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When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 7:33pm On Aug 08, 2022
Allah says somewhere in the Koran that he sent down the Torah (OT) and Injil (NT) and confirmed them.
Muslims now claim the Bible that Allah sent has been corrupted such that wherever the stories copied into the Koran differ from the Bible,they tell you it's because the Bible is corrupted.

Can anyone tell us when exactly the Bible became corrupted

Was it before Mohammed, during the lifetime of Mohammed or after the death of Mohammed.

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 11:29pm On Aug 08, 2022
The Quran also have been corrupted.

Quran got some ideas from BARNABAS BIBLE.
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ovacoma: 4:42am On Aug 09, 2022
This is a very serious topic! There are many videos on the YouTube concerning it. Muslims have been challenged to prove it, but no one has been able to show any proof Let the knowledgeable people here, who claim this, show when and how the Bible has been corrupted.
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:11am On Aug 09, 2022
We need our allah's slaves here but trust me, we won't see them
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Hope2014(m): 7:46pm On Aug 09, 2022
Maynman:
The Quran also have been corrupted.

Quran got some ideas from BARNABAS BIBLE.
Did apostle Barnabas write his own Bible
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 7:49pm On Aug 09, 2022
Hope2014:

Did apostle Barnabas write his own Bible

Just like all books in the jewish and Christian bible, it was traditional said to be written by him
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Hope2014(m): 7:58pm On Aug 09, 2022
Maynman:


Just like all books in the jewish and Christian bible, it was traditional said to be written by him
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas
A deeper life Pastor once said Barnabas backslided and started persecuting the saints. I don't know whether it is true

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 8:00pm On Aug 09, 2022
Hope2014:

A deeper life Pastor once said Barnabas backslided and started persecuting the saints. I don't know whether it is true

Who are the “saints”?
In what century?
This are statements that can be debunked or confirmed easily…
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Hope2014(m): 8:15pm On Aug 09, 2022
Maynman:


Who are the “saints”?
In what century?
This are statements that can be debunked or confirmed easily…
Or the Christians i guess

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 8:30pm On Aug 09, 2022
Hope2014:

Or the Christians i guess

What century?

Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 4:31pm On Aug 11, 2022
See confusion in the religious room of Muhammad and allah here on nairaland


AntiChristian:


It's simple an unwritten book revealed to Jesus which he preached to the children of Israel.

It was never written during the lifetime of Jesus. His disciples may have written some parts of what he preached and this was circulated and later got corrupted by addition of what they didn't witness themselves.



Balerion:

The Injil was revealed to Isa (Jesus) not a book of account by Matthew and Mark


NOT A BOOK and AN UNWRITTEN BOOK.. See confusion galore in the religion of Muhammad

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Kobojunkie: 4:35pm On Aug 11, 2022
Hope2014:
Did apostle Barnabas write his own Bible
Whoever wrote the Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas is unknown. What is however clear from reading it is that what seems the original writings have been thoroughly corrupted to make it seem as though Jesus Christ not only endorsed Mohammed but that Mohammed was even in the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve from the beginning. grin
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Kobojunkie: 4:37pm On Aug 11, 2022
AntiChristian
It's simple an unwritten book revealed to Jesus which he preached to the children of Israel.
It was never written during the lifetime of Jesus. His disciples may have written some parts of what he preached and this was circulated and later got corrupted by addition of what they didn't witness themselves.
So what aspects of the teachings and commandments included in what are the Gospels additions that weren't witnessed by the disciples? Care to give us an idea of at least a few of them? undecided

Also, have you had time to peruse the Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas? Are we meant to believe that to be the correct Injeel of whose followers Allah spoke of? undecided

Balerion, if the Injeel was revealed to Jesus and was then lost because Jesus Christ didn't write it down, and as a result, the teachings were lost to all, why is the mention in Mohammed's writings? undecided
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 4:56pm On Aug 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Whoever wrote the Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas is unknown. What is however clear from reading it is that what seems the original writings have been thoroughly corrupted to make it seem as though Jesus Christ not only endorsed Mohammed but that Mohammed was even in the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve from the beginning. grin

The earliest and original New Testament bible is sinaiticus and it’s the most heavily corrected manuscript in HISTORY.
The VERSION of the book you are reading has also been heavily corrupted, forged and interpolated. Jokes on you, Chrestian. cheesy

Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 5:01pm On Aug 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
AntiChristianSo what aspects of the teachings and commandments included in what are the Gospels additions that weren't witnessed by the disciples? Care to give us an idea of at least a few of them? undecided

Balerion, if the Injeel was revealed to Jesus and was then lost because Jesus Christ didn't write it down, and as a result, the teachings were lost to all, why is the mention in Mohammed's writings? undecided

All the books talking about your saviour are written by anonymous and church fathers.
Even your trinity is a concept created by tertulian.

Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by advocatejare(m): 5:04pm On Aug 11, 2022
IslamVIRGINS:
Allah says somewhere in the Koran that he sent down the Torah (OT) and Injil (NT) and confirmed them.
Muslims now claim the Bible that Allah sent has been corrupted such that wherever the stories copied into the Koran differ from the Bible,they tell you it's because the Bible is corrupted.

Can anyone tell us when exactly the Bible became corrupted

Was it before Mohammed, during the lifetime of Mohammed or after the death of Mohammed.


Those making such claims are confused.

If you say a book is corrupted, then let them show us the original one that is not corrupted!

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by AntiChristian: 8:15am On Aug 12, 2022
Kobojunkie:
AntiChristianSo what aspects of the teachings and commandments included in what are the Gospels additions that weren't witnessed by the disciples? Care to give us an idea of at least a few of them? undecided

How will i know that? What is evident from the Bible you have today is that the writers are dubious! Matthew may not have written Matthew! Paul may not have written Hebrews! The Injeel spoken of in the Qur'an is what Allah revealed to him for the children of Israel! It is not the birth and biography of Jesus from 0-33yrs and some disciples/Historian/Paul's letters and additions!

Also, have you had time to peruse the Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas? Are we meant to believe that to be the correct Injeel of whose followers Allah spoke of? undecided
Heard about it that it's close to the Islamic narrative somehow. But didn't confirm it. We have no need of the Injeel of the Children of Israel. So we believed it was a guidance for them back then just as the Torah was before it.

Balerion, if the Injeel was revealed to Jesus and was then lost because Jesus Christ didn't write it down, and as a result, the teachings were lost to all, why is the mention in Mohammed's writings? undecided
The Torah was written down yet got corrupted! Muhammad had no writings as he is unlettered!
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:36am On Aug 12, 2022
AntiChristian:

Muhammad had no writings as he is unlettered!

So do you accept all the things his closest confidants penned down about him? cheesy
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by AntiChristian: 8:50am On Aug 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


So do you accept all the things his closest confidants penned down about him? cheesy

Who are his closest confidants?
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:58am On Aug 12, 2022
AntiChristian:

Who are his closest confidants?
How did Qur'an get to you since Muhammad never wrote anything as an illiterate? cheesy
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 9:05am On Aug 12, 2022
Was john not also not illiterate yet he wrote gospel of John with fluency grin

Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Kobojunkie: 10:34am On Aug 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
1. How will i know that? What is evident from the Bible you have today is that the writers are dubious! Matthew may not have written Matthew! Paul may not have written Hebrews! The Injeel spoken of in the Qur'an is what Allah revealed to him for the children of Israel! It is not the birth and biography of Jesus from 0-33yrs and some disciples/Historian/Paul's letters and additions!

2. Heard about it that it's close to the Islamic narrative somehow. But didn't confirm it. We have no need of the Injeel of the Children of Israel. So we believed it was a guidance for them back then just as the Torah was before it.

3. The Torah was written down yet got corrupted! Muhammad had no writings as he is unlettered!
1. So the so-called injeel was lost to mankind from its beginning. Yet 650 years after Jesus Christ, your Allah makes reference to those who abide by a book lost to men, why? undecided

2. But Allah clearly indicated those who follow the injeel as being a people different from those who follow the Quran? undecided

3. Sure, everything is corrupted, according to you, yet your Allah acknowledges those who follow these corrupted books or does He instead acknowledge those who follow that which is not? undecided
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by AntiChristian: 11:20am On Aug 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

How did Qur'an get to you since Muhammad never wrote anything as an illiterate? cheesy

Who are his closest confidants?
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:30am On Aug 12, 2022
AntiChristian:

Who are his closest confidants?
Who wrote the Qu'ran since your prophet is an illiterate? smiley

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by AntiChristian: 11:46am On Aug 12, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. So the so-called injeel was lost to mankind from its beginning. Yet 650 years after Jesus Christ, your Allah makes reference to those who abide by a book lost to men, why? undecided
Saying something was unwritten during Jesus's lifetime does not mean it is lost! He preach it only. He never wrote it nor commanded anyone to write it down!
Chai! The Qur'an too was called a Book when it wasn't yet a Book. Can't you reconcile that all revelations are "Books" that can be transmitted?

2. But Allah clearly indicated those who follow the injeel as being a people different from those who follow the Quran? undecided

Quote the particular context to clear your doubt!

3. Sure, everything is corrupted, according to you, yet your Allah acknowledges those who follow these corrupted books or does He instead acknowledge those who follow that which is not? undecided
Where did i say everything is corrupted? I said it was only for the Children of Israel. And since Jesus never wrote anything down, how can what is being presented to us today as the New Testament be called the same Injeel Allah revealed to Jesus for the Children of Israel?

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by MindHacker9009(m): 11:56am On Aug 12, 2022
AntiChristian:

Who are his closest confidants?

His closest confidants were the ones that did not allow Mohammed to choose his successor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-85dXjgMiSU
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by AntiChristian: 11:57am On Aug 12, 2022
MindHacker9009:


His closest confidants were the ones that did not allow Mohammed to choose his successor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-85dXjgMiSU

But he already chose his successor by appointing who should lead...
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Kobojunkie: 3:59pm On Aug 12, 2022
AntiChristian:
1. Saying something was unwritten during Jesus's lifetime does not mean it is lost! He preach it only. He never wrote it nor commanded anyone to write it down!
2. Chai! The Qur'an too was called a Book when it wasn't yet a Book. Can't you reconcile that all revelations are "Books" that can be transmitted?Quote the particular context to clear your doubt!
3. Where did i say everything is corrupted? I said it was only for the Children of Israel. And since Jesus never wrote anything down, how can what is being presented to us today as the New Testament be called the same Injeel Allah revealed to Jesus for the Children of Israel?
1.If no one wrote it down for Him and what we have today are the same writings which you claim were corrupted from their beginnings, doesn't that mean 650 years later that the injeel was already lost? undecided

2. So, a revelation is a book that can be transmitted. So are you suggesting that Allah's reference to the Injeel 650years after Jesus Christ was not in fact to the book that was revealed to Jesus Christ but instead to a revelation that is still transmitted to individuals even after Jesus Christ? undecided

3. Who were the followers of the Injeel mentioned by Allah over 650 years after Jesus Christ, and over 600 years after the fall of Jerusalem? If the written Injeel was corrupted by their authors, who are those who continue to receive this Injeel revelation that Jesus Christ also received and taught at the time? undecided
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by AntiChristian: 8:11am On Aug 13, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1.If no one wrote it down for Him and what we have today are the same writings which you claim were corrupted from their beginnings, doesn't that mean 650 years later that the injeel was already lost? undecided
Who said they were corrupted from their beginnings? Is the new testament as it is today a revelation from God?

2. So, a revelation is a book that can be transmitted. So are you suggesting that Allah's reference to the Injeel 650years after Jesus Christ was not in fact to the book that was revealed to Jesus Christ but instead to a revelation that is still transmitted to individuals even after Jesus Christ? undecided
The Injeel is the revelation revealed to Jesus which he preached and transmitted to his followers. It was never written down during his lifetime.

3. Who were the followers of the Injeel mentioned by Allah over 650 years after Jesus Christ, and over 600 years after the fall of Jerusalem? If the written Injeel was corrupted by their authors, who are those who continue to receive this Injeel revelation that Jesus Christ also received and taught at the time? undecided

The followers of the Injeel are the disciples the Qu'ran mentioned they called themselves Muslims....

Who said the authors corrupted them?
I don't know where your spirit is leading you but let this be the last time you ascribe what I didn't say to me.
Even if we agree that the disciples wrote down the Injeel and transmitted it. They have no control of the transmission!

And i don't know what you mean by they continued to receive the Injeel?

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Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by SlayerofSatan: 8:31am On Aug 13, 2022
The word Injeel comes from the Greek word "Engelion" which means "Good News" So why is allah using a Greek word to describe a book which was sent to the Jews when he said that he only sends messengers to people in their own language?


Surah 14:4

And We did not send any messenger except in the language of his people to state clearly for them,

AntiChristian:

Who said they were corrupted from their beginnings? Is the new testament as it is today a revelation from God?
The Injeel is the revelation revealed to Jesus which he preached and transmitted to his followers. It was never written down during his lifetime.


The followers of the Injeel are the disciples the Qu'ran mentioned they called themselves Muslims....

Who said the authors corrupted them?
I don't know where your spirit is leading you but let this be the last time you ascribe what I didn't say to me.
Even if we agree that the disciples wrote down the Injeel and transmitted it. They have no control of the transmission!

And i don't know what you mean by they continued to receive the Injeel?
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 12:19pm On Aug 13, 2022
advocatejare:

Those making such claims are confused.

If you say a book is corrupted, then let them show us the original one that is not corrupted!

Not only confused, they are fools including AntiChristian
Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Maynman: 12:21pm On Aug 13, 2022
advocatejare:

Those making such claims are confused.

If you say a book is corrupted, then let them show us the original one that is not corrupted!

The original ones are even the most corrupted.
The original and earliest New Testament bible is called?

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