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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 12:35am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: Lol give it up, I know you desperately wants us to derail like your zoo. You know what they say,” misery loves company “. Newsflash some section of the refinery has started commissioning. Come mid 2023 a d we are selling hot oil and making hot dollar. You will weep and will be here taunting you for my amusement. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 1:40am On Oct 10, 2022 |
GeneralDae2:Refined petro products acct for 40% of total import. Imagine the effect it will have on the naira, gdp will surely jump to nothing less than $750bn, gdp per capital go hear am, price of food will reduce, power transmission upgrading will have been completed by then, investor go dey rush economy like agege bread |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 2:30am On Oct 10, 2022 |
gallivant:Kenya has done all that so it makes sense for Kenya to now promote the use of firewood or charcoal? I wish you knew how stupid you sound 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 7:38am On Oct 10, 2022 |
gallivant: No Kenya is not the biggest wind energy producer in africa In addition it does not have largest installed grid in Africa! South Africa with over 7000GW followed by distant 2nd Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, senegal.. Kenya wind production is similar to that of Namibia, Malawi Geothermal Kenya has a lead, anyway not every country will have Geothermal capability its a geographical feature thing 1 Like
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:46am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Pray it doesnt die - Dangote is indebted to the gills - 7B dollars - and still need 1B dollars to complete it. The cost has shot up from 12B dollars to now 19B dollars. The refinery cost grew to $19 billion after initial estimates of $12-$14 billion and years of delays. State oil company NNPC, which last year acquired a 20% stake in the refinery for $2.76 billion, said that it expects the refinery to start in the first quarter of 2023. samorobo: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:48am On Oct 10, 2022 |
False hopes. There will be a similar drop in crude oil export. You can ramp up oil production - to meet OPEC quotas - and that is when we shall see impact. QuietMynd: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:54am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Biomas (charcoal+firewood) will continue to be main source of cooking for quite some time in rural Africa. We should focus on making it more cleaner and efficient - and embracing commercial tree farming to replace it. You can focus on reducing thermal (diesel oil) that you generate most of Ghana power first. vankelvin: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:23am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Fresh fish business is gradually returning to its peak in Maiduguri following progress made in decimating Boko Haram terrorists and restoration of relative peace across the state. Hundreds of traders, including wholesalers and retailers, have engaged in the supply of fresh, smoked and dry fish from the fishing communities in Baga where local fishermen supply to the wholesalers in Maiduguri and other major towns and cities in the state. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:39am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:all Ghana thermal units run on natural gas Focus more on using there water you pump into the earth to supply thirsty Kenyans who rely on streams as source of drinking water 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:57am On Oct 10, 2022 |
That was 2014-2016. Today, approximately 16.6% of rural Ghanaian households rely on pipe-borne water as their main water supply, with 11% obtaining water from public standpipes (SPs) and the remaining 5.6% from private or shared household connections (GSS, 2014). Just40: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 9:15am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: There is nothing to pray about,it’s a done project. There is no Jupiter that will stop it’s from getting completed. Now you pray for your zoo rather than declaring doom to others. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:20am On Oct 10, 2022 |
KaziKazi I hope the Magufuli error (era) is over and you're ready for business. Let see if you will be petty or will sell to us your natural gas. https://twitter.com/WilliamsRuto/status/1579379175479472131 https://nation.africa/kenya/videos/news/president-ruto-address-in-tanzania-3979690 |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 9:22am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: Lol no get a grip ifbb b yourself. We would be selling the final product if crude oil as well as the raw oil itself. Joe tgats is making the entire money of that value chain,unlike when we sell to Europe then import the final product twice that price - we aren’t only saving the forex but also entertaining a serious boom. Be scared ,africa won’t see our butts. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:34am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Cost of refining crude is 3-5 dollars a barrel. Only Dangote will eventually become very rich. I dont see much impact on Nigeria economy. Going by 20B investment - that he will need to recoup - it will become another cement or rice - more expensive internally - than imported. Dangote will ask Abuja to ban import of cheaper refined products so he can monopolize it - and will load his expensive refined products on Nigerians. Until you reform your economy from the Northern Elite Capture of Abuja led by Dangote - expect to see few fat cats and a HUGE ZOO. In simple English - just like you buy cement or sugar or any Dangote product very expensively - expect the same on his refined fuel - as he will load his cost to poor Nigerians. samorobo: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae2: 9:46am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:Dangote is heavily indebted to Nigerian Banks for the project after the cost increased from his initially planned 12 billion dollars to 19 billion dollars because he had to build his own small Dangote deep port in lekki and provide some road infrastructures amongst other additional infrastructures due to problems that arose from 2016 after the initial planning and design. However, by the time the proceeds (with interest payments) from the refinery start flowing back to Nigerian Banks who provided Dangote over 90% of the debts, that would be beneficial to the Nigerian economy. Nigeria would not have to pay subsidy, that is beneficial. If Dangote buys crude in naira, it would improve the naira, even if we only supply 500,000 barrels per day to the world from our usual 1 million barrels, we would still benefit because oil prices are still likely to remain high for a while. If the other refineries owned by NNPC come on board within the next two years and we fix power supply, we may not even have to depend on Dangote for local supplies, he'll just export. No matter how you look at it, it's very beneficial to the Nigerian economy. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:56am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Manufacturing is only beneficial if it's competitive. If it's protected - it's a double whammy. It would be cheaper - freight factored - to import from more efficient Indian or South Korea refineries. Look at you cement or rice - it's way more expensive than imported ones. Basically, what need to happen is to give Dangotes few graces period to grow from infancy- then allow him to compete internationally - if they cannot compete - they close shop. The problem with Africa - mostly Nigeria - few companies capture the state - they ban imports - enact monopolies or oligopies - and economy pays for their inefficiencies. The first thing Dangote will do next year - is to ask Abuja to ban import of refined fuel. GeneralDae2: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae2: 9:58am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:On the bolded, there is nothing Dangote sells astronomically higher than other suppliers in Nigeria. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:01am On Oct 10, 2022 |
He controls the market then ask Abuja to ban cheaper imports. And they do as he wishes. Dangote Cement controls 61 per cent of the market share, Lafarge Africa 22 per cent and BUA Cement the rest Why dont you allow imports to come in freely if Dangote is competitive. GeneralDae2: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae2: 10:05am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:Why allow imports, when we are by far the largest producers of cement in Africa? |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:22am On Oct 10, 2022 |
And most inefficient - you're buying cement almost twice the price in Kenya. GeneralDae2: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 10:52am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:Dangote can't go broke forget what people are saying. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 11:01am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:The dangote refinery will be the most efficient in the world 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 11:04am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:Because, it would affect the naira. Dangote doesn't even ask government to ban things like people always say. The government willing does it because it would help local industry |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 11:11am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Just40: ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 11:13am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Fourpockets:And job creation. Not to mention the multiplier effects. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 11:17am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:Lol, thesame production capacity that is there already, Just remove the bottleneck nd everything fall in place back 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 11:19am On Oct 10, 2022 |
I'm now convinced Kenyans don't want any African country to progress other than theirs. Only Kenyans (in this thread) argue with Ghanaians, South Africans, and Tanzanians ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:38am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:Which one was 2014-16? I'm referring to Kenya recent livings standard report in your census where where almost 60% of people rely on open bodies of water while the remaining rely on tankers, water sold in gallons, boreholes and only 10% have pipe water You do realize that less than 30% of Ghanaians are rural dwellers right? 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 11:54am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: Nonsense. Dangote didn’t spend that much to get into competition with international oil refiners outside the shore of Nigeria. Dangote refinery will save Nigeria’s economy and cement our dominance. Things like this shouldn’t even be up for discussion,it’s just common sense. And once NNPC is done revitalizing their refineries amongst other private refinery coming on stream then dangote pms would be strictly for export- more enhancements of the naira. Pls be scared ,I completely understand. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 11:56am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: Let’s worry about that. Dangote refinery inevitably save the Nigerian economy, this is common sensical 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 11:57am On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: Because we are trying to cut down on import and be a more export based economy. Use your brain my friend. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 11:58am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Fourpockets: Tell the ret@rded envious pig. |
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