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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 6:06pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
obaaderemi: A classic zoo case. I will drag that hid with him. I remember his saying the official of those report are incompetent to place certain countries over them in hdi. Just imagine, so he is more knowledgeable than them and their analysis doesn’t count for Kenya when it’s bad but counts for Nigeria when it’s bad. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:12pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
kikuyu1:You are not the tranny, the tranny knows himself. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:14pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
It doesnt matter the capturer. You wont ride in Dangote private jet just like I wont ride in a Kenyan indian jet. What matters is the millions of kenyans and Nigerians. Are they getting value for money? Is the economy working for them or a select few. obaaderemi: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:15pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
samorobo:That's the problem I have with them. When the data goes against them they tell you it's manipulated. One of them, the transgendered I recall, actually said it was a Nigerian who fixed the data. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:17pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:We will get value for this. Take for example, your ailing airline. Why is it still flying and wasting tax payers money when it should have been allowed to drop from the skies years ago? |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:18pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:20pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
You're wrong. 1) Biggest problem with Nigeria downstream sector is FUEL SUBSIDY - that will always lead to problems including shortage. Kenya tried it this year and for the first time ever we saw Nigeria like queue. It was surreal. The best way to distribute money back to Nigeria is through roads, schools, hospitals and security for all. Not by using 1/3 of the budget to subsidize petrol for people who own cars or any mechanical motor. 2) Of course, it a huge shame that you cannot refine your crude oil - and capture more value from it - but ITS NOT a panacea to the problems facing Nigeria. 3) Upstream - production is falling - despite high prices - after years of under-investment and insecurity. How will Dangote fix this? When he is likely to even want to buy crude below the market price. Nigeria has unmet crude oil market - first with US through AGOA and with huge quotas at OPEC it can no longer meet. 4) Dangote and Nothern Elite economic capture of Nigeria just got a tighter grip with that oil refinery. What you're doing protecting Dangote and few elite businesses so as to save forex from rice, sugar, cement and oil - is CREATING poverty - if Dangote doesnt become efficient. Asian tigers protected their countries infant industries for a period of 5-10yrs - then they were expected to compete - with international companies. Why for example do you still ban the import of bagged cement - what - 20yrs later? Dangote has gone international - yet you still ban cheaper cement - that mean domestic cement production is not working - it still inefficient - and is costing the economy. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:26pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
KQ was profitable before it run into head winds about 10yrs ago - Ruto gov has given it 2 more years - because most of the problem are really managerial - nothing wrong with fundamentals. If after 2yrs it wont be profitable - gov will exit. KQ is a strategic asset for kenya because our horticulture sector need a reliable airline to fly flowers and vegies to Europe on a daily basis. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Wuoche: 7:21pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Wuoche: 7:22pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 7:36pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018:And who are you to dictate to us if the refinery would add value or not? |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:40pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: Pls let dangote capture Nigeria as much as he likes. He is one of the largest employers of labor in not just Nigeria but Africa. The whole of africa can’t even wait for the multiplier effect(jobs) this refinery will bring. Be worried Indians are capturing your zoo, a Nigerian capturing Nigeria should be the least of your problems. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 7:47pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
Shma2022:you guys are something else, honestly speaking. So because google opened it's first product development center in kenya mean no investor will choose other nations over kenya ![]() But the same google choosed Nigeria over kenya in 2020 when it opened it's African development space in Lagos and inherently choosed Ghana over kenya in 2019, when it opened it's first African artificial lab in Accra. ![]() These companies are building ecosystems in the continent, from cape town to Cairo but u thought their activity is centered around Nairobi ![]() ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:47pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
obaaderemi: Even if it’s was a Nigerian that made the list ,does it’s mean the Nigerian would be deceitful to Kenyans. 90% of Nigerians probably don’t even know of Kenya if if they exist. The fools are judging based on our engagement on this thread. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:48pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
theenchanter: They are all close-minded and I can’t stand them . All of them,not one is spared. Must be a kenyan thing. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:50pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
obaaderemi: Exactly. I don’t want to say too much,but he will learn soon enough. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:52pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
rvp2018: My guy dangote refinery which is the world largest refinery would put our economy on steroid. The massive economic ripple effect can’t be fathomed. The entire world is waiting for it. Convince me otherwise if you can. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:02pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
Fourpockets:You're spot on. Land in Nairobi is too expensive. You can imagine buying an acre of land for a whopping $3M and then setting a value insubstantial two floors house! It's a waste of money right? Unless you're a dollar billionaire who wants a quiet life within the CBD. Nairobi being guided by strong zoning laws, we can't allow skyscrapers to pop up in residential areas. No resident will grant you approval. Skyscrapers are only sprawling in 3CBDs: Downtown, upperhill, and westlands. Recently; kilimani joined the league. For the high-end tycoons; posh areas like Karen, Runda, kileleshwa, Roseline, MUTHAIGA, Lavington, etc are part of their dwelling hood. In short, we have different tastes. We build skyscrapers for economic value.
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:19pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
theenchanter:I'm addressing the status quo, gleaning from the ignorant post received from the famous grand olodo. samorobo: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 9:12pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
Shma2022: And so what has that got to with google and Microsoft opening hub in Kenya and not in Nigeria (even though they are already here) or Nigeria not getting any investment(even though our fdi both oil and non oil is bigger than yours by far). And btw I was talking about the real estate sector in context,and what I said is true- prove me wrong. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Horus(m): 9:57pm On Oct 10, 2022 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYjtzkkhPlE Kenya's President calls for Borderless Africa to facilitate Regional Free Trade 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae2: 7:24am On Oct 11, 2022 |
Nigerian Agriculture in Kano is fvcking big and employs so many people. Just too informal and lacking infrastructure for widespread distribution. Here in this video, we hear from these small scale manufacturers that many produce are also distributed to Cameroon, Niger, Chad etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79gWKeZCnso |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:02am On Oct 11, 2022 |
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:07am On Oct 11, 2022 |
GeneralDae2:Nigeria is a huge country and the people are very enterprising, from south to north, east to west and in-between. The Nigerian economy is larger than believed. What a serious government needs to do is fix security in the north and east corridor, and do something tangible about electricity. And also fix education in the north. The missing link in Nigeria's quest for development is the north. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:32am On Oct 11, 2022 |
I dont see how this is big. it's chaotic mess. You gov need to encourage farmers to belong to cooperatives and the cooperative to build silos - and assist in proper marketting of their produces. Kenya has National Cereals Produce board that has silos all over the country - it not functioning well but it way ahead of nigeria The same is replicated in tea, coffee, etc. You need formalized marketing boards..hopefully run as cooperatives that aggregates smallholder farmers.. that not only meet the local needs but the export of these products...not flea markets like these. Ghana has good Cocoa board.....it just a shame Ghana gov sometimes uses it as collateral to borrow money ![]() GeneralDae2: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:43am On Oct 11, 2022 |
PRESIDENT RUTO says his government will explore raising financing for State projects at the NSE as opposed to borrowing from external markets. http:///3EAZAem One of Uhuru failure was not use the Nairobi Stock Exchange to raise financing for gov. Ruto is keep to change this...and today rung the NSE bell. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:48am On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:I agree. However, this grain business is still big because it is situated in the second most populated state in Nigeria with around 20 million people and majority are employed by these and other agricultural activities. Textile is also big in this state employing millions but informal trade as well. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:50am On Oct 11, 2022 |
Nigeria dont screw this opportunity. Please elect this man - Peter Obi - and let him assemble the likes of Ngozi - to fix Nigeria. Otherwise you're DONE KAPUT. https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2022/10/10/peter-obi-a-man-who-carries-his-own-suitcases-could-be-nigerias-next-president As public campaigning was about to begin in late September, Nigeria was rocked by the release of three polls showing Mr Obi well ahead of the two candidates representing the main parties that have mis-ruled Nigeria since the restoration of its democracy in 1999. In two of the polls Mr Obi has a lead of more than 15 percentage points over Bola Tinubu, of the incumbent All Progressives Congress (APC), and Atiku Abubakar of the People’s Democratic Party (PDP), the main opposition. What makes this even more extraordinary is that Mr Obi is standing for the Labour Party, whose candidate at the previous presidential election in 2019 won just 5,074 votes out of 28m cast. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:51am On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:Maybe due to these sentiments your NSE market reacted yesterday as it gained around 2% for the trading day (if I'm not mistaken). But your market really suffered this year though due to capital flights and all that. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:52am On Oct 11, 2022 |
It's hard to tell how big or small it is because it's chaotic informal unhygenic mess. It cannot grow. It will remain anemic. Nigeria cannot export their produce if they continue like this. Worldwide farmer cooperatives are key. China has giant coop - Supplies and something. India has gigantic one for milk. Kenya is big in cooperatives. And Ruto is going even big on this. You have to formalize the supply chain. GeneralDae: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:54am On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:The population involved in such businesses and the constant trading activities makes it big irrespective of it's informal status. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:55am On Oct 11, 2022 |
How do you know apart from rough guestimation what got sold or bought and for how much - you need a percentage of this formally marketted. GeneralDae: |
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