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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:32am On Nov 14, 2022
I have worked in almost all those organization.
The data come from Nigeria gov.
Nobody has the time or the mandate to dispute such data.
Whatever Nigeria says - UN/IMF/WB - will take it - otherwise it would cause diplomatic row.
Of course if you're investor or lender you have to be extremely careful with such data.
Nobody believe anything from a Nigeria - you or your gov.
Your have zero credibility.
It's just for the laughs.

That is why your budget is kenya size and you can only borrow kenya size -

South Africa has borrowed 300B dollars...because everyone know their economy is REAL.

We exported aircraft to spain : ) smiley

We exported ships to Namibnia smiley

Go on - we have 65B dollar manufacturing smiley

We beat Russia, Canada, Brazil, Australia, Indonesia in Agricluture.

GO ON.

We are the giant of Africa.

We are the Yahoo boys with billions of money Sani Abacha window has and we need you banking details to transfer.

What you do is CROSS_REFERENCE/CROSS_ CHECK.

You got to Spain or Namibia and ask if they imported anything from Nigeria - leave alone Aircraft parts & ships - and they will say hell NO


68816419:

Who the Bleep are you to dispute these numbers when they can all be found in various sources like the Worldbank, UN, AU, IMF, NBS, and International Standard Industrial Classification (ISIC)?.
Accept that no one is interested in Kenya when it comes to manufacturing, agriculture, and entertainment in Africa and move on.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ranking/manufacturing-output
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 1:42am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
We can go sector by sector.

Cement - Kenya produces about 10M - Nigeria produces about 21-26M metric tonnes. Last I checked it was 21M - but I have seen recently something like 26M. I would go with 24m considering how dodgy data from Nigeria normally is. I would go by what Dangote, BUA and laftrage sells.

That is twice.

Give me your fertilizer production.

Give and Take - as I retire to bed - your manufacturing is 2 or 2.5 times Kenya. And this is true for almost everything - BANKIN, TELCOM. ALL SECTORS. Your real economy is 2 or 2.5 times bigger than Kenya. It about 200-250B dollars


Manufacturing that would roughly be about 20B dollars.

About half or less than half of South Africa...who are at 40-50B. I would never doubt South Africa figures - use such as gold standard to cross-check your nonsense from your gov.

THAT IS PLAUSIBLE. Anything that say you manufactur aircraft and ships to export to SPAIN - use common sense. DONT even THINK.

DONT BELIEVE FAKE STATS BY YOUR FAKE GOV.


as of 2019 Local production of cement was over 40 million MT and Nigeria's fertilizer production is five times more than Kenya's productions, and I must also remind you that all three of largest fertilizer plants in Africa —Dangote, Indorama, and BUA—are all in Nigeria
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 1:43am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
I have worked in almost all those organization.
The data come from Nigeria gov.
Nobody has the time or the mandate to dispute such data.
Whatever Nigeria says - UN/IMF/WB - will take it - otherwise it would cause diplomatic row.
Of course if you're investor or lender you have to be extremely careful with such data.
Nobody believe anything from a Nigeria - you or your gov.
Your have zero credibility.
It's just for the laughs.

That is why your budget is kenya size and you can only borrow kenya size -

South Africa has borrowed 300B dollars...because everyone know their economy is REAL.

We exported aircraft to spain : ) smiley

We exported ships to Namibnia smiley

Go on - we have 65B dollar manufacturing smiley

We beat Russia, Canada, Brazil, Australia, Indonesia in Agricluture.

GO ON.

We are the giant of Africa.

We are the Yahoo boys with billions of money Sani Abacha window has and we need you banking details to transfer.

What you do is CROSS_REFERENCE/CROSS_ CHECK.

You got to Spain or Namibia and ask if they imported anything from Nigeria - leave alone Aircraft parts & ships - and they will say hell NO


Pained grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:43am On Nov 14, 2022
Installed capacity versus production.
Dont be like Ghanian cousin mad cow.

68816419:

as of 2019 Local production of cement was over 40 million MT and Nigeria's fertilizer production is five times more than Kenya's productions, and I must also remind you that all three of largest fertilizer plants in Africa —Dangote, Indorama, and BUA—are all in Nigeria
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 1:44am On Nov 14, 2022
Why would I be pained. You should be pained. Your own gov is lying to you. I dont belive it. Nobody belive it. You believe it. For me its like the Yahoo boys email I used to get. You just delete and block.
68816419:

Pained grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:01am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Installed capacity versus production.
Dont be like Ghanian cousin mad cow.

U mean to say , Oil Refining; Cement; Food, Beverages and Tobacco; Textile, Apparel, and Footwear; Wood and Wood products; Pulp Paper and Paper products; Chemical and Pharmaceutical products, Cars production, Cements, fertilizers, ship productions, Aluminum ...... for a population of over 200 Millions mouths are fake?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 2:16am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
I have worked in almost all those organization.
The data come from Nigeria gov.
Nobody has the time or the mandate to dispute such data.
Whatever Nigeria says - UN/IMF/WB - will take it - otherwise it would cause diplomatic row.
Of course if you're investor or lender you have to be extremely careful with such data.
Nobody believe anything from a Nigeria - you or your gov.
Your have zero credibility.
It's just for the laughs.

That is why your budget is kenya size and you can only borrow kenya size -

South Africa has borrowed 300B dollars...because everyone know their economy is REAL.

We exported aircraft to spain : ) smiley

We exported ships to Namibnia smiley

Go on - we have 65B dollar manufacturing smiley

We beat Russia, Canada, Brazil, Australia, Indonesia in Agricluture.

GO ON.

We are the giant of Africa.

We are the Yahoo boys with billions of money Sani Abacha window has and we need you banking details to transfer.

What you do is CROSS_REFERENCE/CROSS_ CHECK.

You got to Spain or Namibia and ask if they imported anything from Nigeria - leave alone Aircraft parts & ships - and they will say hell NO

@bolded:
India, one of the most populous and productive nations in the world, has a budget of US$400 billion, yet Canada, which has a lesser population with smaller economy has a budget of US$430.13 billion, which is more than India. How would you elucidate that?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:18am On Nov 14, 2022
Did you include all the India states budget?
India at 3.5 trillion GDP
I expect India total budget to be somewhere close a trillion all states included.
For example, the biggest state budget Uttar Pradesh - is somewhere 70B dollars. That is already twice bigger than poor Nigeria.
68816419:

@bolded:
India, one of the most populous and productive nations in the world, has a budget of US$400 billion, yet Canada, which has a lesser population with smaller economy has a budget of US$430.13 billion, which is more than India. How would you elucidate that?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:19am On Nov 14, 2022
68816419:

@bolded:
India, one of the most populous and productive nations in the world, has a budget of US$400 billion, yet Canada, which has a lesser population with smaller economy has a budget of US$430.13 billion, which is more than India. How would you elucidate that?
Ditto, and India's budget has only been increasing because they have began to formalize. When they were very informal in those days, they still had big economy and manufacturing but way lower revenue streams for the Government.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:25am On Nov 14, 2022
Lame excuse.
Nigeria is off chart compared to even most informal economy like Burundi or Niger or CAR or SOMALI.
That is because GDP is overcooked/overstimated.
It completely an outlier....
There is nothing more formal than 65B dollars' worth of manufacturing.
That should guarantee lots of taxes - maybe 15-20B dollars.


India state budgets is 625B dollars.
India federal budget is 400B dollars.
Total budget 1 trillion dollars
GDP is about 3.5 trillion dollars

GeneralDae:

Ditto, and India's budget has only been increasing because they have began to formalize. When they were very informal in those days, they still had big economy and manufacturing but way lower revenue streams for the Government.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:34am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Lame excuse.
Nigeria is off chart compared to even most informal economy like Burundi or Niger or CAR or SOMALI.
That is because GDP is overcooked/overstimated.
It completely an outlier....
There is nothing more formal than 65B dollars' worth of manufacturing.
That should guarantee lots of taxes - maybe 15-20B dollars.


India state budgets is 625B dollars.
India federal budget is 400B dollars.
Total budget 1 trillion dollars
GDP is about 3.5 trillion dollars

Why is your manufacturing output just 7 Billion dollars?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:49am On Nov 14, 2022
GeneralDae:

Why is your manufacturing output just 7 Billion dollars?
question for the gods
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:50am On Nov 14, 2022
Kenya. Industrial manufacturing is relatively strong
in Kenya compared to countries at similar levels of
economic development. Growing by an average
of 4 percent per year over the past decade, it
now accounts for nearly 20 percent of economic
activity and provides 12.5 percent of all formal jobs
in the economy, about 280,000 jobs. The most
striking growth in production rates has occurred in
dairy, chemicals, and fabricated metals production,
all of which expanded by more than 50 percent
between 2010 and 2013.77 Other notable sectors
include textiles, pharmaceuticals, furniture, leather
goods, and motor vehicles, for which Kenya is
the prime supplier to the rapidly urbanizing East
African market.78
Investors in Kenyan manufacturing have already
benefited from SEZs, where downtime caused
by electricity and other power interruptions are
significantly less frequent than in other areas of
the country. Almost 20 percent of all manufacturing jobs are located in Export Processing Zones


GeneralDae:

Why is your manufacturing output just 7 Billion dollars?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:53am On Nov 14, 2022
Sleepy Buhari then Tinubu wont be able to catch up

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:14am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Kenya. Industrial manufacturing is relatively strong
in Kenya compared to countries at similar levels of
economic development. Growing by an average
of 4 percent per year over the past decade, it
now accounts for nearly 20 percent of economic
activity and provides 12.5 percent of all formal jobs
in the economy, about 280,000 jobs. The most
striking growth in production rates has occurred in
dairy, chemicals, and fabricated metals production,
all of which expanded by more than 50 percent
between 2010 and 2013.77 Other notable sectors
include textiles, pharmaceuticals, furniture, leather
goods, and motor vehicles, for which Kenya is
the prime supplier to the rapidly urbanizing East
African market.78
Investors in Kenyan manufacturing have already
benefited from SEZs, where downtime caused
by electricity and other power interruptions are
significantly less frequent than in other areas of
the country. Almost 20 percent of all manufacturing jobs are located in Export Processing Zones


Your manufacturing output is 7% of GDP at 7.9 Billion dollars.

https://tradingeconomics.com/kenya/manufacturing-value-added-percent-of-gdp-wb-data.html
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:22am On Nov 14, 2022
I dont see it being a big deal - 8B dollars at our level of development

We cant compare ourselves to phoney fake west african bonobo manufacturing.

South Africa
South Africa Manufacturing Output - Historical Data
Year Billions of US $ % of GDP
2021 $49.15B 11.70%
2020 $39.39B 11.74%
2019 $47.82B 12.33%
2018 $50.31B 12.43%
2017 $47.73B 12.51%
2016 $40.40B 12.48%
2015 $43.40B 12.52%
2014 $47.58B 12.48%
2013 $49.58B 12.37%
2012 $54.22B 12.48%
2011 $58.93B 12.86%
2010 $57.85B 13.86%

GeneralDae:

Your manufacturing output is 7% of GDP at 7.9 Billion dollars.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:16am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Bonobo you can claim anything. You claim to export aircraft, ships, voodoo, witchraft.
South Africa manufacturing is 40-50B dollars
And they manufacture and export lots of stuff.
Your whole GDP is fake.
We have gone through the Agri sector - where you claim to beat Brazil, Indonesia, and are just behind India, China and USA.

GDP is just a figure you guess - you can claim to be the giant.

But reality you're very poor.


Lmao as if that’s a possibility.

Any country can just wake up one day and claim they have the biggest GDP in the world grin

You’re a dunce bro.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:24am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
I have worked in almost all those organization.
The data come from Nigeria gov.
Nobody has the time or the mandate to dispute such data.
Whatever Nigeria says - UN/IMF/WB - will take it - otherwise it would cause diplomatic row.
Of course if you're investor or lender you have to be extremely careful with such data.
Nobody believe anything from a Nigeria - you or your gov.
Your have zero credibility.
It's just for the laughs.

That is why your budget is kenya size and you can only borrow kenya size -

South Africa has borrowed 300B dollars...because everyone know their economy is REAL.

We exported aircraft to spain : ) smiley

We exported ships to Namibnia smiley

Go on - we have 65B dollar manufacturing smiley

We beat Russia, Canada, Brazil, Australia, Indonesia in Agricluture.

GO ON.

We are the giant of Africa.

We are the Yahoo boys with billions of money Sani Abacha window has and we need you banking details to transfer.

What you do is CROSS_REFERENCE/CROSS_ CHECK.

You got to Spain or Namibia and ask if they imported anything from Nigeria - leave alone Aircraft parts & ships - and they will say hell NO



But the Namibian said they imported 789 vessels in 2021 from nigeria.

Or did the Nigerian government bribe Namibia to falsify data grin

Nigeria must be a really powerful country grin, bribing countries up and down to falsify data for us.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:28am On Nov 14, 2022
GeneralDae:

Why is your manufacturing output just 7 Billion dollars?

So pitiful.

Even Ghana trounce their manufacturing sector.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:29am On Nov 14, 2022
Where is evidence from Namibia that they imported 700 vessels: You Nigerians are nuts; Your gov is nuts
Shaytun:


But the Namibian said they imported 789 vessels in 2021 from nigeria.

Or did the Nigerian government bribe Namibia to falsify data grin

Nigeria must be a really powerful country grin, bribing countries up and down to falsify data for us.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:31am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
I dont see it being a big deal - 8B dollars at our level of development

We cant compare ourselves to phoney fake west african bonobo manufacturing.

South Africa
South Africa Manufacturing Output - Historical Data
Year Billions of US $ % of GDP
2021 $49.15B 11.70%
2020 $39.39B 11.74%
2019 $47.82B 12.33%
2018 $50.31B 12.43%
2017 $47.73B 12.51%
2016 $40.40B 12.48%
2015 $43.40B 12.52%
2014 $47.58B 12.48%
2013 $49.58B 12.37%
2012 $54.22B 12.48%
2011 $58.93B 12.86%
2010 $57.85B 13.86%


Post for Kenya I want to see something grin

Your manufacturing sector is less than that of Ghana.

Or did the Ghana Government falsify data too grin

From this day henceforth, you keep quiet when we discuss industrialization in africa, Kenya is a small fry.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:32am On Nov 14, 2022
Many communist nations used to do that;
But like Russia or USSR; soon their lie is exposed.
You're lying to yourself.
No investor worth their salt will trust your data
VW trusted it; set up a plant; sold 32 cars smiley
In Rwanda they sold about 500 cars.
Shaytun:


Lmao as if that’s a possibility.

Any country can just wake up one day and claim they have the biggest GDP in the world grin

You’re a dunce bro.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:32am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Where is evidence from Namibia that they imported 700 vessels: You Nigerians are nuts; Your gov is nuts

Bro is really in pain.

But facts and figures don’t care about your feeling .

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:32am On Nov 14, 2022
Of course they falsified because they import almost everything. That is why their cedis is now dancing in it's own funeral Ghana style.
Shaytun:


Post for Kenya I want to see something grin

Your manufacturing sector is less than that of Ghana.

Or did the Ghana Government falsify data too grin

From this day henceforth, you keep quiet when we discuss industrialization in africa, Kenya is a small fry.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:33am On Nov 14, 2022
Source of data.
Shaytun:


Bro is really in pain.

But facts and figures don’t care about your feeling .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:34am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Many communist nations used to do that;
But like Russia or USSR; soon their lie is exposed.
You're lying to yourself.
No investor worth their salt will trust your data
VW trusted it; set up a plant; sold 32 cars smiley
In Rwanda they sold about 500 cars.

Lmao.

Except we have been receiving one of the highest FDI in Africa for about 7 years now.

So investors are actually trusting the data grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 10:36am On Nov 14, 2022
Outside oil n gas - smiley - maybe fintech - it would take a crazy investor to do that.
Shaytun:


Lmao.

Except we have been receiving one of the highest FDI in Africa for about 7 years now.

So investors are actually trusting the data grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:44am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Of course they falsified because they import almost everything. That is why their cedis is now dancing in it's own funeral Ghana style.
you really hate facts

Yet when both countries import data is pulled everyone will wonder why you have a 22 billion dollars import bill when that of Ghana is a tiny 11 billion dollars.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:44am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Source of data.
source of data is WB ... Go and sleep

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:46am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Outside oil n gas - smiley - maybe fintech - it would take a crazy investor to do that.
and investor will more likely put money into a manufacturing venture in Nigeria, Ghana , Ivory Coast and even Togo than to put it in kenya.

Because the investor is more likely to make money in all these countries than in Kenya

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 10:48am On Nov 14, 2022
Just40:
so this is what you call SGR in Kenya?

Pure joke grin grin
Can you trace the difference?

Kenya's worst train station vs ghana best train station. cool

If you have another one, post it. If you don't have one, keep making noise.

Your best station is in the middle of a busy town; congested, ugly, and low standard. while our worst is in the middle of a jungle, no one goes there.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shaytun: 10:48am On Nov 14, 2022
rvp20182:
Outside oil n gas - smiley - maybe fintech - it would take a crazy investor to do that.
Nope.

This is for the second quarter of 2022.

Disaggregated by sectors, capital importation into banking had the highest inflow of $646.36 million, accounting for 42.10 percent of the total capital import. Capital imported into the production sector was next at $233.99 million (15.24 percent), and the financing sector followed with $197.31 million (12.85 percent).

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