Ekpekus:

Shey you know say even the desert (Libya) route people use in entering Europe,they pay alot of money and still aduro nor sure when dem eneter Europe.
Guy you need do more research on this things.

How many still do it. How many have to be rescued and brought home. These US own been going on for decades and no one ever begs to return home. Infact if deported their sole life's mission would be how to return

PoliteActivist:


As soon as you obtain a valid ID no record is almost as good as good record.
Do your research. In some places illegals can get drivers license, open bank accounts, and even vote

Living illegally abroad is hell. No even reason am

sukkot:
well i am a diagnostic cardiologist and electrophysiologist. i also dabble in astrology and metaphysics

Did you work 10years in the US as a cardiologist? Or let me even say did you work as a cardiologist in the US for just 2 years and u still hold the opinion that taking 40kUSD(about 30million Naira) to return home is better. Or there's another reason u will take that money to return home

Johnrake69:


Living illegally abroad is hell. No even reason am

DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE!!!
Some places want you and legalization is a formality

PoliteActivist:
Abroad people: will you relocate back home if given $40k?

Home guys: $40k to stay in Naija OR $1k to enter any country of your choice without papers. Pick one

See people writing rubbish. There loaded of people in Uk who don’t even earn up to $20,000 per annum. And this is for real

tunapawizzy:

Did you work 10years in the US as a cardiologist? Or let me even say did you work as a cardiologist in the US for just 2 years and u still hold the opinion that taking 40kUSD(about 30million Naira) to return home is better. Or there's another reason u will take that money to return home

nah the usa is where i got my degree. but yes i worked for a shortwhile but most of my work as a cardiologist was in the uk as a contract worker for a private medical insurance company. i forget the name now. hold on let me go look at my documents

tunapawizzy:

Did you work 10years in the US as a cardiologist? Or let me even say did you work as a cardiologist in the US for just 2 years and u still hold the opinion that taking 40kUSD(about 30million Naira) to return home is better. Or there's another reason u will take that money to return home

oh yeah the company i worked for is called BMI Healthcare as a contractor. its like a medical insurance company

pimplucious:


See people writing rubbish. There loaded of people in Uk who don’t even earn up to $20,000 per annum. And this is for real

But you don't have to go to UK.
You can go ANYWHERE in the world

OdefaGirl:



Then you are not being factual, I doubt you have lived abroad as you claimed because it's all about general safety and not only that of you and your family suggests safety in Nigeria.
You think living within your estate makes you safe? What about the kids' schools....the church, where you go to socialize..... business trips and so on, will you guarantee your so called safety in Nigeria?

thank you so much. they have a deluded understanding of security. In addition to what you mentioned, some think it is when you have police and soldiers surrounding day and night is when you have good security

ZINNYBANKS:

Once I gain stand there what will stop me from bringing them in ? Sha try dey use ur head dey reason beyond money . there are many beautiful and amazing things aside money O . I know wan know how old you are all your life e sure me say you never see 1 week electricity straight. You kon dey yab horseshit no vex me this afternoon o lol ..

Once you gain stand there how long e wan take you to gain stand and relocate at least 20 people

Beautiful and amazing things that I can’t do here if I have my money? Abeg o I never see 1 week straight electricity o. Come help my life. Come take me to the abroad.

PoliteActivist:
Abroad people: will you relocate back home if given $40k?

Home guys: $40k to stay in Naija OR $1k to enter any country of your choice without papers. Pick one

As home guy , $40k to stay naija for now will be ok . The money will invested in my business and I don't need to knacking here and there looking for documents for PR. I can be going a week conference, 2 weeks holiday when my business boom. Abroad no easy bro , except there is a secure job waiting for me there.

PoliteActivist:


There are Nigerians in US - homeless, mentally ill, fugitives from the law, too much debt, simply tired - who'd happily accept a fresh start in Nigeria

Since we’re not talking about criminals and mentally ill persons. Those will accept any deal. No sane able body Nigeria would leave the US for $10k. You better come with something worth it. Even if he’s homeless, so far he’s not sick in the head, he won’t accept that. He knows there’s better life ahead. US is not Europe. Things always get better for anyone that’s determined

ratiken:


Then how is that something to gloat about?

So anybody who does not live within your gated estate and the square mile radius should go to hell?

How exactly your experience similar to that of the average Nigerian?

And if you truly live such a restricted life for safety and security…… then there lies your answer about Nigeria

l. like your constructive points, you make alot of sense, Nigeria na Headquarters of misfortune and sorrows

sukkot:
you are talking rubbish. there are millios of stranded africans and nigerians who if you offer 40k dollars today they will return to their coutry. heck there are millions of legal nigerians in the uk who have worked for 30 years but cant save due to bills and have less than 5000 pounds in their account - all those people will gladly take the 40,000 dollars and return home. you are here saying someone with just 1k and illegal is far better off ? you are delusional bro. very delusional. especially todays europe that has economic problems . you are very delusional. even people that enter europe legally with 10,000 dollars struggle to find their feet talkless of someone illegal with just 1k

you are right , it's not easy in Europe now but don't you think you can make your point without insulting or abusing anyone.This is one of the reasons I don't commenting in this forum. I hate insult.

equity1:
you are right , it's not easy in Europe now but don't you think you can make your point without insulting or abusing anyone.This is one of the reasons I don't commenting in this forum. I hate insult.

lol i was frustrated with the OP. and i apologise to you politeactivist for being rude

So, I can safely infer that you work for NHS. We all know NHS does not pay but you will have an okay pension and job security. Even civil service pay more than NHS and has better pension.

I just googled your job and saw that it does not pay much and it is niche. That explains your generalisation.

Edited: Just saw that you worked as a contractor. Was your employer also paying peanuts?

sukkot:
well i am a diagnostic cardiologist and electrophysiologist. i also dabble in astrology and metaphysics

dupyshoo:
So, I can safely infer that you work for NHS. We all know NHS does not pay but you will have an okay pension and job security. Even civil service pay more than NHS and has better pension.

I just googled your job and saw that it does not pay much and it is niche. That explains your generalisation.

i said i was a contractor. my job is not listed. i work as an independent contractor to BMI Healthcare. get your facts straight. we negotiate our pay

PoliteActivist:


I don't think so. I KNOW so. The richest Nigerians have more than $40k, so they can put certain things in place plus can travel as they wish. Still, they have to worry about being kidnapped, etc

Poor mentality. No enterprising spirit.

Just saw where you mentioned that you were a contractor. So was your employer paying you less than £50k annual salary?

sukkot:
i said i was a contractor. my job is not listed. i work as an independent contractor to BMI Healthcare. get your facts straight. we negotiate our pay

Relocate back for $40k what kind of rough play is that?

sukkot:
you see the two bolded ? do you see how you are confusing yasef bro ? so there are many in the uk as you said who would be happy to return home with just 10k dollars but in same breath you are saying someone collecting the 40 thousand dollars to remain in naija is a wrong move ? you aint making sense right now bro. why not cut the suffering of entering the uk and then suffering to the point where all you need to return is 10k dollars, why not just get the shortcut and collect 4 times that amount without even stepping into the suffering land ? just collect the 40k dollars and stay

You smart dude.

ttoyetade:


thank you so much. they have a deluded understanding of security. In addition to what you mentioned, some think it is when you have police and soldiers surrounding day and night is when you have good security

I don't know if they don't see what's happening even to the Elites who surrounded themselves with security personnels.

dupyshoo:
Just saw where you mentioned that you were a contractor. So was your employer paying you less than £50k annual salary?

thats not the point the point is
1--- uk pays low wages
2--if you earn over 50k you are on a higher tax bracket where they almost take half your salary in taxes. so it matters not how much you earn because the tax system will level everybody out to the same low amount of take home. its a system

PoliteActivist:


Don't know about that. If you trace the sources of all monies you receive, you won't accept lots of money

This particular one could have put me in trouble because I prayed, and seeked for cousels as regards the agreements to be filled and signed

zedegit:


You smart dude.

thanks bro

sukkot:
you packge your life how you want it. nowhere in life is safe. when i lived in london several nigerian children got stabbed to death by gangs , a most notable case being damilola taylor in peckham. when i lived in chicago a ghanaian guy got gunned down outside wilson train station on broadway which was a few blocks from my house. nowhere is safe

You can even mention them.... which means it's not a usual occurrence. Insecurity in Nigeria has gotten to a point that it's being normalized, don't you get the difference?

OdefaGirl:


You can even mention them.... which means it's not a usual occurrence. Insecurity in Nigeria has gotten to a point that it's being normalized, don't you get the difference?

i can mention them because they were near my house

$400k $500k and above ought to be the deal.

Wishing everyone the best in there various endeavors.

You just avoided my question.

So you were not part of the 0.000001% (not sure of the number of zeros).

And I still maintain that if you are here legally and on a route to citizenship, you are hardworking, happy to retrain, if necessary, you will do well for yourself, notwithstanding the high tax.

The high tax is the reason why unenployed people are not robbing and kidnapping us.

sukkot:
thats not the point the point is
1--- uk pays low wages
2--if you earn over 50k you are on a higher tax bracket where they almost take half your salary in taxes. so it matters not how much you earn because the tax system will level everybody out to the same low amount of take home. its a system

dupyshoo:
You just avoided my question.

So you were not part of the 0.000001% (not sure of the number of zeros).

And I still maintain that if you are here legally and on a route to citizenship, you are hardworking, happy to retrain, if necessary, you will do well for yourself, notwithstanding the high tax.

The high tax is the reason why unenployed people are not robbing and kidnapping us.

your question is irrelevant. the tax system brings everybody to almost the same take home pay

PoliteActivist:
Abroad people: will you relocate back home if given $40k?

Home guys: $40k to stay in Naija OR $1k to enter any country of your choice without papers. Pick one

People living outside Nigeria do so for many reasons and not because of money only. Better lifestyle. Stability. Free education for children. Access to quality passport or citizenship that provides greater opportunity in future.
And $40k is not a big deal in the US. That’s what you can earn in 6-8mths.

$40k converted to NGN only makes you appear privileged, but you will still endure the generators and area boys and bad roads and insecurity and substandard lifestyle and over priced lousy education and so many other nonsense.