Hostkene:
Can prophets really see your destiny?

Being told the same thing by different prophets clearly means that this or that is meant to happen...

Imagine being told by different prophets that this bad thing is gonna happen to you, and they cover it up by telling you to "pray" instead of telling you that it's your destiny.

My question is - can destiny be changed?

Destiny can never be changed, but it can be manipulated, exchanged or stolen.

A lot of people's destinies have been sold off spiritually and they live regrettable lives.

MISHIGAS!

Hostkene:

Can prophets really see your destiny?

.    NUMBERS 11:24-29.

24. And Moses went out,
and told the people
the Words of The LORD,
and gathered
the seventy men
of the Elders of the people,
and set them round
about The Tabernacle.
25. And The LORD
came down in a Cloud,
and Spake unto him,
and took of the spirit
that was upon him,
and gave it unto
the seventy Elders:
and it came to pass,
that, when the spirit rested upon them,
they prophesied,
and did not cease.
26. But there remained
two of the men in the camp,
the name of the one was Eldad,
and the name of the other Medad:
and the spirit rested upon them;
and they were of them
that were written,
but went not out unto The Tabernacle:
and they prophesied in the camp.
27. And there ran a young man,
and told Moses, and said,

"Eldad and Medad
do prophesy in the camp."

28. And Joshua the son of Nun,
the servant of Moses,
one of his young men,
answered and said,

"My lord Moses,
forbid them."

29. And Moses said unto him,

"Enviest thou for my sake?
Would God that all
The LORD'S people were Prophets,
and that The LORD
would put His Spirit
upon them!"

IT IS GOD'S PLAN THAT ALL HIS WORSHIPPERS BE PROPHETS.[/i]

. 1^st SAMUEL 8:4-18.

4. Then all the Elders of Israel
gathered themselves together,
and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
5. And said unto him,

"Behold, thou art old,
and thy sons
walk not in thy Ways:
now make us a king
to judge us
like all the nations."

6. But the thing displeased Samuel,
when they said,

[i]"GIVE US A KING
TO JUDGE US."

And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
7. And The LORD Said unto Samuel,

"Hearken unto the Voice of the people
in all that they say unto thee
for they have not rejected thee,
but they have rejected Me,
that I should not reign over them.
8. "According to all the Works
which they have done
since the day that I brought them up
out of Egypt even unto this day,
wherewith they have forsaken Me,
and served other gods,
so do they also unto thee.
9. "Now therefore hearken
unto their Voice:
howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them,
and shew them the manner of the king
that shall reign over them."

10. And Samuel told
all The Words of The LORD
unto the people
that asked of him a king.
11. And he said,

"This will be the manner of the king
that shall reign over you:
He will take your sons,
and appoint them for himself,
for his chariots,
and to be his horsemen;
and some shall run before his Chariots.
12. "And he will appoint him
captains over thousands,
and captains over fifties;
and will set them to Ear his Ground,
and to reap his Harvest,
and to make his Instruments of War,
and Instruments of his Chariots.
13. "And he will take your daughters
to be confectionaries,
and to be cooks,
and to be bakers.
14. "And he will take your fields,
and your vineyards,
and your oliveyards,
even the best of them,
and give them to his servants.
15. "And he will take
the tenth of your seed,
and of your vineyards,
and give to his officers,
and to his servants.
16. "And he will take your menservants,
and your maidservants,
and your goodliest young men,
and your asses,
and put them to his work.
17. "He will take the tenth of your sheep:
and ye shall be his servants.
18. "And ye shall cry out in that day
because of your king
which ye shall have chosen you;
and The LORD will not Hear you
in that day."

IT IS MAN'S PLAN TO BE MUNDANE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHETS.

. JOHN 16:1-15.

"THESE Things
have I Spoken unto you,
that ye should not be offended.
2. "They shall put you
out of the Synagogues:
yea, the time cometh,
that whosoever killeth you
will think that he doeth God Service.
3. "And these Things
will they do unto you,
because they have not
known The Father,
nor me.
4. “But these Things have I told you,
that when the time shall come,
ye may remember
that I told you of them.
And these Things
I Said not unto you
at the beginning,
because I was with you.
5. “But now I go my Way
to Him that sent me;
and none of you asketh me,

'WHITHER GOEST THOU?'

6. “But because I have Said
these Things unto you,
sorrow hath filled your heart.
7. "Nevertheless I Tell you The Truth;

'IT IS EXPEDIENT FOR YOU
THAT I GO AWAY:
FOR IF I GO NOT AWAY,
THE COMFORTER WILL NOT
COME UNTO YOU.'

but if I depart,
I will send Him unto you.
8. "And when He is come,
He will reprove the World
of SIN,
and of RIGHTEOUSNESS,
and of JUDGMENT:
9. "OF SIN,
because they believe not on me;
10. "OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,
because I go to my Father,
and ye see me no more;
11. "OF JUDGMENT,
because the Prince of this World
is Judged.

12. "I have yet many things
to Say unto you,
but ye cannot bear them now.
13. "Howbeit when He,
The Spirit of Truth,
is come,
He will guide you
into all Truth:
for He shall not
Speak of Himself;
but whatsoever
He shall hear,
that shall He speak:
and He will shew you
Things to come.
14. "He shall glorify me:
for He shall receive of mine,
and shall shew It unto you.
15. "All things
that The Father hath
are mine:
therefore Said I,

'THAT HE SHALL
TAKE OF MINE,
AND SHALL SHEW IT
UNTO YOU.' "

It is foolish to question whar Bible Religion says is a fact.

Hostkene:

Being told the same thing by different prophets clearly means that this or that is meant to happen...

. JONAH 1:1-17.

NOW The Word of The LORD
came unto Jonah the son of Amittai,
Saying,

2. Arise, go to Nineveh,
that great city,
and cry against it;
for their Wickedness
is come up before Me."

3. But Jonah rose up
to flee unto Tarshish
from The Presence of The LORD,
and went down to Joppa;
and he found a ship
going to Tarshish:
so he paid the fare thereof,
and went down into it,
to go with them unto Tarshish
from The Presence of The LORD.

4. But The LORD sent out
a great wind into the sea,
and there was a mighty tempest
in the sea,
so that the ship was like to be broken.
5. Then the mariners were afraid,
and cried every man unto his god,
and cast forth the wares
that were in the ship into the sea,
to lighten it of them.
But Jonah was gone down
into the sides of the ship;
and he lay,
and was fast asleep.

6. So the shipmaster came to him,
and said unto him,

"What meanest thou,
O Sleeper?
Arise,
call upon thy God,
if so be that God
will Think upon us,
that we perish not."

7. And they said every one
to his fellow,

"Come,
and let us cast lots,
that we may know
for whose Cause
this evil is upon us."

So they cast lots,
and the lot fell upon Jonah.
8. Then said they unto him,

"Tell us, we pray thee,
for whose Cause
this Evil is upon us;

'WHAT IS THINE OCCUPATION?
AND WHENCE COMEST THOU?
WHAT IS THY COUNTRY?
AND OF WHAT PEOPLE ART THOU?' "

9. And he said unto them,

"I am an Hebrew;
and I fear The LORD,
The God of Heaven,
Which hath made the Sea
and the Dry Land."

10. Then were the men
exceedingly afraid,
and said unto him,

"Why hast thou done this?"

For the men knew
that he fled from
The Presence of The LORD,
because he had told them.

11. Then said they unto him,

"What shall we do unto thee,
that the sea
may be calm unto us?"

For the sea wrought,
and was tempestuous.
12. And he said unto them,

"Take me up,
and cast me forth into the sea;
so shall the sea be calm unto you:
for I know that for my sake
this Great Tempest is upon you."

13. Nevertheless the men
rowed hard to bring it to the land;
but they could not:
for the sea wrought,
and was tempestuous
against them.
14. Wherefore they cried
unto The LORD,
and said,

"We beseech Thee, O LORD,
we beseech Thee,
let us not perish
for this man's life,
and lay not upon us
Innocent Blood:
for Thou, O LORD,
hast done as it pleased Thee."

15. So they took up Jonah,
and cast him forth into the sea:
and the sea ceased from her raging.
16. Then the men
feared The LORD exceedingly,
and offered a Sacrifice
unto The LORD,
and made Vows.

17. Now The LORD
had prepared a great fish
to swallow up Jonah.
And Jonah was in
the belly of the fish
three days and three nights.

ASK ANYONE: "WHO WAS YONAH?" EVEN PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ELSE ABOUT THE BIBLE, KNOW THAT: "YONAH WAS THE PROPHET WHO WAS SWALLOWED BY A WHALE!"

The Oyinbos say that it was a "Whale," because that is the only thing they think could swallow a man whole.

[See: Strong's- 1709 DAWG (squirming) fish.]

The difference between a fish and a whale is that whales come up for air, while fish do not. The majority of Oyinbos believe that The Bible says that Yonah lived through being swallowed by the fish, because they never read the testimony themselves.

However, if you ask why Yonah wound up inside a fish, you can expect a load of dumb looks.

. JONAH 3:1-10.

AND The Word of The LORD
came unto Jonah the second time,
Saying,
2. "Arise, go unto Nineveh,
that Great City,
and preach unto It
the Preaching that I bid thee."

3. So Jonah arose,
and went unto Nineveh,
according to The Word of The LORD.
Now Nineveh was
an exceeding great City
of three days' journey.
4. And Jonah began
to enter into the city
a day's journey,
and he cried,
and said,

"Yet forty days,
and Nineveh shall be overthrown."

5. So the people of Nineveh
believed God,
and proclaimed a Fast,
and put on sackcloth,
from the greatest of them
even to the least of them.
6. For word came unto
the king of Nineveh,
and he arose from his throne,
and he laid his robe from him,
and covered him with sackcloth,
and sat in ashes.
7.And he caused it to be proclaimed
and published through Nineveh
by the Decree
of the king and his nobles,
saying,

"LET NEITHER
MAN NOR BEAST,
HERD NOR FLOCK,
TASTE ANY THING:
LET THEM NOT FEED,
NOR DRINK WATER:
8. "BUT LET MAN AND BEAST
BE COVERED WITH SACKCLOTH,
AND CRY MIGHTILY UNTO GOD:
YEA, LET THEM TURN
EVERY ONE FROM HIS EVIL WAY,
AND FROM THE VIOLENCE
THAT IS IN THEIR HANDS.
9. "WHO CAN TELL IF GOD
WILL TURN AND REPENT,
AND TURN AWAY
FROM HIS FIERCE ANGER,
THAT WE PERISH NOT?"

10. And God saw their Works,
that they turned
from their Evil Way;
and God repented of the Evil,
that He had Said
that he would do unto them;
and He did it not.

THE OYINBOS GENERALLY MISS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE TESTIMONY- IT IS ABOUT PROVING THAT EVEN DESTINY DECREED BY GOD HIMSELF CAN BE CHANGED.

oaroloye:

.  THE TEN TALENTS.  (Matthew 25:1-46.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

.  THE TEN POUNDS.  (Luke 19:11-27.)

1. THE ABOVE; 2. THE BELOW.
3. THE EARTH; 4. THE NETHER REALMS.
5. FIRE; 6. WATER.
7. THE MOVING; 8. THE STATIONARY.
9. THE LOUD; 10. THE SILENT.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).].

.  DEUTERONOMY 25:1-4.

IF there be
a controversy between men,
and they come unto judgment,
that the judges may judge them;
then they shall justify the Righteous,
and condemn the Wicked.
2. And it shall be, if the Wicked man
be worthy to be beaten,
that the judge shall cause him
to lie down,
and to be beaten before his face,
according to his fault,
by a certain number.
3. Forty stripes he may give him,
and not exceed:
lest, if he should exceed,
and beat him above these
with many stripes,
then thy Brother
should seem vile unto thee.
4. Thou shalt not muzzle the ox
when he treadeth out (the corn).

ALL HUMANS EXIST ON EIGHT DYNAMIC LEVELS IN FORTY LEVELS OF AWARENESS:

.  THE EIGHT DYNAMICS.

1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND; 5. ALL LIVING THINGS; 6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time - i.e. PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 7. SPIRITS; 8. GOD.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard (1956).]

.  THE FORTY AWARENESS LEVELS.

40. SERENITY
30. POSTULATES
22. GAMES
20. ACTION

8.0 EXHILARATION
6.0 AESTHETICS

4.0 ENTHUSIASM
3.5 CHEERFULNESS
3.0 CONSERVATISM
2.5 BOREDOM
2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY
1.8 PAIN
1.5 ANGER
1.4 HATE
1.2 NO SYMPATHY
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY
1.0 FEAR
0.9 SYMPATHY
0.5 GRIEF
0.1 APATHY
0.0 BODY DEATH.

.  THE AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO COMMAND THE DYNAMICS.

8. SELF; 12. GROUPS; 15. ALL MANKIND; 22. MEST UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

. DIANETICS AXIOMS.

THE Source of Life is a static
of peculiar and particular properties

[A LIFE STATIC has no size,
no shape, no mass, no temperature,
no frequency, nor any other physical property.]

2. At least a portion of the static
called life is impinged upon
the Physical Universe.
3. That portion of the Static of Life
which is impinged upon
the Physical Universe
has for its Dynamic Goal
SURVIVAL and ONLY Survival.
4. The Physical Universe
is reducible to motion of energy
operating in Space through Time.
5. That portion of the Static of Life
concerned with the Life Organisms
of the Physical Universe
is concerned WHOLLY with MOTION.

22. Theta and Thought
are similar orders of static.
23. All Thought is concerned
with Motion.
26. Thought is accomplished
by Theta Facsimiles
of Physical Universe,
Entities or Actions.

99. Theta Facsimiles can recombine
into new symbols.
100. Language is the symbolization
of effort.
101. Language depends for its force
upon the force which accompanied
its definition.

[Note: Counter-effort, not language, is aberrative.]

109. Behavior is modified
by Counter-Efforts which have
impinged on the Organism.

115. SELF-DETERMINISM is
the Theta Control of the Organism.
116. A SELF-DETERMINED EFFORT
is that Counter-Effort
which has been received
into the Organism in the Past
and integrated into the organism
for its Conscious Use.

119. Agreement with any Source,
contra- or pro-survival,
postulates a New Reality
for the organism.
120. Non-Survival Courses,
Thoughts and Actions
require Non-Optimum Effort.
121. Every Thought has been preceded
by Physical Action.
122. The Mind does with Thought
as it has done with entities
in the Physical Universe.

127. All perceptions reaching
the organism's sense channels
are recorded and stored by Theta Facsimile.

Definition: Perception is the process
of recording data from
the Physical Universe and storing it
as a Theta Facsimile.

Definition: Recall is the process
of regaining Perceptions.
128. Any organism can recall
everything which it has perceived.

.  SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 1-12.

LIFE IS BASICALLY A STATIC.

Definition: a Life Static has no mass,
no motion, no wavelength,
no location in space or in time.
It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.
2. The Static is capable of Considerations,
Postulates, and Opinions.
3. Space, Energy, Objects, Form,
and Time are the result of Considerations
made and/or agreed upon or not by the Static,
and are perceived solely because
the Static considers that it can perceive them.
4. Space is a Viewpoint of Dimension.
5. Energy consists of
postulated particles
in Space.
6. Objects consist of
grouped particles and solids.
7. Time is basically a postulate
that Space and particles will persist.
8. The apparency of Time is
the change of position of particles in space.
9. Change is the primary manifestation of Time.
10. The Highest Purpose in this Universe
is the Creation of an Effect.

11. THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN
CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE
ARE FOUR-FOLD.

(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without persistence,
and is the condition of existence which exists at the moment of creation
and the moment of destruction, and is different from other considerations
in that it does not contain survival.

(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the Consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS
to obtain persistency.

(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about
by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS.
This is called, when agreed upon, Reality.

(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS
by reducing its condition through the use of force.
It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS.

12. The Primary Condition of any Universe is that
two Spaces, Energies, or Objects must not occupy the same Space.
When this condition is violated [Perfect Duplicate]
the Apparency of any Universe or any part thereof is nulled.

[See: SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL: The Prediction of Human Behaviour, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).
THE DYNAMICS AND TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard (1952).
See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard (1970).]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "SEEING THE FUTURE," BECAUSE THE FUTURE, BY DEFINITION, DOES NOT EXIST. AT ALL.

What can be seen is INTENT.

It takes Power to forsee an INTENDED FUTURE.

It takes Powerlessness to be unable to perceive one's own Future.

If someone with Power gives a Prediction to someone without, they are adding Power to the hitherto Powerless, making them even more Powerful than themself.

Hostkene:

Imagine being told by different prophets that this bad thing is gonna happen to you, and they cover it up by telling you to "pray" instead of telling you that it's your destiny.

. DEUTERONOMY 28:13,44.

13. And The LORD shall make thee
the head, and not the tail;
and thou shalt be above only,
and thou shalt not be beneath;
if that thou hearken
unto The Commandments
of The LORD thy God,
Which I Command thee this day,
to observe and to do them:
44. He shall lend to thee,
and thou shalt not lend to him:
he shall be the head,
and thou shalt be the tail.

THE WICKEDNESS OF PROPHETS LIES IN NOT WARNING PEOPLE THAT REQUIRING A PROPHET IS AN ACCURSED STATE.

God always intended for every man and every woman to be their own Prophet or Prophetess.

That is not what the Prophets and Prophtesses indended.

To play upon the ignorance of your Neighbours is as wicked as it gets.

Hostkene:

My question is - can destiny be changed?

WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE THE BIBLE?

judedwriter:

Destiny can never be changed,

THAT IS AS STUPID AS IT GETS- WHY DO YOU LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET?

judedwriter:

but it can be manipulated, exchanged or stolen.

I STAND CORRECTED: AFTER DECLARING THAT DESTINY CANNOT BE CHANGED, YOU LIST THREE WAYS DESTINY CAN BE CHANGED!

judedwriter:

A lot of people's destinies have been sold off spiritually and they live regrettable lives.

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE, IF "DESTINY CANNOT BE CHANGED?"

judedwriter:


Destiny can never be changed, but it can be manipulated, exchanged or stolen.

A lot of people's destinies have been sold off spiritually and they live regrettable lives.

Hogwash.

judedwriter:
Destiny can never be changed, but it can be manipulated, exchanged or stolen.

A lot of people's destinies have been sold off spiritually and they live regrettable lives.

See contradiction abeg!

Kobojunkie:
See contradiction abeg!

Nobody can change your destiny, yes! If God has destined you to be a great leader, your destiny remains unchangeable!

However, what enemies can do is transfer your glory, but they can't change your destiny.

Nobody can use your destiny, but they can use your glory.

However, if you don't fulfill destiny, it becomes wasted.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



.    NUMBERS 11:24-29.

24. And Moses went out,
and told the people
the Words of The LORD,
and gathered
the seventy men
of the Elders of the people,
and set them round
about The Tabernacle.
25. And The LORD
came down in a Cloud,
and Spake unto him,
and took of the spirit
that was upon him,
and gave it unto
the seventy Elders:
and it came to pass,
that, when the spirit rested upon them,
they prophesied,
and did not cease.
26. But there remained
two of the men in the camp,
the name of the one was Eldad,
and the name of the other Medad:
and the spirit rested upon them;
and they were of them
that were written,
but went not out unto The Tabernacle:
and they prophesied in the camp.
27. And there ran a young man,
and told Moses, and said,

"Eldad and Medad
do prophesy in the camp."

28. And Joshua the son of Nun,
the servant of Moses,
one of his young men,
answered and said,

"My lord Moses,
forbid them."

29. And Moses said unto him,

"Enviest thou for my sake?
Would God that all
The LORD'S people were Prophets,
and that The LORD
would put His Spirit
upon them!"

IT IS GOD'S PLAN THAT ALL HIS WORSHIPPERS BE PROPHETS.[/i]

. 1^st SAMUEL 8:4-18.

4. Then all the Elders of Israel
gathered themselves together,
and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
5. And said unto him,

"Behold, thou art old,
and thy sons
walk not in thy Ways:
now make us a king
to judge us
like all the nations."

6. But the thing displeased Samuel,
when they said,

[i]"GIVE US A KING
TO JUDGE US."

And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
7. And The LORD Said unto Samuel,

"Hearken unto the Voice of the people
in all that they say unto thee
for they have not rejected thee,
but they have rejected Me,
that I should not reign over them.
8. "According to all the Works
which they have done
since the day that I brought them up
out of Egypt even unto this day,
wherewith they have forsaken Me,
and served other gods,
so do they also unto thee.
9. "Now therefore hearken
unto their Voice:
howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them,
and shew them the manner of the king
that shall reign over them."

10. And Samuel told
all The Words of The LORD
unto the people
that asked of him a king.
11. And he said,

"This will be the manner of the king
that shall reign over you:
He will take your sons,
and appoint them for himself,
for his chariots,
and to be his horsemen;
and some shall run before his Chariots.
12. "And he will appoint him
captains over thousands,
and captains over fifties;
and will set them to Ear his Ground,
and to reap his Harvest,
and to make his Instruments of War,
and Instruments of his Chariots.
13. "And he will take your daughters
to be confectionaries,
and to be cooks,
and to be bakers.
14. "And he will take your fields,
and your vineyards,
and your oliveyards,
even the best of them,
and give them to his servants.
15. "And he will take
the tenth of your seed,
and of your vineyards,
and give to his officers,
and to his servants.
16. "And he will take your menservants,
and your maidservants,
and your goodliest young men,
and your asses,
and put them to his work.
17. "He will take the tenth of your sheep:
and ye shall be his servants.
18. "And ye shall cry out in that day
because of your king
which ye shall have chosen you;
and The LORD will not Hear you
in that day."

IT IS MAN'S PLAN TO BE MUNDANE FOLLOWERS OF PROPHETS.

. JOHN 16:1-15.

"THESE Things
have I Spoken unto you,
that ye should not be offended.
2. "They shall put you
out of the Synagogues:
yea, the time cometh,
that whosoever killeth you
will think that he doeth God Service.
3. "And these Things
will they do unto you,
because they have not
known The Father,
nor me.
4. “But these Things have I told you,
that when the time shall come,
ye may remember
that I told you of them.
And these Things
I Said not unto you
at the beginning,
because I was with you.
5. “But now I go my Way
to Him that sent me;
and none of you asketh me,

'WHITHER GOEST THOU?'

6. “But because I have Said
these Things unto you,
sorrow hath filled your heart.
7. "Nevertheless I Tell you The Truth;

'IT IS EXPEDIENT FOR YOU
THAT I GO AWAY:
FOR IF I GO NOT AWAY,
THE COMFORTER WILL NOT
COME UNTO YOU.'

but if I depart,
I will send Him unto you.
8. "And when He is come,
He will reprove the World
of SIN,
and of RIGHTEOUSNESS,
and of JUDGMENT:
9. "OF SIN,
because they believe not on me;
10. "OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,
because I go to my Father,
and ye see me no more;
11. "OF JUDGMENT,
because the Prince of this World
is Judged.

12. "I have yet many things
to Say unto you,
but ye cannot bear them now.
13. "Howbeit when He,
The Spirit of Truth,
is come,
He will guide you
into all Truth:
for He shall not
Speak of Himself;
but whatsoever
He shall hear,
that shall He speak:
and He will shew you
Things to come.
14. "He shall glorify me:
for He shall receive of mine,
and shall shew It unto you.
15. "All things
that The Father hath
are mine:
therefore Said I,

'THAT HE SHALL
TAKE OF MINE,
AND SHALL SHEW IT
UNTO YOU.' "

It is foolish to question whar Bible Religion says is a fact.



. JONAH 1:1-17.

NOW The Word of The LORD
came unto Jonah the son of Amittai,
Saying,

2. Arise, go to Nineveh,
that great city,
and cry against it;
for their Wickedness
is come up before Me."

3. But Jonah rose up
to flee unto Tarshish
from The Presence of The LORD,
and went down to Joppa;
and he found a ship
going to Tarshish:
so he paid the fare thereof,
and went down into it,
to go with them unto Tarshish
from The Presence of The LORD.

4. But The LORD sent out
a great wind into the sea,
and there was a mighty tempest
in the sea,
so that the ship was like to be broken.
5. Then the mariners were afraid,
and cried every man unto his god,
and cast forth the wares
that were in the ship into the sea,
to lighten it of them.
But Jonah was gone down
into the sides of the ship;
and he lay,
and was fast asleep.

6. So the shipmaster came to him,
and said unto him,

"What meanest thou,
O Sleeper?
Arise,
call upon thy God,
if so be that God
will Think upon us,
that we perish not."

7. And they said every one
to his fellow,

"Come,
and let us cast lots,
that we may know
for whose Cause
this evil is upon us."

So they cast lots,
and the lot fell upon Jonah.
8. Then said they unto him,

"Tell us, we pray thee,
for whose Cause
this Evil is upon us;

'WHAT IS THINE OCCUPATION?
AND WHENCE COMEST THOU?
WHAT IS THY COUNTRY?
AND OF WHAT PEOPLE ART THOU?' "

9. And he said unto them,

"I am an Hebrew;
and I fear The LORD,
The God of Heaven,
Which hath made the Sea
and the Dry Land."

10. Then were the men
exceedingly afraid,
and said unto him,

"Why hast thou done this?"

For the men knew
that he fled from
The Presence of The LORD,
because he had told them.

11. Then said they unto him,

"What shall we do unto thee,
that the sea
may be calm unto us?"

For the sea wrought,
and was tempestuous.
12. And he said unto them,

"Take me up,
and cast me forth into the sea;
so shall the sea be calm unto you:
for I know that for my sake
this Great Tempest is upon you."

13. Nevertheless the men
rowed hard to bring it to the land;
but they could not:
for the sea wrought,
and was tempestuous
against them.
14. Wherefore they cried
unto The LORD,
and said,

"We beseech Thee, O LORD,
we beseech Thee,
let us not perish
for this man's life,
and lay not upon us
Innocent Blood:
for Thou, O LORD,
hast done as it pleased Thee."

15. So they took up Jonah,
and cast him forth into the sea:
and the sea ceased from her raging.
16. Then the men
feared The LORD exceedingly,
and offered a Sacrifice
unto The LORD,
and made Vows.

17. Now The LORD
had prepared a great fish
to swallow up Jonah.
And Jonah was in
the belly of the fish
three days and three nights.

ASK ANYONE: "WHO WAS YONAH?" EVEN PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ELSE ABOUT THE BIBLE, KNOW THAT: "YONAH WAS THE PROPHET WHO WAS SWALLOWED BY A WHALE!"

The Oyinbos say that it was a "Whale," because that is the only thing they think could swallow a man whole.

[See: Strong's- 1709 DAWG (squirming) fish.]

The difference between a fish and a whale is that whales come up for air, while fish do not. The majority of Oyinbos believe that The Bible says that Yonah lived through being swallowed by the fish, because they never read the testimony themselves.

However, if you ask why Yonah wound up inside a fish, you can expect a load of dumb looks.

. JONAH 3:1-10.

AND The Word of The LORD
came unto Jonah the second time,
Saying,
2. "Arise, go unto Nineveh,
that Great City,
and preach unto It
the Preaching that I bid thee."

3. So Jonah arose,
and went unto Nineveh,
according to The Word of The LORD.
Now Nineveh was
an exceeding great City
of three days' journey.
4. And Jonah began
to enter into the city
a day's journey,
and he cried,
and said,

"Yet forty days,
and Nineveh shall be overthrown."

5. So the people of Nineveh
believed God,
and proclaimed a Fast,
and put on sackcloth,
from the greatest of them
even to the least of them.
6. For word came unto
the king of Nineveh,
and he arose from his throne,
and he laid his robe from him,
and covered him with sackcloth,
and sat in ashes.
7.And he caused it to be proclaimed
and published through Nineveh
by the Decree
of the king and his nobles,
saying,

"LET NEITHER
MAN NOR BEAST,
HERD NOR FLOCK,
TASTE ANY THING:
LET THEM NOT FEED,
NOR DRINK WATER:
8. "BUT LET MAN AND BEAST
BE COVERED WITH SACKCLOTH,
AND CRY MIGHTILY UNTO GOD:
YEA, LET THEM TURN
EVERY ONE FROM HIS EVIL WAY,
AND FROM THE VIOLENCE
THAT IS IN THEIR HANDS.
9. "WHO CAN TELL IF GOD
WILL TURN AND REPENT,
AND TURN AWAY
FROM HIS FIERCE ANGER,
THAT WE PERISH NOT?"

10. And God saw their Works,
that they turned
from their Evil Way;
and God repented of the Evil,
that He had Said
that he would do unto them;
and He did it not.

THE OYINBOS GENERALLY MISS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE TESTIMONY- IT IS ABOUT PROVING THAT EVEN DESTINY DECREED BY GOD HIMSELF CAN BE CHANGED.



THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "SEEING THE FUTURE," BECAUSE THE FUTURE, BY DEFINITION, DOES NOT EXIST. AT ALL.

What can be seen is INTENT.

It takes Power to forsee an INTENDED FUTURE.

It takes Powerlessness to be unable to perceive one's own Future.

If someone with Power gives a Prediction to someone without, they are adding Power to the hitherto Powerless, making them even more Powerful than themself.



. DEUTERONOMY 28:13,44.

13. And The LORD shall make thee
the head, and not the tail;
and thou shalt be above only,
and thou shalt not be beneath;
if that thou hearken
unto The Commandments
of The LORD thy God,
Which I Command thee this day,
to observe and to do them:
44. He shall lend to thee,
and thou shalt not lend to him:
he shall be the head,
and thou shalt be the tail.

THE WICKEDNESS OF PROPHETS LIES IN NOT WARNING PEOPLE THAT REQUIRING A PROPHET IS AN ACCURSED STATE.

God always intended for every man and every woman to be their own Prophet or Prophetess.

That is not what the Prophets and Prophtesses indended.

To play upon the ignorance of your Neighbours is as wicked as it gets.



WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE THE BIBLE?



THAT IS AS STUPID AS IT GETS- WHY DO YOU LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET?



I STAND CORRECTED: AFTER DECLARING THAT DESTINY CANNOT BE CHANGED, YOU LIST THREE WAYS DESTINY CAN BE CHANGED!



HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE, IF "DESTINY CANNOT BE CHANGED?"

Nobody can change your destiny, yes! If God has destined you to be a great leader, your destiny remains unchangeable!

However, what enemies can do is transfer your glory, but they can't change your destiny.

Nobody can use your destiny, but they can use your glory

judedwriter:
Nobody can change your destiny, yes! If God has destined you to be a great leader, your destiny remains unchangeable! However, what enemies can do is transfer your glory, but they can't change your destiny.
Nobody can use your destiny, but they can use your glory.
However, if you don't fulfill destiny, it becomes wasted.

When these so-called enemies transfer your glory, do you still become a great leader?

When these enemies use your glory, doesn't that impact this so-called destiny of yours in some way or form?

if you don't fulfill this so-called destiny by wasting it, don't you see how you have "changed" it by your refusal to fulfill it?

By the way, why is a person who claims to be of Christian holding strong to an idea that is wholly pagan?