powers- which they have been doing to us since we were born. [See: THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda (1981). THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).] THE REALITY OF MEDIUMS, SORCERERS, AND WITCHES IMPERSONATING MEN OF GOD DOES NOT ENTITLE YOU TO PASS JUDGMENT ON ANY WANNABE PROPHET YOU DON'T LIKE! Once you have slandered THE HOLY GHOST as THE DEVIL, ONCE- YOU ARE DONE FOR ETERNITY! You are not coming back from that- ever! I know that you don't care about that: I am saying it for the benefit of those who still think you worthy of credibility. You do not know what you are talking about, and have thrown away your Eternal Destiny for nothing worthwhile. A CHRISTIAN IS SUPPOSED TO ATTAIN HOLINESS- IN THE STATE OF HOLINESS, ALL SPIRITUAL POWERS ARE ACCESSIBLE. oaroloye: One must attain and relinquish Holiness as many as seven times, before attaining Ultimate Stability- which is ETERNAL LIFE. The Consciousness of having always been, and to for ever be. . 2nd PETER 1:5-9. 5. And besides this, giving all diligence, add to your Faith Virtue, and to Virtue Knowledge, 6. And to Knowledge Temperance, and to Temperance Patience, and to Patience Godliness, 7. And to Godliness Brotherly Kindness, and to Brotherly Kindness Charity. 8. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in The Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old Sins. EACH OF THESE POWERS HAS A DIFFERENT SPIRITUAL ENERGY LEVEL- THE APOSTLES NEVER EXPLAINED THIS TO US, BECAUSE THE APOSTLES DID NOT WANT US TO KNOW. Once a level has been attained, one cannot go back to the previous levels. Such as FAITH. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by KnownUnknown: 2:22pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: Don’t mind them friend. 8 different prophets + 4 different pastors = up to 12 similar disciples. 1 Like |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 2:23pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
KnownUnknown:Ok. |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Wilgrea7(m): 2:24pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Hostkene: I'm tired of this endless back and forth and your desire to keep changing the story. I've offered my condolences. I have no desire to trade insults with you. Enjoy your day |
Re: Can Prophets Really See Your Destiny? by Hostkene: 2:34pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Wilgrea7:Change your poor mindset. Have a nice day as well. |
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