cornelboy:

Seems you've already figured everything out.
Gods kingdom is not Islam or any human government for that matter.

Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. READ HISTORY OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE ANS YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS VERSE BETTER
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. THAT WAS CONSTATINE. THE SO CALLED FIRST CHRISTIAN EMPEROR. HE WAS DIVERSE BECAUSE HE CLAIMED CHRISTIANITY UNLIKE OTHER PAGANS
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. GREAT THINGS: BLASPHEMY. THE TRINITY. DURING HIS REIGN CHRISTIANS CHANGED THE SABATH TO SUNDAY THE DAY THE ROMANS WORSHIP THE SUN GOD. ROMAN CODES BECAME LAW IM PLACE OF THE BIBLICAL LAWS. A TIME AND A TIME AND DIVISING OF TIME? A TIME IS A HUNDRED YEARS. SO A TIME AND A TIME AND DIVIDING TIME IS 250 YEARS EXACTLY THE TIME PROPHET MUHAMMAD MISSION BEGINS IN ARABIA
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. THE ROMANS TIME IS COMING....
-- Daniel 7:23-26
KJV Holy Bible

Lukuluku69:

Oya post that vision of Daniel with FIVE WINDS. I will wait....

The book of Daniel talked about two first in Nebuchadnezzar's dream about five Kingdoms {Daniel chapter 2} the second vision was Daniel's about four kings.
The five kingdoms are Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and Anglo-America.
But the four Kings in the second vision is talking about Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. England is the small horn that grew out because it wasn't a sovereign state on its own before then it's like a kingdom that grew out of nowhere!

Lukuluku69:

Read again or you want me to post that one too?
The Kingdoms will be given to his "saints" meaning his COMPANIONS.
It was his COMPANIONS that fought and CONSUMED PERSIA. They were the ones who beats the Greeks and sent them flying from Abraham's heritage not the Jews, not the Christians. Prophet Muhammad's Companion.

The kingdom will be given to Holy Ones that's the 144,000 born again Christians! Luke 12:32

MaxInDHouse:

The book of Daniel talked about two first in Nebuchadnezzar's dream about five Kingdoms {Daniel chapter 2} the second vision was Daniel's about four kings.
The five kingdoms are Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and Anglo-America.
But the four Kings in the second vision is talking about Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. England is the small horn that grew out because it wasn't a sovereign state on its own before then it's like a kingdom that grew out of nowhere!


The kingdom will be given to Holy Ones that's the 144,000 born again Christians! Luke 12:32

Oga Ade, sebi you have a Bible with you? Quote that verse that says FIVE WINDS in any Chapter in Book of Daniel. Do you comprehend? Post it and let the whole Nairaland know that I am a Liar.

I said I will wait.......

You see that 144,000 saints you are posting na another sakamanje from your elders. To truly understand what that 144,000 means, download the Gospel of Barnabas. Therein you will find it true meaning.

But before that, post your FIVE WINDS/ KINGDOM from the Book of Daniel.

Lol Anglo-American ko, Anglo-Russian ni!

Lukuluku69:


Oga Ade, sebi you have a Bible with you? Quote that verse that says FIVE WINDS in any Chapter in Book of Daniel. Do you comprehend? Post it and let the whole Nairaland know that I am a Liar.

I said I will wait.......

You see that 144,000 saints you are posting na another sakamanje from your elders. To truly understand what that 144,000 means, download the Gospel of Barnabas. Therein you will find it true meaning.

But before that, post your FIVE WINDS/ KINGDOM from the Book of Daniel.

Lol Anglo-American ko, Anglo-Russian ni!

You're really funny walahi talahi!

This is what i posted so i don't know where i said it's five winds o!

MaxInDHouse:

The book of Daniel talked about two first in Nebuchadnezzar's dream about five Kingdoms {Daniel chapter 2} the second vision was Daniel's about four kings.
The five kingdoms are Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and Anglo-America.
But the four Kings in the second vision is talking about Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. England is the small horn that grew out because it wasn't a sovereign state on its own before then it's like a kingdom that grew out of nowhere!


The kingdom will be given to Holy Ones that's the 144,000 born again Christians! Luke 12:32

MaxInDHouse:


You're really funny walahi talahi!

This is what i posted so i don't know where i said it's five winds o!

Read slowly sir. Five winds/five government.

Lukuluku69:

Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. READ HISTORY OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE ANS YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS VERSE BETTER
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. THAT WAS CONSTATINE. THE SO CALLED FIRST CHRISTIAN EMPEROR. HE WAS DIVERSE BECAUSE HE CLAIMED CHRISTIANITY UNLIKE OTHER PAGANS
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. GREAT THINGS: BLASPHEMY. THE TRINITY. DURING HIS REIGN CHRISTIANS CHANGED THE SABATH TO SUNDAY THE DAY THE ROMANS WORSHIP THE SUN GOD. ROMAN CODES BECAME LAW IM PLACE OF THE BIBLICAL LAWS. A TIME AND A TIME AND DIVISING OF TIME? A TIME IS A HUNDRED YEARS. SO A TIME AND A TIME AND DIVIDING TIME IS 250 YEARS EXACTLY THE TIME PROPHET MUHAMMAD MISSION BEGINS IN ARABIA
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. THE ROMANS TIME IS COMING....
-- Daniel 7:23-26
KJV Holy Bible

No problem na.
Shebi na mohammed wey don decay inside grave go still fulfill the rest of the missions Abi?
Since when have Muslims start believing in the Bible? Interesting!

Jesus is the head of God's government/kingdom.
He's coming back in the future to judge the earth and restore peace on it.

You haven't answered my question:
Is islam (Muslims) the kingdom God promise or the political one Mohammed established in Mecca?

MaxInDHouse:
The quoted verse is one of the mostly referred in the scriptures as Jesus of Nazareth clearly stated that it's not those calling him Lord! Lord! that will inherit God's Kingdom. Though most religionists believe that God's kingdom is heaven even when we can all read in the Bible that Adam and Eve were created to live forever on planet earth! Genesis 1:26-28 compare to Psalms 115:16
Anyhow everyone agrees that if there is a God somewhere and He wants to reward the good the blessings will be pretty good.
So since Jesus (God's only begotten Son) said it's by doing God's will that humans can gain God's favour the most important question that should come to mind is:
What is God's will today?

: The main point is about the real love. The father in this world does not have real love towards his children. The real love is always recognised in the purification of the soul. If the defects of the children are not given punishments impartially, such love is not real.

If the father saves the child from the punishment, the love is false. The father generally scolds and punishes his children for the wrong deeds. But if the son committed a murder, will any father hand over him to the police? In such case, the father will hide him and tries to save him from the punishment.

But, God is not like that. God gives punishments to his children as per their sins without any partiality. Both father and God reward their children for their merits and this context cannot differentiate God and father. God has the real love towards His children since His aim is always to uplift the soul through purification rendered by punishments.

Punishment for the sin is not for revenge. It is only for the transformation and development of the soul. Punishment should be treated as reward. In fact, reward may introduce ego. But, punishment destroys the ego and imparts purification, resulting in progress. Hence, punishment is a better reward.

The kindness behind the punishments is more than the kindness behind the rewards. A friend, who praises you, is always dangerous since he tries to push ego into yourself. An enemy is the real friend, who always criticizes your sin since he develops the careful attitude in you. Hence, God is the real father, who is always a real friend.

Basically, you must develop the attitude to avoid blaming God in any matter because logically and legally it is untenable. How can you blame God, who is unimaginable? The creation including the human beings is imaginable phase. The relationship between the unimaginable creator and imaginable creation must be also unimaginable.

In this world, all are imaginable items. Both the father and child are imaginable and therefore, the process of generation of the child from the father is imaginable. The relationship between two imaginable items is also imaginable. Even if you take the unimaginable God as imaginable since the unimaginable God identifies Himself with an imaginable medium, you cannot blame God as you have seen in the above explanation.
People lacking the patience to analyse impartially and deeply always try to blame God. Even theists and devotees blame God in the occasions of excess tragic grief. They do not understand the infinite kindness of God in giving the punishments in order to transform the soul for better development. Therefore, you should always thank God more in difficulties.

Devotee’s Submission to Will of God

Just before the arrest of Jesus before crucifixion, Jesus stated that the will of God should happen. This is a clear submission of Jesus to the will of God. Jesus, a special human being, being the human incarnation of God submitted Himself to the will of God. This special occasion of crucifixion happened in the case of this special human being.

In such case, all the ordinary human beings do not have such special occasion like undergoing the crucifixion to save the humanity from its sins. Does this mean that the ordinary human beings do not have the possibility to submit to the will of God? It means that the ordinary human being need not submit to the will of God due to lack of such possibility. This is not correct.

You cannot escape so easily. Every human being has the golden opportunity to submit to the will of God. What is that? In the life of every human being, both rewards for the good deeds and punishments for the bad deeds appear as per the ethical constitution or the scriptures written by God. If you accept them without any resistance, you are submitting yourself to the will of God.
People do not submit themselves to the will of God especially in the case of facing the punishments. They resist and try their level best to avoid these punishments. This means that you are trying to oppose the will of God on many occasions. Shri Rama Krishna Paramahamsa did not allow any medication for His throat cancer. We should keep such highest level as our goal so that at least we may avoid blaming God in difficulties.

You always say that you wish something good to happen to yourself or to your friends. You also wish a speedy recovery from some damage in the case of others. Damage means punishment given for the sin committed, which is the will of God to uplift the soul.
Such situations clearly imply that you are not only opposing the will of God but also desiring for the opposite to the will of God to happen. When a human being is subjected to some difficulty, which is the punishment given by God, God knows the duration of that difficulty to purify the soul.

When you expect a speedy recovery from that difficulty, you are opposing the will of God that prescribed the duration. Therefore, a true devotee must always express that the will of God should always happen either in his case or in the case of the others. Jesus was frightened about the arrest and its future consequence. He tried to pray God to save Him from that future tragedy. But, finally He prayed God stating that His will should finally happen.

This split personality shows the dual behaviour of the two components existing in Human incarnation. The behaviour of the human being is exhibited by the fear and initial prayer and this represents every human being. The final prayer represents the behaviour of God. This dual behaviour is shown to represent the ordinary human being and the God. The Human incarnation is a system of these two components mixed in a single phase.

Some people often blame God that they are punished unnecessarily even though they are very pure without any sin. This is only hypocrisy based on the ignorance. Generally, people commit sins thinking that those are good deeds. The judge has to decide, who is sinful between the petitioner and the respondent. Both claim that they are correct. Self-certification is not valid.

cornelboy:

No problem na.
Shebi na mohammed wey don decay inside grave go still fulfill the rest of the missions Abi?
Since when have Muslims start believing in the Bible? Interesting!

Jesus is the head of God's government/kingdom.
He's coming back in the future to judge the earth and restore peace on it.

You haven't answered my question:
Is islam (Muslims) the kingdom God promise or the political one Mohammed established in Mecca?

The secret is gradually coming out of Lukmon's comments!
This is the main reason behind so many killer groups all in the name of Islam, they are trying to conquer the world through psychological plus physical weapons. After killing their parents the Arabs will brainwash them to fight for Islam and the killing continues all in the name of Muhammad's kingdom.
Àfọ̀njá in Ìlọrin was killed by the Fulanis today the descendants of Àfọ̀njá are now fighting for the religion of those that killed their father yet calling themselves descendants of Àfọ̀njá whom the Fulanis killed for paganism.

dattaswami1:


: The main point is about the real love. The father in this world does not have real love towards his children. The real love is always recognised in the purification of the soul. If the defects of the children are not given punishments impartially, such love is not real.

If the father saves the child from the punishment, the love is false. The father generally scolds and punishes his children for the wrong deeds. But if the son committed a murder, will any father hand over him to the police? In such case, the father will hide him and tries to save him from the punishment.

But, God is not like that. God gives punishments to his children as per their sins without any partiality. Both father and God reward their children for their merits and this context cannot differentiate God and father. God has the real love towards His children since His aim is always to uplift the soul through purification rendered by punishments.

Punishment for the sin is not for revenge. It is only for the transformation and development of the soul. Punishment should be treated as reward. In fact, reward may introduce ego. But, punishment destroys the ego and imparts purification, resulting in progress. Hence, punishment is a better reward.

The kindness behind the punishments is more than the kindness behind the rewards. A friend, who praises you, is always dangerous since he tries to push ego into yourself. An enemy is the real friend, who always criticizes your sin since he develops the careful attitude in you. Hence, God is the real father, who is always a real friend.

Basically, you must develop the attitude to avoid blaming God in any matter because logically and legally it is untenable. How can you blame God, who is unimaginable? The creation including the human beings is imaginable phase. The relationship between the unimaginable creator and imaginable creation must be also unimaginable.

In this world, all are imaginable items. Both the father and child are imaginable and therefore, the process of generation of the child from the father is imaginable. The relationship between two imaginable items is also imaginable. Even if you take the unimaginable God as imaginable since the unimaginable God identifies Himself with an imaginable medium, you cannot blame God as you have seen in the above explanation.
People lacking the patience to analyse impartially and deeply always try to blame God. Even theists and devotees blame God in the occasions of excess tragic grief. They do not understand the infinite kindness of God in giving the punishments in order to transform the soul for better development. Therefore, you should always thank God more in difficulties.

Devotee’s Submission to Will of God

Just before the arrest of Jesus before crucifixion, Jesus stated that the will of God should happen. This is a clear submission of Jesus to the will of God. Jesus, a special human being, being the human incarnation of God submitted Himself to the will of God. This special occasion of crucifixion happened in the case of this special human being.

In such case, all the ordinary human beings do not have such special occasion like undergoing the crucifixion to save the humanity from its sins. Does this mean that the ordinary human beings do not have the possibility to submit to the will of God? It means that the ordinary human being need not submit to the will of God due to lack of such possibility. This is not correct.

You cannot escape so easily. Every human being has the golden opportunity to submit to the will of God. What is that? In the life of every human being, both rewards for the good deeds and punishments for the bad deeds appear as per the ethical constitution or the scriptures written by God. If you accept them without any resistance, you are submitting yourself to the will of God.
People do not submit themselves to the will of God especially in the case of facing the punishments. They resist and try their level best to avoid these punishments. This means that you are trying to oppose the will of God on many occasions. Shri Rama Krishna Paramahamsa did not allow any medication for His throat cancer. We should keep such highest level as our goal so that at least we may avoid blaming God in difficulties.

You always say that you wish something good to happen to yourself or to your friends. You also wish a speedy recovery from some damage in the case of others. Damage means punishment given for the sin committed, which is the will of God to uplift the soul.
Such situations clearly imply that you are not only opposing the will of God but also desiring for the opposite to the will of God to happen. When a human being is subjected to some difficulty, which is the punishment given by God, God knows the duration of that difficulty to purify the soul.

When you expect a speedy recovery from that difficulty, you are opposing the will of God that prescribed the duration. Therefore, a true devotee must always express that the will of God should always happen either in his case or in the case of the others. Jesus was frightened about the arrest and its future consequence. He tried to pray God to save Him from that future tragedy. But, finally He prayed God stating that His will should finally happen.

This split personality shows the dual behaviour of the two components existing in Human incarnation. The behaviour of the human being is exhibited by the fear and initial prayer and this represents every human being. The final prayer represents the behaviour of God. This dual behaviour is shown to represent the ordinary human being and the God. The Human incarnation is a system of these two components mixed in a single phase.

Some people often blame God that they are punished unnecessarily even though they are very pure without any sin. This is only hypocrisy based on the ignorance. Generally, people commit sins thinking that those are good deeds. The judge has to decide, who is sinful between the petitioner and the respondent. Both claim that they are correct. Self-certification is not valid.

I have told you several times that if you want to chat with me stop typing lengthy posts i won't read it, summarize whatever you want to say in two or three sentences!

Lukuluku69:

Read slowly sir. Five winds/five government.

If Muslims are killing people of other religions for the Kingdom of their god then what are they killing their fellow Muslims for?

It's about what Satan initiated in the garden of Eden which is POLITICS: humans dominating fellow humans to harm! Ecclesiastes 8:9

God is setting up a government that's coming to wipe them all out within just a day {Daniel 2:44} not what those Arabs are telling you so that you will kill your neighbours claiming you're fighting for God's Kingdom, the kingdom of God will be uphold by the forces of heaven (angels) not humans!

MaxInDHouse:

If Muslims are killing people of other religions for the Kingdom of their god then what are they killing their fellow Muslims for?

It's about what Satan initiated in the garden of Eden which is POLITICS: humans dominating fellow humans to harm! Ecclesiastes 8:9

God is setting up a government that's coming to wipe them all out within just a day {Daniel 2:44} not what those Arabs are telling you so that you will kill your neighbours claiming you're fighting for God's Kingdom, the kingdom of God will be uphold by the forces of heaven (angels) not humans!

Oga Ade, please for once leave the gibberish taughts at your Halls. I have listened to them as a fresh face high school graduate. I know when you guys don't have anything to say again your trump card is to whip up Satan and spin your usual tales and quoting irrelevant verses to what is being discussed.

Daniel Vision talked about Four Kingdoms on the face of the earth, to come in succession. These Kingdoms will " break in pieces, will be consumed, will conquer much etc" and also another Kingdom will be set up by God Himself that will "Consumed, break, and dominion given to it"

A kindergarten student of Ancient History will tell you that this is no other than Babylonian, Persia, Grecian and Roman Empire. In that order they reigned just as it was in the book of Daniel

Yes Muslims have fought each other and so are the children of Israel, so are the christian and so are the Hindus and so are the Zoroastrians. So just shush it about that.

And yes you fight for God's Kingdom! Read your Bible and find true interpretations to it's oracles.

Did Christ not tell you that the kingdom of God suffereth violence and true violence it .......

cornelboy:

No problem na.
Shebi na mohammed wey don decay inside grave go still fulfill the rest of the missions Abi?
Since when have Muslims start believing in the Bible? Interesting!

Jesus is the head of God's government/kingdom.
He's coming back in the future to judge the earth and restore peace on it.

You haven't answered my question:
Is islam (Muslims) the kingdom God promise or the political one Mohammed established in Mecca?

Read. Read. Read

That Kingdom will be given to his "Saints" Read the whole of Daniel 7 and use the history of the ancients as it commentaries. Don't allow those guys in Warwick be the one to to tell you what Daniel saw for Daniel himself gave the interpretations.

The cold hard facts of history says it was the Muslims that ended Persia and Grecian Empires till date. Just as Persia ended Babylon. The Romans are wounded but it's time is coming too.

A Kingdom is what it is. People, Laws/Codes. Don't let any one fill your head with an utopian idea of it. A

This is the same Kingdom that Jesus told you that it will break into pieces any one that it falls on.

And yes Muslims do believe in the Bible. But not the Part written by men

Lukuluku69:

Read. Read. Read
That Kingdom will be given to his "Saints" Read the whole of Daniel 7 and use the history of the ancients as it commentaries. Don't allow those guys in Warwick be the one to to tell you what Daniel saw for Daniel himself gave the interpretations.
The cold hard facts of history says it was the Muslims that ended Persia and Grecian Empires till date. Just as Persia ended Babylon. The Romans are wounded but it's time is coming too.
A Kingdom is what it is. People, Laws/Codes. Don't let any one fill your head with an utopian idea of it. A
This is the same Kingdom that Jesus told you that it will break into pieces any one that it falls on.
And yes Muslims do believe in the Bible. But not the Part written by men

Lol.
So you guys are planning wars against the Romans?

Which part of the Bible wasn't written by men?
Guy na men write the Bible.

You've to prove from the Qur'an where Allah/Mohammed predicted Islam as a Kingdom that would defeat other kingdoms.

MaxInDHouse:

The secret is gradually coming out of Lukmon's comments!
This is the main reason behind so many killer groups all in the name of Islam, they are trying to conquer the world through psychological plus physical weapons. After killing their parents the Arabs will brainwash them to fight for Islam and the killing continues all in the name of Muhammad's kingdom.
Àfọ̀njá in Ìlọrin was killed by the Fulanis today the descendants of Àfọ̀njá are now fighting for the religion of those that killed their father yet calling themselves descendants of Àfọ̀njá whom the Fulanis killed for paganism.

I see.
So definitely, the terrorist group in Nigeria, for example the boko haram were/are actually on a mission to conquer Nigeria for the kingdom of Allah/Mohammed. Cool.

Lukuluku69:


Oga Ade, please for once leave the gibberish taughts at your Halls. I have listened to them as a fresh face high school graduate. I know when you guys don't have anything to say again your trump card is to whip up Satan and spin your usual tales and quoting irrelevant verses to what is being discussed.

Daniel Vision talked about Four Kingdoms on the face of the earth, to come in succession. These Kingdoms will " break in pieces, will be consumed, will conquer much etc" and also another Kingdom will be set up by God Himself that will "Consumed, break, and dominion given to it"

A kindergarten student of Ancient History will tell you that this is no other than Babylonian, Persia, Grecian and Roman Empire. In that order they reigned just as it was in the book of Daniel

Yes Muslims have fought each other and so are the children of Israel, so are the christian and so are the Hindus and so are the Zoroastrians. So just shush it about that.

And yes you fight for God's Kingdom! Read your Bible and find true interpretations to it's oracles.

Did Christ not tell you that the kingdom of God suffereth violence and true violence it .......

Why didn't he lead the so called VIOLENCE if it is to be understood your way?

Ọmọ Muhammad is dead as in DEAD so God's Kingdom can't be established in the name of a DEAD man. If you're arguing blindly we will put you through by asking thought provoking questions to show you that you aren't getting the sense of the scriptures.

I ask you again: if Muslims are killing people of other religions for the Kingdom of Muhammad then who or what are they killing their fellow Muslims for?

Answer that question first to prove that you're in tune with the scriptures!

Lukuluku69:


Read. Read. Read

That Kingdom will be given to his "Saints" Read the whole of Daniel 7 and use the history of the ancients as it commentaries. Don't allow those guys in Warwick be the one to to tell you what Daniel saw for Daniel himself gave the interpretations.

The cold hard facts of history says it was the Muslims that ended Persia and Grecian Empires till date. Just as Persia ended Babylon. The Romans are wounded but it's time is coming too.

A Kingdom is what it is. People, Laws/Codes. Don't let any one fill your head with an utopian idea of it. A

This is the same Kingdom that Jesus told you that it will break into pieces any one that it falls on.

And yes Muslims do believe in the Bible. But not the Part written by men

For your information all religions on this planet have picked a portion that suits their religion in the Bible but the one and only thing that's exposing all false religions is their failure to produce the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit which qualities are: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

So in the absence of this FRUIT the religion is false based on deceit. Muslims killing Muslims makes no practical sense, even if they're killers it should have been only others not their own fellow worshipers.

cornelboy:

I see.
So definitely, the terrorist group in Nigeria, for example the boko haram were/are actually on a mission to conquer Nigeria for the kingdom of Allah/Mohammed. Cool.

That's why i keep telling people that it's politics those Arabs are playing it's just a pity that a grown up man is thinking like a toddler.
How can someone come from another country and tell me to kill my own people for his own religion claiming God said so?

cornelboy:

Lol.
So you guys are planning wars against the Romans?
Which part of the Bible wasn't written by men?
Guy na men write the Bible.
You've to prove from the Qur'an where Allah/Mohammed predicted Islam as a Kingdom that would defeat other kingdoms.

That's why i love JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, they will teach you how to get the PRACTICAL BENEFITS of what you're reading in the Bible but Islam only quote books even when what they're saying makes no practical sense they will stick to their quote claiming everyone must abide by it.

That's why i'm asking him thought provoking questions to show him that what those Arabs taught him makes no sense.

Imagine Muslims in Iraq killing Muslims in Iran and both of them are fighting for the same Kingdom!

MaxInDHouse:


For your information all religions on this planet have picked a portion that suits their religion in the Bible but the one and only thing that's exposing all false religions is their failure to produce the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit which qualities are: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

So in the absence of this FRUIT the religion is false based on deceit. Muslims killing Muslims makes no practical sense, even if they're killers it should have been only others not their own fellow worshipers.

Keep the delusion go on. You damn well that what I am saying is the truth but because of your internet stipends from the hierarchy won't let you admit to that fact.

You see that fruits your have been droning on, when we analyse it, you will see that what your organization mistaken it for is not what Jesus meant.

So, are we done with Daniel or you still need further schooling before we move to Isaiah?

MaxInDHouse:


Why didn't he lead the so called VIOLENCE if it is to be understood your way?

Ọmọ Muhammad is dead as in DEAD so God's Kingdom can't be established in the name of a DEAD man. If you're arguing blindly we will put you through by asking thought provoking questions to show you that you aren't getting the sense of the scriptures.

I ask you again: if Muslims are killing people of other religions for the Kingdom of Muhammad then who or what are they killing their fellow Muslims for?

Answer that question first to prove that you're in tune with the scriptures!

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He did not lead the Army because it is written " the dominion will be given to his saints"

If you bother to follow rather than cling to the needle eyes view of your elders at Warwick, you will notice that these FOUR EARTHLY KINGDOMS were not Worshipping the True God at least according to Daniel.

Babylonians, Persia, Greeks, and Romans do they worship your Jehovah? These are the Kingdom the Muslims took out. Some permanently and one wounded.

Lukuluku69:
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He did not lead the Army because it is written " the dominion will be given to his saints"

If you bother to follow rather than cling to the needle eyes view of your elders at Warwick, you will notice that these FOUR EARTHLY KINGDOMS were not Worshipping the True God at least according to Daniel.

Babylonians, Persia, Greeks, and Romans do they worship your Jehovah? These are the Kingdom the Muslims took out. Some permanently and one wounded.

So why are Muslims killing Muslims if they are the saints?
Àbí your own god can't resolve issues among it's worshipers?

cornelboy:

Lol.
So you guys are planning wars against the Romans?

Which part of the Bible wasn't written by men?
Guy na men write the Bible.

You've to prove from the Qur'an where Allah/Mohammed predicted Islam as a Kingdom that would defeat other kingdoms.

Muslims are not planning any war with Rome but if it is ordained by The One Most High that He want a Kingdom taken down, he uses men. Read your Bible you will find many instances of this in it.

When God want Babylon taken down, He used the Persians and when He want the Persian Kingdom taken down He used the Muslim Arabs.

So, if He want The Roman system taken down, He will use Humans. And don't think you will be among because we know you are cowards hiding under a Tourtured interpretations of Scriptures..

You are having issue believing the meanings of the same Bible you have been carrying for years and you want to know what the Quran and Hadith says about Babylon, Persia, Grcian and Roman Empires? Lol

Believe the Bible first.

MaxInDHouse:


So why are Muslims killing Muslims if they are the saints?
Àbí your own god can't resolve issues among it's worshipers?

Stop being smart by half Oga. We are talking about the Muslims that stood up against The Persians, the Grecian Trinitarian as well as the Roman effigy worshipers.

Was Moses a saint? He was even called a god did he not oversee stoning to death of a fellow Jew?

So pray tell how did your god resolve the issue between Jesus and the Jews?

MaxInDHouse:


So why are Muslims killing Muslims if they are the saints?
Àbí your own god can't resolve issues among it's worshipers?

Was that why you ran to that sect? Yet you went along with your Islam ideologies...and you think you are not mad?

Allah is your one and only true God. Better openly embrace him

Lukuluku69:

Stop being smart by half Oga. We are talking about the Muslims that stood up against The Persians, the Grecian Trinitarian as well as the Roman effigy worshipers.
Was Moses a saint? He was even called a god did he not oversee stoning to death of a fellow Jew?
So pray tell how did your god resolve the issue between Jesus and the Jews?

Jesus declared that the Jews against him aren't worshiping the same God with him! John 8:44

But in your own case Muslims are worshiping Allah with other Muslims so why can't your Allah resolve the disparities among it's worshipers?

I have told you that only JWs are worshiping my own God that's why we have the same line of thought globally just as Jesus prayed {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} as for all other religions claiming believers once you people can't resolve the issues leading you to killing your fellow believers i can't understand your god!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus declared that the Jews against him aren't worshiping the same God with him! John 8:44

But in your own case Muslims are worshiping Allah with other Muslims so why can't your Allah resolve the disparities among it's worshipers?

I have told you that only JWs are worshiping my own God that's why we have the same line of thought globally just as Jesus prayed {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} as for all other religions claiming believers once you people can't resolve the issues leading you to killing your fellow believers i can't understand your god!

Satanist aka Antichrist. Can you raise your hand in that sect and say women are worthless without a man right in their faces?

Can you go there and start spewing your Islamic ideologies?

Dumb F@g. Jesus has denounced you already.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus declared that the Jews against him aren't worshiping the same God with him! John 8:44

But in your own case Muslims are worshiping Allah with other Muslims so why can't your Allah resolve the disparities among it's worshipers?

I have told you that only JWs are worshiping my own God that's why we have the same line of thought globally just as Jesus prayed {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} as for all other religions claiming believers once you people can't resolve the issues leading you to killing your fellow believers i can't understand your god!

Lol. The thing they have done to your brain Sha. Jesus said the Jews against him aren't same God with him yet he was forever entrying their synagogues, calling on them and always appealing to their scriptures. He even said he is ascending to his father and their father. Well go sort that out with the Jews I am no Jew.

As for your group and the credentials you presents, bros you and them fall short. Yours is just one of the numerous groups that take a portion that suits them and make a Religion out if it.

If you will stay the course, I can wean you....

Lukuluku69:

Lol. The thing they have done to your brain Sha. Jesus said the Jews against him aren't same God with him yet he was forever entrying their synagogues, calling on them and always appealing to their scriptures. He even said he is ascending to his father and their father. Well go sort that out with the Jews I am no Jew.

He was calling faithful ones and about 500 gathered to see him off the earth showing that those are the Jews worshiping the same God with him even his immediate family aren't as important as those agreeing with his line of thought! Matthew 12:46-50

Lukuluku69:

As for your group and the credentials you presents, bros you and them fall short. Yours is just one of the numerous groups that take a portion that suits them and make a Religion out if it.
If you will stay the course, I can wean you....

What God's word said is clear, during the last days a group will emerge and people from all races throughout the earth will flock in what they will achieve is there written in God's word! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

As for your Islam you've not explained why your Allah failed to make PEACE reign among it's worshipers yet you're always saying "peace be unto the householder" whereas there's no PEACE among the worshipers of your Allah!

Lukuluku69:

Muslims are not planning any war with Rome but if it is ordained by The One Most High that He want a Kingdom taken down, he uses men. Read your Bible you will find many instances of this in it.
When God want Babylon taken down, He used the Persians and when He want the Persian Kingdom taken down He used the Muslim Arabs.
So, if He want The Roman system taken down, He will use Humans. And don't think you will be among because we know you are cowards hiding under a Tourtured interpretations of Scriptures..
You are having issue believing the meanings of the same Bible you have been carrying for years and you want to know what the Quran and Hadith says about Babylon, Persia, Grcian and Roman Empires? Lol
Believe the Bible first.

Lol. Why don't you first show me where Allah talks about establishing a kingdom and using the kingdom to defeat other kingdoms?

cornelboy:

Lol. Why don't you first show me where Allah talks about establishing a kingdom and using the kingdom to defeat other kingdoms?

You should know that their Allah is no other person than Muhammad, the guy deceived them and used everything they had until his death. He took so many women including the wife of one of his own sons sleeping with any woman that comes his way, ruled them and enslaved them. In fact he used them as cover anytime enemies are after him until he was killed at age 62.
Muhammad thought the way he's gathering slaves he could conquer the world of his time so he made them believe that if they should continue with the same idea they will conquer the world. That's why they're looking for Bible verses to support what he told them!

cornelboy:

Lol. Why don't you first show me where Allah talks about establishing a kingdom and using the kingdom to defeat other kingdoms?

I have shown you where Jehovah used the Persians to take out Babylon and also shown you where Jehovah used the Arabians to take out Persian and Grecian Empires. And what was your response?

I bet you have quoted Daniel 2:44 a zillion times without knowing what it means. Lol

If I showed you in the Prophetic Tradition the same thing you won't believe it because in your heart is a disease and it increases because you have deliberately become deaf, dumb and blind.

MaxInDHouse:

He was calling faithful ones and about 500 gathered to see him off the earth showing that those are the Jews worshiping the same God with him even his immediate family aren't as important as those agreeing with his line of thought! Matthew 12:46-50


What God's word said is clear, during the last days a group will emerge and people from all races throughout the earth will flock in what they will achieve is there written in God's word! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

As for your Islam you've not explained why your Allah failed to make PEACE reign among it's worshipers yet you're always saying "peace be unto the householder" whereas there's no PEACE among the worshipers of your Allah!

The empty babbles begins.

Anglo-American in Daniel Prophecy. You and your elders are Baba Suwe proteges Walahi.

When are we looking at Isaiah nah?

Jesus greeted the disciples with same greetings yet one of them sold him for a miserable 30 piece. So say something new.