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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:32am On Dec 09, 2022
FBS:

Running from pillar to post was not the better option - not just because Kane scored but you don't defend a 2 v 1 by running upanda.
The use and understanding of space is the unseen magic force in football, whether as an attacking player or a defender.

Did Koulibaly run up and down

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:34am On Dec 09, 2022
MorataFC:
Yeah, is hard for me to understand blaming someone which odd is against, if it is 1v1 I can blame him because the chance will be 50/50 but this scenario is 2v1 which puts the odd as 90/10, the odd is against him, so you think Foden is naive and will fail to do the necessary thing if Koulibaly "baited" as you suggested? what could be the saving grace for him is either Foden or Kane made an error, aside from that I don't think a football fan will blame any defender in a 2 against-1 situation if the goal is eventually scored.
If you, Leyqute be Foden and Popizaino is Kane, will you miss that chance? grin

Please I want an affirmative answer.

YES OR NO


They think every footballer is a fool like Sissoko

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 4:41am On Dec 09, 2022
raumdeuter:


Did Koulibaly run up and down
You tell me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 7:27am On Dec 09, 2022
FBS:

haha. Ibims fighting Messi. cheesy
He really mean am
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 7:37am On Dec 09, 2022
MorataFC:
Yeah, is hard for me to understand blaming someone which odd is against, if it is 1v1 I can blame him because the chance will be 50/50 but this scenario is 2v1 which puts the odd as 90/10, the odd is against him, so you think Foden is naive and will fail to do the necessary thing if Koulibaly "baited" as you suggested? what could be the saving grace for him is either Foden or Kane made an error, aside from that I don't think a football fan will blame any defender in a 2 against-1 situation if the goal is eventually scored.
If you, Leyqute be Foden and Popizaino is Kane, will you miss that chance? grin

Please I want an affirmative answer.

YES OR NO

But when VVD was in this same scenario, was this grâce afforded to him?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 7:51am On Dec 09, 2022
In 2v1 situation the best option is to backtrack while maintaining a body angle that will enable the marker cut-off the passing lane, charging up the player with the ball in such situation is risky because a simple pass or dribble will eliminate the marker completely.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 7:55am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Flick is a good coach ,the German fa knows better than you

Enrique remains Spanish best national team coach after del Bosque

Local man is returning to club football ,watch how teams will quee to get him
Where do you put Louis Aragones the man who brought about Spain's revival in 2008, the core of the team that won 2010 World Cup are Aragones boys he used to destroy teams in Euro 2008.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:58am On Dec 09, 2022
Amoto94:

Where do you put Louis Aragones the man who brought about Spain's revival in 2008, the core of the team that won 2010 World Cup are Aragones boys he used to destroy teams in Euro 2008.

Okay sorry ,thanks for reminding me about Aragones

He will only be behind del bosque

You are right

I forgot jare

The man is even underrated

May his soul keep resting in peace
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:06am On Dec 09, 2022
Unpopular opinion

Suarez is a better player than Lewandowski and benzema

Use champions league goals ,ballon d or ,fifa player of the year against am ,I no go still agree with you .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:14am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Unpopular opinion

Suarez is a better player than Lewandowski and benzema

Use champions league goals ,ballon d or ,fifa player of the year against am ,I no go still agree with you .
How is this an unpopular opinion?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:18am On Dec 09, 2022
Unlimited22:

How is this an unpopular opinion?

Many people won’t agree because of some certain records
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 8:33am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Unpopular opinion

Suarez is a better player than Lewandowski and benzema

Use champions league goals ,ballon d or ,fifa player of the year against am ,I no go still agree with you .
Suarez in 2013/14 still remains the greatest individual season of any premier league player, 31 goals 10 assists in an average Liverpool side despite missing the first 8 games and not playing penalties...
Ditto the season when he scored 40 goals and 16 assists in La Liga, being top scorer and top assister simultaneously...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:35am On Dec 09, 2022
Spanish football & their academies must keep in mind that the penetration and lethal nature of Fernando Torres, David Villa & Pedro was every bit as key to their 2008-2012 era of dominance as the numerous pass masters they had in midfield. Premier League Panel
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:48am On Dec 09, 2022
CAPdan21:

Suarez in 2013/14 still remains the greatest individual season of any premier league player, 31 goals 10 assists in an average Liverpool side despite missing the first 8 games and not playing penalties...
Ditto the season when he scored 40 goals and 16 assists in La Liga, being top scorer and top assister simultaneously...

They will come and use benzema ballon d or and tell us benzema is better

Football sha

Suarez that was competing with prime Messi and cr7

That Liverpool season ehnn ,was to litt ,under Brendan Rodgers if I am not mistaken right ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:51am On Dec 09, 2022
Amoto94:
Spanish football & their academies must keep in mind that the penetration and lethal nature of Fernando Torres, David Villa & Pedro was every bit as key to their 2008-2012 era of dominance as the numerous pass masters they had in midfield. Premier League Panel

The pass masters ,David Villa Pedro Fernando torres

Pedro was from 2010 as a 20 year old

Fernando torres ,David Villa where the boss of the attack
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by akwesenana: 8:52am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


They will come and use benzema ballon d or and tell us benzema is better

Football sha

Suarez that was competing with prime Messi and cr7

That Liverpool season ehnn ,was to litt ,under Brendan Rodgers if I am not mistaken right ?
Yeah Rodgers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 9:02am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


They will come and use benzema ballon d or and tell us benzema is better

Football sha

Suarez that was competing with prime Messi and cr7

That Liverpool season ehnn ,was to litt ,under Brendan Rodgers if I am not mistaken right ?
People need to rewatch his 4 goal haul against Norwich if you've forgotten what Suarez was capable of....Some of the Best goals in that Epl season and he scored them in one game...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimmarlykay(m): 9:25am On Dec 09, 2022
Amoto94:
In 2v1 situation the best option is to backtrack while maintaining a body angle that will enable the marker cut-off the passing lane, charging up the player with the ball in such situation is risky because a simple pass or dribble will eliminate the marker completely.

Wow...you took the words off my mind, backtracking is the best option allowing Foden to pause a bit or try to take on Koulibali hence giving his co defender time to cover Kane.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:36am On Dec 09, 2022
Bimmarlykay:


Wow...you took the words off my mind, backtracking is the best option allowing Foden to pause a bit or try to take on Koulibali hence giving his co defender time to cover Kane.
Though there's is an exceptional situation which is if the marker is close enough to the ball carrier he can decide to hark the player down and risk a send-off when his team is leading and with few minutes left to play.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 9:40am On Dec 09, 2022
Amoto94:
Spanish football & their academies must keep in mind that the penetration and lethal nature of Fernando Torres, David Villa & Pedro was every bit as key to their 2008-2012 era of dominance as the numerous pass masters they had in midfield. Premier League Panel
those pass masters still had iniesta a driving force in the midfield.
This current crop just sit deep and recycle football continously. Thousands of pointless passes. Pedri and gavi still has time to improve a lot. I don't even like how pedri sits too deep. Most times I think he sits deepers than foolish busquets
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 9:45am On Dec 09, 2022
CAPdan21:

People need to rewatch his 4 goal haul against Norwich if you've forgotten what Suarez was capable of....Some of the Best goals in that Epl season and he scored them in one game...
bro after the half way line he scored some delicious goals.
My best goal was the one he controlled the ball in the box and the goalie went the wrong way chaiii. The control mid air deleted the goalie
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 9:55am On Dec 09, 2022
zeusis:

those pass masters still had iniesta a driving force in the midfield.
This current crop just sit deep and recycle football continously. Thousands of pointless passes. Pedri and gavi still has time to improve a lot. I don't even like how pedri sits too deep. Most times I think he sits deepers than foolish busquets

It’s Enrique that’s making pedri sits deeper jare

He doesn’t sit that deep at Barca

Those ones are far far ahead of this ones nah

fabregas ,iniesta ,xavi ,David Silva ,xabi Alonso

No national team might produce these type of midfielders anytime soon ,they still even have Juan mata and santi carzola
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 9:59am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


It’s Enrique that’s making pedri sits deeper jare

He doesn’t sit that deep at Barca

Those ones are far far ahead of this ones nah

fabregas ,iniesta ,xavi ,David Silva ,xabi Alonso

No national team might produce these type of midfielders anytime soon ,they still even have Juan mata and santi carzola
Nigeria will produce better ones

I think la masia academy and spain just dey try force themselves to uphold the tiki taka legacy with this current crop of midfielders
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:59am On Dec 09, 2022
MorataFC:
Yeah, is hard for me to understand blaming someone which odd is against, if it is 1v1 I can blame him because the chance will be 50/50 but this scenario is 2v1 which puts the odd as 90/10, the odd is against him, so you think Foden is naive and will fail to do the necessary thing if Koulibaly "baited" as you suggested? what could be the saving grace for him is either Foden or Kane made an error, aside from that I don't think a football fan will blame any defender in a 2 against-1 situation if the goal is eventually scored.
If you, Leyqute be Foden and Popizaino is Kane, will you miss that chance? grin

Please I want an affirmative answer.

YES OR NO


The odds are against him. Yes. But the action he took raised it from maybe 80/20 to 95/5.

What I’ve been saying since is that he should bait Foden so that he can be forced to overthink and make a mistake, and at the same time track Kane so that Foden will be forced to delay the pass and Kane himself gets into an offside position.

Now, this doesn’t mean the odds still won’t be against him. It only means that they’ll have it a little bit more difficult to score. And frankly he’d have done his best to prevent a goal.

Jumping in to mark Foden increased the odds of a goal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 10:01am On Dec 09, 2022
Leyqute:


The odds are against him. Yes. But the action he took raised it from maybe 80/20 to 95/5.

What I’ve been saying since is that he should bait Foden so that he can be forced to overthink and make a mistake, and at the same time track Kane so that Foden will be forced to delay the pass and Kane himself gets into an offside position.

Now, this doesn’t mean the odds still won’t be against him. It only means that they’ll have it a little bit more difficult to score. And frankly he’d have done his best to prevent a goal.

Jumping in to mark Foden increased the odds of a goal.
you, capdan and airmark have really tried. Saying the same thing for the past 16 hours grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:04am On Dec 09, 2022
zeusis:

Nigeria will produce better ones

I think la masia academy and spain just dey try force themselves to uphold the tiki taka legacy

La masia isn’t forcing anything

Aside busquets who will be gone soon ,gavi is the only la masia midfielder people knows

Nigeria cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Cyberrex(m): 10:05am On Dec 09, 2022
Amoto94:
In 2v1 situation the best option is to backtrack while maintaining a body angle that will enable the marker cut-off the passing lane, charging up the player with the ball in such situation is risky because a simple pass or dribble will eliminate the marker completely.

I think they forgot foden is a left footer also, staying away from him give shim 2 options, a curve pass to kane(kane is faster than CSO, no doubt) or he goes for goal himself, either ways the two attackers are pro baller, arguably top 5 in d world in their respective positions

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 10:07am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


La masia isn’t forcing anything

Aside busquets who will be gone soon ,gavi is the only la masia midfielder people knows

Nigeria cheesy
what of foolish spain?

guy we have Iwobi, etebo pogba's regen e.t.c
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:07am On Dec 09, 2022
MorataFC:
Yeah, is hard for me to understand blaming someone which odd is against, if it is 1v1 I can blame him because the chance will be 50/50 but this scenario is 2v1 which puts the odd as 90/10, the odd is against him, so you think Foden is naive and will fail to do the necessary thing if Koulibaly "baited" as you suggested? what could be the saving grace for him is either Foden or Kane made an error, aside from that I don't think a football fan will blame any defender in a 2 against-1 situation if the goal is eventually scored.
If you, Leyqute be Foden and Popizaino is Kane, will you miss that chance? grin

Please I want an affirmative answer.

YES OR NO


As an attacker, I’m always thinking about the best and easiest route to score goals.

So, if we’re in a 2v1 and a defender commits himself to me that quickly, you bet I’m going to eliminate him by passing to the other guy. He forced me to make that decision, a decision which makes it easier for my team to score.

If he baited me whilst tracking my teammate, I’d be forced to make that decision myself. Do I want to go and score myself knowing that he will be in the path of goal? Or do I want to pass to my teammate so he could score- knowing that immediately I release the pass, na sliding tackle e go carry go meet am?

Making that decision will take me a few moments and I won’t be moving with the ball at top speed then. And I also have to act quickly because time is of essence.

An experienced attacker will delay the pass. And if the other guy is smart too, he’d spread the field. That way, he won’t be able to block the pass. And we’d have been forced to make that decision

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:08am On Dec 09, 2022
zeusis:

what of foolish spain?

guy we have Iwobi, etebo pogba's regen e.t.c

Etebo cheesy

We can boast of attackers though
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 10:11am On Dec 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Etebo cheesy

We can boast of attackers though
our attackers are foolish. Personally I like sadiq. The kind ball wey that guy play beginning of season omo him good. But he looks unserious abi he is unserious sef
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:14am On Dec 09, 2022
Cyberrex:


I think they forgot foden is a left footer also, staying away from him give shim 2 options, a curve pass to kane(kane is faster than CSO, no doubt) or he goes for goal himself, either ways the two attackers are pro baller, arguably top 5 in d world in their respective positions

It’s more difficult for a left footer to finish from the left side. Just like it’s more difficult for eight footers to finish from the right. Scoring from that angle is not easy.

That Foden does it often attests to his brilliance. Aaron Lennon has this skill too. So does Gareth Bale (4 goals vs Inter at LB).

Kane was positioned more centrally tho. He’s in a better position. Plus he’s the striker and he’s yet to score.

So, Foden’s thinking will likely be to pass to Kane. Or to make a dash and then square it for Kane to tap in.

Baiting Foden and making him delay his decision was the best option. It doesn’t guarantee that they won’t score but it’s their best chance of preventing the goal.

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