MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you quoted Jesus out of context!

Jesus said you should watch out for FALSE PROPHETS {Matthew 7:15} and immediately added "by their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16
So Jesus didn't say "by their wrong expectation" because that will make John the baptist and Jesus' disciples false prophets as they both had wrong expectations!

What you should be watchful of is not the mistakes faithful people made due to their expectations but whether they're WORKING OUT what is expected of Christ's true disciples! James 2:18-26

John had wrong expectations about the Christ {Matthew 11:3} and the Apostles had wrong expectations about the time the Kingdom of God will be established! Act 1:6

So you quoted Jesus out of context!

But do you agree that those apostles didn't say that God's spirit was directing them to have those understanding? So we can agree that what the Gov Body does is just studying to understand the scriptures, not that any spirit is directing the study?

tctrills:

Stop diverting, many churches have millions of members.
If we mention the top 10 churches in production of food and in charity, JW does not come close.
Ordinary Christ embassy of yesterday share more information through their tv channels and publication.
Still all that don't make up for false prophecies.

the "better performing group" master will not agree.

Sand2022:

But do you agree that those apostles didn't say that God's spirit was directing them to have those understanding? So we can agree that what the Gov Body does is just studying to understand the scriptures, not that any spirit is directing the study?

Jesus said:

But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you peace; I give you my peace. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear. John 14:26-27

According to the above quote Jesus' presence will be replaced by God's Holy Spirit because that's what God promised the Jews {Joel 2:28; Act 2:16-18}} it will be as a sign of approval only for Jews that have accepted the counsel of the Christ. Act 2:39
The HOLY SPIRIT doesn't make imperfect humans become perfect rather just as Jesus Christ was in their midst teaching them while they're making mistakes over and over again regarding what he taught them they will still continue to make the same kind of mistakes now that the one teaching them is an invisible force. So the one and only evidence that they're acting in line with what the spirit teaches them is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} that's the FRUIT Jesus talked about {Matthew 7:16-18} they're not going to become perfect in their understanding NO! NO!! NO!!! But as the LOVE permeates their gathering everywhere they are that will assure them that they are truly getting the sense of what the Holy Spirit is teaching them {John 13:34-35} because that's what Jesus supposed to achieve in the gathering of imperfect humans making the best use of his wonderful counsel as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} God is LOVE {1John 4:8} therefore God's people can't worship Him acceptably in the absence of LOVE! 1Corinthians 13:13

The only difference is that under inspiration God's Holy Spirit will PERFECTLY direct the mind of one of them to pen down words that will be recorded as part of the inspired word of God {2Timothy 3:16} but when it comes to the understanding of what the Holy Spirit inspired the writer to pen down even the one inspired still needs to sit down with other anointed brothers and pray for Jesus to come and direct them on the practical application of what they got and of course Jesus will come into their midst as an invisible mighty spirit {Matthew 18:20} he must not say a word since his own assignment has completed he must allow them to use their brains to figure out the practical application as they meditate thoroughly on what they received. So what will be the undeniable evidence that Jesus Christ is the chairman of their gathering?
Note that even when he was with them in the flesh they still make mistakes trying to grasp what he taught them, surely they will still make mistakes but then as LOVE and PEACE works out perfectly among them they can be rest assured that they're doing exactly what Jesus directed them to do. John 14:26-27

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Templee333:
the "better performing group" master will not agree.

MaxInDHouse and his team actually believe that other churches are competing with them.
In almost every metric, there are churches doing much better than JW.

MaxInDHouse:


I don't have time to waste on faithless atheists nah!

You people can continue killing one another even your so called fellow believers {Revelations 6:3-4} we know why you must kill your neighbours, just know that our own God will never ever lead His worshipers against His worshipers. So when you're going to war pray to your god to support you in killing your enemies who are also your neighbours as well as your fellow believers in your god!

I couldn't stop laughing when I read this.. whenever someone starts name calling in a discussion, it's because he has no answers to his opponent.
You point below makes no sense. God created all men. All men are the offsprings of God.
So if he led the children of Israel in war against his offsprings then you have no point.

MaxInDHouse:








All these responses to just one single post that is telling you how God spoke to JWs through His only begotten Son {Hebrews 1:1-2} that we must not hate anyone again shey? Matthew 5:43-48

But i thought you guys are CHRISTIANS as in followers of Christ o! Matthew 26:52

I give many answers because other people read these things and they need to see the truth.

The same Jesus directed Moses, Samuel, Joshua and many others to kill so clearly you don't understand Matthew 26:52

tctrills:

I couldn't stop laughing when I read this.. whenever someone starts name calling in a discussion, it's because he has no answers to his opponent.
You point below makes no sense. God created all men. All men are the offsprings of God.
So if he led the children of Israel in war against his offsprings then you have no point.

As long as God never led His worshipers against His worshipers JWs are vindicated!

tctrills:

I give many answers because other people read these things and they need to see the truth. The same Jesus directed Moses, Samuel, Joshua and many others to kill so clearly you don't understand Matthew 26:52

God's angel lead God's worshipers against those who aren't God's worshipers!

MaxInDHouse:


As long as God never led His worshipers against His worshipers JWs are vindicated!

You again are wrong. True Christians believe in the revealed word and not guesswork. The bible never said you can go to war only with people of other beliefs.
Even Israel went to war against the house of Benjamin.

I've told you that from that very hour you had a discussion with me you will forever continue to come back for more because i've injected in your veins the truth and since you're not a friend of truth you will not have a rest of mind afterwards.

I thought you promised never to quote me again,shey?
Do you see me coming to your threads?

Ọmọ WISDOM doesn't need running after foolishness it's you that will forever continue to come after me and be rest assured that you will be beaten intelligently even if you come a million times because victory of this kind belongs to Jehovah's Witnesses as in it's our HERITAGE! Isaiah 54:1

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


God's angel lead God's worshipers against those who aren't God's worshipers!

Please where to you read that in the bible. You guys should write your own bible. Again so you believe JW members should only fight non JW.
Lol

tctrills:

You again are wrong. True Christians believe in the revealed word and not guesswork. The bible never said you can go to war only with people of other beliefs.
Even Israel went to war against the house of Benjamin.

And who did God support?
Or you want to omit that side?
Perhaps you don't need God to support you in winning the war.
So how do you convince God to support you in killing your enemies now that His only begotten Son {Hebrews 1:1-2} has declared that we must love our enemies? Matthew 5:43-48

tctrills:

Please where to you read that in the bible. You guys should write your own bible. Again so you believe JW members should only fight non JW.
Lol

YES! YES!! YES!!! But it's not a war against flesh and blood {Ephesians 6:12} so we don't use physical weapons rather we use the Bible! Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12

MaxInDHouse:


And who did God support?
Or you want to omit that side?
Perhaps you don't need God to support you in winning the war.
So how do you convince God to support you in killing your enemies now that His only begotten Son {Hebrews 1:1-2} has declared that we must love our enemies! Matthew 5:43-48

Oh good at least now you know that God allowed his Children to go to war against each other.
Yes you need God's support. The allied powers needed God's support to defeat Hitler. So you are right about God's support.

tctrills:

Oh good at least now you know that God allowed his Children to go to war against each other.
Yes you need God's support. The allied powers needed God's support to defeat Hitler. So you are right about God's support.

God supported which side when Israel went to war against Benjamin?

MaxInDHouse:

YES! YES!! YES!!! But it's not a war against flesh and blood {Ephesians 6:12} so we don't use physical weapons rather we use the Bible! Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12

Again please show to the world any verse where God ban the war against flesh and blood. Do you guys even believe in the bible or just in your doctrines?

tctrills:

Again please show to the world any verse where God ban the war against flesh and blood. Do you guys even believe in the bible or just in your doctrines?

Abeg tell everyone what God's word meant in those quotes from Jesus of Nazareth and Paul?
Àbí nah JWs put am inside your Bible?

MaxInDHouse:


God supported which side when Israel went to war against Benjamin?

I should be asking you. You are the one that brought up God supporting a side. So let me ask you, who did God support?

tctrills:

I should be asking you. You are the one that brought up God supporting a side. So let me ask you, who did God support?

Go back and reread the story you will know that God spoke to one side and warned them not to completely annihilate the other side!

MaxInDHouse:


Abeg tell everyone what God's word meant in those quotes from Jesus of Nazareth and Paul?
Àbí nah JWs put am inside your Bible?

Which quote? Please tell everyone why God led Samuel to kill with the sword.
You really need to start reading your scripture.
If Samuel was justified to kill with the sword then it's clear you don't understand the word of God.

MaxInDHouse:


Go back and reread the story you will know that God spoke to one side and warned them not to completely annihilate the other side!

The same way the allied forces did not annihilate Germany. Still this shows that God allows war between his children.

tctrills:

Which quote? Please tell everyone why God led Samuel to kill with the sword.
You really need to start reading your scripture.
If Samuel was justified to kill with the sword then it's clear you don't understand the word of God.

OLÓDO!

Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the of things! Hebrews 1:1-2

God's Son told JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES:

“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:43-48

tctrills:

The same way the allied forces did not annihilate Germany. Still this shows that God allows war between his children.

And afterwards they stopped warring against themselves shey?

MaxInDHouse:


OLÓDO!

Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the of things! Hebrews 1:1-2

God's Son told JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES:

“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:43-48

Professor, God is the same yesterday, today and forever. If killing with the sword was bad in the time of Christ, it was also bad in the time of the prophets. You should know this.
The old testament did not command you to love your neighbors and hate your enemies.

MaxInDHouse:


And afterwards they stopped warring against themselves shey?

All wars have an end.

tctrills:

Professor, God is the same yesterday, today and forever. If killing with the sword was bad in the time of Christ, it was also bad in the time of the prophets. You should know this.

Are you using God's word or you're telling us what God's word supposed to say?

Jesus was clear enough:

You have heard that you must hate your enemies (so as to kill them) buy i am telling you now that you must love your enemies!

Ọmọ bow to divine WISDOM from God's only begotten Son otherwise your destruction is on the way! Luke 19:27

tctrills:

All wars have an end.

YES. Except Russia and Ukraine!

MaxInDHouse:


Are you using God's word or you're telling us what God's word supposed to say?

Jesus was clear enough:

You have heard that you must hate your enemies (so as to kill them) buy i am telling you now that you must love your enemies!

Ọmọ bow to divine WISDOM from God's only begotten Son otherwise your destruction is on the way! Luke 19:27

Oga, the old testament did not teach love your neighbors and hate your enemies.
Jesus did not say it was the teaching from the old testament. He said you have heard love your neighbors and hate your enemies

Please calm down to read your bible.

MaxInDHouse:

YES. Except Russia and Ukraine!

You believe Russia and Ukraine would never end? Is that another JW prophecy?

MaxInDHouse:


Are you using God's word or you're telling us what God's word supposed to say?

Jesus was clear enough:

You have heard that you must hate your enemies (so as to kill them) buy i am telling you now that you must love your enemies!

Ọmọ bow to divine WISDOM from God's only begotten Son otherwise your destruction is on the way! Luke 19:27

Wait do JW believe that God commanded Israel to hate their enemies?

tctrills:

Oga, the old testament did not teach love your neighbors and hate your enemies.
Jesus did not say it was the teaching from the old testament. He said you have heard love your neighbors and hate your enemies

Please calm down to read your bible.

Exodus 17:16

tctrills:

Wait do JW believe that God commanded Israel to hate their enemies?

Exodus 17:16