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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 8:13am On Oct 28, 2022 |
mostob: Wow Love knows no bound 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by austineaddy: 8:58am On Oct 28, 2022 |
mostob: Man like Osimhen!! 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 9:11am On Oct 28, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: You are right, Nerdie. in my assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of our players, Eze may not have a starting berth especially in midfield, however the left wing is open. He has what it takes to start there depending on the how the coach intends to approach the game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 9:35am On Oct 28, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: Picture below, Iwobi playing at wingback, last season. The fact he can effectively play that position doesn't mean that's his best role. Learn, brother. 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:26am On Oct 28, 2022 |
It is already established that Iwobi's talents should not be wasted on the wings no matter how well he does there. He did well at RB/RWB last season... have you seen calls from me for him to continue there? You are just deliberately twisting the context of "Effective" all because you want to defend your gaffe on Iwobi and I have clearly stated several times that Iwobi excelled in all positions he played last season be it RB, CM, LM, RM or Wingback. What we have here is a narrowing down of the fact that Iwobi's best roles lie centrally and be it AM, CM or DLP, he is at his MOST EFFECTIVE. That is the bone of discourse. So don't bring up Wingback nonsense when we all already know Wingback is not where he is at his very best compared to Central roles. You are the one who said Iwobi won't do well as an AM. You are the one who called him a Brain Freeze whenever he enters the box yet his entering the box has produced what is arguably the assist of the season so far. And he did it Playing AM You are also the one who was arguing with me when I said Iwobi was gonna play midfield vs Fleetwood Town even if Tom Davies had started because I suspected Lampard was gonna try out a midfield 3 and this he eventually did by the next 2 matchdays of the EPL after that League Cup tie and it had been a midfield 3 ever since. Your argument that day?? You said Iwobi was gonna play winger. How that has been proven wrong till this day is funny and you never called it back to say how wrong you were. You never owned up to your wrong call then despite witnessing how right I was. Yet you claim as seen in the post below to own up to being wrong. How fallacious. TheLoneCitizen: So Citizen... It is not I who has to learn. It is rather You. Coz you have again been proven wrong as regards Iwobi featuring as a #10 just as you have been times and times again since we first engaged in discussions. Doesn't it bother you that you always end up being wrong with respect to arguments with me? Iwobi has played, very effectively, 3 midfield roles this season... 6, 8 and 10 and he has been brilliant on almost all occasions with the last producing 2 assists with him in the #10 (AM) role. You said, EVERY TIME IWOBI GOES INTO THE BOX, HE SUFFERS A BRAIN FREEZE. EVERY TIME, YOU SAID. That was clearly you pushing your fallacious agenda for Iwobi's inability or insufficiency for the AM role. So rest! Own up to your Brain-Freeze Gaffe. TheLoneCitizen: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:33am On Oct 28, 2022 |
Well, Eze on the left is possible even though he is more comfortable as an AM through the middle. But I trust he will operate more invertedly encroaching into the left halfspaces in the final third. He is pretty good at receiving the ball on the half turn and such plays mean he would need a strong overlapping fullback with fine recovery who would attack the touchline gap Eze's inverted movement would create. Eze will feature as a kind of false winger in this set-up. A winger-playmaker. So yes, it is possible as long as the other tactical sides of this set-up are well drawn and in sync and like you said, depends on game approach. Meliforme: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:40am On Oct 28, 2022 |
Meliforme: I don't think it's so simplistic. Iwobi goal scoring record over his entire career is very far from prolific. He does a lot of good work coming forward and since at Everton also backtracking and defending. However, he sometimes flatters to decieve that he should score a lot more as a AM/ CM . Bu he just doesn't. On the other hand Eze coming forward look a lot more likely to score. A comparison of their statistics confirms the observation. Iwobi in over 8 seasons of EPL football has never scored more than 3 goals in a season. It's predominantly 1 or 2 goals as a season. Eze first season in the EPL he scored 4 after scoring 14 goals in the Championship. Eze didn't do too much in 2021/22 he was largely injured but still scored 1 goal after 13 games coming on largely as a substitute from injury. But it's 11 games and he has scored 2 and Iwobi after 12 has scored 1. I really have no preference but as a goal threat and I think Eze has a bit more invention and unpredictability. I think the SE could play with both and a hard working DM like Onyeka and or Ndidi behind them. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:52am On Oct 28, 2022 |
komekn: How many times did Iwobi ACTUALLY feature as AM in the EPL for Club that you should compare with Eze's AM Stats in the Bloody Championship? Iwobi as an AM in the Super Eagles has more than most produced good numbers. We saw that especially under Rohr. So his goal threat is also present. As for the bolded in your last sentence... it just shows you don't know anything tactically related to midfield plays and you don't mean well for the progress of the Super Eagles. What do you mean by Onyeka and/or Ndidi. So you considering Onyeka and Ndidi as a possibility in the same midfield?? Goodness!!! Playing with limited MFs like Onyeka and Ndidi both in the starting lineup will only give you physical power, more brawns but very little (or marginally zero) brains. Ball playing at its worst. Passing sequences will suffer. We would always be on the backfoot. Bia Komekn, you don't mean well for us at all and you clearly lack understanding of tactical middle game dynamics and what's required to establish a truly balanced Midfield. Rest! P.S: We are not getting Eze anytime soon. He still has English Three Lions Goals. So I guess we should stop fantasizing about what will likely NEVER HAPPEN until he decides to turn up for us. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:35am On Oct 28, 2022 |
Chukwueze's goal yesterday from slightly outside the edge of the box, centrally. Had missed a really big chance earlier. Check from 4mins 45secs of the video highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDyOcJEJV7E Courtesy: CBS Sports Golazo - Europe. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:36pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
I pray for days where our football is no longer dependent on money as motivation to beat an opponent in the KO stages of a continental or World event. I pray for days where it is not a big deal for the players in cadet competition seeing their FA president traveling all the way as ginger. I really pray those days come So Olympic boiz got 500k from SE captain as motivation? Anyway, it's the current state of things. Just hate that it is now the format. The MO. The Way. Garnacho just need talk from ororo his idol. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:40pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Our hands are so loaded with talents right now that we should be favourites for this Afcon trophy. Almost all positions in attack got double and equally lethal reps. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:54pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
daveP: I don’t want to agree with dis phrase again of loaded with talents,7years of no football identity is a big no for me 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 1:39pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Hbd to uzoho as he turns 24 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:10pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Name your top 3 SE strikers and why |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:31pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Joebie: Osimhen- Fast, aggressive, good hold-up play, potent goal scorer and decent header of the ball. Moffi -aggressive, has an eye for goal, decent finisher. Desserts- intelligent in the box, decent finisher 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:47pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
zuchyblink:dey deceive yourself 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:55pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Alex Iwobi gets some fan love via ART https://twitter.com/heather_mc_88/status/1585927087143018496?t=4QO3kvfO2TiNqNaq0-R4mA&s=19 12 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 3:08pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
daveP:500K per goal bro.... Money is now being used as motivation. SMH 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:02pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
daveP: I think it's same reason our Flamingos lost out, after receiving all bonuses, they were promised 5k dollars each, if they win the semi final 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 4:07pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
TheSuperNerd: I remember egging you on about exploiting your literary and journalistic talents. This is refreshing to see! 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 4:23pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
daveP: This was echoed for the last two iterations. Let's just wait until the actual tournament to make conclusions 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 4:41pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Tunisia may be thrown out of the World Cup if their Sports Ministry makes good it’s threat to interfere in the running of the Tunisia FA… |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 4:42pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Donmobi:Mad o |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 4:56pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
daveP:wallahi if I see another person talk say we get loaded talents for our team i fit find that person go house. Talents wey no dey useful for national team. which kind yeye talent be that. Normally by this time we suppose don dey announce fifty man list for world cup make forgiveness don start to dey shout tribalism and corruption based on team list wey drop. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:04pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
mostob:If you are a salary earner sir, please return your next salary, bonus, Christmas allowance or 13th month pay. And if you be entrepreneur abeg only collect money for materials on your next job. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:20pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
elyte89: The last decade has been horrible truly. But what we are seeing on individual level is a good thing (not the NT level o. We never gel on that aspect to be a force yet) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:21pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
mostob: Like, just imagine. Is it that bad? Are we indirectly admiting our football prowess is now absolutely dependent on this? Funny thing is they fit lose now. Cos everyone go wan score 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:23pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
do4luv14: 5k!! I never got wind of this though. Too terrrible. Smh. Funny enough, for girls their level, 5k na big money. Yet dem dey do like watery frog for pk. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:23pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:24pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Ppogbae: I conceed to this. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:26pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Amedino99: You still use style add forgiveness inside African Pep do this one. Plus foolish and archaic leaders. To set rules na wahala. To do long term thing na Wakanda. Dey don turn am to political style where predecessor will do one thing, and successor will just come and change it instanta. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:36pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
Unrelated... What this thing flying around that De Gea isn't in Spain's 55 man provisional world cup squad list? Must be politics cus even in his worst form, De Gea is still one of the best goalkeeper Spain has.. 2 Likes |
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