FirstbornWds:


Raphina will equally will win everything Ziyech achieved individually if he played for Ajax. Ziyech isn't anything close to special. Forget all these tit-a-tat show of talent shame you guys occasionally see. If he couldn't do it at Chelsea, there's no other big team he can do it, especially not at Barcelona where every player is presumed to be an immediate superstar.

Na the same PRESUMPTION dey make Una craze over every player that puts on a Barca shirt, from the forgotten new Messis to new Xavis and new Neymar and co. Dem don dey call Raphinha new Ronaldinho.

U guys hype your players till dey flop that's how u guys hyped Fati while mocking champions league winner and boss Vincius, a player he can't lace his shoes. Apart from Pedri which other Barca player is close to world class? The rest na hype

The self delusion reach so tey u na no gree say greenwood better pass Fati

Now for a bunch a self centered praise maniacs who do una think u are to correct for praising a player that has won a lot and performed alot. Even when De Jong was in Ajax he would still lace Ziyech boots, yet De Jong is great but Ziyech is not. Stop it before thunder reach u, imagine, Ziyech is nothing special

If Salah couldn't do it at Chelsea doesn't that mean shit. Guy u fall hand

Blaxhex:
it's actually €45m fixed plus €5m variables if we win a major trophy with lewy.

Alright. It's a pretty good deal TBH.

forgiveness:


Which easily? Did Lukaku, Timo and Saul walked easily into Chelsea's lineup? Don't forget these were important players for their various clubs before joining Chelsea.

Raphinha is even a low level player that has not achieved anything those aforementioned players had achieved in their career.

leave him make him dey deceive himself, the record of attackers that have flopped in Barca go soon reach sky

FirstbornWds:


Raphina will equally will win everything Ziyech achieved individually if he played for Ajax. Ziyech isn't anything close to special. Forget all these tit-a-tat show of talent shame you guys occasionally see. If he couldn't do it at Chelsea, there's no other big team he can do it, especially not at Barcelona where every player is presumed to be an immediate superstar.

It's like saying if Lukaku, Salah, Bruyne etc couldn't do it in Chelsea then they can't do it anywhere else. Please, cut crap.

What's special about Raphinha?

Ziyech didn't only prove himself in Eredivisie, he has proven himself in UEFA competitions before coming to Chelsea.

Definitely, you don't have an idea.

forgiveness:


Which easily? Did Lukaku, Timo and Saul walked easily into Chelsea's lineup? Don't forget these were important players for their various clubs before joining Chelsea.

Raphinha is even a low level player that has not achieved anything those aforementioned players had achieved in their career.

Wait fezz, wasn't Timo the regular starter for your guys before last season? Wasn't it when he started misfiring that Fraudvertz relegated him to playing as forward.

Lakaka fell out with the team and had nothing to do with walking into the team. He was easily the starting 9 during the first 5 games except for the first game against Crystal Palace. He played the game against Arsenal, Liverpool, A. Villa, and even Tottenham, including the Zenith UCL game.

The only person in your list that found it difficult for the team was Saul and good thing, he was on loan. Now tell me who's better suited for the right wing position in this present Chelsea that you think will bench Raphina

forgiveness:


It's like saying if Lukaku, Salah, Bruyne etc couldn't do it in Chelsea then they can't do it anywhere else. Please, cut crap.

What's special about Raphinha?

Ziyech didn't only prove himself in Eredivisie, he has proven himself in UEFA competitions before coming to Chelsea.

Definitely, you don't have an idea.

Those names you mentioned already showed the class they were made of. Ziyech is just a show-off player and nothing more. Comparing to Raphina in the EPL is beginning to sound like an insult.

WhoDeyHause:

If we can't buy him because he wants to go to psg or totenham. There are other good defenders like bremer, webster, gvardiol. We need defenders and a midfielder.

What's up motherfúcker

BlueAngel444:
leave him make him dey deceive himself, the record of attackers that have flopped in Barca go soon reach sky

Coming from a person that supports a team that bought Lakaka for 100m because of one season wonder in inter.

WhoDeyHause:

Lukaku forgets that he is only on loan at inter. He has turned his hate from Tuchel not starting him to the whole club. He should just hope inter buys him so he will not come back. Big waste of money.

But but but Dead Broke Barca can never ever get Lewandowski

BlueAngel444:
Na the same PRESUMPTION dey make Una craze over every player that puts on a Barca shirt, from the forgotten new Messis to new Xavis and new Neymar and co. Dem don dey call Raphinha new Ronaldinho.

U guys hype your players till dey flop that's how u guys hyped Fati while mocking champions league winner and boss Vincius, a player he can't lace his shoes. Apart from Pedri which other Barca player is close to world class? The rest na hype

The self delusion reach so tey u na no gree say greenwood better pass Fati

Now for a bunch a self centered praise maniacs who do una think u are to correct for praising a player that has won a lot and performed alot. Even when De Jong was in Ajax he would still lace Ziyech boots, yet De Jong is great but Ziyech is not. Stop it before thunder reach u, imagine, Ziyech is nothing special

If Salah couldn't do it at Chelsea doesn't that mean shit. Guy u fall hand

What level of fallacy is this? De Jong was Ajax best player in 2019 and was always ahead of Ziyech when he was there. In fact, Frenkie de Jong was the Eredivisie as Player of the Season 2018/2019. The Ajax midfielder was the best performing footballer of the competition over 34 matches. Both might have dwindled but De jongbis definitely still a better player than Ziyexlch and that isn't a debate.

Salah, KDB weren't given enough playing time as Ziyech in Chelsea else this debate wouldn't be up in the first place.

FirstbornWds:


Coming from a person that supports a team that bought Lakaka for 100m because of one season wonder in inter.

And another team that bought hazard for 100m+

Kilishihunter:

And another team that bought hazard for 100m+

No mind that one. He won troll yet he day support team way get "cursed jersey number." imagine the amount of players way don flop.

forgiveness:


Mount scored 11 goals and had 10 assists last season.

Comparing Raphinha with Ziyech is ridiculous because Ziyech has proven himself at the highest level.

3 times Eredivisie player of the year and Dutch football player of the year.

Besides, Werner is a striker.

He didn’t call mount ,mount is better than raphinha ,mount is not even playing from the flanks self but AM

But you see those Warey wey him call dem no sabi anything ,including harvetz ,no need to even argue self ,

Raphinha will boss the Dutch league ,even dusan tadic is doing like Lionel Messi there

In Chelsea forwards ,it’s only mount and sterling that’s better than raphinha

FirstbornWds:


Coming from a person that supports a team that bought Lakaka for 100m because of one season wonder in inter.

my team also bought Hazard and he flopped in Madrid still doesn't compare to spending 500m on left wing and now not one was worth up to 50m, not even 20m.

Yet one Barca bot had the guts to say only James will start in Barca that's begging to sign Cesar and Alonso who would walk straight into your starting XI, even you Arajuo your best CB won't be a starter in Chelsea.

Your GK was so bad it made Kepa look like a star

A team that basically failed to carry any weight in Europa league... Is is Torres Una left winger that would not start in Arsenal not Westham or Aubameyang that kept missing chances and made Werner seem like a God of scoring goals. I don't understand where the arrogance comes from. Dembele your best RW couldn't get an offer of 10m per year anywhere in the world and had to resettle in Barca for a far lower wage. So who exactly in your XI apart from Pedri or De Jong that's moving to United is worth anything.

If they sold Barca whole XI it wouldn't be worth 2 Lukakus, 200m. I understand the massive excitement signing Raphinha

Even Tottenham and Arsenal fans that signed similar performing players are not making such a fuss... BECAUSE there team is not that weak to make a winger like that some new Ronaldinho

Taguchi:




Every other chelsea fan can say it and be somewhat justified but not that guy, he forgot that action has consequences

it's just a pity that he has no personal thread and as such few innocent folks will suffer for his sins

carry go with your vengeance ! we are with you.


for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children,- Exodus 20:5

Just cause of that clown I found myself coming here time and time again to defend barça or either cause of a senseless mention, unlike before when I'll seldomly comment here except for general football knowledge I might have an inkling of or other side topics, Always chanting "dead barka" or "dead manyoo" like a stammerer even when there's no reason
Him get luck say distroy no just get him time

BlueAngel444:
Na the same PRESUMPTION dey make Una craze over every player that puts on a Barca shirt, from the forgotten new Messis to new Xavis and new Neymar and co. Dem don dey call Raphinha new Ronaldinho.

U guys hype your players till dey flop that's how u guys hyped Fati while mocking champions league winner and boss Vincius, a player he can't lace his shoes. Apart from Pedri which other Barca player is close to world class? The rest na hype

The self delusion reach so tey u na no gree say greenwood better pass Fati

Now for a bunch a self centered praise maniacs who do una think u are to correct for praising a player that has won a lot and performed alot. Even when De Jong was in Ajax he would still lace Ziyech boots, yet De Jong is great but Ziyech is not. Stop it before thunder reach u, imagine, Ziyech is nothing special

If Salah couldn't do it at Chelsea doesn't that mean shit. Guy u fall hand

I don tire dat guy ooo.

andrewbaba44:


He didn’t call mount ,mount is better than raphinha ,mount is not even playing from the flanks self but AM

But you see those Warey wey him call dem no sabi anything ,including harvetz ,no need to even argue self ,

Raphinha will boss the Dutch league ,even dusan tadic is doing like Lionel Messi there

In Chelsea forwards ,it’s only mount and sterling that’s better than raphinha

hope you know Raphinha was not born in premier League, he played in French league, ligue 1, mf didn't boss shit

So those attacking him for poor output actually have a point

I like the guy because he gives that Willian vibes, even Willian now seems to have a better output, only regret was that Chelsea should have sold Willian to Barca for 50m that time.

FirstbornWds:


Mount to me isn't a winger, he's more like an AMF since he's the most creative person in the team. But if you choose to call him a winger, then I guess I have to agree with you.

Who'll Ziyech start over in Barcelona? The only player in the blues guaranteed of a starting 11 in Barcelona is Reece James, and maybe to an extent Mount, even this one will be a squad player.

And stop saying rubbish, Raphina will walk easily to the Chelsea 's lineup and will be forced to play even if has a knock.


No cap!!

Which raphinha will easily walk into Chelsea's xi, make e star at Barca first

FirstbornWds:



What level of fallacy is this? De Jong was Ajax best player in 2019 and was always ahead of Ziyech when he was there. In fact, Frenkie de Jong was the Eredivisie as Player of the Season 2018/2019. The Ajax midfielder was the best performing footballer of the competition over 34 matches. Both might have dwindled but De jongbis definitely still a better player than Ziyexlch and that isn't a debate.

Salah, KDB weren't given enough playing time as Ziyech in Chelsea else this debate wouldn't be up in the first place.

oh so you know but you just want to drag him

De Jong lacing his boots has nothing to do with better player but about respect, something you seemed to lack for Ziyech

BlueAngel444:
leave him make him dey deceive himself, the record of attackers that have flopped in Barca go soon reach sky

I don tire for the guy.

TLona1:


It'll only be a bad business for Barcelona if he flops and I don't see him flopping.

50M for one the greatest strikers who is still very much vibrant is a fucking good deal if you ask me.

50m for a 34 years old striker who’s not Messi or Ronaldo isn’t a good deal anywhere in the world.

A player who’s leaving his comfort zone, not just comfort zone, but Bayern-Liga that produced frauds like Fraudvertz, Dembozu, Werner and Scamcho.

You don’t use 34 years striker to build back a team bruv. I wish him well and hope he plays well, but don’t say it’s a good business please.

BlueAngel444:
my team also bought Hazard and he flopped in Madrid still doesn't compare to spending 500m on left wing and now not one was worth up to 50m, not even 20m.

Yet one Barca bot had the guts to say only James will start in Barca that's begging to sign Cesar and Alonso who would walk straight into your starting XI, even you Arajuo your best CB won't be a starter in Chelsea.

Your GK was so bad it made Kepa look like a star

A team that basically failed to carry any weight in Europa league... Is is Torres Una left winger that would not start in Arsenal not Westham or Aubameyang that kept missing chances and made Werner seem like a God of scoring goals. I don't understand where the arrogance comes from. Dembele your best RW couldn't get an offer of 10m per year anywhere in the world and had to resettle in Barca for a far lower wage. So who exactly in your XI apart from Pedri or De Jong that's moving to United is worth anything.

If they sold Barca whole XI it wouldn't be worth 2 Lukakus, 200m. I understand the massive excitement signing Raphinha

Even Tottenham and Arsenal fans that signed similar performing players are not making such a fuss... BECAUSE there team is not that weak to make a winger like that some new Ronaldinho

So you are saying Alonso will bench Jordi Alba as a Let back? Lol. Not on his life or prime as a whole. Alba is his lord even in the Spanish NT.

Raphina will surely face stiff competition with Dembele to man the right wing but comparing him to any winger in Chelsea except from Sterling should be a crime punishable by 7 years imprisonment. None of them is good enough, not even close.

The only reason Azpi will get into the Barcelona's team is because we don't have a solid right back now. The same goes for James. If not, no other player can come in.

And it's complete hogwash to claim that Araujo will not walk into a defense as Chelsea when you have only a 38years old Silva and 31 years old Koulibaly as the only standing defenders in a team that likes to play a 3-man defense. Na Chalobah go give am issue? Abeg

Kilishihunter:

Just cause of that clown I found myself coming here time and time again to defend barça or either cause of a senseless mention, unlike before when I'll seldomly comment here except for general football knowledge I might have an inkling of or other side topics, Always chanting "dead barka" or "dead manyoo" like a stammerer even when there's no reason Him get luck say distroy no just get him time

Nigga is reaping what he sowed and him dey complain, him never see anything yet

no one has a monopoly of violence this is just the begining

make them miss out on kounde first

BlueAngel444:
oh so you know but you just want to drag him

De Jong lacing his boots has nothing to do with better player but about respect, something you seemed to lack for Ziyech

Guy abi na madam, De Jong and Ziyech shouldn't be use in a statement of comparisons, irrespective of whatever... Respect or no respect.


You'd be committing a crime if you do that!!

FirstbornWds:


So you are saying Alonso will bench Jordi Alba as a Let back? Lol. Not on his life or prime as a whole. Alba is his lord even in the Spanish NT.

Raphina will surely face stiff competition with Dembele to man the right wing but comparing him to any winger in Chelsea except from Sterling should be a crime punishable by 7 years imprisonment. None of them is good enough, not even close.

The only reason Azpi will get into the Barcelona's team is because we don't have a solid right back now. The same goes for James. If not, no other player can come in.

And it's complete hogwash to claim that Araujo will not walk into a defense as Chelsea when you have only a 38years old Silva and 31 years old Koulibaly as the only standing defenders in a team that likes to play a 3-man defense. Na Chalobah go give am issue? Abeg

Tbat guy won’t walk into Westham or Leicester defense.

If money dey, una for don replace am.

Sniper04:

Which raphinha will easily walk into Chelsea's xi, make e star at Barca first

Who go bench am amongst the wingers way una get.

And for the love of everything, make una no day compare Barcelona to una.... he has a decisive Dembele to compete with on the right flank compare to that empty space on the right wing in Chelsea.

donstan18:

Tbat guy won’t walk into Westham or Leicester defense.

If money dey, una for don replace am.

I didn't ask for the opinions of a drunk man abeg.

Comot for hia

FirstbornWds:


So you are saying Alonso will bench Jordi Alba as a Let back? Lol. Not on his life or prime as a whole. Alba is his lord even in the Spanish NT.

Raphina will surely face stiff competition with Dembele to man the right wing but comparing him to any winger in Chelsea except from Sterling should be a crime punishable by 7 years imprisonment. None of them is good enough, not even close.

The only reason Azpi will get into the Barcelona's team is because we don't have a solid right back now. The same goes for James. If not, no other player can come in.

And it's complete hogwash to claim that Araujo will not walk into a defense as Chelsea when you have only a 38years old Silva and 31 years old Koulibaly as the only standing defenders in a team that likes to play a 3-man defense. Na Chalobah go give am issue? Abeg

Araujo deserves respect because he was a nobody who become somebody by using very well the opportunity in front of him. Una top CB supposed be Eric Garcia let's forget about the Prique that has flattened for now.

Which chance will Araujo get in Chelsea team? Is he better than Guehi or Tomori?

I bet if you compared their stats Chalobah probably performed better. Now if Chalobah benched Christensen who may in turn bench Araujo if u guys sign another center back how is he starting in Chelsea?

That is not even knowing if he would survive in EPL

FirstbornWds:



Those names you mentioned already showed the class they were made of. Ziyech is just a show-off player and nothing more. Comparing to Raphina in the EPL is beginning to sound like an insult.

When and where did they show class? Definitely not Chelsea.

In the same EPL, Ziyech made 2021/2022 FA cup team of season. What did Raphinha win?

BlueAngel444:
hope you know Raphinha was not born in premier League, he played in French league, ligue 1, mf didn't boss shit

So those attacking him for poor output actually have a point

I like the guy because he gives that Willian vibes, even Willian now seems to have a better output, only regret was that Chelsea should have sold Willian to Barca for 50m that time.

Raphinha will keep getting better

Thank God Barca didn’t buy that zule zoo called willian

Thank you

FirstbornWds:


Who go bench am amongst the wingers way una get.

And for the love of everything, make una no day compare Barcelona to una.... he has a decisive Dembele to compete with on the right flank compare to that empty space on the right wing in Chelsea.

empty space because Pulisic is Pulisickness up and dan, and Ziyech na off and on much like how Dembele has been

So if Raphinha has to compete with Dembele of all wingers, is it now in Chelsea he won't compete in

You think Werner that started chopping bench thought in his life that a player Liverpool and Bayern wanted would be chopping bench in Chelsea

lewandowski reduced his salary to make the move to Barca, €9m net per year.

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