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Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 3:00pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
VHILL:Where do you get this idea from that the way to break a curse of any kind is to pray? Jesus Christ never taught this to His followers so why do you believe this to be the case? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by kwasoly(m): 3:00pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson: You asked two different question. As a Christian you can be affected by ancestral curses if you don't arise and deal with it in the place of prayer. Secondly in situation u offend someone and the person curse you, sincerely ask for forgiveness. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by crystalmoon(m): 3:00pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
With all the atrocities committed by the white people and their ancestors in Africa Australia South and North America I have not seen any of their descendants talk about generational curses , it seems this is only an African Nigerian Southern thing 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 3:01pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Geominer:Prayer breaks all yokes? Where do you get this idea from? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 3:06pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
kwasoly:1. Where do you get this idea that the way to break from your past is through prayer? Where is scripture did Jesus Christ, the one who you Christias supposedly believe in state this to be the case? ![]() 2. Where do you even get this idea that man has power to curse his fellowman? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by TenQ: 3:09pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
vannessa7:Why don't you respond to this first! I hardly post without justifiable proofs: I wish you can DENY these as FALSEHOOD and I will totally give up and stop posting anything on NL again. vannessa7:I also mentioned Job in the bible, I said: Job was once told by his wife, "...curse God and die"! Do you for once think that the evils befalling Job was because he was serving a wrong God? I can bet that If Job had denied God, then God would have left him alone AND his problems would have ceased because the aim of Satan in inflicting pain and difficulty on Job would have been achieved! This earth is a school where those who are qualified to be God's children are selected from all descendants of Adam and Eve. Therefore, every human being wil run the race that is set before them. The scripture says Heb 12:1: "...., and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us," Do you for once think that the evils befalling Job was because he was serving a wrong God? Interestingly, the first deliverance I did outside the church setting was of a Muslim girl. Everything was wrong with her and she wasn't graduating because most of her results were not found. Right in my office i prayed for her, she started manifesting and vomiting things inside my office. Long story short, within the week, all her result were found and she made the graduation list. She came looking for me to thank me for praying for her...all praise be to Jesus. Muslims are ALSO afflicted by the devil, is this not true? This was why I said: If exorcism is the way to know the true religion, then we'll be confused as Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Taoism, Scientology as well as some ATRs all perform exorcism. So, if we are to base our religion as what works, we'll certainly be in trouble. Is exorcism or deliverance a sufficient proof that a religion is sent by God? vannessa7:Let me comment on your responses vannessa7:You didnt answer the question I posted: It was about WHY YOU THINK GOD DID SEND JESUS....?! In Judaism, God promised the coming of the Messiah. The Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah because they assumed the Messiah would be a Warrior king rather than a Spiritual king. The Messiah was to save the world through Israel. Why is Jesus the only Human being who is -the Word of God -the Spirit of God -the only sinless human being -the only human BORN by a virgin -living in heaven with God as he was delivered from death (according to Islam) -the only creator of life (according to islam) -knows what is in people hearts (according to Islam) -spoke as a baby (according to Islam) WHY did God do this to a single human if apparently, this caused BILLIONS of people to become CHRISTIANS and so in Error? vannessa7:That is the Islamic claim that we worship the same God, BUT is this TRUE? Ask your Husband OR Your Imam and say: "Is Allah the same as Yahweh?": the answer would be a resounding NO! If the answer is NO, are they truly the same God!? I am sure you know that Revelations are often dangerous as Satan can often disguise himself as an Angel of Light. Unfortunately too: the word revelation is ALIEN to Islam as ONLY a Prophet (and Mohammed is the Last prophet) that can receive any Revelation. If you can confirm that ALLAH is not YAHWEH, your Soul may be in DANGER of Hell Fire! vannessa7:All you need is to read the differences in the description of Paradise as given by Islamic literatures and contrast with Christian literatures. I can give you references to each of these supposed allegation if you ask i. Are you aware that there is a brothel in paradise consisting of images of men and women. A man goes there to have sex with anyone of his pick? ii. That muslim men will have a minimum of 70 perpetual virgins in addition to their wives here on earth? iii. Are you aware that in paradise Allah will appear in a shape different to what you Muslims expect and you will reject him as Allah? iv. Are you aware that the muslim men will have enough booze (they cant get intoxicated) and an endless erection v. Are you aware that there is no Islamic record of the relationship of Allah with Muslims in paradise? vi. Are you aware that as a Muslim, you will ENTER hell Fire and then Allah will use Christians and Jews to replace/randsome you from the fire? vii. Are you aware that there appears no record of benefit to Muslim women in paradise except to be one of the sex properties of the muslim men? If you look critically, all these promises look like ENTICEMENT and TEMPTATIONS for people to become Muslims? Who is the chief temptere of Humans, and with what does he tempt people with? I challenge you to find me Hadiths that speak of Muslim Men and Women Worshoping or Praising Allah in Paradise. Just one will be enough!! vannessa7:It is understandable if God deceived the Romans and the Jews, BUT i. Can you show any evidence that Mary the Mother of Jesus was aware that the person on the cross was not Jesus? ii. Can you show any evidence that any of the Apostles of Jesus was aware that the person on the cross was not Jesus? iii. If the person taken down from the cross was not Jesus, why do you think the Women went to annoint Jesus early on sunday morning? iv. How come ALL the Apostles of Christ except John died a VIOLENT death preaching that Jesus died and rose up from the dead? v. What do you think the early Christians gained by preaching that their LORD was crucified stark NAKED on the cross? Would the story not be sweeeter if Chrostians claimed that Jesus disappeared!? Does this not show that Allah decieved Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles, the siblings of Jesus and the Disciples at large that jesus was crucified whereas, He wasnt? Hence, Allah Created Christianity as it is today! vannessa7:Have you forgotten that prophecies in the Old Testament all speak about the RESTORATION of Israel? How would Israel be restored when the people are annihilated by Muslims? Islam describes the Jews as Pigs and Monkeys: do you agree with this? Don't forget that Jesus, Mary, the Apostles and most of the Prophets of Islam are Jews. Are you saying contrary to the scriptures that at the end time, Israel would be EXTERMINATED? vannessa7:God can use anyone, BUT God punishes sin severely when committed by His Servants 1. Did Allah punish Mohammed for coveting, lusting after and eventually marrying the wife of Zaid his adopted? What did Allah do about it, he canceled Adoption henceforth so that people can legally marry the wives of their adopted son. Is this not nausiating? 2. Mohammed had sex with the 17 year old Safiyyah bint Huyayy the same day he killed her husband, father and family! Is this righteousness? 3. Mohammed had sex with Mariyah the Copt, the slave of his wife and it became trouble enough for Allah to reveal a Quran about it. Can your husband safely invite your prophet to live with you in your house for a month? 4. Mohammed was under a spell of "Black Magic" for almost one year and he was imagining things he didn't do as if he did them! if your prophet can be under demonic affliction, how much more you his followers? 5. Mohammed permitted PROSTITUTION (Mutah) for Muslims and even wrote it in the Quran! Do you still think Allah is Yahweh? 6. Did Mohammed not say "Satan commands him but only for good"!? Do you know a single prophet of God that satan instructs in righteousness!? 7. How come Mohammed revealed the verses of a woman breastfeeding an adult male 10 times. Is this from Allah? 8. How come a prophet of Allah could not distinguish between the Quran and the satanic verses? 9. How come Mohammed sets a law of Allah for Muslims yet he ALONE is above the laws? 10. How come the Holy Spirit of God is relegated down to the statues of Jubril by Mohammed? You know the Bible and therefore I ask: Show me just one prophet in the Bible whose sole means of hearing God was an Angel? Is Mary a Prophet of God? Is Gideon a Prophet of God? Are Samsons parent prophets of God? Is Lot a prophet of God? EVERY TRUE PROPHET OF GOD HEARS DIRECTLY FROM GOD! I will prefer that you read and meditate on the truth spoken. If you feel I have erred in same of my statements, I will present sources from Islamic literatures. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by DearGorgeous(f): 3:10pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson: If the offender genuinely repents of his/her past sins and ask God for forgiveness and deliverance, the causeless curse shall not then stand (Proverbs 26:2 KJV) That's where restitution also comes to play. You can walk up to the person you've offended in the past and ask for forgiveness. Finally, make sure to live a life devoid of offense towards God and towards man (Acts 24:6 KJV). Thank you. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Geominer: 3:11pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Yes, Prayer is the MASTER key, it breaks all yokes and barriers. Know the afforementioned & know peace. Reference: The BIBLE |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by GreatrAnalyst: 3:15pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
TheRealOwner: Great answer, such as I was looking for. In Addition, rebirth, being born again, gives us access to the Kingdom, but access doesn't equate to experience automatically. He has blessed us with every spiritual blessings in the heavenly places according to Ephesians 1, but these blessings manifest as we begin to lay hold, claim our rights and exercise our faith. God gave the Israelites the promised land, yet He asked them to contend for it in battle. Battle however which its outcome already has been determined. In likewise manner, Christians are called to battle. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 3:17pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Geominer:Where exactly in scripture does the above stated come from? ![]() Be specific please. ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Oyiboman69: 3:17pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Xyzee:you can't forgive him and at least send him a token from your hips of wealth, but you can give to others who are not in anyway related to you,what for?, public notice?. Men are really suffering in this earth and the reason is from our fellow men. If one cannot give because of what someone did to him,he can as well give because that someone brought him to life,even without having normal feeling for that person. you're not a Christian,stop parading yourself as one.... |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 3:21pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
GreatrAnalyst:1. According to Jesus Christ, access into the Kingdom of God can also be gained through the Broad Gate which leads to destruction (Hell) at the end of the day - John 3 vs 1 - 8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. . Yes, all those who will end up in Hell after Jesus Christ returns are all born-agains, too. So why assume there are only blessings that await all those who are born-again when Jesus Christ clearly outlined curses as well for those who will continue in sin even after entering into the Kingdom of God?. ![]() 2. Who exactly called you to battle? The same Jesus Christ who said He had overcome the world on behalf of each one who will choose to follow Him, adding that He also gives them His peace(opposite of battle) through all of the suffering and tribulation that awaits them as His followers? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by EbenezerTriumph: 3:24pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Asgard73:shut up head slammer. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by keymatt(m): 3:26pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Eriokanmi:You're absolutely RIGHT! |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by keymatt(m): 3:29pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
faceLAGOS:That’s a curse. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by harmony75: 3:30pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
No you will enjoy a new life you have confessed your sins if you need to restitute you do so too 2Cor 5V17 therefore if any man be in Christ he's a new creature old things have passed away behold old things have become new". Also Bible says no weapons fashioned against you shall prosper ancestral curse will not work against your family anymore bc you carry God's armour. So be bold and happy don't allow people or devil to use your sin against you, your father which is in heaven has forgiven you already. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Geominer: 3:41pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: LUKE 18:1 1 JOHN 5:14 |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Geominer: 3:44pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Jeremiah 33:3 Philipians 4:6 |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by faceLAGOS: 3:48pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
keymatt: I was thinking maybe the family is cursed. But, what I noticed is that the grandma’s children have attitudinal problems which they probably inherited from their grandma. They just can’t stay under a man’s authority. The grandma ran a beer parlor and the daughters grew up in that environment. Cheating and bed hopping is in their dna & genes. These are very beautiful women. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 3:49pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
What da fork does born again means? How does that shit even works? A grown ass adult goes back to their mother's womb to be born again? Fork that shit man! Crazy ass goons! |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by udemzeus(m): 3:59pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Not really, when you are born again you are delivered from sin, which qualifies you to heaven, but you still need to add extra efforts to break curses. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Satazaa: 4:08pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ogwumgbe:correct, for those who doubt go and read about the Wiccans or the Satanist church movement, they are growing like wild fire and are now openly practicing, they are very influential and are among the high and mighty in the western world, one thing that will shock many Africans who are so over religious is that Christianity is gradually dying in the white man's world after welcoming same sex marriage, LGBT and women priesthood ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by HRprof: 4:15pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Xyzee: @bolded is reason village people has been accused for what they know nothing about. What happened to sowing and reaping ![]() Your pastor have brainbrainwashed you that old thing will pass away then another person will now reap what you sow . This mentality is the reason when so called born again start receiving their karma they accused village people because old things has passed way. Is good to be smart in this life and known the kind of preaching you consume inside you |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 4:17pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
gypsey:No,it's different! One minute you are you, the next you have another aspect to you that is not under your control or grasp, a sort of appendage that wields you and not the other way around. It is actually fascinating because that spirit is with you 24/7 sometimes even a headache to your existence but over time you both meld, as it matures, and you no longer notice it apart from you but you stil can't control it as instead it controls you. ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by BigIyanga: 4:18pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson:Nothing like ancestral curses… White folks who killed black South Africans and stole their lands and resources … control 85% of the wealth in S/A. Germans started 2 world wars and killed 6m Jews… are the most progressive and richest country in EU… Look at Naija politrickians and their kids.. they’re progressing and running things in Naija… so no ancestral curses/bondage for them 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by mytty: 4:41pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
chidiebere2020: My Brotherman, you are answering with different scriptural reference to other people D question is for CHRISTIANS NOT JEWS, Answer if there is any biblical backup for A CHRISTIAN TO BE CURSED, In THE NEW TESTAMENT THE ANSWER IS NO, But still somethings can illegally happen to Christians especially if they are ignorant or as long as they remain BABIES/nepios |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 4:48pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
chidiebere2020:In Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, God clearly explained to you that the Laws contained in the Law of Moses, along with all the blessings and curses contained, only apply to those who are descendants of Jacob in the land or Canaan --- A National Constitution for the Nation of Israel. So why is a Nigerian living in a country other than Israel quoting from this Law as though it applies also to his person? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Zse1: 4:51pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Yes |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 4:53pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
mytty:Your answer is not correct. Jesus Christ did speak several curses to follow those who would teach lies in His name --- the false teachers and false prophets, as well as those who would follow them. ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Indispensable85(m): 4:57pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
There's a reason people go for deliverance after becoming born again. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by lebron7(m): 5:00pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Eriokanmi:Lmfao 1 Like |
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