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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 9:24pm On Oct 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Hmmm.... These Lesotho example ehn, I dey always look am with one corner piece eye. Lesotho is a very small country, they don't even have the population of Bayelsa state. ( Yes the population of Lesotho is around 2 million while Bayelsa's population is way above 2 million in estimation) Yet Bayelsa as a state in Nigeria is more complex than Lesotho when it comes to ethnicity and issues surrounding it.. The major tribe in Lesotho forms like 99% of their population, so tribalism may not really be an.in-thing for them while deciding their president ; same cant be said about Nigeria.

Nigeria has not grown to that stage where people vote forgetting tribal affiliation. This is one problem that still bedevils us as a people. Selling Obi to some Yorubas, Hausa and other minor tribes who don't really have access to Social media is a feat I would like to see Obidients perform.

76% of that 2m are also literate. Just around 480,000 people are illiterates.

Nigeria on the other hand has approx 60m illiterates.

However you look at it, there's no basis for comparison.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:24pm On Oct 13, 2022
Donjazet2:


How you can't see how stupid this bolded points are is truly funny. grin

The choice of Atiku has literally set the party of fire till this moment we both talk. It has been one point of acrimony to another. Any news coming from PDP now is just ridiculous and negative.

Tinubu's choice for VP has weakened his stance in the north central and some christian community in the north that were formally APC.

It has been said numerously that both candidates Atiku and Tinubu made poor choices for their vp, as a matter of fact it's only obi's VP choice that was generally acceptable to all. So trying to compare both is foolishness in the extreme.

this is why we call you a neophyte

the only person setting pdp on fire is wike - because wike is wike. anyone seeing wikes fights with just about everybody would have seen this coming from a mile away

as for shetimma - who is making noise other than the likes of oyedepo and our southern mega pastor cabal - who are sore that all the awoof they were enjoying under gej - [when they were doing private jet measuring contest] is over

on controversial choices of VPs it is interesting that you, our notorious resident batty boy had nothing to say about POs choice of VP - a guy who openly said people with your orientation should be killed .i thought you guys going for PO were supposed to be enlightened, progressive and liberal- not vicious intolerant hyper conservatives . how do you shill for a duo that sees you a subhuman piece of shit that should be drawn and quarterd?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:27pm On Oct 13, 2022
TrebleChamp:
AThey didn't know it would cause so much uproar from Obidients.

you are simply saying what we are all saying.

how can you claim not to know what will rile and upset your political base?

then again - it is only obidients that made up their minds that PO is a new generation politician.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 9:37pm On Oct 13, 2022
Give it to the best Governor Nigeria has ever had since 1999

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 9:40pm On Oct 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:


you are simply saying what we are all saying.

how can you claim not to know what will rile and upset your political base?

then again - it is only obidients that made up their minds that PO is a new generation politician.
Does Peter Obi have any criminal record? Has he ever been accused of stealing public fund? Nobody is a saint, but you can't be naming Obi along side other polithiefcians. People are drawn to him because of his past records, he has shown to be a good manager of Public fund. He will definitely be a better President....

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:53pm On Oct 13, 2022
TrebleChamp:
Does Peter Obi have any criminal record? Has he ever been accused of stealing public fund? Nobody is a saint, but you can't be naming Obi along side other polithiefcians. People are drawn to him because of his past records, he has shown to be a good manager of Public fund. He will definitely be a better President....

is that what you're going with?

does 'thief-nubu the escobar drug dealer' have any criminal record? all of you keep throwing around the so called us drug case [ a story only sahara reporters carried because there is NOTHING in it. we all saw how the DOJ took hushpuppis case. but you keep sharing stories about how Tinubu, a black man, a foeign black man - was somehow enmeshed in drug deals in the US - investigated by the FEDs [the FEDs!] and never saw a day of jail time.

does atiku have any criminal record?

you have a criminal record when you are arrested. neither tinubu nor atiku have been arrested, indicted or convicted.


Peter Obi has no record of performance - what past record does he have ? where are the legacies of his past record? or do you claim not to have seen his kinsmen's comments on his record - the ones they have been hurriedly deleting up and down on twitter for the past four days?

you are drawn to peter obi because you want to punish the ruling party for end sars , nothing more [ or if i want to be more cynical - because he is your kinsman and you have seen an opportunity for a power grab - which is why we have eastern coordinators for sokoto] . it would have been interesting if you wanted to punish the govt for the other numerous extra judical killings that made end sars another tuesday for them [because that unfortunately is what end sars really is - i have not for instance seen any of you protest about the periodical killings of the protesting shittes in abuja] - but thats another story. end sars is a footnote in the history of extra judical killings that have gone on on the watch of EVERY government we have had.



and this is an example of how peter obi manages public funds


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/gov-obi-in-the-web-of-n250-million-controversy/

i wonder if any of you obidinents understand the implications of carrying hugs sums of government cash about for business transactions

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ribbit: 10:11pm On Oct 13, 2022
Ibukzy:
Hmmm
kaiii

See 360 turning.

This is just disgusting.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:31pm On Oct 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:


is that what you're going with?

does 'thief-nubu the escobar drug dealer' have any criminal record? all of you keep throwing around the so called us drug case [ a story only sahara reporters carried because there is NOTHING in it. we all saw how the DOJ took hushpuppis case. but you keep sharing stories about how Tinubu, a black man, a foeign black man - was somehow enmeshed in drug deals in the US - investigated by the FEDs [the FEDs!] and never saw a day of jail time.

does atiku have any criminal record?

you have a criminal record when you are arrested. neither tinubu nor atiku have been arrested, indicted or convicted.


Peter Obi has no record of performance - what past record does he have ? where are the legacies of his past record? or do you claim not to have seen his kinsmen's comments on his record - the ones they have been hurriedly deleting up and down on twitter for the past four days?

you are drawn to peter obi because you want to punish the ruling party for end sars , nothing more. it would have been interesting if you wanted to punish the govt for the other numerous extra judical killings that made end sars another tuesday for them [because that unfortunately is what end sars really is - i have not for instance seen any of you protest about the periodical killings of the protesting shittes in abuja] - but thats another story. end sars is a footnote in the history of extra judical killings that have gone on on the watch of EVERY government we have had.



and this is an example of how peter obi manages public funds


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/gov-obi-in-the-web-of-n250-million-controversy/

i wonder if any of you obidinents understand the implications of carrying hugs sums of government cash about for business transactions


The fact that we have a terrible legal system doesn't mean u should be asking the bolded just to score points.

Atiku was indicted by a US Senate committee report ; the same report that has been relied on to prosecute his fellow criminals in America

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/12/03/corruption-us-senate-report-finally-nailed-atiku-abubakar/%3famp=1

Atiku was also indicted by Nigerian Senate in a probe but due to the immunity he enjoyed that time he couldn't be prosecuted. A sick Yar Adua taking over the reins of power made it almost impossible for him to be tried after he ( Atiku) left government and wasn't enjoying immunity anymore.

Don't forget this is Nigeria where our legal system was unable to convict Ibori but Ibori bagged jail terms for same offence in the UK.

A politician not being indicted or convicted in Nigeria does not necessarily mean such politician is squeaky clean

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:33pm On Oct 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:


is that what you're going with?

does 'thief-nubu the escobar drug dealer' have any criminal record? all of you keep throwing around the so called us drug case [ a story only sahara reporters carried because there is NOTHING in it. we all saw how the DOJ took hushpuppis case. but you keep sharing stories about how Tinubu, a black man, a foeign black man - was somehow enmeshed in drug deals in the US - investigated by the FEDs [the FEDs!] and never saw a day of jail time.

does atiku have any criminal record?

you have a criminal record when you are arrested. neither tinubu nor atiku have been arrested, indicted or convicted.


Peter Obi has no record of performance - what past record does he have ? where are the legacies of his past record? or do you claim not to have seen his kinsmen's comments on his record - the ones they have been hurriedly deleting up and down on twitter for the past four days?

you are drawn to peter obi because you want to punish the ruling party for end sars , nothing more. it would have been interesting if you wanted to punish the govt for the other numerous extra judical killings that made end sars another tuesday for them [because that unfortunately is what end sars really is - i have not for instance seen any of you protest about the periodical killings of the protesting shittes in abuja] - but thats another story. end sars is a footnote in the history of extra judical killings that have gone on on the watch of EVERY government we have had.



and this is an example of how peter obi manages public funds


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/gov-obi-in-the-web-of-n250-million-controversy/

i wonder if any of you obidinents understand the implications of carrying hugs sums of government cash about for business transactions

For real? Because of EndSars and nothing more? Not because of the terrible state of the Economy, high inflation, high level of insecurity across the country, massive corruption and looting of public funds, countless borrowing with little to show for it, general failure of APC, but because of EndSars? You live in Nigeria and has experienced APC useless governance for 7 plus years, and you came up with 'we are drawn to Obi because of EndSars', so if this is the case why aren't we running towards Atiku? I rest my case chief...

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:33pm On Oct 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:

A politician not being indicted or convicted in Nigeria does not necessarily mean such politician is squeaky clean

If we believe the bold, So whats the evidence that Obi is squeaky clean

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 10:38pm On Oct 13, 2022
Agadinaagwuofe:



grin grin grin

Seriously your hypocrisy at the bolden is just laughable. You attacked his video by claiming a South southerner who is not happy with the part Igbo played in the war has the right to vet her anger and again turned around to blame Igbos again for a coup started by a south southerner and claiming it is igbos. Abeg stay one place and stop confusing Amadioha. I understand when the narrative suits you, you rope in Nzeogwu as Igbo when it doesn't you separate him as south southerner. I don't have any issue anyway you want to relive your experience about the biafran war but at least be consistent.
Again, I never said this ,Mr Spin doctor.
South Southerner person saying she doesn't trust Igbos 'again' is insulting to you?The bolded was my first statement before I went ahead to explain that any one who meant that statement had all the reasons to.


The coup was to point out the hypocrisy of screaming forget the past(particularly the war). People were hurt, families destroyed , kids killed by the war and donjazet simply wanted it to be hushed up. Considering how tribalized this country is, Our history and tribal antecedents play a huge role in everyone's decision.

So when someone makes a statement like 'we no dey trust Igbos again'' the person's tribe and personal antecedents and context play a huge role on the statement interpretation.


That statement has/is been made every day by people from Alaba to Sabon Gari to Igbo traders ( especially regarding the quality of what they are selling) so your guy is simply running around with a rotten bone.

BTW, how did u know that Remi was angry when she made that statement

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:39pm On Oct 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:


The fact that we have a terrible legal system doesn't mean u should be asking the bolded just to score points.

Atiku was indicted by a US Senate committee report ; the same report that has been relied on to prosecute his fellow criminals in America

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/12/03/corruption-us-senate-report-finally-nailed-atiku-abubakar/%3famp=1

Atiku was also indicted by Nigerian Senate in a probe but due to the immunity he enjoyed that time he couldn't be prosecuted. A sick Yar Adua taking over the reins of power made it almost impossible for him to be tried after he ( Atiku) left government and wasn't enjoying immunity anymore.

Don't forget this is Nigeria where our legal system was unable to convict Ibori but Ibori bagged jail terms for same offence in the UK.

A politician not being indicted or convicted in Nigeria does not necessarily mean such politician is squeaky clean

that is the point i am making chief.

after all, the same peter obi was also investigated by the anambra HOA over the 250m

he claimed vindication over an act he should have been impeached and ousted for.

every politician including obi has gamed the system in one way or another.

we see the investigation game play out over and over.

so no one should try to claim monopoly of my guy has no criminal case.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:43pm On Oct 13, 2022
TrebleChamp:
For real? Because of EndSars and nothing more? Not because of the terrible state of the Economy, high inflation, high level of insecurity across the country, massive corruption and looting of public funds, countless borrowing with little to show for it, general failure of APC, but because of EndSars? You live in Nigeria and has experienced APC useless governance for 7 plus years, and you came up with 'we are drawn to Obi because of EndSars', so if this is the case why aren't we running towards Atiku? I rest my case chief...


because Peter Obi is part of the same political establishment.

because peter obi has zero record of performance and legacy beyond establishing a distillery in anambra

he has been in politics since the same time as Atiku and Tinubu

he ran as Atikus running mate - with all the baggage atiku has

PDP also had a shit record in 2015 [security, economy, corruption] - and that did not stop Peter Obi from jumping on the PDP satellite party bandwagon]

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 10:59pm On Oct 13, 2022
If Obi take pictures with Nnamdi Kanu, rest of Nigeria seems him as supporting the movement
Even dictators are nice during elections grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:03pm On Oct 13, 2022
raumdeuter:


If we believe the bold, So whats the evidence that Obi is squeaky clean

I really don't know much about Obi and his time as governor ; I can't speak for him. I guess his supporters can answer that
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emmynator(m): 11:15pm On Oct 13, 2022
obainojazz:
If Obi take pictures with Nnamdi Kanu, rest of Nigeria seems him as supporting the movement
Even dictators are nice during elections grin
If MNK starts supporting Obi, rivals will start fanning the regional candidate/ipob angle. And Obi can't afford to have MNK tampering with his SE voting bloc.
I think MNK is a dangerous variable to PO at this point, if I knew better, I would say it's planned grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:23pm On Oct 13, 2022
Emmynator:

If MNK starts supporting Obi, rivals will start fanning the regional candidate/ipob angle. And Obi can't afford to have MNK tampering with his SE voting bloc.
I think MNK is a dangerous variable to PO at this point, if I knew better, I would say it's planned grin

peter obi has always been on record as supporting ipob - at least before the violence

oyibos call it october suprise. this is an october white elephant

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:01am On Oct 14, 2022
This recent report from budgit was very interesting...there were other metrics they measured, if I see it, will share...Ebonyi, Rivers and Lagos are doing well, Ebonyi especially.
Itsrm:
Give it to the best Governor Nigeria has ever had since 1999
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 1:35am On Oct 14, 2022
Itsrm:
Give it to the best Governor Nigeria has ever had since 1999

Just look at Ortom/ Benue state and Diri of Bayelsa angry I mean, what the helll..

Ortom always has a convenient excuse of bandits in his back pocket but what of Diri? I mean, how are you dead last and 2nd to the last, lower than states in the NE..

Who do us this thing for this country angry

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 2:12am On Oct 14, 2022
Itsrm:
Give it to the best Governor Nigeria has ever had since 1999
Imo state grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 6:28am On Oct 14, 2022
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Agadinaagwuofe: 7:10am On Oct 14, 2022
Nostradamus1:
Again, I never said this ,Mr Spin doctor.
South Southerner person saying she doesn't trust Igbos 'again' is insulting to you?The bolded was my first statement before I went ahead to explain that any one who meant that statement had all the reasons to.


The coup was to point out the hypocrisy of screaming forget the past(particularly the war). People were hurt, families destroyed , kids killed by the war and donjazet simply wanted it to be hushed up. Considering how tribalized this country is, Our history and tribal antecedents play a huge role in everyone's decision.

So when someone makes a statement like 'we no dey trust Igbos again'' the person's tribe and personal antecedents and context play a huge role on the statement interpretation.


That statement has/is been made every day by people from Alaba to Sabon Gari to Igbo traders ( especially regarding the quality of what they are selling) so your guy is simply running around with a rotten bone.

BTW, how did u know that Remi was angry when she made that statement

Mr Man, stop tying yourself in a tortuous knot grin. He posted a video of Remi saying she doesn't trust igbos and you countered him by questioning what's wrong with a SS asking such after all their army did to their women during Civil war, he replied you stating that the past is past and you shouldn't dwell in it and you replied with "Igbos started the first coup and killed everyone and allowed Azikiwe escaped". How will you claim a SS has right to distrust igbos because of a civil war started by a SS? I understand if a Yoruba or Hausa is saying that. I don't have a bull in the bull fight just pointing out your hypocrisy. I am not holding forte for Donjazet but if you want to analyse the war through regional or tribal prism, you just have to be consistent not to suit your narratives.

Again Remi is from Ogun state and has his maternal side from Delta, I think someone has pointed that earlier but when someone says "don't trust a whole group of people" it comes from deeper sentiments which can be related to anger nutured over an incident so stop asking me how do I know she is angry when she made the statement

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 7:48am On Oct 14, 2022
Although keneth is awesome but Dele is no march....

This formation is juicy.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 8:05am On Oct 14, 2022
Theflint1:
This recent report from budgit was very interesting...there were other metrics they measured, if I see it, will share...Ebonyi, Rivers and Lagos are doing well, Ebonyi especially.

Please share. I briefly looked for it yesterday but couldn't find it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 8:10am On Oct 14, 2022
Roland17:


Just look at Ortom/ Benue state and Diri of Bayelsa angry I mean, what the helll..

Ortom always has a convenient excuse of bandits in his back pocket but what of Diri? I mean, how are you dead last and 2nd to the last, lower than states in the NE..

Who do us this thing for this country angry



Bayelsa was the most shocking for me as well, if I'm not mistaken, Bayelsa is the least populated state in Nigeria. They also recieve the fourth highest federal allocation.

With good leadership, that state should be competing with Lagos and not Benue
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 8:11am On Oct 14, 2022
obainojazz:
Imo state grin

No surprises there cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 8:14am On Oct 14, 2022
GloriousGbola:


this is why we call you a neophyte

the only person setting pdp on fire is wike - because wike is wike. anyone seeing wikes fights with just about everybody would have seen this coming from a mile away

as for shetimma - who is making noise other than the likes of oyedepo and our southern mega pastor cabal - who are sore that all the awoof they were enjoying under gej - [when they were doing private jet measuring contest] is over

on controversial choices of VPs it is interesting that you, our notorious resident batty boy had nothing to say about POs choice of VP - a guy who openly said people with your orientation should be killed .i thought you guys going for PO were supposed to be enlightened, progressive and liberal- not vicious intolerant hyper conservatives . how do you shill for a duo that sees you a subhuman piece of shit that should be drawn and quarterd?

grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:17am On Oct 14, 2022
Itsrm:


Bayelsa was the most shocking for me as well, if I'm not mistaken, Bayelsa is the least populated state in Nigeria. They also recieve the fourth highest federal allocation.

With good leadership, that state should be competing with Lagos and not Benue

God supposed punish every governor that has ever governed Bayelsa state. A state with just 8 local governments ( most of it on water), they have little population issues to worry about like u pointed out and one of the states that receive most allocation from the federation account. Yet the people of the state don't feel the Impact of good governance.

It's like their governors always share the allocation with the chiefs and kings and the people just keep mum instead of asking for good governance.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 8:37am On Oct 14, 2022
BlueRayDick:


God supposed punish every governor that has ever governed Bayelsa state. A state with just 8 local governments ( most of it on water), they have little population issues to worry about like u pointed out and one of the states that receive most allocation from the federation account. Yet the people of the state don't feel the I.pact of good governance.

It's like their governors always share the allocation with the chiefs and kings and the people just keep mum instead of asking for good governance.
The leaders will tell their people that is FG that's holding them back and that settles it.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:48am On Oct 14, 2022
BlueRayDick:


It's like their governors always share the allocation with the chiefs and kings and the people just keep mum instead of asking for good governance.

the masses are always the easiest to manipulate and use

look at kogi, where yeye bellow has been fiking them over for the last 8 years suddenly being mobilized for nonsense demonstrations against dangote.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:54am On Oct 14, 2022
Itsrm:


Please share. I briefly looked for it yesterday but couldn't find it
It's on this link...https://twitter.com/BudgITng/status/1577907407296028673?t=5oZTvE55SkbIhdvcrouPKg&s=19

Lagos' ease of doing business is low, no surprise there, and it means despite the revenue currently being generated by the state, there's still so much potential being lost.

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