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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 8:46am On Dec 01, 2022
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:46am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

Nice development. People thought it wise to translate the Bible and Qur'an to native languages.

Sermons and lectures are delivered in churches and mosques in both English/Arabic and the mother tongue.

(This practice is important as it aids people's understanding of religious teachings and help them connect with the message being passed at a personal, deeper level.)

The same method should be adopted to teach in schools, especially when it comes to teaching STEM.

Teaching science in vernacular should be encouraged, and not frowned upon as most do, especially in South-West.

Also, teaching STEM in local languages should be used to supplement teaching in English.

There's a reason why many of the best scientists in Europe learnt and did science primarily in their mother tongue and secondarily in English.

I hope you can put the effort where your mouth is and lead the charge to translate stem concepts into each and everyone of of 250 languages.

No tribe should be marginalised or left behind in this grand scheme.

After this you can also start a push for localisation of of android, ios, ms. Office, autocad, in every Nigerian language. They should even ship manuals with everyone of our languages. Same should be done for every atm.

Let us see if the government really has the energy to push this through, or if this is a desperate push by the northern govt officials for some other way to get their youth educated
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:47am On Dec 01, 2022
Ibime:


grin grin grin

You have a point good Sir

Olowun is not Donjazet and User09 is not Nihilist

Paranoia has taken over this place

Seems donj spreads toxicity and mental illness everywhere he goes.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 9:19am On Dec 01, 2022
GloriousGbola:


Seems donj spreads toxicity and mental illness everywhere he goes.

Yeah, because I am dedicated to bursting your bubbles and exposing your wickedness in supporting this evil government.

Yes oo, I will continue to torment you and your likes that have sworn that Nigeria should remain deep in the throes of misrule. You support Tinubu simply because you are a Yoruba Muslim, nothing else, just tribe and religious inclination. Even though he's a co-founder of this administration, you choose to look beyond his failures and let him continue. Shame on you!!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 9:23am On Dec 01, 2022
I will continue to torment these BATstards here! They will have no breathing room to gaslight people. If you like call am toxicity oo, diagnosis oo, madness oo. Know that myself and sensible Nigerians will give you people no breathing room in your attempt to make Nigerians question their own realities.

Nigeria must get better.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 9:49am On Dec 01, 2022
Donjazet2:
I will continue to torment these BATstards here! They will have no breathing room to gaslight people. If you like call am toxicity oo, diagnosis oo, madness oo. Know that myself and sensible Nigerians will give you people no breathing room in your attempt to make Nigerians question their own realities.

Nigeria must get better.

Bro, I have to admit, you are a good orator and I have seen some truth in what you say here but guy, you are going extreme and it is not good. There is life after this election bro

What if obi wins and his govt becomes worse than Buhari govt? How will you feel? What if Tinubu wins or Atiku? You have to try and manage your tones with the way you attack people here.

While I acknowledge your position has a good points and has been able to shape my view on somethings, the way you go about it seems wrong. You can do this and win many voters without attacking anyone here.

Ko neccecri now.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:53am On Dec 01, 2022
This oloriburuku is playing the tribal war again
Remember 2 can play the game what is Yoruba Muslim

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:58am On Dec 01, 2022
Donjazet2:


Yeah, because I am dedicated to bursting your bubbles and exposing your wickedness in supporting this evil government.

Yes oo, I will continue to torment you and your likes that have sworn that Nigeria should remain deep in the throes of misrule. You support Tinubu simply because you are a Yoruba Muslim, nothing else, just tribe and religious inclination. Even though he's a co-founder of this administration, you choose to look beyond his failures and let him continue. Shame on you!!

We are all living witnesses to the dubai that is Anambra.
The dubai where all the yeyebrities that support Peter obi only visit once a year.

That is all that needs to be said.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 9:59am On Dec 01, 2022
iamoyindamola:
This oloriburuku is playing the tribal war again
Remember 2 can play the game what is Yoruba Muslim
He is also supporting Obi because he is Igbo no need to sugarcoat it

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:00am On Dec 01, 2022
GloriousGbola:


I hope you can put the effort where your mouth is and lead the charge to translate stem concepts into each and everyone of of 250 languages.

No tribe should be marginalised or left behind in this grand scheme.

After this you can also start a push for localisation of of android, ios, ms. Office, autocad, in every Nigerian language. They should even ship manuals with everyone of our languages. Same should be done for every atm.

Let us see if the government really has the energy to push this through, or if this is a desperate push by the northern govt officials for some other way to get their youth educated
I'm already writing a Physics textbook in Yoruba based on my teaching experience in the field over the years.

I know other people that have done the same for other subjects like Math in Hausa language.

Teachers in each tribe should take this step for their students to aid their understanding.

The Bible and Qur'an (especially the Bible) are available in the local languages; did those translated books fall from heaven or what's your point really?

People can translate scientific concepts and principles into the local languages the same way the religious texts were translated into the local languages.

I don't see your point really because you're not making any sense. The other time, you argued ignorantly that Yoruba characters are English characters, and I corrected you.

Don't argue about what you're not knowledgeable of.

We're talking about teaching STEM in mother tongue, you're mentioning localisation of tech in local languages.

What's the correlation? The current model for teaching has failed woefully and needs to be modified to suit our local environment and needs.

Are you teaching Android, IOS to students in primary and secondary schools?

This discussion is about teaching STEM in local languages to Nigerian students starting from the elementary classes where they're taught Basic Science.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:02am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

I'm already writing a Physics textbook in Yoruba based on my teaching experience in the field over the years.

I know other people that have done the same for other subjects like Math in Hausa language.

Teachers in each tribe should take this step for their students to aid their understanding.

The Bible and Qur'an (especially the Bible) are available in the local languages; did those translated books fall from heaven or what's your point really?

People can translate scientific concepts and principles into the local languages the same way the religious texts were translated into the local languages.

I don't see your point really because you're not making any sense. The other time, you argued ignorantly that Yoruba characters are English characters, and I corrected you.

Don't argue about what you're not knowledgeable of.

We're talking about teaching STEM in mother tongue, you're mentioning localisation of tech in local languages?

What's the correlation? The current model for teaching has failed woefully and needs to be modified to suit our local environment and needs.

Are you teaching Android, IOS to students in primary and secondary schools?

This discussion is about teaching STEM in local languages to Nigerian students starting from the elementary classes where they're taught Basic Science.
This is a good one kindly let us know when it's out

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:05am On Dec 01, 2022
iamoyindamola:
This oloriburuku is playing the tribal war again
Remember 2 can play the game what is Yoruba Muslim

It is my foolish jjc kinsmen who are aligning with these jokers I feel sorry for. It is nothing I have not seen before. Dyed in the wool, hardcore tribalists forming cosmopolitan crusader. The Mask go comot. It is inevitable

Same people who know obi for what he is, incompetent, disloyal, unable to adhere to the most mundane of process lying through their teeth.

Give them small opportunity and they will show their colour.

The Irony is not lost on the ediat that neither I nor Tinubu is particularly religious.

But donj is what he is - bring on the toxicity. Las Las this place will devolve into the politics thread

As the days count down and reality overcomes sm noise, donj will outdo kanye west as his mask crumbles and his tribalism comes to the fore

Small fundraising and he is already hyperventilating cheesy cheesy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 10:08am On Dec 01, 2022
A40:
They are an epic failure of a party. Party of poverty and misfortune

Only one party
ASUU strike combined more than 2 years
Debt >>>> Revenue
Emptied Foreign reserves
Inflated food prices
Record levels of insecurity
Record inflation
Wrecked the economy
Banned Twitter
Return ticket to Abuja almost 200k
$1 = 700
Emirates Airline suspends flights
BA suspends flights
Mass exodus of the middle class

The list is endless

Plus Tinubu is in even worse shape than Buhari was. In sane climes people would not be talking about if Tinubu and APC would lose. That one would be foregone conclusion. It would be about by what margin. Landslide or small majority
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:09am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

I'm already writing a Physics textbook in Yoruba based on my teaching experience in the field over the years.

I know other people that have done the same for other subjects like Math in Hausa language.

Teachers in each tribe should take this step for their students to aid their understanding.

The Bible and Qur'an (especially the Bible) are available in the local languages; did those translated books fall from heaven or what's your point really?

People can translate scientific concepts and principles into the local languages the same way the religious texts were translated into the local languages.

I don't see your point really because you're not making any sense. The other time, you argued ignorantly that Yoruba characters are English characters, and I corrected you.

Don't argue about what you're not knowledgeable of.

We're talking about teaching STEM in mother tongue, you're mentioning localisation of tech in local languages.

What's the correlation? The current model for teaching has failed woefully and needs to be modified to suit our local environment and needs.

Are you teaching Android, IOS to students in primary and secondary schools?

This discussion is about teaching STEM in local languages to Nigerian students starting from the elementary classes where they're taught Basic Science.

One physics textbook? That is really going to change the pace. At this rate we will be done in another 20 years.

You don't understand the correlation? Are you not the one who was calling for a Yoruba nation the other day? Or you are unable to look that far down the line?

The model for teaching has failed because of the incompetence of Nigerian teachers

Maybe you can tell us how many first class students and brains were taught in thier native language.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 10:14am On Dec 01, 2022
GloriousGbola:


It is my foolish jjc kinsmen who are aligning with these jokers I feel sorry for. It is nothing I have not seen before. Dyed in the wool, hardcore tribalists forming cosmopolitan crusader. The Mask go comot. It is inevitable

Same people who know obi for what he is, incompetent, disloyal, unable to adhere to the most mundane of process lying through their teeth.

Give them small opportunity and they will show their colour.

The Irony is not lost on the ediat that neither I nor Tinubu is particularly religious.

But donj is what he is - bring on the toxicity. Las Las this place will devolve into the politics thread

As the days count down and reality overcomes sm noise, donj will outdo kanye west as his mask crumbles and his tribalism comes to the fore

Small fundraising and he is already hyperventilating cheesy cheesy

All I see in this post is a tribalist finally coming out of his shell boldly. You are an individual that has used xenophobic talking points severally. You have said that people should stop coming to Lagos from their hell holes. It's not surprising that the mask is now falling, hence your projection.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:16am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

I'm already writing a Physics textbook in Yoruba based on my teaching experience in the field over the years.

I know other people that have done the same for other subjects like Math in Hausa language.

Teachers in each tribe should take this step for their students to aid their understanding.

The Bible and Qur'an (especially the Bible) are available in the local languages; did those translated books fall from heaven or what's your point really?

People can translate scientific concepts and principles into the local languages the same way the religious texts were translated into the local languages.

I don't see your point really because you're not making any sense. The other time, you argued ignorantly that Yoruba characters are English characters, and I corrected you.

Don't argue about what you're not knowledgeable of.

We're talking about teaching STEM in mother tongue, you're mentioning localisation of tech in local languages.

What's the correlation? The current model for teaching has failed woefully and needs to be modified to suit our local environment and needs.

Are you teaching Android, IOS to students in primary and secondary schools?

This discussion is about teaching STEM in local languages to Nigerian students starting from the elementary classes where they're taught Basic Science.

I actually chose not to go on, because you clearly have a bee up your bonnet and are emotionally invested in your delusions that balkanisation of our educational syllabus will miraculously carry Nigeria into a glorious future.

Rather than opt to make our students competitive on the global stage, you would rather throw more complexity into the equation.

It will really be interesting seeing how youth corpers from other regions will teach students maths and chemistry and biology in other languages.

Seeing as you are writing a book, I guess your real goal is to corner the native language textbook market. Always follow the money, not the shalaye
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:17am On Dec 01, 2022
Donjazet2:


All I see in this post is a tribalist finally coming out of his shell boldly. You are an individual that has used xenophobic talking points severally. You have said that people should stop coming to Lagos from their hell holes. It's not surprising that the mask is now falling, hence your projection.

If you believe Peter obi is a miracle worker, you should be able to live in his dubai, not Tinubus shithole.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:23am On Dec 01, 2022
GloriousGbola:


I actually chose not to go on, because you clearly have a bee up your bonnet and are emotionally invested in your delusions that balkanisation of our educational syllabus will miraculously carry Nigeria into a glorious future.

Rather than opt to make our students competitive on the global stage, you would rather throw more complexity into the equation.

It will really be interesting seeing how youth corpers from other regions will teach students maths and chemistry and biology in other languages.

Seeing as you are writing a book, I guess your real goal is to corner the native language textbook market. Always follow the money, not the shalaye
Slavery is your problem. Only a slave will have a problem with teaching science in his mother tongue like it's done in most advanced nations including China.

You must be wiser than the millions of educators using this method all around the world simply because it works most times and helps students reason independently and creatively, and not merely repeating what has been done in the field by Europeans.

I know you're a slave who hates anything in Yoruba; don't assume everyone is a slave like you.

For slaves in this part of the world, English language is the best language in the world and Yoruba is something to be ashamed of, but the English don't rate Yoruba at all.

Can you see how stupid you sound?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 10:25am On Dec 01, 2022
iamoyindamola:
This oloriburuku is playing the tribal war again
Remember 2 can play the game what is Yoruba Muslim

Yours is always the way of the coward, stay on the sidelines and keep taking shots,then run away when engaged.

Just look around you, first, explain why any single person would still support this party despite the monumental failure, then look around here, tell me why all his supporters here happen to be only people of his own tribe? People who happen to have said the very worst of things.

Damola prove that you are not a tribalist, give your unbiased view about this talking point. What do you make of the person who uttered these words?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:25am On Dec 01, 2022
German students, Korean students, Chinese students, English students, Polish students, French students, Swedish students, and many others, all of which are taught in their mother tongue, aren't competitive on the global stage abi

I know critical thinking isn't your forte.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:27am On Dec 01, 2022
iamoyindamola:

This is a good one kindly let us know when it's out

Mayble It's just me, but I don't see such move achieving anything serious. Let's take Yoruba language for example, most people I attanded secondary school with who are Yoruba cannot read and write in Yoruba Language fairly well despite being taught Yoruba Language as a subject from primary school to secondary school.

While I was in secondary school and we were asked to read the approved Yoruba literature textbook, only few can read Yoruba well and observe the "ami"(do, re, mi sounds) appropriately. A lot of people copied during WAEC while writing composition, letter writing etc.

If most people cannot even excel in this basic Yoruba Language, how does one expect them to learn scientific concepts in Yoruba and understand? Most Yoruba Christians cannot even read Yoruba Bible without being corrected by elders every now and then. I think using Yoruba as the language of instruction for scientific concepts will only make the process of learning longer than it should take.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:32am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

Slavery is your problem. Only a slave will have a problem with teaching science in his mother tongue like it's done in most advanced nations including China.

You must be wiser than the millions of educators using this method all around the world simply because it works most times and helps students reason independently and creatively, and not merely repeating what has been done in the field by Europeans.

I know you're a slave who hates anything in Yoruba; don't assume everyone is a slave like you.

For slaves in this part of the world, English language is the best language in the world and Yoruba is something to be ashamed of, but the English don't rate Yoruba at all.

Can you see how stupid you sound?

indians are killing it in the IT industry

theraja , the electrical engineering bible is in english

to the students buying into this BS

you can study in english and have a shot at changing the world - or study in your native language and have a shot at being heavily accented long distance customer support

the choice is yours.

like so many nigerian educators - you are a failure at imparting knowledge - it is understandable that you are looking for some dubious impractical and ultimately useless way out .

its not me - its the fact that i am teaching students in english

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:32am On Dec 01, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Mayble It's just me, but I don't see such move achieving anything serious. Let's take Yoruba language for example, most people I attanded secondary school with who are Yoruba cannot read and write in Yoruba Language fairly well despite being taught Yoruba Language as a subject from primary school to secondary school.

While I was in secondary school and we were asked to read the approved Yoruba literature textbook, only few can read Yoruba well and observe the "ami"(do, re, mi sounds) appropriately. A lot of people copied during WAEC while writing composition, letter writing etc.

If most people cannot even excel in this basic Yoruba Language, how does one expect them to learn scientific concepts in Yoruba and understand? Most Yoruba Christians cannot even read Yoruba Bible without being corrected by elders every now and then. I think using Yoruba as the language of instruction for scientific concepts will only make the process of learning longer than it should take.

I actually struggle to write yoruba sentence because of the ami ohun but i can read it very
What shege is doing is first of it kind you will be surprise people will buy into it even though some will feel it is not necessary
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:33am On Dec 01, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Mayble It's just me, but I don't see such move achieving anything serious. Let's take Yoruba language for example, most people I attanded secondary school with who are Yoruba cannot read and write in Yoruba Language fairly well despite being taught Yoruba Language as a subject from primary school to secondary school.

While I was in secondary school and we were asked to read the approved Yoruba literature textbook, only few can read Yoruba well and observe the "ami"(do, re, mi sounds) appropriately. A lot of people copied during WAEC while writing composition, letter writing etc.

If most people cannot even excel in this basic Yoruba Language, how does one expect them to learn scientific concepts in Yoruba and understand? Most Yoruba Christians cannot even read Yoruba Bible without being corrected by elders every now and then. I think using Yoruba as the language of instruction for scientific concepts will only make the process of learning longer than it should take.

If it's not effective, why is it being practiced in many developed countries and other nations such as Germany, Japan, France, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and others?

Well, you once said English is the best language in the world sha, yet the English don't see Yoruba as the best language in the world.

I know Yoruba is something to be ashamed of for people like you; it's local and backward.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:35am On Dec 01, 2022
Me engage a wasted soul like you
Lailai what is it they say about pigs again

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 10:35am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:
German students, Korean students, Chinese students, English students, Polish students, French students, Swedish students, and many others, all of which are taught in their mother tongue, aren't competitive on the global stage abi

I know critical thinking isn't your forte.

I see you left out Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia. Countries who escaped poverty but maintained using English language as their lingua franca. People who still adopted "foreign religions" but are thriving regardless.

I still maintain that clinging onto tribal sentiments is useless. Like entirely useless. I want to think that Africans of all would understand this better. The number one cause of strife and war in Africa is usually tribal differences. We choose to continue to see each other differently. And I think that this teaching of "mother tongue" in schools deepen that.

The use of English language (a common language) in Nigeria has been nothing but a blessing to us. There is no downside to all of us communicating and understanding each other with the same language.
It really doesn't matter if the Yoruba language or the Igbo language or the Hausa language dies off in so far as we progress forward as a people. By progress, I mean economically, socially, technologically and one can argue that our tribal sentiments and differences actually slow down these aforementioned progresses.

You need to leave behind this mentality of African culture superiority or the likes. It is truly a meaningless sentiment to have.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 10:36am On Dec 01, 2022
GloriousGbola:


indians are killing it in the IT industry

theraja , the electrical engineering bible is in english

to the students buying into this BS

you can study in english and have a shot at changing the world - or study in your native language and have a shot at being heavily accented long distance customer support

the choice is yours.



This shows you don't understand simple statements in simple English. "Teaching STEM in Yoruba should be used to supplement teaching it in English, not replaced the use of English language."

This is what I said.

The Indians that you mentioned are taught in both Hindu and English.

You've no point at all.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:37am On Dec 01, 2022
A001 should create a yoruba forum jare

it can't be that hard. to emacipate us slaves

since he is always capping about the bible and quran being in yoruba . there are russian, indian, japanese and chinese forums - no be so?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:40am On Dec 01, 2022
Blueraydick i read some part in cuba, brazil speak yoruba same with some west africa countries close to us
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:40am On Dec 01, 2022
Japan has only one language, and different dialects.

Nigeria has 250 languages, and uncountable dialects

When a child learns Physics in Yoruba, he will come and write WAEC, NECO, JAMB, and the rest in English.

Or when he learns it in Yoruba, he gets an admission into UNIMAID, and begins to learn it in Hausa again.

Call me slave, but it is not worth it

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:41am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

This shows you don't understand simple statements in simple English. "Teaching STEM in Yoruba should be used to supplement teaching it in English, not replaced the use of English language."

This is what I said.

The Indians that you mentioned are taught in both Hindu and English.

You've no point at all.

mr lecturer

what language is theraja written in?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2oW2curkI

what language are they teaching thevenin's theorem in?

i just spent the last two nights trawling through some indian technical documents only the header was in hindi characters. everything else was in english.


feel free to waste your energy pursuing a meaningless pipe dream that will do nothing.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 10:41am On Dec 01, 2022
A001:

If it's not effective, why is it being practiced in many developed countries and other nations such as Germany, Japan, France, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and others?

Well, you once said English is the best language in the world sha, yet the English don't see Yoruba as the best language in the world.

I know Yoruba is something to be ashamed of for people like you; it's local and backward.

But you do know that the average igala man cares for nothing about Yoruba. Same thing with an ogoni man in rivers, or Ebira in logo or urhobo in Delta. One thing we all do care about though is the English language because it is the agreed upon language that we use to understand ourselves.

You're really making this cultural and tribal thing such a big deal!

And I dare say you're even being myopic and selfish. Because try to think of this, the ogoni tribe is a Kalahari tribe in rivers state are a minority tribe with not up to 200,000 People. There are many other small tribes like these scattered across Nigeria hence us having over 750 different tribes in such a small enclave.

Do you advocate that all these tribes start teaching maths, physics, chemistry in all the different languages? Common man!

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