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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by LogicBomb8: 12:20am On Aug 06, 2022 |
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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Karnice600: 2:25am On Aug 06, 2022 |
jetpack: Wey you for just keep kwayet wakka pass. Just open mouth waah, disgracing the committee of brothers. Must you talk? |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Karnice600: 2:34am On Aug 06, 2022 |
AlphaTaikun:Na so joor. Correct guy. I'm sure Wisdom runs in your family. It is clear...meanwhile some other people here seem to be genetically stupid. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Karnice600: 2:43am On Aug 06, 2022 |
sagitariusbaby:Don't waste your time on that boy. He's been sold out to ''aignorance''(arrogance + ignorance) 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Daum: 3:10am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Thank God we don't have China as a neighbor. The Chinese are more domineering than the Americans. The Americans know how to make deals. Americans can even make deal with the devil they don't mind. China on the other hand just uses it's numbers to intimidate others. Like these guys are 1.4 billion. They have an army of 2 million. They have the numbers. High numbers. They have grown in the space of 40 years like no other nation has grown. During the leadership of Chairman Mao, China was very poor. They had a disastrous leap forward and cultural revolution that destroyed their identity. But like I said, the Americans can make deal with anyone...When China opened up to a free market system which is against the principles of Karl Marx to be sincere, it was America and her allies who came in with the big bag to invest. They saw cheap labor and took advantage of it.... The Chinese used that opportunity to lift over 300 milion people out of poverty. That makes me laugh when I see so many anti western comments...you ask yourself who has Russia lifted. The Russians couldn't even help China up. The Americans first helped the Chinese against the Japanese and then helped the Chinese again in their economic miracle. Is capitalism and free market not beautiful...it built the power houses in South Korea and Japan. Singapore and Hong Kong....See how it is revolutionizing the Taiwanese economy. I think China should just find a way to maintain the status quo and get a leader who is less assertive over his Taiwan claims. They should lure in the Taiwanese that's all. It's foolish shooting your own people and destroying your own economy and lives of people to prove a point that you're big. Yes the world knows you're big. We respect you.... it would be foolish to let the Americans cause another war between you and your kins... Well like all dictatorships they're kin on brutality. If they could shoot their own students in Tianamen, they can shoot dissident Taiwanese. The problem with Taiwan are the new generation who have no idea what china is. They don't even care, to them all their lives have been in Taiwan. They're free to travel and do anything they want. They see no reason why they should even go back to the mainland. Those guys are the problem. I wish for peace between them. Till then America will be a deterrent to China for now.. 3 Likes |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 7:08am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Parkji:Why shouldn't they?! They declared it in Iraq and Libya. Who are they afraid of in Ukraine?! There are levels to this thing. If China attacks Taiwan tomorrow, nothing will happen. Take it or leave it. |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by martineverest(m): 7:18am On Aug 06, 2022 |
TechtraGadgets:lol...they are replacing cheap Chinese labours with Indins and Vietnameses China needs the West more than the West need china 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Kingcalls: 7:54am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Offpointng: America fought Cuba back in the 60s cos the aligned with USSR... America somehow found a way to dismantle USSR, during the cold War... 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Offpointng: 8:03am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Kingcalls: Now you see why Mexico will not even dare |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by seleroms2(m): 8:25am On Aug 06, 2022 |
VEHINTOLAR:That video you watched was misleading. It was from a joint military operation with US and Japan 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by VEHINTOLAR: 8:28am On Aug 06, 2022 |
seleroms2: How did you know that it was the video you're talking about here that I watched ? |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by seleroms2(m): 9:39am On Aug 06, 2022 |
I am 100 percent sure it's the video and I have had to correct this misconception in several forums The video is from the recently concluded joint south Korea, Japan and US military exercises and shows the US carrier task force group in parade formation. There's indeed a B1 Lancer long range strategic bomber leading the formation of the air wing parade. Closely escorting the B1 are F35C fighters. The civilian looking aircraft in the 2nd wave that could be mistaken for the speaker's aircraft is an AWACs from the carrier airwing escorted by F15C fighting eagle fighters Note that there are 2nos aircraft carriers in the video, the only dual deployment of carrier groups in the past 12 months in the joint exercises mentioned above. Normally, carrier task force groups have thousands of miles separating them as their geographic AORs are widely dispersed. 2ndly, in standard "alert" formation or combat stations, the surface ships of a carrier group can be dispersed well over 30-40km, the subsurface craft well in excess of 70km ahead of behind on flanking patrols and the CAG or combat air group would be flying 24/7 CAPs or combat air patrols in rotations of 4 fighters and 1 AWACs airborne and covering a 300km radius of control around the carrier group � Take note that the journey of her flight wasn't telivised until the plane landed squote author=VEHINTOLAR post=115431086] How did you know that it was the video you're talking about here that I watched ?[/quote] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Kingcalls: 9:47am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Offpointng: So y cant America respect other regions ?? |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by goodheart01: 9:59am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Lovenorth: China most powerful country on earth? I’m not surprised this is coming from a Fulani bandit like you 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Brunosamel(m): 10:09am On Aug 06, 2022 |
IbomFinest:Abegi talk bout topic you have vast knowledge of not just any topic |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Offpointng: 10:17am On Aug 06, 2022 |
Kingcalls: Trying to deliver us from the communist who yall think are better compared to the West 2 Likes |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by smallrincowis16(m): 11:00am On Aug 06, 2022 |
bestman09: Did you say the same for dombass?? |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by VEHINTOLAR: 11:11am On Aug 06, 2022 |
seleroms2:It's okay,you seem to know what you're saying. Many thanks for the detailed analysis. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Xiaohei(m): 12:14pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
sonofElElyon: The Ukrainian / Russia crisis is radically different from the US - Taiwan agreements. The US. has an agreement with Taiwan to defend it in times of war. Interestingly, The US. will gladly welcome a war with China anytime, any day because they’ll be bipartisan support for the war since majority of both the Republican and Democratic Party agree China is a stronger threat (financially and militarily ) than any other country on earth. Similarly, America will welcome the war because it’ll allow it to slow down China’s economic growth. May peace prevail. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Kingcalls: 12:49pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Offpointng: So u cant see what democracy is doing?? Democracy is a manipulative system that takes advantage of the system |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by LogicBomb8: 1:07pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Karnice600:nairaland abeg no ki us what is dis? |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by sonofElElyon: 2:32pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Xiaohei: You forget that China is a nuclear power with capacity to hit mainland USA 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Xiaohei(m): 4:45pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
sonofElElyon: Of course I’m aware of that. And don’t forget the US. can hit China from either Japan or South Korea. And do not forget the American military bases in Guam! May peace prevail because ordinary Chinese folks do not want wars. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Anuchauc: 6:13pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Family matter |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by TechtraGadgets: 8:48pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Amayabor1: Which countries recognizes China and Taiwan as two separate countries? And does the US recognize Taiwan as a separate country? Let's begin there 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Amayabor1: 9:12pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
TechtraGadgets: Your question is funny man. The internet is there for you to learn. There are countries that recognise Taiwan as an independent country. simple and short. The US doesn't recognise Taiwan as an independent country. 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by TechtraGadgets: 10:07pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Amayabor1: You can't name the countries. 13 countries recognize Taiwan as governing all of China, not as an independent country separate from China. 180 recognize PRC as governing all of China including Taiwan. My question is not funny. Careless narcissists like Pelosi will cause the next major war not Xi Jinping. Pelosi achieved nothing, zero!, by going to Taiwan, except protecting her fragile ego 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Amayabor1: 7:08am On Aug 07, 2022 |
TechtraGadgets: That is not true. There are some things you need to understand; 1. In times past, the government of Taiwan accepted the one china principle (that China is one country and that the government of the republic of china (Taiwan) is the legitimate govt of the whole of china (including Taiwan, mainland china, macau, hong kong). That was in the past. Currently, the government of Taiwan no longer support the one china principle. Instead, they have stated severally that China and Taiwan are seperate, independent countries. 2. The creation and continuity of a state is a not a legal question. Declarations and recognition by other states cannot have any impact on their existence. According to the declaratory theory of recognition, the recognition of third states are not a requirement for being a state. So, whether a country recognises Taiwan as independent or not has little or no significance. Under the International Law, Article 1 of the Montevideo Conference, 1933 defines the state as a person and lays down following essentials that an entity should possess in order to acquire recognition as a state; A. must possess a permanent population, B. A defined territory C. A government, and D. The capacity to conduct international relations. Taiwan fulfills all the criteria. 3. The countries that recognise Taiwan recognize it as an INDEPENDENT COUNTRY (except you are telling me that you don't know what an independent country is). Moreover, like i have pointed out, statehood doesn't rely on recognition. It is for this reason that china earnestly want to bring Taiwan under it's rule, because without that, Taiwan will continue to operate as an independent, sovereign State! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:29am On Aug 07, 2022 |
Offpointng: What a joke, right? Mexico is seeking US assistance in order to help the Mexican Army win the losing battle with the cartels so these guys make no sense. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by fxexperts: 2:38pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Goddson: If I say this guy is still a kid he will not believe. Keep going about your normal line of delivery from slavery rubbish talk. You for one doesn't even know what slavery is about. Because your ancestors where taken as slaves mean you still have to carry the slave tag on your forehead, then by all means suit yourself. You are a slave to the west, but I am not, and like I said I have had face to face dealings with American's and Europeans on many occasion. Don't think because i am on a faceless forum with you mean I am like you or will ever be like you. God forbid. You are still obviously a kid with the slavery mentality wrap around your forward, that is why you are still thinking you have to fight to break away from your chains of slavery. You know nothing about life and human psychology, I doubt if you are even educated. You fill your heart with hate and wish evil on the west is that not witchcraft in action, all because you want to break your chain slavery, because you think of yourself as a slave, and the only way to get ride of your chains is to change from one slave master (West) to another(Asia). This will be my last reply to you. Stop harboring such mentality it will only destroy you. Peace. ike007: A reasonable reply. But why didn't Russia use diplomacy and negotiation to win Ukraine over and China Negotiation to win Win Taiwan over. Why just the show of force. And trust me these countries are signing up to be members of NATO because of the fact they cannot trust Russia and China. Don't be the big bad neighbor next door and expect all your neighbors to love you. no you only get what you give out. Goddson:Says the ignorant one. tishbite42:Why has God not killed the devil yet. Because in trial and tribulation people tend to seek their savior and master. If Russia is defeated today. Then there will be no need for NATO anymore. no country will sign up for that shit. Russians are the ones making NATO to grow more in numbers. Same reason why you had pay extra to employ local Vigilante in your area due to increase in criminal activities in your area. Know this and know peace. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 3:20pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Parkji:Simple answer to your question: they can't. I know that and you know that. 1 Like |
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 3:23pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
fxexperts:Forget your yarnings, the goal of US/NATO is to destroy Russia inorder to create a unipolar world but they can't. |
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