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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:33pm On Nov 26, 2022
peterincredible:

No he is not mad

You don't understand him because u still think that man itself is a physical being that has spirit
But he sees himself as God(soul) in the physical aviater body(flesh) experiencing what it means to be human understand the flow first (soul) first then the flesh not the flesh that have a soul

Guy calm down small an learn to always be on ure best behaviour gracias

I remember! You are still sonmvayina using another Monika.

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by peterincredible: 3:34pm On Nov 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


You don wake up...

One soul at a time..
Bros people are waking up and I know with years to come more people will wake up and realise that we are literally one and learn to love one another and the universe we are in and kick out tribalism, ethnicity,racism and religion out through the window of the cosmos gracias

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 3:35pm On Nov 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


I remember! You are still sonmvayina using another Monika.

Lol..that's not me..

Answer my question or do you subscribe to his idea..?
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by peterincredible: 3:38pm On Nov 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


I remember! You are still sonmvayina using another Monika.
Bros I Laff u please check my profile well I don't have tyme for silly games abeg

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Jamesbiodun(m): 3:47pm On Nov 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Who told you that The Creator must be created?

Like mannequin that thinks because he is made of plastic it's creator must be made of plastic. What a fool.
Your parent must be crying everyday to have a fo*olish child like you...
You just type without reasoning

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:49pm On Nov 26, 2022
peterincredible:
Bros I Laff u please check my profile well I don't have tyme for silly games abeg

I like games. So let me patronise you since it has actually been long and I do not fully remember you. Hopefully, you would are normal and reasonable and not fly off insanely like your brother in idea, Sonmva.

So, back to your post

"u still think that man itself is a physical being that has spirit
But he sees himself as God(soul) in the physical aviater body(flesh) experiencing what it means to be human understand the flow first (soul) first then the flesh not the flesh that have a soul"

Are you saying that man is, God is experiencing what it means to be human? Oya explain.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:04pm On Nov 26, 2022
Jamesbiodun:

Your parent must be crying everyday to have a fo*olish child like you...
You just type without reasoning

Confessing your disgrace ain't you? grin

Come to think of it, why does it pain so much when a fool is called a fool? grin

Back to the matter, just say that you did not real eyes that you asked about "creating" because of you know what creating is, just like this mannequin, if you had given it life to live like you (as you are trying to now give to robots) would know plastic, since you have given it the ability to know and identify things in its world.

But, without directly meeting you, it would not know that there is another thing in existence called "skin".

So, you are doing the same thing your mannequin will do to you, if you made it to live and do "like you".

And this is a very simple and easy reasoning you could have done for yourself. So I definitely understand why your parents regretted having you.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by justicechichex: 5:12pm On Nov 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

Just completing your line of reasoning.
Sure i agree with u 100%
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 5:14pm On Nov 26, 2022
Jamesbiodun:

Your parent must be crying everyday to have a fo*olish child like you...
You just type without reasoning

No be me talk this one ...

Dtruthspeaker..

People are actually noticing..
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 5:26pm On Nov 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


I like games. So let me patronise you since it has actually been long and I do not fully remember you. Hopefully, you would are normal and reasonable and not fly off insanely like your brother in idea, Sonmva.

So, back to your post

"u still think that man itself is a physical being that has spirit
But he sees himself as God(soul) in the physical aviater body(flesh) experiencing what it means to be human understand the flow first (soul) first then the flesh not the flesh that have a soul"

Are you saying that man is, God is experiencing what it means to be human? Oya explain.

God said "let us make man in our image after our likeness..let them have dominion
.......

And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul...

That breath of life (God's spirit) is the same image and likeness as god...the body is the same image and likeness as the earth..

The main idea is that it is God's spirit that dwells in the body experiencing human life. When death comes, the spirit departs the body and goes to God and the body is buried to become one with the earth....like rain water that becomes dirty when it falls to the earth. Man is therefore imperfect by design. But the spirit is pure and does not need saving from anything.....it is God's spirit, but as soon as it enters the mud, it becomes dirty....thats why God can never be a man...


If you study the Igbo creation myth..it is more enriching , it goes further to say God used sticks for the bones, etc.
But all the same, the elements are the same...

I will be ready to entertain a follow up question
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:15pm On Nov 26, 2022
Somyvina with his nonsense
I wonder how he reasons
He'll just say things that do not even make sense to him but he wants us to accept it
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 7:22pm On Nov 26, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Somyvina with his nonsense
I wonder how he reasons
He'll just say things that do not even make sense to him but he wants us to accept it

Which one does not make sense...

Let me explain/ teach you again.

Which part do you not understand?

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:36pm On Nov 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


Which one does not make sense...

Let me explain/ teach you again.

Which part do you not understand?

Abeg go and sit down
Your teachings will even confuse all the Jews
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 8:08pm On Nov 26, 2022
Aemmyjah:


Abeg go and sit down
Your teachings will even confuse all the Jews

Show me my error...

You have not done anything..

Show me my mistake so I won't make it again..
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20pm On Nov 26, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Somyvina with his nonsense
I wonder how he reasons
He'll just say things that do not even make sense to him but he wants us to accept it

The only problem he has started from his landlord who happens to be an unbelieving Jew. Those people hate Jesus with passion so he infused hatred for Jesus name in sonm's heart so anytime you mention that name "JESUS" sonmvayina feels like dying! cheesy

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:37pm On Nov 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


God said "let us make man in our image after our likeness..let them have dominion
.......

And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul...

That breath of life (God's spirit) is the same image and likeness as god...the body is the same image and likeness as the earth..

The main idea is that it is God's spirit that dwells in the body experiencing human life. When death comes, the spirit departs the body and goes to God and the body is buried to become one with the earth....like rain water that becomes dirty when it falls to the earth. Man is therefore imperfect by design. But the spirit is pure and does not need saving from anything.....it is God's spirit, but as soon as it enters the mud, it becomes dirty....thats why God can never be a man...


If you study the Igbo creation myth..it is more enriching , it goes further to say God used sticks for the bones, etc.
But all the same, the elements are the same...

I will be ready to entertain a follow up question

Are you confessing that you are Peter? You said all these 2 or3 years back and I answered you and when you could no longer give a reasonable counter you went straight up insane. So, case closed.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:40pm On Nov 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


No be me talk this one ...

Dtruthspeaker..

People are actually noticing..

Na so una dey talk wen una shock and no fit counter! So, na normal olodo talk.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by tctrills: 11:24pm On Nov 26, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Let's forget about religion, let's pretend there is no religion but use our brains and be fair

As to the origin of life, we all know that nothing can produce nothing, it is proven that life CANNOT be formed from nonlife
That logic has helped many to conclude that someone should be responsible for making all living forms, the universe with it's order and bodies and laws and regulations and mechanisms. Though no one has claimed to have seen such one on when he made all these, the evidence is so compelling that majority of people give credit to a higher power but people have different ideas and beliefs about who or what that One is

On the other hand, some believe that someone is not responsible. Some say so cos they don't believe in something they cannot see but they believe in gravity, mind, temperature, electricity, air, wind as if we can see them.
Others believe so cos they see that most books or myths as to the origin of life and the beginning of the universe is completely unscientific especially the Greek legends, Roman mythology and many others but one record stands out that they can't dispute but based on the other books, they hold onto it
Others believe so cos of the problems of life and the hypocrisy of those who claim to represent the One they say formed all life. Does that make sense to prove that one is not responsible for making life? They won't say that nobody made a knife cos someone or some people used it in stabbing others to death. If at the end of today, someone hijack a airplane and use it on suicide mission as we been hearing, will it make sense to believe that no one made that plane?
Others believe so cos there are different ideas and beliefs about the One who is responsible for life. Does that make sense? If I say, Mr A drew that painting, someone says it is Mr B, someone else says it is Mrs D, another says it is Miss Y. These are really confusing, all are not true but will you simply say that the art has no painter cos of these contrary opinions? Or because the person did not reveal himself to you.

Belief in a creator should not be stupid or gullible or cos you were taught in a religious centre. It must be out of personal conviction that you must be willing to defend
Belief in a no creator should likewise be intelligible, not cos you were taught at school or betrayed by religion. That religion is no compatible with science is actually a lie. The most renowned scientists of all times were actually religions people, some were monks and priests and they loved sciences.

Without any insults, what is your conviction that there is a Creator or that there is no Creator
See, no logic can prove their was a creator or not. It all about personal conviction and faith.
Everyone needs to find their beliefs. We can't argue the existence of a creator.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:44am On Nov 27, 2022
tctrills:

See, no logic can prove their was a creator or not. It all about personal conviction and faith.
Everyone needs to find their beliefs. We can't argue the existence of a creator.

Personal conviction based on what?

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 8:20am On Nov 27, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Na so una dey talk wen una no shock and no fit counter! So, na normal olodo talk.

No be one person,
No be two


Plenty pipo...

Don't you think you need a reality check..?

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 8:22am On Nov 27, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Are you confessing that you are Peter? You said all these 2 or3 years back and I answered you and when you could no longer give a reasonable counter you went straight up insane. So, case closed.

Lol...

It did not make sense


Why would I waste my time on your blabbing?

You don't think before you type..

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:25am On Nov 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


No be one person,
No be two
Plenty pipo...

Don't you think you need a reality check..?

And all of dem be stupid people.

I don talk am since 2020 if person validly counter me, me I go use my mouth honour am.

So till den, make una dey gada una stupidity.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:28am On Nov 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


Lol...

It did not make sense


Why would I waste my time on your blabbing?

You don't think before you type..

See, you are still mad! And you have proven to be Peter as I first thought but did not fully remember. Those drugs have really finished your brain.

After all these years I can now conclusively say that your insanitu is incurable no matter your lucid moments. You would always be mad and insane and kolo.
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 8:32am On Nov 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


God said "let us make man in our image after our likeness..let them have dominion
.......

And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul...

That breath of life (God's spirit) is the same image and likeness as god...the body is the same image and likeness as the earth..

The main idea is that it is God's spirit that dwells in the body experiencing human life. When death comes, the spirit departs the body and goes to God and the body is buried to become one with the earth....like rain water that becomes dirty when it falls to the earth. Man is therefore imperfect by design. But the spirit is pure and does not need saving from anything.....it is God's spirit, but as soon as it enters the mud, it becomes dirty....thats why God can never be a man...


If you study the Igbo creation myth..it is more enriching , it goes further to say God used sticks for the bones, etc.
But all the same, the elements are the same...

I will be ready to entertain a follow up question

Aemmyjah and Maxindhouse and dtruthspeaker

What is the error in this..


Forget about me and let us tackle the matter at hand..

Read it again and tell me the mistake in my point. So people can learn. Tell me what you don't understand and give me your own understanding....so we can move forward..

Thank you..
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 9:03am On Nov 27, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


See, you are still mad! And you have proven to be Peter as I first thought but did not fully remember. Those drugs have really finished your brain.

After all these years I can now conclusively say that your insanitu is incurable no matter your lucid moments. You would always be mad and insane and kolo.


Ok...can you now comment on my post,

Think and understand it first before answering..

Let your answer be based on the issues I raised..

I won't mind a different perspective
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by tctrills: 9:29am On Nov 27, 2022
Aemmyjah:


Personal conviction based on what?
Personal conviction does not need to even have a strong basic.
When I was younger, I was convinced that India beat Nigeria 100 -1 in a football match just because someone told me so.
For those who believe in a creator and even those who do not believe in a creator, all the needed was anyone or anything to convince them.

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by Wilgrea7(m): 9:32am On Nov 27, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Let's forget about religion, let's pretend there is no religion but use our brains and be fair

Ok

As to the origin of life, we all know that nothing can produce nothing, it is proven that life CANNOT be formed from nonlife
That logic has helped many to conclude that someone should be responsible for making all living forms, the universe with it's order and bodies and laws and regulations and mechanisms. Though no one has claimed to have seen such one on when he made all these, the evidence is so compelling that majority of people give credit to a higher power but people have different ideas and beliefs about who or what that One is

Any reason why said higher power has to be singular? Remember... We're being “fair" here.

On the other hand, some believe that someone is not responsible. Some say so cos they don't believe in something they cannot see but they believe in gravity, mind, temperature, electricity, air, wind as if we can see them.

Immediately wrong. Most people who lack a belief in God don't do so because of their inability to see It.

Others believe so cos they see that most books or myths as to the origin of life and the beginning of the universe is completely unscientific especially the Greek legends, Roman mythology and many others but one record stands out that they can't dispute but based on the other books, they hold onto it

For someone who tells us to “forget religion" at the beginning of this thread, you seem to be stylishly sneaking in your religion into this.

If i may ask, what is this wonderful undisputed record that stands out?

Others believe so cos of the problems of life and the hypocrisy of those who claim to represent the One they say formed all life. Does that make sense to prove that one is not responsible for making life? They won't say that nobody made a knife cos someone or some people used it in stabbing others to death. If at the end of today, someone hijack a airplane and use it on suicide mission as we been hearing, will it make sense to believe that no one made that plane?

Evil people and situations do not disprove the existence of a creator. Just like having an abusive parent would not mean that parents don't exist.

Here, we agree.

Others believe so cos there are different ideas and beliefs about the One who is responsible for life. Does that make sense? If I say, Mr A drew that painting, someone says it is Mr B, someone else says it is Mrs D, another says it is Miss Y. These are really confusing, all are not true but will you simply say that the art has no painter cos of these contrary opinions? Or because the person did not reveal himself to you.

I feel like i should point out (even though I've said so several times before) that lack of belief in a God is not the same as saying a God does not exist.

Belief in a creator should not be stupid or gullible or cos you were taught in a religious centre. It must be out of personal conviction that you must be willing to defend
Belief in a no creator should likewise be intelligible, not cos you were taught at school or betrayed by religion. That religion is no compatible with science is actually a lie. The most renowned scientists of all times were actually religions people, some were monks and priests and they loved sciences.

Without any insults, what is your conviction that there is a Creator or that there is no Creator
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:29am On Nov 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


Aemmyjah and Maxindhouse and dtruthspeaker

What is the error in this..

sonmvayina:

That breath of life (God's spirit) is the same image and likeness as god...the body is the same image and likeness as the earth..

The highlighted is where you got it all wrong because it's the same breath of life that energies all creatures even crawling creatures like ants they all have the same SPIRIT (BREATH OF LIFE) in them {Ecclesiastes 3:19} so that can't be the image of God that makes us different from all other creatures! Genesis 1:26

Try again! smiley
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 10:32am On Nov 27, 2022
MaxInDHouse:




The highlighted is where you got it all wrong because it's the same breath of life that energies all creatures even crawling creatures like ants they all have the same SPIRIT (BREATH OF LIFE) in them {Ecclesiastes 3:19} so that can't be the image of God that makes us different from all other creatures! Genesis 1:26

Try again! smiley



It is the same breath that is in all creatures...
A dog is God's breath experiencing life as a dog..just as you are God's spirit enjoying life as a man. ..
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 10:33am On Nov 27, 2022
MaxInDHouse:




The highlighted is where you got it all wrong because it's the same breath of life that energies all creatures even crawling creatures like ants they all have the same SPIRIT (BREATH OF LIFE) in them {Ecclesiastes 3:19} so that can't be the image of God that makes us different from all other creatures! Genesis 1:26

Try again! smiley



Why do you think it's not?
Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10am On Nov 27, 2022
sonmvayina:

Why do you think it's not?

Read Genesis 1:26 again then tell me how a dog that's part of all the creatures before the creation of man could be God's image! smiley

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Re: What Is Your View As To The Origin Of Life? by sonmvayina(m): 11:48am On Nov 27, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Read Genesis 1:26 again then tell me how a dog that's part of all the creatures before the creation of man could be God's image! smiley

Of course...that is exactly what it says..

Animals just like man is made up of spirit of God and dust from the earth....

That they are having a different experience than you does not mean they are not made in god's image...

"The earth is the lord's and the fullness thereof....

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