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Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Dogeland: 5:02pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
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Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Satazaa: 5:04pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
casualobserver:OP this points you raised is by far the most brilliant take on this issues, simply awesome and hundred thumbs up for you bro ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by judedwriter(m): 5:05pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson: Being born born again does not exempt you from ancestral curses and bondages. Rather it empowers you to overcome them by the power of God through His Word and the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Jjennecco: 5:07pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Repent .and confess Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior bible said there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus then pray without season. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 5:11pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Indispensable85:That's because in their sins, their delusions continue. your deliverance cannot deliver anyone from God's curse. And yes, Jesus Christ laid out curses for those who will chose to continue in sin. ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Indispensable85(m): 5:12pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: That's not the type of curse the OP is talking about. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
TheRealOwner: Ooook. So it's only the spirit that's saved? So it means a born again Christian should enjoy himself f**king about anyhow since, you know, only his spirit is saved. Where the hell do all these "deliverance" pastors get all these diabolic ideas from?! What does "old things have passed away, all things have become new" mean to you? Oh! Let's avoid that part of the bible because it's not good for business and the narratives that go with it. SMH. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Ezenzu: 5:16pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson:If you are genuinely born again it won't have any binding effect on you. Making restitution after giving your life to Christ will advancely help. When a man is in Christ, he is a new creature. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:18pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Naira20: This is the most apt reply I've seen here. That ignorance is also always promoted by all these dodgy "deliverance" pastors who use it to manipulate and keep people under bondage in the name of conducting "deliverance" for people (in most cases, at a fee of other forms of payment). 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
IranianSea: Contrary to your post, they'll actually say yes, the Christian will still be affected. This is to make sure you come for "deliverance" sessions that involve all sorts of manipulation and other things. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Naira20: 5:23pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
You have a point but deliverance isn't a bad word just that many arrogate "deliverance" ministers to themselves instead of pointing men to Jesus, the deliverer. HedwigesMaduro: |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:23pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kingxchange44: And someone told you witchcraft was never a thing in Europe/America? You're one of those that have been brainwashed that all the occultic evils in the world are just limited to Africa and Asia, while the West is a cleansed, blessed region where only science holds sway, I suppose? You need to read more. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by fijihems: 5:24pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Naijanascam: You need to contact Evangelist Ebuka Obi of Zion prayer ministry outreach Lagos. He will educate you. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:24pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
olusledge: Lol. Those people always think it's only Africans that had ancestors that perpetrated evil. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by danowena: 5:40pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
chidiebere2020:Interesting. Where does the blood of Jesus' redemption of sins come in? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Charly68: 5:45pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
You know what you have been battling with even after claiming to be born again. Those issues are as result of your past life.. you must deal with them on the altar of prayers before you can experience total freedom. I believed that is the reason Jesus told us to ask till our joy be full in John 16:24 |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:47pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Huh? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Nobody: 5:48pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Born again my bottom! |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by edoairways: 5:55pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
tctrills:Ignorance is a disease . Satan dwell on your ignorance to deceive you |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by danowena: 5:55pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
tctrills:i was discussing with a friend recently how many people don't know the difference between work and grace. The concept of grace is so simple that it confuses even the "very serious born-agains". They want to work and mix it with "a little grace" (in their mind) then call it Grace. Romans 11:6. Grace means receiving an unearned gift. It is always given and never paid for. The idea that a person's work—such as keeping the law—could in some way contribute to receiving God's grace is a self-contradicting idea. If that were possible, grace would not be grace. Many don't grasp that the blood of Jesus that makes you born-again is all encompassing at it breaks all chains of darkness whether curses (generational or self, repercussions for sins, etc). It cleanses completely and not partially. It is sad that some big time churches especially the deliverance ministries seems to preach that the blood of Jesus is not enough. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 6:03pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Geominer:None of these verses provide evidence for the claim you made. Where exactly is it written or implied that Prayer is the master key and the lot as you had claimed? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by naijknight: 6:03pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Bible dey confuse himself chidiebere2020: |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 6:03pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Geominer:Again, none of these verses provide evidence for the claim you made regarding prayer being the master key and all that. How come? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Indispensable85:But curses are curses though meaning nothing good come from them. So, if a person is deluded into believing one particular curse resembles another, who is to say it can't be the curse at work? ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 6:08pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
gypsey:You have never experienced bipolar depression for yourself, have you? I lived it for most of my life and I can explain it to you like it were a buddy of mine but this spirit stuff is completely nothing like it. Even my psychiatrists were stumped when it all started, telling me instead that they couldn't find anything wrong with me. ![]() |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by MikeofAfrica: 6:12pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
phemmyfour: You are right but you are simpfying a complicated spiritual issue. Assuming your Father brought a car for you. He will not drive the car on your behalf. He expects you to learn how to drive, move into the car and impress him by driving the car. That is similar to what Jesus Christ did for us. He gave us victory over the Devil and his demons. However, in the book of 1 Peter 5: 8-9, we were told to resist the devil. Hence if we fail to resist the devil through prayers, we will not enjoy the victory given to us by Jesus Christ. Similarly, if we fail to break ancestral Curses through prayers , we will not enjoy the victory that Jesus gave us over ancestral curses. Jesus has brought the car of victory for us. We have to learn how to drive the car by resisting the devil through prayers. If we fail to pray, the victory of Jesus will not be effective in our lives. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by MikeofAfrica: 6:15pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
GRACEGLORY: You are right but you are simpfying a complicated spiritual issue. Assuming your Father brought a car for you. He will not drive the car on your behalf. He expects you to learn how to drive, move into the car and impress him by driving the car. That is what Jesus Christ did for us. He gave us victory over the Devil and his demons. However, in the book of 1 Peter 5: 8-9, we were told to resist the same devil . Hence if we fail to resist the devil through prayers, we will not enjoy the victory given to us by Jesus Christ. Similarly, if we fail to break ancestral Curses through prayers , we will not enjoy the victory that Jesus gave us over ancestral curses. Jesus has brought the car of victory for us. We have to learn how to drive the car by resisting the devil through prayers. If we fail to pray, the victory of Jesus will not be effective in our lives. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by phemmyfour: 6:19pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:Nothing like complicated spiritual issues before Jesus'. Once you surrendered to him, he took over the steering. He died for ALL CURSES: generational, ancestral, historical etc. You don't need to break what is already BROKEN. CURSES doesn't reside in DNA or gene like cancer |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by MikeofAfrica: 6:30pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
tctrills: My brother, you are still a kid on Spiritual issues. Do you think that the hurricanes that has been causing havoc in the United States and her neighbouring nations are ordinary. Is it not the same Alantic Ocean that surrounds Africa that is located in the America. Why is the Ocean so calm in Africa but violent in North America. Is that not a consequence of anceatral curse against the nations in North America? Note that the Pacific Ocean also surround America but has not cause any havoc because this curse was as a result of an abomination carried out in the Atlantic ocean. You need to seek spiritual knowledge because the world is very deep. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Dumte(m): 6:30pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
It is written: 2 Corinthians 5:17 New International Version 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here! The above verse clears everything. The moment you become born again, there is a level of divine protection that automatically covers you from under the law of any ancestral course. The Bible assures us in Colossians 2: 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;. Shalom! |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by MikeofAfrica: 6:33pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
tctrills: My brother, you are still a kid on Spiritual issues. Do you think that the hurricanes that has been causing havoc in the United States and her neighbouring nations are ordinary. Do you know the Spiritual steps the United States has taken against the hurricane without getting much results? Is it not the same Alantic Ocean that surrounds Africa that is located in the America. Why is the Ocean so calm in Africa but violent in North America. Is that not a consequence of anceatral curse against the nations in North America? Note that the Pacific Ocean also surround America but has not cause any havoc because this curse was as a result of an abomination carried out in the Atlantic ocean. You need to seek spiritual knowledge because the world is very deep. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Wealthinwealth1: 6:42pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
No, a born again can NEVER be under any curses because Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...and Col2:14-15 says blotting out handwriting of ordinances which were against that are contrary to our life and destiny, He removed them from our way and nailed them to the cross. The goodnews there is whatever that was nailed on the cross is nailed there forever cos Jesus declared IT IS FINISHED. so brethren what u need more after being born again is LIGHT and the only way to get the light is in the WORD OF GOD. The moment you are enlightened and know your right, curses wont even near u. God saith there shall be no enchantment against Jacob and there shall be no evil divination against Isreal. I am the Isreal of this generation so curses does not exist. Read more of the Word and you will see every of your right in God. SHALLOM |
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