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| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by efficiencie(m): 7:48pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
Templee333: Na bro. YHWH sounds nothing like HU even if it is pronounced without the vowel sounds. HU is monosyllabic but YHWH is clearly not. If something indeed happened to you as a result of singing HU then there must be substance to it and the next step is to investigate where it stands, either in the light or in the darkness, either in peace or in chaos, either in freedom or slavery. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 7:43am On Nov 05, 2022 |
efficiencie:Well, maybe u need to read my post again. I mentioned what happened. As for YHWH matter, please ignore it. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Janosky: 11:57am On Nov 05, 2022 |
Templee333:YHWH matter no go ever dey him Sunday school class. Templee333 "holy Bible is not fit for this our era". Atheist pastorpreneur   1 Like |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 8:26pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
chieveboy:do you eckists believe the Genesis creation story in the bible? i stumbled on something in the eckankar website that prompts this question. I'll also like to know how you regard all these evolution tales. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 10:28am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Templee333: Eckists like and strive to proof things for themselves rather than blindly believing things. The art of eExtension of Awareness (aka soul travel) into timelines that may have existed 2m yrs ago gives Eckists and many others in different other religions a tool for true knowledge. The story carries some element of reality to it. The Bible carries unbelievable truths that if the original translations and events where to be what is found today in it, Christianity and Islam especially may be totally different religions from what they are today. We (Humans) as we are known today are indeed modified by some beings from outer space. Without even Soul Travelling to when this event occurred, the Bible was clear on that. It said "let's make man in our image...". That sentence was concise and clear but today, people like to twist things just so an agenda may be upheld. This is not to mean if you reconcile that scripture with how Cain married in another land where the people where warned against harming him, you won't find that there is a lacuna dangling before you. "chariots of fire", "pillar of cloud", "tower of babel", "Lord", "Lord God", " Baal" "sons of God from heaven who fancied human girls" and so on are in-your-face screamers for: advanced technology that could teleport, space crafts, extraterrestrial administrators/ranks, positions, extraterrestrial characters (who seem like God) and so on. Language, translation, semantics and also outright crookedness of those responsible for which book made its way to what is known as the Bible took away a lot. John for instance referred to aircrafts as "flying horses" in the book of Revelations...these people and the translators lack words for these things. The timeline, continent and the actual beings involved in the events of Genesis is where reality and hearsay/outright falsehood went their separate ways. Nothing wrong with all that though. The question is how you work with all these and the level of you contact with the Light and Sound of God regardless of what you know or believe. 1 Like |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 4:26pm On Dec 29, 2022 |
Janosky:for ur information, my members hold me in high esteem and give me respect. How do u feel? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 4:19pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
chieveboy:HI, it's been a while. Hope you are doing good. I just want to ask u why the MASTERS have spiritual name? or do all eckists have spiritual names? What's the significance of a spiritual name and what role does it play in one's journey to spiritual freedom? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 6:41pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
Templee333: It's been a while indeed. Hope you're doing well. Every one has one. Yours is revealed after you attain Mastership. It has power. People love to abuse power, so until they areature to handle what comes with one's name being revealed to them. Mastership comes with a lot of responsibility and freedom of course.
Godhood. But you don't become God. Second year students of ECK are given something similar. It's not their spiritual name, it is a charged word they are given to Foster spiritual unfoldment, protection and all that. It is a word often fetched from the Life Force itself like how one fetches from an ocean. Cheers |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 8:11pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
chieveboy:Do eckists tell their "charge word" to other eckists? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 9:05pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
Templee333: Never! Kamit (the law of silence). |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 9:09pm On Jun 08 |
I have many more questions to ask the eckists here. I'll do well to call the attention of benodic, chieveboy to the thread ones again. All my questions from here and below are directed to you. Please try to go through them whenever it's convenience for you. Thanks 1 Like |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 9:29pm On Jun 08 |
INSANITY is it really proper to refer to some people as "Mad"? If "madness" is just a state of consciousness, how, then do the "normal" people know for sure that those they call "mad" are really out of their mind? What if the "mad" people are moving higher than the "normal" people in their journey to God? Are some of those refered to as being "mad" not the ones that have detached from material things? if mind prevents one from becoming soul conscious, are those said to be out of their minds not actually soul conscious? What exactly makes some people to change from the state of "sanity" to "insanity"? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 9:45pm On Jun 08 |
WOMEN can eckankar allow a woman to take the title of a Mahanta the living eck master? Are men superior to women as some people believe? Was a woman created out of a man's rib as the bible put it? Can a woman conceive without sexual intercourse like the story of Mary? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 10:01pm On Jun 08 |
SEX What does eckankar has to say about sex before marriage? Does celibacy make one closer to God? What about pornograhy and masturbation, do they affect the flow of the holy spirit in one's life? what do you have to say about homosexuality, is it a negative act? what about incest and bestiality, could such acts prevent one from moving closer to God? If a person has multiple sex partner, does that make him/her unable to flow with the holy spirit? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 10:58pm On Jun 08 |
DEATH Since death isn't the end of life, if one puts himself in a risky situation with full knowledge that he can possibly die, will that be considered wrong? what if one willingly sacrifice himself (accept to die) to make the condition of another person better, will that be considered a charitable act? Is it necessary that a dead body be burried? What if it is thrown away, or allowed to decay or burnt? What is the need of taking a dead body to mortuary? Do eckist conduct funerals at eck centres? Are there burial rites? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 7:14am On Jun 09 |
Templee333: To be out of one's mind is enlightenment if this experience comes in a dose one can handle. Some of the "mad" are just people who are ahead of general "reality" while it can be a case of lack of consciousness at all as in CD plate without a single content in it. This would then be matter of state of awareness whether to get provoked when one is said to be "mad"( out of their minds), or to appreciate the compliment. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 7:17am On Jun 09 |
MARRIAGE Do eckist also teach that one must stick to only one woman till death no matter the condition? Are eckist adviced to divorce/seperate and marry another person if things don't go well? If a young man and woman (eckist) agree to live together without observing any "traditional or legal requirement" as the society calls for, will the eckists frown upon them? What if a brother and sister of the same biological parent (or 1st cousins) choose to marry themselves, will that be considered a "crime" among eckists? If a person who is making good progress in the eck path marries two, three, or more wives, will your clergy advice against that? If a married person is reported by her mate for having extra marital affairs, will eckists interfere in such matters or leave the couple to sort it out between themselves? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 7:25am On Jun 09 |
Templee333: People switch genders each time they incarnate. This incarnation had occured more than a million times on earth alone, talk more of other dimensions. So a man was a woman just yesterday and vice versa. The goals is to get it right in balancing the two forces to into a neutral state. Do not forget that any so-called man has a good degree of whatever makes a woman one and vice versa. Imbalances occurs and you have gays and lesbians. That being said, the Mahanta manifests in a Male body due to the nature of the role. The major reason is to be able to accommodate or embody the huge amount of spiritual energy that must flow through the physical instrument. Nothing to do with superiority here. Some women are more stronger than some men physical speaking... |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 7:27am On Jun 09 |
Can a woman conceive without sexual intercourse like the story of Mary Yes. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by chieveboy(m): 7:43am On Jun 09 |
Templee333: This is morality. Morality is the law of man, for man to control man. Spiritually speaking, sex is the actual marriage (two becoming one).
Yes and no. Anything done out of pure love for God can take you to God. You experience the reverse of your mission with celibacy however if you have no love.
The funny thing about this whole thing is the guilty conscience you will generate is actually what shuts the door. I have mentioned previously that God does not hold grudges, it is the perpetrator who does that on behalf of God and the forgive themselves after prayer. Love is what opens the flow of the Holy Spirit. Lust is something to let the Holy Spirit deal with. When the spirit fills your heart, you are filled to not require seeking it via masturbation and even sex.
God (the supreme one) is not into morality. IT let it's subjects the rulers and creators of the lower worlds create all these worlds, furnish Soul with a body, furnish it with all the illusions (temptations ) and allow Soul try anything it wants and learn from the repercussions. This is an education system we are living. Smoke, prostitute, rob, worship things as God, etc and spend lifetimes reaping the rewards of these acts (often via hardships). In one life, Soul will become bored of it (sort of) and begin looking for God or answers. It's good Karma will allow it meet the Mahanta who alone has power to give soul freedom. He doesn't have to join an organization to meet the Mahanta although currently, the Mahanta the Living Eck Master runs behind one. This Mahanta is not a religious or organizational aspect of God. Everyone you meet is a subset of the Mahanta. Jesus, Mohammed, etc. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 7:46am On Jun 09 |
EVOLUTION if humans evolved from apes, is there a possibility of reversing the process till all life forms return to bacterial? Do you believe that humans are the most intelligent beings on earth? Are mosquitoes, birds, fungi, algae equally valid by God as humans are? What do you say about Neanderthals and the likes, did they really exist? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 8:17am On Jun 09 |
INITIATIONS Are initiation rites necessary? Can one who has not pass through any formal initiation get to the same level of consciousnes as those who are formaly initiated? Is it proper to initiate another individual at all, why not allow them to unfold naturaly at their own pace? Who initiated the first eck master? Are eck initiations reversible? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 8:32am On Jun 09 |
MEDICATIONS/HEALINGS Is it spiritualy OK to administer drugs or phychic healing to another person? Does that not rob them of the opportunity of fully reaping what they sow? What of administering drugs to a "mad" person? Is that not a way of interfering with another one's state of consciousness? What about subjecting an insane person to chains and forcefully druging him, is that not a way of restricting his freedom? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 9:21am On Jun 09 |
PRAYERS Eckists sing Hu and contemplate instead of asking God for things. If an arm rober robs your house,you sit down to sing hu and contemplate, along the line you begin to imagine that something painful should befall the rober,or police should get and punish him, is that not a form of prayer? Or let's say one has been rape, the victim sits to sing hu afterwards, during her contemplation, is she going to show gratitude that she's been raped? Then if she begins to imagine that the rapist should get hurt or caught and punish by the police, is she not praying? Let's say the victim is an eckist, will she forgive the rapist and move on with her life with gratitude to God for being raped? Or will she report the rapist? In the later case, it will mean that the victim didn't surender the whole thing to divine spirit. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 9:47am On Jun 09 |
MYTHS Do eckists belief that there was once a Golden Age? Or is it a fiction? Is there a posibility of humans reaching a Golden Age in the future where there's all joy and no sorrows? Since eckists have known about time travel, have anyone travel back to the golden age to see how life was? If yes, is it true that babies live with their mothers to the age of hundred? Was conditions exactly the way they are depicted today? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 10:24am On Jun 09 |
VIOLENCE/CONFLICT Can violence be justified in any circumstance? Do eckist participate in war? Is it expected of a high initiate (like that of the 9th level and above) to sue a fellow human to court for any reason? If a high initiate owns a gun for what they call "self defence", will your master encourage him to keep it? is it becoming for an eck clergy to employ police or armed security men to go around with him? How about keeping an agresive dog that can inflict harm on a fellow human to guard ur home and properties, is that a "good" choice? |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by Templee333(m): 10:51am On Jun 09 |
SUICIDE It is agreed that soul is eternal and CANNOT die. Since that is the case, why is suicide considered a crime, what if the individual simply wants to have experience of self killing? Isn't that part of his journey to God? What if a person willingly allow other people to murder him without making any attempt to defend himself even when he is physically fit to do so, do eckist condemn such? Is rescuing a person attempting suicide a positive act, or should the person be allowed to freely go through his/her choice? 1 Like |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 8:10am On Jun 11 |
@ Templee333 SUICIDE Soul was primarily sent to the lower worlds , Earth inclusive to mature spiritually. Suicide is like dropping out of school. No parent is happy when the child drops out of school because he sees ahead that the child will find it very difficult to fit into the society. Completely defeating the aim of sending him to school in the first place. Secondly suicide is like a slap in the face of God and a show of complete ingratitude for the gift of life which Soul needs to bring out its God-like qualities. This physical body is to be treasured and nurtured and experiences we go through while living in it should be accepted with a grateful heart what if the individual simply wants to have experience of self killing? Isn't that part of his journey to God? What if a person willingly allow other people to murder him without making any attempt to defend himself even when he is physically fit to do so, do eckist condemn such? If the soul just wants to have the experience of course it can because it has free will and of course the experience will teach him better. Eckists do not support suicide because of the reasons I gave above. It is always better to confront your challenges as they make you stronger.
Most people who commit suicide are actually carry out for love and support and most times when they get it they usually reverse their decision. Give love and listening ear to people you come across,you never know who you might be saving. The answer to this question in summary is to ask yourself" what will love do?" Then do it. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 8:25am On Jun 11 |
@ Templee333 VIOLENCE/CONFLICTNo Do eckist participate in war?Yes, if national duty calls for it. But done with detachment
You need to understand that the lower universe is a warring universe. With lots of immature souls who don't understand spiritual laws. In order to protect your right and property you may have to resort to courts of law which are established for that. There is no issue with that. The main thing there is that whatever action you take you do it with detachment and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit
All these questions bother on individual preference. The Master does not dictate to anyone however the person seems fit to provide physical protection for himself and his property. In ECK, you are advised to tie your camel and pray. In order words do what you can to protect your self physically and leave the rest to God. |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 8:37am On Jun 11 |
@ Templee333 MYTHS There was a golden age. It is not a fiction Is there a posibility of humans reaching a Golden Age in the future where there's all joy and no sorrows?Yes Since eckists have known about time travel, have anyone travel back to the golden age to see how life was? If yes, is it true that babies live with their mothers to the age of hundred? Was conditions exactly the way they are depicted today? Funny enough from soul point of view, there is nothing fantastic about the golden age. Spiritual growth is not as rapid as this current age . The age for accelerated spiritual growth is the Iron age or Kali Yuga age when the level of negativity and materiality is at its highest and the worship of Moloch is at Its peak. This is the age we are enjoying now and I can tell you, I am having fun. There are lots of spiritual opportunities to test how far you have come in acquiring spiritual qualities like love, contentment, tolerance, humility and detachment. In the golden age when things are easy, such opportunities are lacking. 1 Like |
| Re: My Experience With Eckankar Religion by benodic: 9:47am On Jun 11 |
@ Templee333 . I was robbed. A week before the robbery, the ECK made it known to me that my phone will be stolen and that I had to let it go due to a heavy karmic debt that I have to repay. So when the event happened I wasn't taken by surprise. I handed over my phone , went to the police to report as required by law. Did my Hu Song and in contemplation gave thanks to God for the opportunity to pay my karmic debt. Later I was shown in the dream state, the exact action I did in a past life that incurred the debt. That is the way of ECK 1 Like |
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