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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 2:18pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You just use style to boycott my question. Answer to your question is contained in my post. Can you answer my question now? 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 2:27pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Another one! Will you take up a challenge on this? He knows next to nothing that's why he always rejoice whenever a JW gets tough with him, that's the time to pour out all the insults, abuses and curses stored in his brains! Luke 6:45 So funny of intelligence officer That's why i always caution Janosky not to give him that chance to exchange hurtful words because if you're mildly chatting with him he'll either run away or throw insults at you so as to drag you down to the level where he's master: ABUSE SPEECHES! I've never used the word LIKE MAD, CRAZY, ASINWIN on this forum. You didn't caution yourself from refraining from toxic and abusing word like MAD, CRAZY, ASINWIN e.t.c but you're cautioning another person. What an irony Most times he has tried to drag me down to his level but when i tell him to calm down he will tell me Janosky abused him! Says the lying liar who have called people MAD, CRAZY, ASINWIN e.t.c on this forum. You can't be a pretender more than your father the Devil. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 6:43pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Emusan:Lol. Coined or not coined, those people removed God's sacred name and replaced it with "lord" just to coerce gullible people like you to believe in the trinity gods. And mind you, it's just transliteration. They didn't give God name. The same way "Jesus" was coined too. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 7:31pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Janosky:I am waiting ooo...start listing the names of my gods of men that u know me with...oya start... I av mentioned Charles Taze Russell... Mention ur own u know me with...u dat u only know me as Christian...can u even guess my denomination or like u call it ORGANIZATION?...Try if u can 5 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:26pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
immaculatesense:Na school dey give people licence to join political party? Na you dey give UNFOUNDED EXCUSES. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 8:31pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
cornelboy: They removed the name yet you know about it today, how come? Is there sense in that? just to coerce gullible people like you to believe in the trinity gods. But the same people coined the name in which you even identify your organization with now So your gullibility is raised to power 10 And mind you, it's just transliteration. See ignoramus in display. Go and read about FORMULATION OF THE WORD JEHOVAH, so that you'll know the difference between TRANSLITERATION and FORMULATION They didn't give God name. But they formulated the divine name you know today as Jehovah The same way "Jesus" was coined too. When I say you people are olodo and ignorance to the Word of God you'll think it's a joke. Just imagine Jesus was "COINED TOO" 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:16pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
immaculatesense: Leviticus & Hebrews in your Bible, did Jehovah change His doctrine on animal sacrifice? 1 Samuel 16:6 prophet Samuel made false prophecy. 1 Samuel 3:20, is Samuel a false prophet? 1 Samuel 2:27-35, did Jehovah's prophecy change? Proverbs 24:16, Oga go & learn. Or remove all the teeth in your mouth & be like infant. JWs are NEVER infallible. We have acknowledge our mistakes. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:21pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Emusan: Wetin you no go see typed by the one who says I am Jehovah’s witnesses today But before the following morning I am yet to be a baptized Jehovah’s witness 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:36pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
immaculatesense:Emperor Constantine's 3 deities devotees of the Council of Nicaea are the mentors of gods of men who mentors the modem day followers of the Trinity delusion whether the devotees acknowledge it or not. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 9:46pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Janosky: Change is different from FALSE! Or better put it this way, Jehovah made FALSE PROPHECIES about animal sacrifice. Let's see how it sounds to you 1 Samuel 16:6 prophet Samuel made false prophecy. If someone made FALSE prophecy, isn't that person A FALSE PROPHET? Your skull is too full of dust 1 Samuel 2:27-35, did Jehovah's prophecy change? So in other words, Watchtower prophecies have CHANGED Proverbs 24:16, Oga go & learn. @immaculatesense notice the choise of word used @underlined @underlined is the keep.... If you call it mistakes 1. Was Jehovah change of prophecy a mistake as you cited above? 2. Was Samuel false prophecy a mistake? 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:58pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Emusan:There is no sense in your delusion. When Jesus Christ quoted Deut 6:4 @ Mark12:29 did he say "Lord?" Emusan:Your gullibility is raised to power 10 anytime you make false claims. Ordeh! Emusan:See ignoramus on display. No be only formulation,na EMUSANLATION. Is Jesus a Hebrew name of God's son? You throw tantrums denying the use of letter "J" for God's name,yet you dey use am sing hymns inside your business centers and una dey call all the letter "J names wey plenty inside una Bible.. Hypocrites |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:06pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Emusan: I asked questions to make a point,yet in his delusion ,Emusan jumps to spurious conclusions and post the GIBBERISH inside his deluded mind. Emusan is too dull to carry out this conversation. Tueh !!!!! |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 5:05am On Jul 15, 2022 |
Emusan: Change is different from FALSE! See how he starts manipulating the scriptures to save the head of his religious leaders from FALSE PROPHETS and FALSE PROPHECIES and making the God he serves a confirmed LIAR by so doing. I remember discussing this animal sacrifice with him of which he had to abandon. See him come back again seeking to use it peddle his DECEPTIONS as usual that his JEHOVAH is involved in CONFLICTING DOCTRINES. immaculatesense posted the below Conflicting doctorine? Janosky responded by posting Leviticus & Hebrews in your Bible, did Jehovah change His doctrine on animal sacrifice? To Oga Janosky, does your JEHOVAH teaches conflicting doctrines about ANIMAL SACRIFICES? SEALED and HOOKED. Janosky added I asked questions to make a point We await Janosky to tell us is point. . One thing is clear, the point Janosky is trying to make relates to case 1 - CONFLICTING DOCTRINES. I repeat, Janosky, is your JEHOVAH involved in CONFLICTING CONFLICTED doctrines 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:48am On Jul 15, 2022 |
Janosky: Apostle Paul's letter to our first century Jewish brothers who speak Hebrew language: "Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith". Hebrews 13:7 Again his letter to Timothy a brother whose father was Greek: "For this reason I remind you to stir up like a fire the gift of God that is in you through the laying of my hands on you" 2Timothy 1:6 This means the first century Christians has the tradition of having anointed teachers who taught and prayed for them, that's what made their teaching unique amidst thousands of schools of thought back then as everyone can perceive their oneness in thought! John 17:22 No wonder Jesus said: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!" Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus said he will condemn many religionists claiming Christians because they are workers of LAWLESSNESS or INIQUITY What is lawlessness? Is it not a situation where there is no oneness in thought over doctrines? Kumuyi condemned makeup, jewelries, hairstyles and trousers for females but some pastors approved all so when a Deeperlifer see such ones they believe such ones are going to HellFire for their disobedience to God's word yet someone feels all of them are on the same page, what does that tells you of such a person? |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 7:04am On Jul 15, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Kumuyi condemned makeup, jewelries, hairstyles and trousers for females but some pastors approved all so when a Deeperlifer see such ones they believe such ones are going to HellFire for their disobedience to God's word yet someone feels all of them are on the same page, what does that tells you of such a person? While those your religious leaders called anointed governing body members says ANY WHO DOES NOT EXERCISE FAITH IN ITS VISIBLE ORGANIZATION or JOIN IT WILL BE DESTROYED AND NEVER GET SALVATION whereas the Jesus and those you call FIRST CENTURY governing body whom your anointed religious leaders states called them FAITHFUL SLAVE said Salvation is found in no one else(NOT EVEN IN A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION called WATCHTOWER), for there is no other name(NOT EVEN THAT OF A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION) under heaven given to mankind by which we must be SAVED. 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 9:23am On Jul 15, 2022 |
Janosky:Lol... finally he (Janosky) goofed...he thought about how he could accuse me but found nothing...glory to God in the highest. Unfortunately for him...I am not a trinitarian...go into my comments in other thread...u will see my take on the topic Trinity. Janosky...since u failed this one...can u keep trying to guess wat I believe in except Christ and the scriptures?...I am a Christian...keep guessing wat ORGANIZATION I belong to. Trinity? Constantine? Council of Nicae Creed? None is my conviction. Can u see u can't know who I am except being a CHRISTIAN. I am proud to not be an association fanatic that will make people not to see Christ in me but Organization...I am a Christian...all u can see is christ. Keep trying ooo...people are reading ur FAILURES 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 10:35am On Jul 15, 2022 |
so called jw's must have demons in their heads saying trinity trinity trinity trinity trinity trinity trinity ............................ to them, all Christians are trinitarians there is a lot of mental instability in that false jw sect, of course 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by cornelboy(f): 6:31pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Emusan:Okay |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:04pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
johnw47:Slave of kumuyi , typing his delusion & GIBBERISH. In John W copy of the Bible, @ John 20:17,is Jesus Christ a Trinitarian? |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 11:43pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Janosky: lost fraud jw janosky who is kumuyi is he a pastor, so funny, talk about delusion and gibberish you are full of it Jesus Christ isn't a trinitarian, how many demons are in your head they have you so confused with no understanding of what is said at all 1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. much mental instability in your posts oh great know nothing 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 3:45am On Jul 16, 2022 |
cornelboy: I wish i can have just 2hrs discussion with u. U are already throwing stuff u have no idea about. Who removed what? You have proof of this? You are turning out to be just like the others who say things they don't know for sure, except that one organization told them this. Can you provide evidence for this claim? Does there exist ANY MANUSCRIPT IN THE WORLD where the name "Jehovah" exists in the New Testament ( "Greek scriptures" ) , or even the tetragrammation, and it was removed and replaced with "Lord"? No, you cannot, because it doesn't exist Several thousands of manuscript have come down to us, not single one backs up this claim! Can you access the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses? Surely u can see that in the Greek "Lord" is what appears, NOT anything else? Moreso do u know the real implication of this claim? That right under God's "nose" in preserving his written word, somebody somewhere can come and change it, or a part of it, without leaving any traces? Such that ALL THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD don't contain the word "Jehovah" in any form, tetragrammation inclusive, and God cannot prevent that? How then are you sure he can prevent anybody else from making any other changes to his word if he cannot prevent that from happening? Heck, how do u know no other part of the Bible has been changed undetected again? You have NO way of knowing! It's either God can protect his word from being changed, or he cannot. You are really claiming God CANNOT protect his word from alteration. He cannot keep it from being changed. It is God's power you're really challenging! Be careful the things u say. God can protect his word. This is an unfounded JW claim that attacks the power of God. On the one hand they claim they can trust his word because he can preserve it without alteration. Then turn right around to say, "yes he can but only this one he couldn't". Don't throw such slap in the face of God. He preserved his word unaltered. 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: Read Psalms 110:1 Then try to say use it to preach about your God when the listener can't read and see how stupid those who replaced God's PERSONAL name with title "LORD" 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 7:13am On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse pls try to at least read up on things carefully to reply appropriately. What I responded to specified GREEK scriptures for a reason... The rabbis of old did indeed replace the name given to them by Moses for God in the scriptures with tetragrammar because they felt it was too Holy to be called in full. It was NOT the Catholics or any professing Christian who did this! That, again, is why i referred to GREEK scriptures! Even then it wasn't "changed undetected"; everyone knew it was God's name then when they read it. And in our bibles it is replaced with LORD in all capitals so we can identify it. Again, not undetected. But all that becomes a very different matter entirely in the, again, like I said, GREEK SCRIPTURES! There is absolutely no hint of tetragrammar at all in there at all! Not even one! The word used all through is the Greek for "Lord" (not all capitals unlike the Hebrew scriptures). Now if like cornelboy claimed this was actually God's name "Jehovah" or tetragrammar, that was changed by the ppl who handled the original manuscript, such that no trace even exists in all the whole manuscripts in the whole world anymore, then this is calling God powerless! Because unlike in the Hebrew scriptures, there is no hint of any change WHATSOEVER! This is a claim I will never make of the Almighty living most powerful God! It is a very very serious claim against God Almighty! No, nothing was changed! The word there is "Lord", you can even verify by looking at the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses yourself! Nobody can change anything in God's word undetected, how then can we trust God's word? It is hard for your organization to accept that we no longer need the name "Jehovah", "Yahweh", or whatever the tetragrammar stood for in this dispensation. How do you address your own father? Can u call him by his own name? Doesn't that destroy the relationship you will have with him is instead of calling him "dad" you call him by his first name? And yet you think that's cool with God! When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, he said, say, "our Father who art in heaven"! This makes God a PERSONAL FATHER to you! We have a closer relationship with God through Jesus than the Israelites did. That name is NOT relevant to the New Testament church. You need to be born again so that u can have that close relationship with God and call him Father rather than Jehovah! 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Emusan(m): 8:53am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Janosky: See painment of this worshipper of lying 8 old men See ignoramus on display. So Catholic didn't formulate Jehovah bah Is Jesus a Hebrew name of God's son? This thing just dey pain this JaNosenses well well If not because dust full your empty skull, where did I talk about letter J here? Oponu Mr Gebbrish typer 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: Jesus Christ ruled out the erroneous teachings of those rabbis by teaching his own disciples to always use God's personal name! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6,26 So that's what makes someone a Christian not following the stupid man-made traditions of those who substituted God's Holy name with titles that can be used for lesser spirits! 1Corinthians 8:5-6 LORD is not God's name but a title! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 11:22am On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: LORD is not God's name but a title Jehovah’s Witnesses matter be like TITLE is not a NAME Abeg wetin be TITLE? Abeg wetin be NAME? 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 11:24am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Emusan: The stuff made his NO GET SENSE PEDDLING and SHAMELESSNESS a pronounced case 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 11:29am On Jul 16, 2022 |
johnw47: They have to propagate the TRINITY card to keep looking good and continually see themselves as "TRUE CHRISTIANS" other similar card includes the IMMORALITY of the SOUL and HELL FIRE. These are the beliefs you see Jehovah’s witnesses love to join in and discuss to play their "TRUE CHRISTIANS" card game. 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 1:16pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Let's see your scriptures: NKJV Mt 6:9: "⁹ In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name." Did it say "your name JEHOVAH"? NKJV Joh 17:6,26: "⁶ “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. … ²⁶ And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”" Does Jesus "your name JEHOVAH"? If i tell you, your dad has a good name, do i mean that his name "Jeff" (or whatever it is) is a good name, or i mean what he has done, his person, his character? The word "name" DOES NOT only mean a literal name, it is also all that a person is! So on what grounds do these Jesus was saying "your name JEHOVAH" instead of "all that you are"? Isn't it even more correct to say "say, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be your person" and "I have made manifest to them all about who you are and represent"? Can I ask you just one favour? Please please please and please, just gimme only ONE time where it is recorded in the entire gospels that Jesus called God "Jehovah" to "manifest the name" to his disciples? Only one pls! We are trying to test your hypothesis that Jesus "made manifest the name JEHOVAH", instead of the person of the Father? Wait... Not even a single place? Can u now see just how weak your argument is! Not even a single place Jesus used the word "Jehovah"! I'm not talking of any place where Jesus quoted scripture and the JW translators helped him to change it to "Jehovah" there like they did in this place o: Mat 21:9 NWT As for the crowds, those going ahead of him and those following kept crying out: "Save, we pray, the Son of David! Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah's name! Save him, we pray, in the heights above!" Because this sort of thing is trickery. The people at that time were NOT using the name JEHOVAH, they even had the tetragrammar in their scrolls to ensure they didn't pronounce that name! So how come the translators now put it in here by trickery? I want no such trickery. Just ONE place Jesus is using the name "Jehovah" with his disciples in "making manifest the name to them", while not quoting scripture It doesn't exist. Because Jesus did no such thing. The way he "made manifest to them his name" was in teaching them about God, who he is, and what he represents. You cannot prove this otherwise, no such thing exists 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:52pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: What is God's name? Psalms 83:18 |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 2:41pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Hebrew scriptures! (when i keep asking for GREEK SCRIPTURES relevant to the new covenant to show that's how we're to address him in this day and age when he's our Father, smh. You call your father by his own first name?) 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 6:50pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: They like to repeat and merry go round over their doctrines hoping you will accept it eventually even when you have presented strong evidence that shows no basis for you to accept it. The image below they have seen posted here repeatedly but they will look away in order to repeat their doctrines hoping will fall for it. When reading becomes difficult atleast diagrammatic representation will be of help. 2 Likes
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