abduleez1:

I don't think so. Joss has a questionable record and Gal doesn't seem like one to lie about things like that. As for Fisher, well Joss could have truly been racist. Dude has the profile of a douch. My main problem with Fisher is lying and trying to smear Walter Hamada who wasn't even aware or at the top of WB, neither was he related in the JL project in anyway. Also, continuously whining on social media and crying anytime something big about DC is about to drop. Dude is beginning to sound like a broken record.

I don't really care about Joss, Jon Berg or even Geoff Johns especially. They can go fvvk off.
Sending death threats to Ann Sarnoff, Adam Wingard and James Gunn is just the height of toxicity. Well Kilar is to be blamed for greenliting the project. WB executives surely are still pissed by that singular decision and doesn't matter whether the main head honchos are out after Zaslav clean up.
It'll be interesting how Fisher moves on with his career.

Snyder made a string of bad movies, including for DC.

WB wanted their version of Avengers 1, which was one of the biggest movies ever, and inexplicably gives it to Snyder even though all of his movies have underperformed.

Snyder copies basic plot of Avengers 1 movie and “Snyders” it up into a crapfest.

Delivers his early cuts to the studio and everyone is horrified.

WB drags out firing of Snyder until they are able to secure the actual Avengers 1 writer-director, Whedon, to fix Snyder’s bad copy of Whedon’s movie, but gives Whedon no time or resources to accomplish said goal.

Whedon makes several suggestions and requests for major changes to the movie, which WB ignores and declines.

Reshoots are a disaster, everyone hates each other and Whedon clashes with entire cast.

All of this is done while Synder family undergoes tragedy, which is then used as the public excuse as to why Snyder doesn’t finish film.

Final movie is condensed version of Snyder’s cut with a few more jokes thrown in.

Whedon is unhappy with it and refuses to have his name associated with it or do press for it and refuses to work with WB anymore on Batgirl.

Movie underwhelms at box office but is still better received than Snyder’s prior movies. Whedon gets all the blame for box office underperformance.

Snyder then campaigns for 3 years to release his version and weaponizes social media to take down the people who fired him and took over his movie. He specifically wants Whedon and the two main Justice League producers to go down in flames.

WB, under new leadership, is now owned by HBOMax who are desperate for content for their new streaming service. They believe Snyder has a massive fanbase that will sign up for HBOMax to watch his cut of the film. They approve releasing it and give Snyder an additional $70M to complete it.

Justice League actors who had roles cut or altered during the reshoots speak out against Whedon for being abusive as they campaign for Snyder’s version to be released.

Ray Fisher leads the charge and goes on campaign on social media accusing everyone involved in the theatrical cut of the movie of abuse, but media only pays attention to Joss Whedon accusations, which leads to 3 more actors coming forward to say Whedon was a jerk to them. Fisher never actually gives details of the abuse he claims to have suffered and changes his accusations frequently.

Fisher eventually makes some specific accusations against Whedon in an interview for Forbes that are later retracted for being false, and the Forbes writer is fired for printing them.

Everyone now hates Whedon and his career goes down in flames.

Snyder then releases his original copy of Whedon’s Avengers 1, with several newly shot additional scenes incoherently tacked on onto HBOMax.

Snyder version of movie is still terrible and underwhelms on streaming. HBOMax doesn’t get as many views as they thought they would.

Rolling Stone article says many of Snyder’s online “fans” are paid bots that he employed to drum up publicity in order for him to get rehired by WB to make more of his bad DC movies, and to amplify negative stories about the people who took over his movie.

pu7pl3:


Didn't Snyder cast him in Rebel moon?

Calibrator:
Imagine them turning my favorite character Thor to Sabinus Pro max... I later decided against going to watch the Love and Blunder.


Ms Marvel... I pass

Moonknight.... Dumped after episode 2


I am not doing again.

A whole Thor turned to comic relief.... I can't take it!

TopeQs:



I have a question though, is it the rights to the comics that made only giant production company shoot CBM? I'll like to see a new director and small company give it a try, there are too many rubbish from them theses days.

DandeNumeruno:


He did. Partners in crime gotta stick together.

DandeNumeruno:


Timeline of the whole saga...

pu7pl3:


Can you chill man? Can you?
Tha article thats driving you like this looks very one sided. One could say 1 or 2 of the disgruntled axed executives funded that piece.
Don't be quick to label someone a criminal especially with fuzzy allegations like this.

pu7pl3:


Spiced up with salt and pepper to feel epic

TopeQs:


Thor was annoying, forced jokes when there's a literal god killer on the hunt. I just weak...

I for ignore their movies to but I know curiosity will get the best of me, make I just dey wait for high sea releases, I'm not wasting ticket money on Marvel again...


I have a question though, is it the rights to the comics that made only giant production company shoot CBM? I'll like to see a new director and small company give it a try, there are too many rubbish from them theses days.

GloriousGbola:



Enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8BaRh88eA8

pu7pl3:


Didn't Snyder cast him in Rebel moon?

DandeNumeruno:


This Tassi's piece reminds me of the time when a Forbes journalist and Fisher conspired to publish a hit piece on Whedon, but they later retracted the article because it was false, and the Forbes journalist who wrote the article was fired as a result.

So I'm having trouble digesting anything this Tassi of a guy says in his article. If you fool me once, shame on you; if you fool me twice, shame on me.

pu7pl3:


Spiced up with salt and pepper to feel epic

DandeNumeruno:


I'm at a loss for words as to what could possibly inspire such unwavering devotion among his fans. It's not like he's an auteur or anything close to world-class. He can do no wrong in the eyes of you lot.

Honestly... I can't relate. I don't hero worship anyone or go to bat for them, especially when the evidence is overwhelmingly against them.

Zack is a fraud who uses paid bots to generate support for his projects and has purposefully cultivated a toxic fanbase to keep critics at bay. That's the truth, you can either get with the program or keep your head buried in the sand.

13% of the hashtags were from bots bruh, 13%
You need to relax...it's just like WizKid, what's the special thing that he is doing that's making him generate the amount of devout fans that he has? don't hate on someone's Grace and tag them as frauds when they did nothing wrong or fraudulent.
Is the fanbase toxic? Yes
But I don't know how you want him to be able to control that

Kaycee7:
The claim that Josstice League was better received than all Snyder's DCEU movies and that ZSJL was terrible is just doing me somehow. People that weren't even DC fans or CBM fans were praising ZSJL even on this thread so I don't get.

pu7pl3:


13% of the hashtags were from bots bruh, 13%
You need to relax...it's just like WizKid, what's the special thing that he is doing that's making him generate the amount of devout fans that he has? don't hate on someone's Grace and tag them as frauds when they did nothing wrong or fraudulent.
Is the fanbase toxic? Yes
But I don't know how you want him to be able to control that

DandeNumeruno:


This demonstrates that you have no idea what you're talking about. Lemme show you how bots push agendas.

Bots typically account for approximately 5-10% of the total audience. This tiny percentage has complete control over the conversation. They are the ones who are doing most of the talking. At any given time, these bots are the ones who are posting and responding to everything. Here is a small but vocal minority that has influence over everything. To an untrained eye, this tiny but vocal percentage is a legitimate representation of what the audience truly want, and they unwittingly treat it as such.

Now apply this problem to this shitshow, and maybe you'll understand why I can't figure out why Snyder still has people defending him. Whichever way you look at it, Snyder is a fraud.

Kaycee7:
The claim that Josstice League was better received than all Snyder's DCEU movies and that ZSJL was terrible is just doing me somehow. People that weren't even DC fans or CBM fans were praising ZSJL even on this thread so I don't get.

pu7pl3:


This one has already chose the hill he wants to die on...
More power to ya

Baddestguyp:
Where are people watching The Witch part 2 from?
My movie sites don't have it yet

GloriousGbola:



Enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8BaRh88eA8

Nickshrapnel:
Yes, it is. And even if small companies owned the right to the movies, they will end up selling them because CBMs are very expensive to make/market.

Kaycee7:
The claim that Josstice League was better received than all Snyder's DCEU movies and that ZSJL was terrible is just doing me somehow. People that weren't even DC fans or CBM fans were praising ZSJL even on this thread so I don't get.

DandeNumeruno:


Timeline of the whole saga...

DandeNumeruno:


I made a compelling case, and this is all you have to say?

Seems to me you've died on Saint Snyder's hill already.

Okay...

More power to you.

abduleez1:


Lol, bro at this point you're capping. It's clear you hate the man.

Granted the Snyderverse has more than twice the amount of bots on normal fan campaigns but that percentage is about 13% of the total fan campaign. So, 87% of the fanbase online campaign are still from REAL people.

abduleez1:

True Snyder weaponized his fandom to drag down ppl he had issues with during JL movie and it was slightly below projections on HBOMax. Just shows the fandom tho loudmouthed ain't as big as everyone thought and still struggled against other DC big movies ie WW84 & TSS.

abduleez1:

Snyder movies might have issues especially to the general audience but MOS was good as well as ZSJL which was dope, even tho BVS was wack. His movies might have slightly underperformed in the BO but dude ain't entirely a bad director as you painting him to be. His actions may be malic

Bruce and Lois apparently bond over Superman's death and fvck. By the second film, she is pregnant, but she keeps it from Bruce, and Darkseid appears and kills her, turning Superman into a villain. The Flash travels in time to tell Bruce that the child is his, so he ends up saving Lois and dying. In the end, Lois's son becomes Batman.

The man is a fraud. His MoS is terrible, and his ZSJL is just a longer and more boring version of the original. He has no real love for the characters as they are, only for how he wants them to be. His original plan for the Justice League trilogy is an abomination.

AnfieldFan:


At this point, though ZSJL was better received, I remember I said it was more or less the same with Whedon's ....And it was unfair to blame Whedon because he didn't have the luxury of 4 hours ....WB did what most studios would do in that position considering his(Snyder's) past Dceu movies weren't inspiring confidence..

4 hour Snyder JL movie at the cinemas wouldn't have necessarily done better than Whedon's and his Hbomax numbers kinda reflect this because as rabid as the movement was, the numbers didn't reflect the devotion....

DandeNumeruno:


You mean the same people that panned MoM even though it's a good film? Lol.

The fact remains Justice League is a bad film from top to bottom because Snyder has a fundamental misunderstanding of all the characters, and a fundamental misunderstanding of what people can relate to.

DandeNumeruno:

This has already been addressed in an earlier post. This tiny subset of bots may be a tiny fraction of the total audience, but it controls the conversation.


No, it shows that the majority of the online buzz was generated by bots. Isn't it obvious? When the numbers don't match the hype, you know something isn't right. The first week of ZSJL's HBO Max viewership was only 2.2 million. TSS, on the other hand, had 2.8 million viewers in its first three days despite being released in theaters. Hell, The Batman had 4.1 million viewers in its first week on HBO Max after being available for over a month.



The man is a fraud. His MoS is terrible, and his ZSJL is just a longer and more boring version of the original. He has no real love for the characters as they are, only for how he wants them to be. His original plan for the Justice League trilogy is an abomination.

It goes thus;

Thank goodness this heinous assassination of beloved characters never transpired.