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The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Omicron007: 7:45pm On Jul 31, 2022
Let me categorically say that I will never subscribe to the notion that the North holds the aces in the presidentia[/b]l elections pack of cards in Nigeria.

This notion is a myth. It is not backed by evidence. And it is on this basis that they arrogantly expect people in the South to pander to them, while they make no attempts to woo those from the South.

Let's get some facts straight.

1. [b]Since 2003, whenever the North had a horse in the presidential race, they have always voted as a block to back that horse.

Against Obasanjo, they voted for Buhari as the attached map shows. On the two occasions against Jonathan, the North voted for Buhari. The only time this pattern did not matter was in 2007 when it was Buhari, Yar'Adua, and Atiku running for office.

2. The block votes of the North have never been sufficient in winning them any election since 2003. The only time this block produced victory was in 2015 against Jonathan - when the South West allied with the block votes of the North.

3. The North definitely does not have more numbers than the South. They have traditionally been more civically inclined, with practically everyone of voting age getting registered and turning up for elections.

The voter apathy in the South has traditionally been a self-inflicted handicap that fuels the myth of the "numbers" of the North. Despite this "advantage" and the shenanigans of underaged voting, ballot box stuffing, and the influx of elements from across the border during elections, the North has still never been able to win any elections on their own.

4. So, if you think you need them, I guarantee you that they need you as much. So why are they asking you to woo them and are not making any attempt to woo you? Why is no one thanking you a Southerner for supporting Atiku, but you are on Twitter thanking every Fulani person who is supporting Peter Obi as if they are doing you a favour? Why is every riff-raff asking Obi to come see their Imams and leaders if he wants their votes, when no one is asking Atiku to come see your pastors if he wants your own votes?


5. When we had Yar'adua, Buhari, and Atiku...the North been still didn't rate Atiku. Why will they rate him now? Because ethnicity and religion will always come first for many of them. Stop trying to justify yourself to any adult asking you silly questions - you won't convert anybody asking you of such. They are only patronizing you. Save yourself some respect.

6. Nigeria has never been more divided and it is not my fault.

People are going to use whatever to win the elections - religion and ethnicity will be major parts for sure. Tinubu's supporters are mostly Yoruba (8 out of 10 people I see supporting him online are either Olakunle or Adeniji). The bulk of Atiku's supporters are Northerners and Muslims. Peter Obi has a catchment area - the South-East, the South-South, and CHRISTIANS. While it is good to make appearances in places we know for sure he is not liked, he should not lose focus of where his true constituency is and milk every vote he can from there. Let him visit more churches and get more pastors to spread his message. Don't kid yourself, they are doing the same thing in the North.

7. The Middle Belt (I will stone anybody that calls us the North again), are the swing states. With next year's elections taking a very regional and religious dimension already, this region that has no dog in the race could decide things for us. The people here are winnable unlike those in the West and the North. Obi should gain grounds here, the South East and South South are already self-running.

8. Peter Obi can win, and he does not need to be loved everywhere, nor does he need to win everywhere.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by SpatialKing(m): 7:47pm On Jul 31, 2022
You are right

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Omicron007: 7:51pm On Jul 31, 2022
SpatialKing:
You are right

It is crystal clear.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by leksite120(m): 7:52pm On Jul 31, 2022
Your calculation is one-sided.
The same way North need just a region in South to win is the same way southern votes cannot secure a win without at least two regions from the North.

See it like this, if someone has the whole South votes and another person has the whole north votes, the northern person would win. Infact if someone has the whole South without having NW and NE support, he'll still not win.

Forget south, SW is the only vote power in south. The whole votes SE gave Atiku which is like 90% vote in the last election is just something a state like Kano can cover for one party, so imagine that.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Oghene1st: 8:02pm On Jul 31, 2022
I always tell people that if the South is United, the core North will be a slave to the South forever. If you check the voting pattern, Plateau and Taraba always lean towards Southern Candidates. Also likely is Benue, Kogi and Kwara because these ones don't consider themselves Northerners.

Once the South is United for a candidate, the above mentioned northern states will tilt towards Southern Candidate come 2023.

But since the South is divided, the South East and South South (Christian dominated parts in the South) have upper hand in wooing Christian dominated Northern state of Taraba, Plateau and Benue for Obi by religious campaign while Kogi and Kwara will definitely go for Tinubu. Then, Obi, Tinubu and Atiku can share the votes in core North. Obi should use Christian base campaign in the core North so that Christian voters in Adamawa, Nasarawa, Bauchi, Gombe, Kebbi, Yobe, Kaduna, etc can vote Obi while Tinubu uses Muslim/Muslim ticket to steal those Muslims in Muslim dominated states in North like Katsina, Borno, Yobe, Jigawa, Kano, Sokoto, Niger, etc.

The truth is, I am one of those southerners that don't see the north as threat to us. History is there. We are talking about civilian admin, not military. Buhari couldn't have won without South West in 2015 and 2019.

South should start seeing themselves as kingmakers in this country, because we are.

As it stands, Atiku is the 3rd force.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by 3ple9iner: 8:14pm On Jul 31, 2022
calculate the number of voters in the North and that in the South, you would get your answer.

A candidate can get 1m+ in the north and his closest rival could get 800k+ or 1m too.

In the south only few states can vote of this.


Also in the North, there is usually no voter apathy like in the south, though I believe it would change in this election.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Obidient4life2: 8:28pm On Jul 31, 2022
Omicron007:
Let me categorically say that I will never subscribe to the notion that the North holds the aces in the presidential elections pack of cards in Nigeria.

This notion is a myth. It is not backed by evidence. And it is on this basis that they arrogantly expect people in the South to pander to them, while they make no attempts to woo those from the South.

Let's get some facts straight.

1. Since 2003, whenever the North had a horse in the presidential race, they have always voted as a block to back that horse.
Against Obasanjo, they voted for Buhari as the attached map shows. On the two occasions against Jonathan, the North voted for Buhari. The only time this pattern did not matter was in 2007 when it was Buhari, Yar'Adua, and Atiku running for office.

2. The block votes of the North have never been sufficient in winning them any election since 2003. The only time this block produced victory was in 2015 against Jonathan - when the South West allied with the block votes of the North.

3. The North definitely does not have more numbers than the South. They have traditionally been more civically inclined, with practically everyone of voting age getting registered and turning up for elections.

The voter apathy in the South has traditionally been a self-inflicted handicap that fuels the myth of the "numbers" of the North. Despite this "advantage" and the shenanigans of underaged voting, ballot box stuffing, and the influx of elements from across the border during elections, the North has still never been able to win any elections on their own.

4. So, if you think you need them, I guarantee you that they need you as much. So why are they asking you to woo them and are not making any attempt to woo you? Why is no one thanking you a Southerner for supporting Atiku, but you are on Twitter thanking every Fulani person who is supporting Peter Obi as if they are doing you a favour? Why is every riff-raff asking Obi to come see their Imams and leaders if he wants their votes, when no one is asking Atiku to come see your pastors if he wants your own votes?


5. When we had Yar'adua, Buhari, and Atiku...the North been still didn't rate Atiku. Why will they rate him now? Because ethnicity and religion will always come first for many of them. Stop trying to justify yourself to any adult asking you silly questions - you won't convert anybody asking you of such. They are only patronizing you. Save yourself some respect.

6. Nigeria has never been more divided and it is not my fault.

People are going to use whatever to win the elections - religion and ethnicity will be major parts for sure. Tinubu's supporters are mostly Yoruba (8 out of 10 people I see supporting him online are either Olakunle or Adeniji). The bulk of Atiku's supporters are Northerners and Muslims. Peter Obi has a catchment area - the South-East, the South-South, and CHRISTIANS. While it is good to make appearances in places we know for sure he is not liked, he should not lose focus of where his true constituency is and milk every vote he can from there. Let him visit more churches and get more pastors to spread his message. Don't kid yourself, they are doing the same thing in the North.

7. The Middle Belt (I will stone anybody that calls us the North again), are the swing states. With next year's elections taking a very regional and religious dimension already, this region that has no dog in the race could decide things for us. The people here are winnable unlike those in the West and the North. Obi should gain grounds here, the South East and South South are already self-running.

8. Peter Obi can win, and he does not need to be loved everywhere, nor does he need to win everywhere.

100% factos

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Obidient4life2: 8:29pm On Jul 31, 2022
In 2011 Jonathan won Buhari with 11 million votes while Buhari won Jonathan with just 2 million votes.
In election every region has a say.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Abdu81: 9:19pm On Jul 31, 2022
We understand this, is very clear.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Abdu81: 9:21pm On Jul 31, 2022
3ple9iner:
calculate the number of voters in the North and that in the South, you would get your answer.

A candidate can get 1m+ in the north and his closest rival could get 800k+ or 1m too.

In the south only few states can vote of this.


Also in the North, there is usually no voter apathy like in the south, though I believe it would change in this election.

this election is going to change alot of things, especially views, when you remove the north central states how many core north states remains.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by 3ple9iner: 9:34pm On Jul 31, 2022
Abdu81:
this election is going to change alot of things, especially views, when you remove the north central states how many core north states remains.
Yes I know, in this election, the North Central would play a role of decider.
My thoughts though.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by mrvitalis(m): 9:36pm On Jul 31, 2022
3ple9iner:
calculate the number of voters in the North and that in the South, you would get your answer.

A candidate can get 1m+ in the north and his closest rival could get 800k+ or 1m too.

In the south only few states can vote of this.


Also in the North, there is usually no voter apathy like in the south, though I believe it would change in this election.

Lol that's with manual accreditation that they manipulate ...check Northern votes 80% are manual accreditation ..while south is less than 20% ...now no more manual accreditation ...so don't expect miracle vote from the north

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Starcrest1: 7:39am On Aug 01, 2022
This analysis is on point. But let me add something, You could see how northerners voted Buhari always even though he changes party like water, parties without structure. This is for the structure people.

Secondly this time around, three people that will share the northern votes are Tinubu, Atiku and Kwankwaso, so I wonder how they will be banking on the bulk votes there. Obi is winning this unless two people steps down from the three I mentioned above.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Authoreety: 7:49am On Aug 01, 2022
Oj
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by adebolabrown: 7:49am On Aug 01, 2022
Interesting read, let's watch and see.

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by kolafolabi(m): 7:49am On Aug 01, 2022
You joined a bus in 2015, the driver took you to 1984. In 2019, you refused to come down from the bus and the driver took you to 1960. Now the driver is tired but want his conductor to continue driving? You still no wan come down abi? Where do you think the conductor is going?

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Loldorable: 7:49am On Aug 01, 2022
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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by SultanOfPuna: 7:50am On Aug 01, 2022
Ok
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by sotall(m): 7:50am On Aug 01, 2022
undecided
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Akwamkpuruamu: 7:50am On Aug 01, 2022
Hmmm
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by anonimi: 7:51am On Aug 01, 2022
Omicron007:
8. Peter Obi can win, and he does not need to be loved everywhere, nor does he need to win everywhere.

This is the bottom-line of the ofege analysis to make the fraudulent scammer president next year, as Thiefnuibu made Bubu in 2015 with his own fake sainthood that has been revealed to be the worst corrupt administration since 1960

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by barbstee(m): 7:51am On Aug 01, 2022
No one region can make the presidency by themselves and this is what the Easterners seems not to understand you can't keep hating people and expect them to turn around and support you during election.
It doesn't work that way.

That said there is no doubt in the fact that the North has the number and the needed unity for elections unlike the south


BAT 2023

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Nsonaso(m): 7:51am On Aug 01, 2022
Ha
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by BleedTears: 7:52am On Aug 01, 2022
Hello
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Akwamkpuruamu: 7:53am On Aug 01, 2022
leksite120:
Your calculation is one-sided.
The same way North need just a region in South to win is the same way southern votes cannot secure a win without at least two regions from the North.

See it like this, if someone has the whole South votes and another person has the whole north votes, the northern person would win. Infact if someone has the whole South without having NW and NE support, he'll still not win.

Forget south, SW is the only vote power in south. The whole votes SE gave Atiku which is like 90% vote in the last election is just something a state like Kano can cover for one party, so imagine that.

Not true. GEJ never had NE and NW votes, yet he won

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by anonimi: 7:53am On Aug 01, 2022
Samuhas:
Great jouranlism

Or great packaging to make fraudlent Obi saint for looting our treasury as Bubu is doingrecklessly after Thiefnuibu packaging seven years ago

fyneguy:
Peter Obi said, at the 2016 edition of the platform, that he had only one wristwatch for many years.

Pictures have exposed the lie.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlzNgQJd66s

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Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by BleedTears: 7:53am On Aug 01, 2022
mrvitalis:

Lol that's with manual accreditation that they manipulate ...check Northern votes 80% are manual accreditation ..while south is less than 20% ...now no more manual accreditation ...so don't expect miracle vote from the north
Time will tell.
Re: The Misconception About Votes From Northern Nigeria by Jerrydox(m): 7:54am On Aug 01, 2022
This post was initially written by Itodo Pope on his Facebook page.

You posted it here without acknowledging the writer.

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