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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by KINGS100(m): 6:44pm On Oct 28, 2022
That's not reincarnation, You saw a ghost. Reincarnation means the dead person is reborn in another body. That's the difference. Reincarnated soul have a body and can't just disappear
Onetenth:
I have never believed in reincarnation but my eyes did saw one yesterday

Here's the story:

Year 2020, I think around may according to his parents because I can't recollect, this neighbor of ours and close friend to my sibling was into cultism.
There's was a cult clash at ikorodu that year and he lost his life, I wasn't told I was there life when police released his corpse to his parents and I was even part of those who digged the grave he was buried. Two years ago oo..


Now, this is year 2022, I saw this boy at orile, he wanted to board the bus I was in with my girlfriend. Immediately we both saw each other I wanted to scream but I couldn't I don't know how. But everyone in the bus saw my reaction, this boy disappeared on that spot.

This isn't a made up story, if there's any nairalander at orile bustop around that time will testify to this.

Omo! I still can't believe what I saw, I cried till I got home, my girlfriend was shocked and speechless as well. How did he do that? How did he disappear in midst of people? Why is he not dead? There's obviously something spiritual about this that I'm not told.

His mom has been hospitalized since we got home and I explained everything that happened. He was her only child. This is so disheartening and scary as well


Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Stevo35: 6:44pm On Oct 28, 2022
Onetenth:
I have never believed in reincarnation but my eyes did saw one yesterday

Here's the story:

Year 2020, I think around may according to his parents because I can't recollect, this neighbor of ours and close friend to my sibling was into cultism.
There's was a cult clash at ikorodu that year and he lost his life, I wasn't told I was there life when police released his corpse to his parents and I was even part of those who digged the grave he was buried. Two years ago oo..


Now, this is year 2022, I saw this boy at orile, he wanted to board the bus I was in with my girlfriend. Immediately we both saw each other I wanted to scream but I couldn't I don't know how. But everyone in the bus saw my reaction, this boy disappeared on that spot.

This isn't a made up story, if there's any nairalander at orile bustop around that time will testify to this.

Omo! I still can't believe what I saw, I cried till I got home, my girlfriend was shocked and speechless as well. How did he do that? How did he disappear in midst of people? Why is he not dead? There's obviously something spiritual about this that I'm not told.

His mom has been hospitalized since we got home and I explained everything that happened. He was her only child. This is so disheartening and scary as well



That's Not reincarnation' that's ghost.
It happens for real to people who didn't die well' My landlord was into mysticism.In 2003 my landlord was seriously ill and was moved to his village in AKWA IBOM STATE for treatment he later died and we were not informed about his death.The ghost came to CALABAR and asked for payment of his house rent' when his relatives later came to inform us about his death everyone was shocked. We all said but he was here yesterday' the relatives said no! how can that happen' that he died 4 days ago. Nna come see temple run to park out was everybody's plan.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by madjune(m): 6:45pm On Oct 28, 2022
Kajaard:


You write well with good English. It's been long I've seen a properly composed post on this platform. Nice one cool

I had my education in the 90s Nigeria.

Today, our youths learn from the internet.

Education gleaned off the pages of books is far different from online write ups etc.

Let's OBIdiently pray and hope our standards are restored.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by kingxsamz(m): 6:45pm On Oct 28, 2022
07kjb:
I always say it here that it is not about forming porsh or the so called atheist

Anybody that doesn't believe in spiritual powers is a big fool

It's not by shouting or calling people fools. What tangible thing are you doing with your so called "spiritual knowledge"? How has it helped your life compared to others who don't believe?

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by HomeTutorsPro: 6:47pm On Oct 28, 2022
studentofTruth:


Yes, your explanation is true. It's a brain misfiring. But it's not a thinking thing (thinking is done with the prefrontal cortex); it's a subconscious process involving the hippocampus and the amygdala, without the necessary input from the prefrontal cortex. The prefrontal cortex (emotional consciousness center), which normally verifies and ratifies info from those two organs to keep things in check was momentarily suppressed.

Here's how it happens:
The hippocampus is the emotional memory center. From time to time, it flashes a memory and the prefrontal cortex processes it and keeps the amygdala in check by putting the memory in its place in consciousness.

In the OP's case, the prefrontal cortex was momentarily suppressed (either by hunger, stress, or any other thing) when the hippocampus flashed the image of the dead person. With the prefrontal cortex unable to keep the amygdala in check when the hippocampus flashed the image, it freaks out and triggers the fear response — sympathetic system, adrenaline, and subsequently cortisol.

The prefrontal cortex was shut out at the crucial moment. Now that it has been jolted up, the entire limbic system is telling it that it has to believe what happened to be real. A pathetic situation.

This is a hack babalawos and pastors have been using for donkey year's — suppress the prefrontal cortex and suggest to lower brain (hippocampus-amygdala complex) that control emotional memory and response!

Well dissected.
I hope your readers will understand the vocabulary therein.
I hope righteousness22 will not see the bolded part of your comment.
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Kajaard: 6:47pm On Oct 28, 2022
madjune:


I had my education in the 90s Nigeria.

Today, our youths learn from the internet.

Education gleaned off the pages of books is far different from online write ups etc.

Let's OBIdiently pray and hope our standards are restored.

Likewise cool
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Kobojunkie: 6:50pm On Oct 28, 2022
KeyEndurance:

Pray For God To Add More Disappearance for Him
Huh? undecided
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by netmillionaires(m): 6:51pm On Oct 28, 2022
OP I know say you go be one of the people wey almost beat me up for capping nonsense. Now you don chop your own. One by One, all these Atheist woke guy go collect them own breakfast.



Onetenth:
grin bro na still d fear wey dey my body oo.. but honestly I want people to contribute to this. I have never believed this stories before, I really wanna know somethings
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Aldol: 6:51pm On Oct 28, 2022
youngZee23:
I no fit gamble with this kind thing oh
It's better not to attempt it if you are not spiritually strong. Just like dogs do bark at night and midnight and you wonder what they are barking at, the truth is they are seeing different creatures we ain't seeing with our naked eyes. Although there is something we call ' Weju' in the southwest that can be done on you to see every spiritual things but person go mad las las grin grin imagine walking and you see a jinn walking upside down coming in your opposite direction,you must run abi, as you are running you begin see different scary creatures on your way, on the trees, on the refuse dump etc na to begin run kitakita , madness don start be that o

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Oliver14(m): 6:51pm On Oct 28, 2022
You either saw his look alike or the man faked his death. Or you saw an apparition.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by emkz: 6:51pm On Oct 28, 2022
First those arguing blindly that there is no reincarnation, please don't argue about things you don't know. Just read and learn.

If you immerse yourself in your cultural history, you'd see that reincarnation has been part of our existence. Read books like Abiku by Wole Soyinka, I think. Even the Bible mentions something about reincarnation, but many dismiss it.
John 1:19 This is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent to him priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who are you?"
John 1:20 And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, "I am not the Christ."
John 1:21 They asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" And he said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No."
John 1:22 Then they said to him, "Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?"
John 1:23 He said, "I am A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, 'MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,' as Isaiah the prophet said."


Then the Book of Matthew hinted at reincarnation.

Matt. 11:14 "And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come."

But many who are Christians today prefer not to believe. Its fine, its for the protection of the average person that he does not believe.

To the OP, the person that died did not reincarnate. Reincarnation means being reborn in a different form as a human being in a different place. What you saw was a disturbed soul who could not leave the earth and would continue to wander around where they died because their current existence is tied to that place. It mostly happens to those who died violently.

Now for those who don't believe, watch a movie called "Naomi", it explores the concept of what happens to a person who dies violently. He wonders aimlessly until it understands it is trapped and tries to make the best of it.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by studentofTruth: 6:52pm On Oct 28, 2022
Onetenth:
so if I'm hallucinating, my girlfriend and others in the bus are also hallucinating abi? Oga rest, u know little about this world

Now, let me address you well in the language you will understand.

At which share in the bus was the fellow seated? Who's sitting next to him in the box?

At what point did you notice that he's disappeared? Can the person sitting next to him attest that the seat was occupied and suddenly became empty? Can this fellow sitting next to him describe the clothes he was wearing?

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Strikethem: 6:53pm On Oct 28, 2022
Oloniyan:
I wouldn't have believe but my reasoning changed the day i saw my late mum.

The experience is out of this world.


Don't bother Mentioning me cos i won't explain.
Really, I have only seen my late parents in a dream.
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Zeezenho: 6:53pm On Oct 28, 2022
money121:

Wetin concern Tinubu for dis matter? Make una dey get brain small small now

Habaa is dis wnt Obi teach una

Oga they calm down nah am only trying to protect our democracy.
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Biafraaa: 6:55pm On Oct 28, 2022
Urheadmaster:
One time I was in ikotun to attend prophet TB Joshua service.

The hotel where I lodged, we were watching African magic and the movie was about dead related script.

Somehow, argument started that you can see a dead person you know alive in another city.

One lady among us even told us that, if you doubt it, you should go to the centre of ikotun market around 12:midnights and bend down you'll see a dead person you know from your village grin.
Did you try it comrade? grin

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Nobody: 6:56pm On Oct 28, 2022
Total rubbish story. You expect me to believe this crap.. angry
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Kobojunkie: 6:58pm On Oct 28, 2022
shantti:
1. So his mum getting hospitalized from the news faults the op's experience.

2. Let me ask u. Are you the endorser of reality. Nothing is real unless you endorse it abi, because you are the alpha and the Omega.

3. You are falling back on hallucinations becos you have no solid counter.

4. Among those that don't believe this, I only respect the lady that asked if everyone in the bus saw the vanishing. That's maturity which u dont have
1. Op hallucinating and rather than get his facts right or at least understand the event wasn't a result of a Brea in his psyche, used it to assault a woman still grieving the loss of her son, is what I see here. undecided

There was no contact made, no message related, nothing, yet he ran to the dead boys mother to tell her what exactly? He could have maybe headed to the boy's grave himself first to find out the reason why the Spirit chose to appear to him at least, before heading to the dead boy's mother with whatever it is he may have found out. undecided

2. I don't need to be endorser of reality but we all most at least approach all things the way of commonsense, right? undecided

3. No, I am falling back on hallucination because it is the most probable explanation for what happened to OP given that OP himself does not even understand what it is or why it did ....hallucinations do that to you. undecided

4. That's your cup of tea. I am more after the facts of this which Op does not seen to have much to speak of. undecided
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Danniedpastor(m): 6:58pm On Oct 28, 2022
Ikennablue:
people fake thier death. Especially when they are running away from something. Death brings a kind of closure and to an extent, dismisses every potential threat to your life.

If your story is true, a person involve in cultism can fake thier death especially when a rival is after your life, it makes much sense. The whole thing about you digging his grave, if I'm faking my death, the party involve will do everything possible to make it look real.

About him disappearing, oga, he just escaped very fast. People don't disappear. He never died. There's nothing like reincarnation

See the way you are struggling to explain what you don't know. At this point, it would have paid you more to just pay attention to other and perhaps learn something.
Bro, no knowledge us finite.
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Kobojunkie: 6:59pm On Oct 28, 2022
shantti:
Must you always be right? What if u are wrong on this one Nne.

What makes u think your personal belief can change reality.
You don't have to like my questions so feel free to ask OP your own. undecided
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by emkz: 7:00pm On Oct 28, 2022
And to the OP, certain experiences are better off not shared.

It disturbs the "harmony" in the society. Try not to do it again.

Those who are still doubting, I think the message is that you should not be shocked if you experience it. It is not a new thing.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Excel70: 7:00pm On Oct 28, 2022
Onetenth:
yeah same thing I was told by lot of people. He was trying to pass a message to me, but why did he disappear after seeing me? Honestly I'm still not myself, I can't sleep alone in my room
Look your friend is dead and gone. What you saw was a jinn who took the appearance of your friend. This is according to my religion Islam you can ask a knowledgeable Muslim for more
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Kelvin3476: 7:00pm On Oct 28, 2022
Richy4:
This story is making me doubt my comprehension skills and English language understanding..

Is it that the OP saw a ghost of someone that he once knew or that he saw a reincarnation of someone that he knew... which is it

Is reincarnation not different from an apparition? Why was it used side by side?
U KNEW HE MADE A MISTAKE USING THE TERM REINCARNATION.

SOO GO AND SIDAN
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Mozegee: 7:00pm On Oct 28, 2022
You may be an indomie generation but things like this do happen.if you don't know, just shut up and learn from elders here.
PENNYSWAP:
Just shut up cuz u r obviously telling a fat LIE ...

See person wey follow dig grave

Infact which cemetery una dig the grave ?


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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Ayojb: 7:02pm On Oct 28, 2022
drlateef:





Every soul has a jinn assigned to it. That jinn can replicate the image of that soul after the death of the person. The jinn does not die after the person has died. They are the ones who appear as humans so as to confuse humans to make them believe in re-incarnation.
to what purpose? Why do they want to confuse humans?
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Danniedpastor(m): 7:04pm On Oct 28, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I wasn't there hence my shock at your claims. undecided

So a human being dematerialized in the middle of a crowd and it just so happens that all of their attentions happened to be on that one man who disappeared at the time that it happened? undecided

You and your galfriend and all the others just happen to have been paying attention to this one man when he poof.... disappeared into thing air just like that... this in a crowded bus? lipsrsealed

How come these sort of things don't happen in saner climes abeg? undecided

Did you say "saner climes"?
Do your research there real life ghost stories in US and Europe.
Did you not read the story of the black american that reincarnated as w white child?
It was posted here on Nairaland few days ago.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Vello(m): 7:04pm On Oct 28, 2022
mechanics:
Surely there is life after this earth, when one dies is either the soul of that person goes to hell or heaven and the body goes to the ground, then after the rapture the body will now join with the soul and goes to the final destination, read the Word of God well, reincarnation does not exist at all.
You are a born again
Born again are sheep
You are a � Sheep!
Sheep is a mumu

Let them finish you with Bible that some wicked idiots wrote to subjugate and dominate your life.
Small data of N100 could have saved you from the nonsense you forced me to read.
I pity your life!!!
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by tianshie(m): 7:05pm On Oct 28, 2022
Onetenth:
so if I'm hallucinating, my girlfriend and others in the bus are also hallucinating abi? Oga rest, u know little about this world

what was the reaction of the conductor, and folks in the bus.

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by shantti(m): 7:05pm On Oct 28, 2022
Kobojunkie:
You seem to have something about me asking questions here... why? undecided

U hardly ask questions, u counter people's opinions instead.

U always have a quest for the need to be right. Because of that u counter everything, in your so called woke delusions. I don't know if it is pride or what, but you hardly learn from others.

I don't know if ghosts are real or not, but I wouldn't counter a ghost story simply because I don't believe in it or haven't experienced it. I would rather open my mind to learning.

You must not counter everything, it is possible that u could be wrong, everything is not about sounding woke woke

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by udemzyudex(m): 7:06pm On Oct 28, 2022
Some will still say you're making things up.
Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by Nigerianfactor: 7:06pm On Oct 28, 2022
Onetenth:
grin bro na still d fear wey dey my body oo.. but honestly I want people to contribute to this. I have never believed this stories before, I really wanna know somethings

Well if you really want to know I can give you some explanations.
1. Many of us unknown to us have look alikes to the extent that you can bet your last dime on it.
2. There is a spiritual side. God has, through the Bible informed us that when a person dies, he is dead, until God says it's time to resurrect him. But a wicked spirit (Satan) wants to counter that narrative. Through his angels (the demons) he tries to prove God wrong by impersonating the dead persons. The question is, who are you going to believe?

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Re: I Saw A Dead Family Friend Two Years Later by PrinceGallant: 7:07pm On Oct 28, 2022
The Akudaya myth: What I know

In my native Nupe language, an Akudaya is called ‘Tsulozhin’. It’s a compound word consisting of three different words:

Tsu (originally tsitsu) lo (lilo) and zhin (zhin-zhin). ‘Tsitsu’ means dying; lilo means going; and zhin-zhin means returning. Thus, a tsulozhin is someone who is believed to have returned to life after death. The belief that the dead can return back to life is deeply-rooted in African traditional belief, and is connected to the belief in voodoo and superstition.

As a young boy growing up in my village of Lafiagi, I’ve heard a lot of these stories flying around and we’re being told by elders who we believe know better and have seen it all. Some of the tales were too ridiculous to believe though but we had no reason to doubt their veracity given that we were too young to be independent-minded.

There was the popular story of Hajiya Fatima from Ketso who was allegedly killed by a witch known as Nnaputa. She was buried like every other deceased persons. Later, she was seen at Gbodoti by some Fulanis and brought back to town to the shock of many who witnessed her burial.

As we grew up, we also heard about people who had died for years but were later seen in other places, some have become rich and have wives and kids. This is not Nollywood. They were stories that we heard with our two ears. The storytellers claimed that they witnessed it with their two eyes too. However, anytime an attempt is made to locate them in their new settlements, they disappeared into thin air, sometimes leaving their wives and children behind.

In the mid 2000, a certain Shemi from Raba rose to prominence as the chief witches and wizards hunter in Nupeland. He waged a serious war against the evil of witchcraft and was moving from one town to the other on invitation, liberating people from the claws and clutches of the evil men and women. No doubt he was using powerful Jinns and magic to overpower and disarm his victims. Most times, he subjects them to dehumanizing treatments; shaving their hair (heads and pubic) and stripping them completely naked.

We enjoyed watching the videos, seeing the dreaded men and women of the underworld confessing their crimes against humanity. Some of the revelations from those videos reinforced our beliefs that indeed, it is possible for the deceased to reappear or return back to life.

This created a whole lot of confusion in our heads when we first came in contact with Tawhīd and ‘aqīdah and were told that once a person dies, he can never return to life until the Day of Resurrection. We doubted our teachers. They have neither seen nor heard the things that we’ve seen and heard, we thought.

Years later, when we read more ‘aqīdah books as well as books on أخبار الجن والشياطين/ عالم الجن والشياطين, we were able to juxtapose and critically study the two seemingly contradictory issues and arrived at the following conclusions:

* Allāh is the Creator and Terminator of all lives (Q.67:2). Thus, no life can be taken except by His permission (Q.3:145)

* Death is the end of man’s sojourn on earth. i.e. once a person dies, he’s gone forever, never to be seen again in this real world. (.23:99-100)

* Any claim of seeing a deceased person can only be in dream. This is consistent with the Sharī’ah.

* Some Shayātīn among human beings possess the supernatural powers of bewitching people to see things that never were. (See Q.7:116) Thus, they create an imaginary image of their victim, causing him to be still and dead, while the real person is held and screened away from the people’s eyes.

* The imaginary being is thus covered in shroud and buried, while the real being is taken away to another place. Sometimes, they are left wandering inside bushes and thick forests where some are attacked and eaten by dangerous animals, some are taken to far away cities were they get married and beget children, and some live a wretched and abnormal life. It’s some of these people that are later brought back to their hometowns

* The Shayātīn among the Jinn can also appear to people in the image of their lost ones in order to cause confusion and crisis. In this situation, the person is truly dead and buried. However, the Shaytān will appear in his image so the people will think that he was brought back to life. Sometimes, people like that are brought back home, and sometimes they disappear into thin air, leaving behind their wives and children. The Prophet made reference to this when he said:

من رآني في المنام فقد رآني، فإن الشيطان لا يتمثل في صورتي

“Whoever sees me in his dream has indeed seen me, for the Shaytān cannot appear in my image.”

This implies that the Shaytān has such abilities. And he did appeared to Abū Hurayrah in the image of an old, frail man.

Therefore, Akudaya is nothing but a satanic fraud to destroy the aqīdah of the people and turn them into apostates and idolaters. It is important to always say our adhkār and ruqyah prayers to seek protection from the evil machinations of the Shaytān.

We must purge ourselves of such false beliefs as reincarnation and reappearance of the deceased.

Sanusi Lafiagi

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