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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by StivoH2022: 9:19am On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
Moi won - fairly - it quite easy to predict kenya election - it's a tribal census. This is what Chesoni told opposition in 1990s. It was only in 2002 when they woke up and united - did they defeat KANU.

The same with Tuesday election - get an excel - of tribal composition in each county - and in 20 minutes you can predict the winner.

This is simple tribal census that will be happening - play with percentages a little - and you have the answer.


You always base your arguments to Uhuruto tyranny of numbers.....then why did UhuRuto have to rig

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:43am On Aug 07, 2022
Raila rigged too. Stronghold rigging always happen - this why digital register/biometrics are critical. Remote rigging in NEP/Northern Kenya also happen but numbers are few.

To successfully rig - you need total collusion - this can only happen in this election in Luo Nyanza and Kalenjin land - because POS/Agents are hired from local community - and in those areas almost everyone is working to maximize the voters. This is top up rigging that shows up in turnout of 90% - which are improbable.

Now Uhuru trying to pull rigging it Mt kenya is laughable - he wont succeed - because like Kuria post shows - everyone is vigilant. He wont be able to move without being nabbed.

Now when I do my modelling - I factor rigging. The rigging in 2013/2017/2007 in Mt Kenya shows up in unusually high turnout - similar to Luo Nyanza. Mt kenya turnout this time will be low....because apart from lack of enthusiasm - top up rigging wont be there. But Kalenjin will have enthusiasm and top up rigging...and so will Luos.

All that is factored...and come Tuesday night - Ruto team will win big by 55-57%, win parliament by 60%, senate/governors by 57%.


StivoH2022:


You always base your arguments to Uhuruto tyranny of numbers.....then why did UhuRuto have to rig

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by StivoH2022: 10:14am On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
Raila rigged too. Stronghold rigging always happen - this why digital register/biometrics are critical. Remote rigging in NEP/Northern Kenya also happen but numbers are few.

To successfully rig - you need total collusion - this can only happen in this election in Luo Nyanza and Kalenjin land - because POS/Agents are hired from local community - and in those areas almost everyone is working to maximize the voters. This is top up rigging that shows up in turnout of 90% - which are improbable.

Now Uhuru trying to pull rigging it Mt kenya is laughable - he wont succeed - because like Kuria post shows - everyone is vigilant. He wont be able to move without being nabbed.

Now when I do my modelling - I factor rigging. The rigging in 2013/2017/2007 in Mt Kenya shows up in unusually high turnout - similar to Luo Nyanza. Mt kenya turnout this time will be low....because apart from lack of enthusiasm - top up rigging wont be there. But Kalenjin will have enthusiasm and top up rigging...and so will Luos.

All that is factored...and come Tuesday night - Ruto team will win big by 55-57%, win parliament by 60%, senate/governors by 57%.



It's not easy to beat the state even as Kuria has wrote you can tell vigilance is not enough without the authorities support...whatever the government has planned will still go through....the only thing the public can do is shouting/demonstrate

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by StivoH2022: 10:21am On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
Raila rigged too. Stronghold rigging always happen - this why digital register/biometrics are critical. Remote rigging in NEP/Northern Kenya also happen but numbers are few.

To successfully rig - you need total collusion - this can only happen in this election in Luo Nyanza and Kalenjin land - because POS/Agents are hired from local community - and in those areas almost everyone is working to maximize the voters. This is top up rigging that shows up in turnout of 90% - which are improbable.

Now Uhuru trying to pull rigging it Mt kenya is laughable - he wont succeed - because like Kuria post shows - everyone is vigilant. He wont be able to move without being nabbed.

Now when I do my modelling - I factor rigging. The rigging in 2013/2017/2007 in Mt Kenya shows up in unusually high turnout - similar to Luo Nyanza. Mt kenya turnout this time will be low....because apart from lack of enthusiasm - top up rigging wont be there. But Kalenjin will have enthusiasm and top up rigging...and so will Luos.

All that is factored...and come Tuesday night - Ruto team will win big by 55-57%, win parliament by 60%, senate/governors by 57%.



2017 IEBC announced the final results even before they received all form 34Bs that come from the polling statios...that means election was not rigged at the polling level but on the final one (is it 34A or?) ...the same reason they refused to open the server
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:35am On Aug 07, 2022
Unless the rigging become brazen - meaning forcefully kidnapping ROS like in 2007 and forcing them to change forms at gunpoint - sparking war it cannot happen.

Counter-intelligence/vigilance is enough to disrupt any rigging plans. Already those in Kiambu are scared and running to police.

What helps Ruto-Rigathi is first hand experience in these kind of games - both having served in Harambee hse - Moi era and in 2013-2017

Ruto has survived this long - the last 5yrs - because he runs a parrallel NIS - counter-intelligence - that inform him of everything happening - so he can devise a counter-plan.

Raila failed because he was BLIND - apart from 2007 when Ruto help him set up basic counter-intelligence - 2013/2017 - he knew nothing - he was just expecting victory smiley

StivoH2022:


It's not easy to beat the state even as Kuria has wrote you can tell vigilance is not enough without the authorities support...whatever the government has planned will still go through....the only thing the public can do is shouting/demonstrate
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:38am On Aug 07, 2022
Whoever has Chebukati (Presidential PO) has one leg inside because he is one who will be tallying the results. The presidential election will be declared by computing all the 46,000 polling station results. The polling station is final. This make rigging very hard.

As for NASA - servers and other nonsense - they never presented evidence of rigging - the election was annulled due to process issues - the result were not imputed.

StivoH2022:

2017 IEBC announced the final results even before they received all form 34Bs that come from the polling statios...that means election was not rigged at the polling level but on the final one (is it 34A or?) ...the same reason they refused to open the server
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 10:40am On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
Of all the hilarious things Kenya ex-president Uhuru has done; launching this ship tops it.

Thankfully there was heavy rain that day - and he didnt get to cut the ribbon smiley
khekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhe

Launching a rusted ship?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:05am On Aug 07, 2022
He is been desperate after losing support. Yesterday he launched two roads still under construction. That ship is under construction - they should at least have painted it with undercoat.
Kazikazi:
khekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhekhe

Launching a rusted ship?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by StivoH2022: 11:17am On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
Unless the rigging become brazen - meaning forcefully kidnapping ROS like in 2007 and forcing them to change forms at gunpoint - sparking war it cannot happen.

Counter-intelligence/vigilance is enough to disrupt any rigging plans. Already those in Kiambu are scared and running to police.

What helps Ruto-Rigathi is first hand experience in these kind of games - both having served in Harambee hse - Moi era and in 2013-2017

Ruto has survived this long - the last 5yrs - because he runs a parrallel NIS - counter-intelligence - that inform him of everything happening - so he can devise a counter-plan.

Raila failed because he was BLIND - apart from 2007 when Ruto help him set up basic counter-intelligence - 2013/2017 - he knew nothing - he was just expecting victory smiley


Ruto or anyone as an individual can't beat the system whether they have experience or not, what matters is who has influence to the authorities.... system runs from President,DCI,IG,Tycoons,international community,Chiefs,Judiciary....many individuals who worked for Moi
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 11:20am On Aug 07, 2022
Commonwealth games looking good for Nigeria this year.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 11:33am On Aug 07, 2022
StivoH2022:


Ruto or anyone as an individual can't beat the system whether they have experience or not, what matters is who has influence to the authorities.... system runs from President,DCI,IG,Tycoons,international community,Chiefs,Judiciary....many individuals who worked for Moi
If they have been unable to cripple Ruto the last 5yrs what can a lameduck president do now... nobody listening to him or DCI now...the so called system is split..only Luos in iebc and systems are assisting Raila..don't be surprised Ruto is going to outrig Raila and systems... because him and Rigathi are experienced in these games.Its gov that has been complaining the most to IEBC .Sit there thinking you're only side rigging and compromising election..you will be surprised.What we don't want is brazen on your face rigging that can takes us to 2007..so I wish both sides best of luck.. just don't make a mess that can spark violence
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 12:45pm On Aug 07, 2022
Abuja Central District---Recent drive through.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3GQji5c0N0

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 12:55pm On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
He is been desperate after losing support. Yesterday he launched two roads still under construction. That ship is under construction - they should at least have painted it with undercoat.
Which support is he seeking since he is on a way out?
I think a guy just sipped some few chang'aa hence he failed to see the colour of a ship

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 12:58pm On Aug 07, 2022
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 1:36pm On Aug 07, 2022
GeneralDae:
Commonwealth games looking good for Nigeria this year.
From the look of things, we might just end up being the top African country at the game.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 1:37pm On Aug 07, 2022
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 2:00pm On Aug 07, 2022
Kazikazi:
Which support is he seeking since he is on a way out?
I think a guy just sipped some few chang'aa hence he failed to see the colour of a ship
He is desperate because he knows Ruto will bankrupt Kenyatta empire...even past campaign hour...he has scheduled a last ditch interview to spew tribal hatred to his Mt Kenya people.I think might cry today as beg folks to save him
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 2:13pm On Aug 07, 2022
obaaderemi:
From the look of things, we might just end up being the top African country at the game.
Funny thing is that our women have been the ones winning the golds this time.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by kikuyu1(m): 3:04pm On Aug 07, 2022
Jana I heard news for srs concern ! CIA operatives are currently in country embedded in the IEBC to ensure a win for their man- you can guess who.
How? I've no idea, likely inputting false data and/or decreasing numbers they don't like. They're supremely confident.....
I know the West went all out in 2013 to help RAO win and were frankly SHOCKED at the resilience of a tiny developing nation. Brit high commish OPENLY campaigned for ODM while US African Secretary publicly threatened about "choices have consequences.". Rmbr how immediately after we were hit with the Westgate, next yr Lamu attacks and the following year's horrific Garissa massacre. They NEVER stop but just return to the drawing board and failed again in 2017. I've no specifics on their IEBC trickery but I also do know Ruto and Kenyans won't allow any f'ery.
Watch this space.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:18pm On Aug 07, 2022
kikuyu1:
Jana I heard news for srs concern ! CIA operatives are currently in country embedded in the IEBC to ensure a win for their man- you can guess who.
How? I've no idea, likely inputting false data and/or decreasing numbers they don't like. They're supremely confident.....
I know the West went all out in 2013 to help RAO win and were frankly SHOCKED at the resilience of a tiny developing nation. Brit high commish OPENLY campaigned for ODM while US African Secretary publicly threatened about "choices have consequences.". Rmbr how immediately after we were hit with the Westgate, next yr Lamu attacks and the following year's horrific Garissa massacre. They NEVER stop but just return to the drawing board and failed again in 2017. I've no specifics on their IEBC trickery but I also do know Ruto and Kenyans won't allow any f'ery.
Watch this space.
Ruto would already have known if they were involved.Ruto and Museveni are very tight..its Museveni who arranged Ruto visit to Washington DC recently.Ruto has serious intelligence..nothing moves in IEBC even a piece of paper without information reaching him.Most of your guys just don't understand what a beast Ruto is..the man doesn't sleep.Uhuru is panicked and is going to go live to plead to your people to save him because he is done...he is likely to weep.He thought it was a joke but by end of the week they will be running to exile as they bankrupted. Most uhuru elite have already booked exit flight because they have thrown everything and it not working.Kenya intelligence have already given uhuru the grim numbers. Uhuru has tried to find Ruto tallying and monitoring systems to dismantle them but he's been unable.. The poor drunkard knows what Ruto is capable of..and is having loose bowels movements

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 3:44pm On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
He is desperate because he knows Ruto will bankrupt Kenyatta empire...even past campaign hour...he has scheduled a last ditch interview to spew tribal hatred to his Mt Kenya people.I think might cry today as beg folks to save him
I don't understand how on earth can you choose to love one thief and hates another thief. Kenya's tribalism on a show again. Tribalism is as bad as witchcraft

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 3:48pm On Aug 07, 2022
Kazikazi:
I don't understand how on earth can you choose to love one thief and hates another thief. Kenya's tribalism on a show again. Tribalism is as bad as witchcraft
When all of them are thieves or politicians you look for redeeming characters.For example Kenya is corrupt and very tribal but it's still miles ahead of Tanzania... meaning there are redeeming attributes that Kenyans have.You can be less tribal and corrupt but if you're lazy as Tanzanian you're going nowhere still...Kenyans we want someone who can deliver inspite and despite corruption & tribalism
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:07pm On Aug 07, 2022
Part of the reason why Uhuru will likely plunge Kenya into a crisis - he is wanted dead or alive by friends and foes.

SportPesa had become of kenyan iconic companies - crossing 1 billion dollars in revenue - sponsoring English premium League Hull City and Formulae one.

The main owner was guy who financed Uhuru presidential bid - that didnt stop Uhuru from grabbing it from him.

Despite being already the richest of African with Mois - he has proceeded to grab almost everything - and has totally captured the kenya state. It's not enough that they own anything close to 0.5-1million acres including about 15,000 acres (11,000 Northland City & 2,000 in Karen) in Nairobi city alone.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by StivoH2022: 4:31pm On Aug 07, 2022
rvp20182:
When all of them are thieves or politicians you look for redeeming characters.For example Kenya is corrupt and very tribal but it's still miles ahead of Tanzania... meaning there are redeeming attributes that Kenyans have.You can be less tribal and corrupt but if you're lazy as Tanzanian you're going nowhere still...Kenyans we want someone who can deliver inspite and despite corruption & tribalism

William Ruto is the most corrupt person ever existed in Kenya, you can even ask Google....I can bet with you he won't be president this time...Maybe after 20years

Anyway, I wonder how can a Tanzanian have guts to try to correct Kenya's politics when they've never even tried to have a fair elections, even if a madman will get a CCM ticket 90% of them will still vote for him

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 4:39pm On Aug 07, 2022
The most corrupt remain Jomo , Moi, Uhuru, Ndegwa, Raila Odinga....Ruto wont even make top 20. Of course you're entitled to you own opinion but we are 24hrs from voting - and results will be announced - and we will find out how a perennial loser Raila backed by a drunkard Uhuru can take on the greatest political player in kenya history...and prevail. That will be something.
StivoH2022:

William Ruto is the most corrupt person ever existed in Kenya, you can even ask Google....I can bet with you he won't be president this time...Maybe after 20years

Anyway, I wonder how can a Tanzanian have guts to try to correct Kenya's politics when they've never even tried to have a fair elections, even if a madman will get a CCM ticket 90% of them will still vote for him

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