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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:22pm On Oct 12, 2022
Theflint1:
Bros you really do have time on your hands, na you no know their strategy dey answer dem. Fencists or those trying to form some kind of funny objectivity are the most annoying I swear. It's 4 months to the election and till today we haven't heard anything from Tinubu yet these guys will come here and start nitpicking on Peter Obi's talks...you really get time dey answer dem I swear. At this point, everyone should do what pleases them...it's very very obvious that those supporting Tinubu are doing so because of one form of bias or the other...all this talk of objectivity na scope. A candidate that has been either showing obvious signs of ill health, out of the country or have as his major highlights him attacking opponents or parties is who these guys are propping up yet with Peter Obi na there dem go remember say dem sabi objectivity...clowns.

Last time Tinubu was out, his major talking point was saying those asking for a change should be told to shut up...no plans, no talk on strategy, nothing, just vibes and crass bahavior from a man well into his 70's.

Bros, forget objectivity, all these objevtivity dem dey form na just scope.

Some of us have taken Tinubu and Atiku as they are. Thieves who have nothing good to offer apart from lining their pockets and that of their cronies

Problem starts when you guys start putting out Obi as a saint and saviour coming to rescue our nation. What we are telling you is that we can see through his lies and pretence. He is not different from the others you guys love to vilify. He is cut from the same cloth.

By the way, why have I not seen Obis children leading all these 1m matches for Obi.

Let me guess, his children are safely tucked in London while people are fooling themselves walking several kilometers in the sun for him.

So much for him being different.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:24pm On Oct 12, 2022
liveLongNprospa:


If we are irredeemably fvcked bro, then why bother about anything going on during this election?

Do you see me talking about it anymore?

I only came here yesterday because that interview was fresh, and i wanted DonJ to answer it, but as usual, he hasnt.

Some of us are not only tired of the country. We just dont want the same mistake of 2015.

Its quite unfortunate it may happen
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:27pm On Oct 12, 2022
nihilistjnr:


If you knew anything about your country, you would understand why cutting salaries of NASS members is anything but simple.
The Nigerian Constitution as defined by the NASS you're talking about said this about their Renumeration Package

"A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall receive such salary and other allowances as Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission may determine" - Nigerian Constitution chapter 5-part 1 section 70
http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm

In other words the only body that can define NASS Salary by law is RMAFC

Now, RMAFC members comprise of
(a) a Chairman; and
(b) one member from each State of the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja who in opinion of President are persons of unquestionable integrity with requisite qualification and experience.

By virtue of Sections 154(1) and 156(3) of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (As Amended), Members of the Commission are appointed by the President subject to the confirmation of the Senate for a period of five (5) years
https://rmafc.gov.ng/establishing-law/

Essentially, NASS determine who can set their salary, not the President. So how is President Obi going to get NASS to agree to cut down on their wages?

If you spent more time actually understanding the huge mess facing that country, instead of training your gag reflex on virtual phallus, maybe you would be able to understand why a lot of us here are not buying Obi's middling soundbites.



Even the NASS salary itself will do shit in comparison.

The National Assembly budget including everyone working there and their capital expenditure is around 125bn annually.

It's not even up to half of what ASUU is asking for as salary increase.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:34pm On Oct 12, 2022
Im struggling to ppen nairaland pages from my end. Is anyone else experiencing it?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:44pm On Oct 12, 2022
I get you bro, I do...our options are not ideal, and they've never been ideal, but at the end of the day, we need to choose and choose right. I'm sure if you ask the average American who their ideal president should be they won't choose Biden or Trump, but Biden and Trump were who they had and they made a choice between both. Peter Obi is not an ideal candidate, but the contest is not between Peter Obi and our ideal candidate, it's between Peter Obi, Tinubu, and Atiku. You can't say because you're not getting the ideal then fork it, you'd go with the very worst of the three candidates.
liveLongNprospa:


OH I understand you.. Which is why I won't waste time in trying to convince someone addicted to the male Instruments or a tribalist or a coward doc or an emotional agbado supporter grin.


Izzou asked a reasonable question and I had to reply... The others I mentioned can fvck off grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:50pm On Oct 12, 2022
izzou:


Do you see me talking about it anymore?

I only came here yesterday because that interview was fresh, and i wanted DonJ to answer it, but as usual, he hasnt.

Some of us are not only tired of the country. We just dont want the same mistake of 2015.

Its quite unfortunate it may happen
Those that made the mistake of 2015 are the ones that know why they decided to choose an ex-dictator/coupist that was obviously not well and clearly bereft of ideas. Buhari of 2015 looked stronger than Tinubu of 2022. We don't have ideal choices, our job is to make the best choice from the unideal choices in front of us.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 12:52pm On Oct 12, 2022
izzou:


Do you see me talking about it anymore?

I only came here yesterday because that interview was fresh, and i wanted DonJ to answer it, but as usual, he hasnt.

Some of us are not only tired of the country. We just dont want the same mistake of 2015.

Its quite unfortunate it may happen


If the same mistake happens again, it should not surprise you or affect you if you believe the country is irredeemably fvcked. Infact I expect that you should live your life without expecting the government to get better grin.


Unless you are saying you care about this election and you have hope for Nigeria grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 12:53pm On Oct 12, 2022
larride:


Even the NASS salary itself will do shit in comparison.

The National Assembly budget including everyone working there and their capital expenditure is around 125bn annually.

It's not even up to half of what ASUU is asking for as salary increase.

Nah I get that completely.

I just wanted to address the DickJockey's claims that cutting NASS salaries was a simple matter for the president.

I think it's become apparent to everyone that the Obidolts are having a tough time rationalising the vision of an Obi presidency against the reality on ground.

I'm now beginning to see comments like "don't talk to them again" or "I'm only answering ezzou" because you have to suspend logic to believe anything Obi says, and it's getting harder and harder for them to actually defend his inanities without having to insert their own spins on his utterances

Itsrm:


Some of us have taken Tinubu and Atiku as they are. Thieves who have nothing good to offer apart from lining their pockets and that of their cronies

Problem starts when you guys start putting out Obi as a saint and saviour coming to rescue our nation. What we are telling you is that we can see through his lies and pretence. He is not different from the others you guys love to vilify. He is cut from the same cloth.

By the way, why have I not seen Obis children leading all these 1m matches for Obi.

Let me guess, his children are safely tucked in London while people are fooling themselves walking several kilometers in the sun for him.

So much for him being different.

Point. Blank. Period

GloriousGbola:


I have said the man is trump lite

We will start hearing about Nigerian deep state.

He will just use a naija term for it. The saboteurs or the 'vandals' (if you know you know).

I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling him a Trump. That guy was actually on a different level.
I think he's more similar to Boris as a prolific but relatively 'benign' liar with a huge PR machine behind him

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:55pm On Oct 12, 2022
Logical and factual arguments from GloriousGbola nihilistjnr izzou itsrm

If you can the best choice for you is to japa or find a way Nigeria can be paying you.

But if you are still in Nigeria and voting in the next election do not vote for any snake oil salesman

Vote Tinubu

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 12:58pm On Oct 12, 2022
Itsrm:


Some of us have taken Tinubu and Atiku as they are. Thieves who have nothing good to offer apart from lining their pockets and that of their cronies

Problem starts when you guys start putting out Obi as a saint and saviour coming to rescue our nation. What we are telling you is that we can see through his lies and pretence. He is not different from the others you guys love to vilify. He is cut from the same cloth.

By the way, why have I not seen Obis children leading all these 1m matches for Obi.

Let me guess, his children are safely tucked in London while people are fooling themselves walking several kilometers in the sun for him.

So much for him being different.





You say Obi is cut from the same cloth as these guys right... Now show me anywhere Obi stole money while in government.
Or Obi killed his political opponents...
Or Obi ensured he imposed his will even after leaving office..


Yunno what just show me were Obi stole money from anambra state?



And as for the talk about his children.. Wetin concern me abi are you looking for straws to clutch..
You talk about been realistic yet your points show how childish you are. Wtf is the point about his children.. How does that ensure his campaign?

Oya go and thank Tinuke because Seyi is active nau grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 12:58pm On Oct 12, 2022
Itsrm:


Some of us have taken Tinubu and Atiku as they are. Thieves who have nothing good to offer apart from lining their pockets and that of their cronies

Problem starts when you guys start putting out Obi as a saint and saviour coming to rescue our nation. What we are telling you is that we can see through his lies and pretence. He is not different from the others you guys love to vilify. He is cut from the same cloth.


By the way, why have I not seen Obis children leading all these 1m matches for Obi.

Let me guess, his children are safely tucked in London while people are fooling themselves walking several kilometers in the sun for him.

So much for him being different.



They will never understand this.

The world sees these Okwute miscreants as eediots for a reason.

I’ve been saying this, hammering this right from Chelsea thread, but they’ll never get it. They’re very dull and gullible.

They have no brain, slap their head and hear it echo like a bomb blast. Nothing dey inside.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 1:05pm On Oct 12, 2022
Theflint1:
I get you bro, I do...our options are not ideal, and they've never been ideal, but at the end of the day, we need to choose and choose right. I'm sure if you ask the average American who their ideal president should be they won't choose Biden or Trump, but Biden and Trump were who they had and they made a choice between both. Peter Obi is not an ideal candidate, but the contest is not between Peter Obi and our ideal candidate, it's between Peter Obi, Tinubu, and Atiku. You can't say because you're not getting the ideal then fork it, you'd go with the very worst of the three candidates.

Obi is the worst option in this scenario, because assuming he wins the presidential election, whilst labour party flops (as can be reasonably expected) at all other levels, what then?

What next?

How does a minority party President form a government? From what party does he appoint Ministers? How does he pass a budget through Senate? How does sponsor any bills effectively? Would you expect the President to focus more time on growing his party(which he would need to do) than fixing the country? How does he deal with opposition Governors?

How is he not a Lame Duck?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nezzjnr: 1:08pm On Oct 12, 2022
Itsrm:


Some of us have taken Tinubu and Atiku as they are. Thieves who have nothing good to offer apart from lining their pockets and that of their cronies

Problem starts when you guys start putting out Obi as a saint and saviour coming to rescue our nation. What we are telling you is that we can see through his lies and pretence. He is not different from the others you guys love to vilify. He is cut from the same cloth.

By the way, why have I not seen Obis children leading all these 1m matches for Obi.

Let me guess, his children are safely tucked in London while people are fooling themselves walking several kilometers in the sun for him.

So much for him being different.



People campaigning for Obi are fooling themselves??

As I said before .... Obi crime is because he's contesting.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:10pm On Oct 12, 2022
We just no send you.

If e vex you go hug transformer.

grin grin grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:11pm On Oct 12, 2022
donstan18:

They will never understand this.

The world sees these Okwute miscreants as eediots for a reason.

I’ve been saying this, hammering this right from Chelsea thread, but they’ll never get it. They’re very dull and gullible.

They have no brain, slap their head and hear it echo like a bomb blast. Nothing dey inside.

There are effectively 3 cadres of obidients

The influencer social media critics with their own agenda who have pushed all their previous criticisms of Peter obi down the memory hole. It is our time

The wide eyed callow youths whose first introduction to politics was end sars and its after math and who have an ax to grind with the government over this

The unicorn hunters who have somehow fixated on Peter obi to ride in on his charger, wave a magic wand and solve Nigerias problems just like that.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 1:11pm On Oct 12, 2022
This is exactly what I was saying yesterday, man keep dropping gibberish back 2 back.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:17pm On Oct 12, 2022
liveLongNprospa:



You say Obi is cut from the same cloth as these guys right... Now show me anywhere Obi stole money while in government.
Or Obi killed his political opponents...
Or Obi ensured he was an imposter of his will even after leaving office..


Yunno what just show me were Obi stole money from anambra state?
And as for the talk about his children.. Wetin concern me abi are you looking for straws to clutch..
You talk about been realistic yet your points show how childish you are. Wtf is the point about his children.. How does that ensure his campaign?

Oya go and thank Tinuke because Seyi is active nau grin

You keep doing a fantastic job brother. On my part, I deliberately ignored izzuo because I already knew the agenda he was coming with and I saw myself coming hard on him and decided to ignore.

In Obi, you are looking for the 10\10 perfect candidate. You turn on your brightest light to see the stain. Yet you're blind to the others.


First of all, obi is the best of the Three. That has already been established. Maybe it's a good thing the focus is solely on him for this reason.
Secondly, what makes people think that the masses who are voting Obi will also not vote in LP nass members? What makes you think that the Obi tornado will not also sweep in new LP senators and reps like Buhari's CPC did?

I know that abia, Anambra and imo will definitely have lp senators because people like victor umeh, val ozigbo, Alex otti are gaining strongholds all over. It's not illogical to think that LP will have at the very least 10 senators and 30 new reps in nass. With that caucus and the presidency, don't you think they have a good enough bargaining power?


All these noises about Obi is foolishness.

We keep saying, that the significance of Obi winning is even far more important than his ruling.

Because Obi winning, will unravel a lot of things. 1st of all, a total change of leadership will always have a positive effect in the initial stages, secondly all politicians and masses will realize the power of the people and the masses when they have the will.

Voting APC simply means business as usual.
Voting LP means a new dawn and method of Nigerian and African politics.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 1:23pm On Oct 12, 2022
GloriousGbola:


There are effectively 3 cadres of obidients

The influencer social media critics with their own agenda who have pushed all their previous criticisms of Peter obi down the memory hole. It is our time

The wide eyed callow youths whose first introduction to politics was end sars and its after math and who have an ax to grind with the government over this

The unicorn hunters who have somehow fixated on Peter obi to ride in on his charger, wave a magic wand and solve Nigerias problems just like that.

80% of Okwute’s miscreants falls in this category, that’s why they hate Tinubu. Okwute inherited Tinubu’s enemies and that’s why Okwute’s miscreants hardly attack Atiku, Tinubu is their problem.

That’s also why they’re not supporting Okwute based on achievements and record.

Also why they keep proving political oldies right that they’re very clueless and amateurs every time they talk about politics.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:27pm On Oct 12, 2022
You've taken Atiku and Tinubu as thieves that have nothing to offer, so what then informs your support for Tinubu?

You have the option of two thieves coming to rob you...both will rob you of every single possession you have, while one moves on after robbing you, the other will stay back to beat the hell outta you just for the fork of it. I'm sure you don't need any mental gymnastics to decide on which thief you want robbing you.

As regards people propping Peter Obi as a savior, there are so many persons that maintain objectivity as regards Peter Obi and are well aware of his foibles...on this thread, I don't think you can count even three persons that prop Peter Obi as though he's a savior. Besides, I think your decision on who to vote should be based off how you've personally accessed a candidate, and not based on how other persons see/are excited by the candidate.

As regards Peter Obi's children leading 1m march for him...I don't know how to respond to that, but is that now a criteria for choosing a president? grin
Itsrm:


Some of us have taken Tinubu and Atiku as they are. Thieves who have nothing good to offer apart from lining their pockets and that of their cronies

Problem starts when you guys start putting out Obi as a saint and saviour coming to rescue our nation. What we are telling you is that we can see through his lies and pretence. He is not different from the others you guys love to vilify. He is cut from the same cloth.

By the way, why have I not seen Obis children leading all these 1m matches for Obi.

Let me guess, his children are safely tucked in London while people are fooling themselves walking several kilometers in the sun for him.

So much for him being different.



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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:27pm On Oct 12, 2022
Who nor send dey respond .. grin

Haq haq grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 1:28pm On Oct 12, 2022
donstan18:

They will never understand this.

The world sees these Okwute miscreants as eediots for a reason.

I’ve been saying this, hammering this right from Chelsea thread, but they’ll never get it. They’re very dull and gullible.

They have no brain, slap their head and hear it echo like a bomb blast. Nothing dey inside.

You may be right because no one who has a brain will ask me to show him where Obi stole money.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:28pm On Oct 12, 2022
Nezzjnr:

People campaigning for Obi are fooling themselves??

As I said before .... Obi crime is because he's contesting.


Don't mind the fools.
I keep asking these questions.

These people are feeding us this intense negative energy that nigeria will never work no matter what.

We say NO to that. We choose to have hope in this country. We choose to believe that good leadership solves a large part of nigerias problem.

In Peter Obi, we see a credible alternative. We see a man of relative integrity. We see a man who didn't embezzle gazillion dollars for himself with state wealth we see a man who didn't award himself billions of pensions. We see a man who didn't seek further personal aggrandizement by retiring in the Senate like other corrupt politicians do.

We see a man who held a federal position and rejected the benefits that came with it.

We see a man projecting the right imagery of what leadership should be. The shedding of the excess grandiosity of public office. The projection of simplicity.

And the experience of an excellent and recognized leadership record.

But these people just want to feel the need to be contrarian.

I would have ignored all these, but I dread to think that they're are silent readers here whose opinions are shaped by the nonsenses and hopelessness these people keep emanating.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 1:30pm On Oct 12, 2022
PDP swept SE for decades, but a political Raff Rangnick Ekwutos who is an escapee PDP slave for the main big boys then feel he’ll sweep SE with a party that can’t even brag of producing “SUG treasurer”.


Smh!! Make this election come fast fast abeg.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 1:30pm On Oct 12, 2022
Nezzjnr:

People campaigning for Obi are fooling themselves??

As I said before .... Obi crime is because he's contesting.


Between the people doing the 1m match and Obis children who will be the greatest beneficiary if he wins the election?

Shouldn't his own children be at the fore front of his campaign? Why is he hiding them in London? Is that not what every other politician does? What now makes him different?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:31pm On Oct 12, 2022
Who wants to bet that in 2023, LP will have many new senators and House of reps members?

Do any of you sincerely think LP wouldn't win any assembly seat?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donstan18: 1:34pm On Oct 12, 2022
Itsrm:


You may be right because no one who has a brain will ask me to show him where Obi stole money.

Ask the same person to drop video evidence of any Nigerian politician stealing money and watch him bring links from his village website to make a point.

Imagine asking you to show him where Okwute was stealing money. Clueless Okwute’s miscreants.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:36pm On Oct 12, 2022
Itsrm:


Between the people doing the 1m match and Obis children who will be the greatest beneficiary if he wins the election?

Shouldn't his own children be at the fore front of his campaign? Why is he hiding them in London? Is that not what every other politician does? What now makes him different?


You keep dishing out surprisingly stupid arguments. Like, it's now a daily occurrence.

The 2 other candidates themselves barely are available for their own campaigns. They spend the most of their time in foreign countries. Relying on their foolish propagandist to spreading graphic designers up and down the internet while they chill.

Again, I'm not even talking of their children, I'm talking of the candidates, but in Obi, you want his entire family members to be involved, when that's the very thing we're campaigning against, the involvement of family in state politics. And furthermore, as a PDP boy you are, can you show me wike's children campaigning for him or atikus children campaigning for him.
Hypocritical lots.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Expert17: 1:36pm On Oct 12, 2022
donstan18:

Ask the same person to drop video evidence of any Nigerian politician stealing money and watch him bring links from his village website to make a point.

Imagine asking you to show him where Okwute was stealing money. Clueless Okwute’s miscreants.

cheesy cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 1:37pm On Oct 12, 2022
Theflint1:
You've taken Atiku and Tinubu as thieves that have nothing to offer, so what then informs your support for Tinubu

You have the option of two thieves coming to rob you...both will rob you of every single possession you have, while one moves on after robbing you, the other will stay back to beat the hell outta you just for the fork of it. I'm sure you don't need any mental gymnastics to decide on which thief you want robbing you.

As regards people propping Peter Obi as a savior, there are so many persons that maintain objectivity as regards Peter Obi and are well aware of his foibles...on this thread, I don't think you can count even three persons that prop Peter Obi as though he's a savior. Besides, I think your decision on who to vote should be based off how you've personally accessed a candidate, and not based on how other persons see/are excited by the candidate.

As regards Peter Obi's children leading 1m march for him...I don't know how to respond to that, but is that now a criteria for choosing a president? grin

So if I'm not supporting Obi, I must be supporting Tinubu. What kind of logic is this?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:39pm On Oct 12, 2022
donstan18:
PDP swept SE for decades, but a political Raff Rangnick Ekwutos who is an escapee PDP slave for the main big boys then feel he’ll sweep SE with a party that can’t even brag of producing “SUG treasurer”.


Smh!! Make this election come fast fast abeg.


Donstan18 what do you make of the below comments?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:47pm On Oct 12, 2022

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