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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:18pm On Sep 01, 2022
zoer:

Am learning a lot from JW.... someone said only JW have the true interpretation or translation of the Bible....Can JW in here explain more to me......No knowledge is waste.
I wasn't born a JW but a Muslim, it's was in the course of searching for the soldiers of Christ that i discovered Jehovah's Witnesses.

The Bible is like a manual sent from the Most High God to instruct mankind how to live a life that's righteous from God's standpoint. 2Timothy 3:16

If the Bible is translated correctly it should help the students to render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

So from the above verse all believers of the Bible should be able to resolve all their racial disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, and stop learning about wars!

Only JWs have use their translation to achieved this globally! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Sep 01, 2022
zoer:

Am learning a lot from JW.... someone said only JW have the true interpretation or translation of the Bible....Can JW in here explain more to me......No knowledge is waste.
Jesus Christ said there are just two roads {Matthew 7:13-14} if we're to get this clearly it means the countless religions all claiming denominations of Christianity or others saying they have something to do with God are just like a set up to complicate things really there's just the true and false religions!

Satan smartly misconstrued it all so that unsuspecting individuals will be irritated and give up on religion but wise ones will look critically into this matter in order to get to the root. Daniel 12:10

Most religionists do cross from one religion to another as if they're on a broad road where they can switch lanes but you can never ever find anyone leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization for any other religion, they may support those criticizing JWs from all other religions even the ones condemned by the churches. WHY? Because JW is the narrow road where you can't sit on the fence, it's either you're in or out just as Jesus described the two roads!

They are all supporters of the KJV though many of them do find it difficult to agree completely with this version but JWs globally only trust one version: NWT and that's the translation used to get people from all races into preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 10:36pm On Sep 01, 2022
Most religionists do cross from one religion to another as if they're on a broad road where they can switch lanes but you can never ever find anyone leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization for any other religion, they may support those criticizing JWs from all other religions even the ones condemned by the churches. WHY? Because JW is the narrow road where you can't sit on the fence, it's either you're in or out just as Jesus described the two roads!

I find this assertion so funny.
I don't really like talking about my experience with JW because of the complex they usually have. Which has been exhibited here in this thread several times and finally being crowned with the statement above.

I usually stay away from religious arguments which to me is a waste of spiritual energy and religious argument is the area of specialty of JW. I know because I also passed through their teachings in my spiritual journey.

My grandfather brought JW to my village. He was their pioneer in my Village. He brought his whole family with him including my father.
My grandfather eventually left JW and started studying metaphysics.

My father continued with JW until he too left and joined my grandfather in studying metaphysics.
As a child my father grounded me in JW teachings.
I grew up with JW literature. My book of Bible stories, watch tower and awake wete never in short supply in my house. My father ensured I studied them closely.

Every Sunday morning even when he has left JW he used to open his doors to them and I watched them slugging it out. Arguments upon arguments. They were perplexed on why he left and he kept pointing out to them the importance of not taking the Bible literally but instead meditating and getting insights from the Holy Spirit.
He was simply wasting his time.

I started reading the Bible and meditating on the verses reading a chapter a day from very early in life. I will restart from beginning once I finish.
The insights I was getting was what led me on the search for the Holy Spirit. Which was clearly stated in the Bible as the comforter that will lead you to all truth.
My search lead me through many religions and paths. My search ended in Eckankar.
It was in Eckankar that I started experiencing first hand the full manifestation of the Holy Spirit which can be seen as a light in the spiritual eyes and heard as a sound. Just like the apostles experienced during the Pentecost
Since then my life has never been the same again.
I don't bother arguing with anybody over these issues because you can never understand it if you have never experienced it.
So to each his own belief.
What matters is loving God and loving your neighbor as yourself without discrimination or bias. Even if the person left your church. Still love the person because God is love.
That is all that matters. Anything else is simply illusion.
Iremain blessed

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15am On Sep 02, 2022
benodic:


I find this assertion so funny.
I don't really like talking about my experience with JW because of the complex they usually have. Which has been exhibited here in this thread several times and finally being crowned with the statement above.

I usually stay away from religious arguments which to me is a waste of spiritual energy and religious argument is the area of specialty of JW. I know because I also passed through their teachings in my spiritual journey.

My grandfather brought JW to my village. He was their pioneer in my Village. He brought his whole family with him including my father.
My grandfather eventually left JW and started studying metaphysics.

My father continued with JW until he too left and joined my grandfather in studying metaphysics.
As a child my father grounded me in JW teachings.
I grew up with JW literature. My book of Bible stories, watch tower and awake wete never in short supply in my house. My father ensured I studied them closely.

Every Sunday morning even when he has left JW he used to open his doors to them and I watched them slugging it out. Arguments upon arguments. They were perplexed on why he left and he kept pointing out to them the importance of not taking the Bible literally but instead meditating and getting insights from the Holy Spirit.
He was simply wasting his time.

I started reading the Bible and meditating on the verses reading a chapter a day from very early in life. I will restart from beginning once I finish.
The insights I was getting was what led me on the search for the Holy Spirit. Which was clearly stated in the Bible as the comforter that will lead you to all truth.
My search lead me through many religions and paths. My search ended in Eckankar.
It was in Eckankar that I started experiencing first hand the full manifestation of the Holy Spirit which can be seen as a light in the spiritual eyes and heard as a sound. Just like the apostles experienced during the Pentecost
Since then my life has never been the same again.
I don't bother arguing with anybody over these issues because you can never understand it if you have never experienced it.
So to each his own belief.
What matters is loving God and loving your neighbor as yourself without discrimination or bias. Even if the person left your church. Still love the person because God is love.
That is all that matters. Anything else is simply illusion.
Iremain blessed
From your write-up it's obvious that you don't know the difference between the GIFTS and FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit.
Many trees in the forest do have the same GIFTS but each only have a unique FRUIT that's why Jesus used a tree to illustrate true religion! John 15:1-10
Each religion on this planet is backed by one or two spirit beings so you will notice similar GIFTS in most religions. GIFTS like Apostles, prophets, preachers, shepherds and teachers will suffice, since a spirit is backing the activity first hand manifestation will be experienced by devoted adherents it happens in all religions.

But as for the FRUIT all false religions have the same FRUIT the spirits backing them are demons and demons can't motivate humans to produce the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} as it's beyond their control so in all false religions what is present is the WORKS of the flesh {Galatians 5:19-21} this is the result of rebelliousness and arrogance that is in those demons and their worshipers.

So instead of LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS, and SELF-CONTROL which are the features of the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit imperfect humans under the control of demons will be WORKING OUT what their flesh desires. Galatians 5:19-21

I know there is first hand manifestation of the presence of powerful spirits (GIFTS) in all the religions on this planet but the one and only religion producing the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit is just one organization: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Jesus knew very well that all other religions will surely have gifts similar to that of pure worship after all they're also backed by mighty spirit beings but none of them can produce the FRUIT that's why Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

Only the true religion can help imperfect humans to resolve all their racial disparities among themselves, erase politics, and racism in the hearts of all their members, divert their resources to producing food and information materials, stop the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman again {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} this is the will of God that Satan is using false religions to blur the sense of millions from realizing. 2Corinthians 4:4
Only JWs are doing this globally {Matthew 5:14-16} that's why Jesus said many will be carried away with the GIFTS (manifestation of the presence of mighty spirit beings) but since they're not doing God's will he will deny them! Matthew 7:21-23

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 6:10pm On Sep 02, 2022
To each his own headache and panadol
I stopped bothering myself about it a long time ago.
When a soul is ready and the inner preparations has been made. The truth will be revealed and it will be understood by the individual. Before then any other thing you are doing is a waste of time.
Enjoy wherever you are and give love to all life. That is all that matters.
Any thing else is illusion.
May The Blessings Be

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28pm On Sep 02, 2022
benodic:

To each his own headache and panadol
I stopped bothering myself about it a long time ago.
When a soul is ready and the inner preparations has been made. The truth will be revealed and it will be understood by the individual. Before then any other thing you are doing is a waste of time.
Enjoy wherever you are and give love to all life. That is all that matters.
Any thing else is illusion.
May The Blessings Be

So I'm a nutshell someone can still worship your God acceptably as a JW, right? smiley
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by achorladey: 8:37am On Sep 03, 2022
Most religionists do cross from one religion to another as if they're on a broad road where they can switch lanes but you can never ever find anyone leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization for any other religion

Intelligence goes down the drain grin grin grin
Assertions filled with empty boast grin grin grin.

They not only leave to join other religious denominations. They set up religious organization as well grin grin grin


@Templee333

Whatever you post and typed on page 4 of this thread is simply epic and funny.
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 9:48am On Sep 03, 2022
achorladey:



Intelligence goes down the drain grin grin grin
Assertions filled with empty boast grin grin grin.

They not only leave to join other religious denominations. They set up religious organization as well grin grin grin


@Templee333

Whatever you post and typed on page 4 of this thread is simply epic and funny.


one needs to be funny at times

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53am On Sep 03, 2022
Templee333:

one needs to be funny at times

The point here is that only JWs have the organization that's envied because they're the only true religion.
As for all others they just exist along with the rest they don't even know why they have to cross unlike JWs that left other religions to be part of God's organization! wink

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 11:01am On Sep 03, 2022
achorladey:



Intelligence goes down the drain grin grin grin
Assertions filled with empty boast grin grin grin.

They not only leave to join other religious denominations. They set up religious organization as well
they like deceiving themselves,believing that u can't leave JW & go to another church. The guy doesn't know that i'm a Sunday school teacher & a preacher in my church. If only they know how absurd their beliefs sound to outsiders.If only he read my 1st story in which I mentioned a prophet/GO of a church who's an ex jw. But pride didn't allow him to follow the story carefully. He always want to rush into correcting others as the JW custom is.

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by achorladey: 11:11am On Sep 03, 2022
Templee333:

they like deceiving themselves,believing that u can't leave JW & go to another church. The guy doesn't know that i'm a Sunday school teacher & a preacher in my church. If only they know how absurd their beliefs sound to outsiders.If only he read my 1st story in which I mentioned a prophet/GO of a church who's an ex jw. But pride didn't allow him to follow the story carefully. He always want to rush into correcting others as the JW custom is.

The ex military intelligence officer is parroting the ways of his taskmasters who loves cooking up imaginations about other Christian denominations to look good and remain relevant. grin grin grin

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by achorladey: 11:14am On Sep 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


The point here is that only JWs have the organization that's envied because they're the only true religion.
As for all others they just exist along with the rest they don't even know why they have to cross unlike JWs that left other religions to be part of God's organization! wink


The many imaginations and manipulation obtained from your taskmasters and parroted by you.

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 11:27am On Sep 03, 2022
achorladey:



The many imaginations and manipulation obtained from your taskmasters and parroted by you.
they expect people to leave their church & come to theirs,but once u leave their JW to attain another church they hate u with passion. These JW guys are so so so...( ).I know what i would have call them but I don't like using abusive speech,its not in my nature.

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 8:10pm On Sep 03, 2022
So I'm a nutshell someone can still worship your God acceptably as a JW, right?

This issue of "your God" is one of the things that is causing mayhem in religion. The next is "my God is bigger and better than yours"
Man in the name of religion has created a personal God made in the image and likeness of himself. From this perspective any body that does not buy into this personal perception of God is not fit to be alive. He is called an unbeliever and discriminated against.
When you clear your mind of all you think you know about God and ask God to reveal Itself to you without any preconceived notions then your journey from religion to spirituality starts.
And the issue of worship.
The highest form of worship is loving service to all life. For when you are loving and serving God's creation, you are worshipping God.
You don't need any religion or church to achieve this. All you need is love and an open heart.
May The blessings be

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 8:51pm On Sep 03, 2022
benodic:


This issue of "your God" is one of the things that is causing mayhem in religion. The next is "my God is bigger and better than yours"
Man in the name of religion has created a personal God made in the image and likeness of himself. From this perspective any body that does not buy into this personal perception of God is not fit to be alive. He is called an unbeliever and discriminated against.
When you clear your mind of all you think you know about God and ask God to reveal Itself to you without any preconceived notions then your journey from religion to spirituality starts.
And the issue of worship.
The highest form of worship is loving service to all life. For when you are loving and serving God's creation, you are worshipping God.
You don't need any religion or church to achieve this. All you need is love and an open heart.
May The blessings be
all u said above will not sound normal to a JW.

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:15pm On Sep 03, 2022
benodic:


This issue of "your God" is one of the things that is causing mayhem in religion. The next is "my God is bigger and better than yours"
Man in the name of religion has created a personal God made in the image and likeness of himself. From this perspective any body that does not buy into this personal perception of God is not fit to be alive. He is called an unbeliever and discriminated against.
When you clear your mind of all you think you know about God and ask God to reveal Itself to you without any preconceived notions then your journey from religion to spirituality starts.
And the issue of worship.
The highest form of worship is loving service to all life. For when you are loving and serving God's creation, you are worshipping God.
You don't need any religion or church to achieve this. All you need is love and an open heart.
May The blessings be

My guy there are just two roads one is broad and spacious the other is narrow and cramped according to Jesus you can switch lanes on the broad road but on the narrow road you can only find the path that few are passing through it! Matthew 7:13-14

So if you've left a religion and you can't confidently say the religion you left is not good then you're still on the narrow road switching lanes! smiley
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21pm On Sep 03, 2022
Templee333:

they like deceiving themselves,believing that u can't leave JW & go to another church. The guy doesn't know that i'm a Sunday school teacher & a preacher in my church. If only they know how absurd their beliefs sound to outsiders.If only he read my 1st story in which I mentioned a prophet/GO of a church who's an ex jw. But pride didn't allow him to follow the story carefully. He always want to rush into correcting others as the JW custom is.

Sunday School Teacher! cheesy

cornelboy:

Do you believe the Bible as God's word?

Templee333:

do u believe the HOLY KORAN as God's word? ur answer to my question is also my answ to ur question.

cornelboy:

Hell no!

I will not conclude yet so let's hear from the horses mouth first.

Meanwhile I have this:
Templee333:

if i choose to be an atheist does it concern u? If it pains u stop paying my school fees & cut off my feeding & outfits allowances.

A preacher and teacher claiming Qur'an is HOLY! cheesy

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 9:43pm On Sep 03, 2022
@:Templee333


all u said above will not sound normal to a JW.

My dear I know fully well. These writings are not even meant for them. Those that it is meant for will read it and understand it. As has happened several times here in nairaland.

Truth has levels. When you are through with one level you move up to the next level. As above so below. Just like our school system. When you are done with primary school you move on to secondary and university level.
Someone in primary school can never make sense of what someone in university knows as reality. For example telling a child in primary school that 1-4 is equal to -3.
He will tell you it is impossible and that -3 does not exist. But when he gets to secondary school the concept of negative numbers will then make sense to him.

The same thing happens in spirituality.
That is why I always advise anyone to take any path he finds himself seriously and learn everything he can about it . when it is time to move on to the next level the Holy Spirit will nudge you on.
There is nothing to bother about and no one is lost or condemned.
We are all encompassed in the unlimited divine Love of God and of course Soul Exist because of God's love for It.

Remain Blessed

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02pm On Sep 03, 2022
benodic:

@:Templee333
My dear I know fully well. These writings are not even meant for them. Those that it is meant for will read it and understand it. As has happened several times here in nairaland.
Truth has levels. When you are through with one level you move up to the next level. As above so below. Just like our school system. When you are done with primary school you move on to secondary and university level.
Someone in primary school can never make sense of what someone in university knows as reality. For example telling a child in primary school that 1-4 is equal to -3.
He will tell you it is impossible and that -3 does not exist. But when he gets to secondary school the concept of negative numbers will then make sense to him.
The same thing happens in spirituality.
That is why I always advise anyone to take any path he finds himself seriously and learn everything he can about it . when it is time to move on to the next level the Holy Spirit will nudge you on.
There is nothing to bother about and no one is lost or condemned.
We are all encompassed in the unlimited divine Love of God and of course Soul Exist because of God's love for It.
Remain Blessed
Next time don't start what you can't finish, nah Jehovah's Witnesses dey talk no be misinformed Churchgoers! wink

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 11:05pm On Sep 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Sunday School Teacher! cheesy







I will not conclude yet so let's hear from the horses mouth first.

Meanwhile I have this:


A preacher and teacher claiming Qur'an is HOLY! cheesy

that is ur own cup of tea! What u r saying here doesn't stop me frm teaching in the church 2morow morning.

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:17pm On Sep 03, 2022
Templee333:

that is ur own cup of tea! What u r saying here doesn't stop me frm teaching in the church 2morow morning.
In the land of the blinds nah! cheesy

Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 11:48pm On Sep 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

In the land of the blinds nah! cheesy
i enjoy the blindness. So worship ur Jehovah & stop intruding in what doesnt concern u!

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:50pm On Sep 03, 2022
Templee333:

i enjoy the blindness. So worship ur Jehovah & stop intruding in what doesnt concern u!
But you can make up STORIES shey? cheesy

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 12:04am On Sep 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

But you can make up STORIES shey? cheesy
if it pains u,its not too late to hit ur head on the wall. Do u think i'm soliciting people to believe anything i say?

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 11:35am On Sep 04, 2022
"What prepares you for the true path of God? The experiences of life."
--Harold Klemp

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by ThothHermes: 1:23pm On Sep 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


My guy there are just two roads one is broad and spacious the other is narrow and cramped according to Jesus you can switch lanes on the broad road but on the narrow road you can only find the path that few are passing through it! Matthew 7:13-14

So if you've left a religion and you can't confidently say the religion you left is not good then you're still on the narrow road switching lanes! smiley
You are an idiot. It's not an insult. You really are stupid.

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29pm On Sep 04, 2022
ThothHermes:

You are an idiot. It's not an insult. You really are stupid.
Thanks for the compliment Sir, God bless you! Matthew 5:44 smiley

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Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by ThothHermes: 7:32pm On Sep 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Thanks for the compliment Sir, God bless you! Matthew 5:44 smiley
It's not a compliment undecided
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42pm On Sep 04, 2022
ThothHermes:
It's not a compliment undecided

ThothHermes:
You are an idiot. It's not an insult. You really are stupid.
smiley
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by achorladey: 10:12pm On Sep 04, 2022
benodic:


This issue of "your God" is one of the things that is causing mayhem in religion. The next is "my God is bigger and better than yours"
Man in the name of religion has created a personal God made in the image and likeness of himself. From this perspective any body that does not buy into this personal perception of God is not fit to be alive. He is called an unbeliever and discriminated against.
When you clear your mind of all you think you know about God and ask God to reveal Itself to you without any preconceived notions then your journey from religion to spirituality starts.
And the issue of worship.
The highest form of worship is loving service to all life. For when you are loving and serving God's creation, you are worshipping God.
You don't need any religion or church to achieve this. All you need is love and an open heart.
May The blessings be

I see Matthew 20:28 here grin grin grin grin

just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by achorladey: 10:13pm On Sep 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


My guy there are just two roads one is broad and spacious the other is narrow and cramped according to Jesus you can switch lanes on the broad road but on the narrow road you can only find the path that few are passing through it! Matthew 7:13-14

So if you've left a religion and you can't confidently say the religion you left is not good then you're still on the narrow road switching lanes! smiley

Your Jesus is the road or way leading to life. Correct or change mouth? grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by achorladey: 10:21pm On Sep 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Thanks for the compliment Sir, God bless you! Matthew 5:44 smiley

Playing the victim card now and hiding behind compliment even quoting Matthew 5:44. grin grin grin grin

Eyin naa cite Matthew 5:44 notable, leader and frontrunner of users of abuse and insults here on this particular section grin grin grin

What you sow, you reap. When you go about calling people mad, asiere, asinwin, insane. You are planting the fruits you are now reaping.

Intelligence officer learn and accept fi compliment si legrin grin

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