raumdeuter:


Kante as CM how many goals did he have?

Let's finish up with the spineless DM fraudulently packaged as GOAT, who can't defend and still can't attack.

airmark:


Let's finish up with the spineless DM fraudulently packaged as GOAT, who can't defend and still can't attack.

Why should we finish with Busquets when we have Kante who played further upfront and could not score more

Ibime:




Iniesta job is not to add to a full possession cup. He never did. His passing stats were low. His job is to win the game, not hiding under other players possession work. You think Iniesta was contributing to Spain possession when they've already packed Busquets, Alonso and Xavi in midfield and shift him to the wing?

I know iniesta's job without you telling me. Without iniesta in Barca and spain they would retort to a completely different style of chance creation than the usual tiki taka and that would put more pressure on their midfield. This thing is so obvious now.

airmark:


They didn't play in the same era, so we can excuse him.

Now tell me why your GOAT Busquets, is useless in an era where Casemiro is contributing to goals after doing his primary duties?

When they didn't play the same era does that mean the pitch was stone during Makele's era ?

A40:
If I'm to learn it's definitely not from a dullard like you.

Conflating correlation with causation is only highlighting your muppetry.

Unless you can show me where Xavi never lost a Champions League tie with Iniesta on the pitch then your constant hammering on 2010 CL semis is foolishness especially as I have shown Barcelona lost pre Pep, With Pep and Post Pep with Iniesta on the pitch

If you are ready to debate with much more decorum,quote me. Before then, se gobe

airmark:


Well, nothing concerns me with Iniesta, a C.A.M, that turned to C.S.M - Central Shakushaku Midfielder and his ilks.

Busquets was hailed as the GOAT of all DMs, how could a bloody Brazilian like Casemiro be doing what Busquets couldn't do, and both played in the same era? I need answers from Busquets fans of which you are one.

Meanwhile,

Makelele 607 matches - 18 goals

Busquets 696 matches - 18 goals.

Busquets 696 matches 18 goals 42 assists = 60 g/a
Makelele 807 matches 24 goals 28 assists - 52 g/a

Given that Makelele even pplayed as a CM and even as an AM

https://www.transfermarkt.com/claude-makelele/leistungsdaten/spieler/4182

popizaino:


The reason why we dominated possession was simply because of Deco not any Lampard anywhere. Deco brought that Barca style that brought about calmness to our midfield with his ability to hold the ball under pressure without losing it. Nothing like Lampard.

And did Lampard not play in the same team? Did he spoil the possession. He infact had his best ever season

Proving my point that you don't need any Iniesta lamba about contributing to possession

Bayern Munich have been dominating possession with both Vidal and Muller in their midfield, with just Thiago running things, and you are giving me story about Iniesta being needed for possession with his paltry 60 passes.

Lampard fits very well with a possession team, he is a mover that always creates 5 yards before he receive the ball and he gives it on with one touch. He does not put foot on the ball and give others chance to dispossess him. You cannot recall a single goal Chelsea conceded from a Lampard turnover. He is not the driver of possession but he won't impede a possession game, just like Muller has not impeded Bayern possession game for 14 years. Lampard would absolutely smash it in that Barca midfield. La Liga would not have seen anything like it before. Midfield goal and assist records would have been broken. The Modric making waves over there in Spain was his small boy here in England.

raumdeuter:


Why should we finish with Busquets when we have Kante who played further upfront and could not score more

We should talk about Casemiro and Busquets since they both played in the same league. Why was it difficult for spineless Busquets to score, but easier for Casemiro in Spain?

popizaino:



When they didn't play the same era does that mean the pitch was stone during Makele's era ?

It's sensible to compare two players that played in the same league and in the same era. What's Busquets excuse for being useless in defence and in attack?

Leyqute:


Oya change Bruno to Kane for me. Ojoro cancel ojoro

It’s all good tho. Wasn’t really serious about the Kane ish. Many people didn’t predict he’d have a good tourno.

Are we having another round for the semis and final? For most of us, our candidates have been eliminated

lol
Sure all na banter nah as I don't think anyone is really taking this serious. Unless, well, you just never know....
Unfortunately you can't change candidates anymore.

About to lose Pulisic to Newcastle. I hope we will use the money to buy an upgrade, and not settle for a washed Sterling.

Pulisic was instrumental to Madrid's crushing that year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWzv6KNvk

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raumdeuter:


Kante as CM how many goals did he have?

Kante at Chelsea alone 13 goals in 262 matches

airmark:


We should talk about Casemiro and Busquets since they both played in the same league. Why was it difficult for spineless Busquets to score, but easier for Casemiro in Spain?

I know your football knowledge is limted but people should have told you that Makelele played in Spain as well

Sportsweb:


Kante at Chelsea alone 13 goals in 262 matches

Kante his entire career?

andrewbaba44:


Where is fabregas champions league with Messi

Did fabregas not win super cup and la ligo? Chelsea had a mission to flog dead barka so there was nothing you would have done to stop us. Fabregas was not unproductive like the spanish aki and pawpaw. That's why he got tired of also those oveehyoed average dwarfs to go and destroy premier league with productive assists that Costa benefited from.

These dead barka people featuring raumdeuter just came to spoil our thread since yesterday with this nonsense fraudvi vs scamnesta argument. Mid vs Mid. Rubbish vs Nonsense. Aki vs pawpaw. And popizaino will be following them to drag our legends too.

popizaino:


We will come back to Fabregas/matic/Lampard matter when the time comes for now let dismiss whatever hope you have that a skill-less Lampard will thrive in a typical Spanish system that required every player to at least to be very good at holding the ball under pressure. That is not a system Lampard will thrive but expose himself.

But Rakitic thrive there. Probably you were not a chelsea fan when Lampard played for us, he is not your regular CAM, he was intelligent, strong and efficient.

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MorataFC:
Rhere is no lover of football that will call either Iniesta or Xavi a fraud without a sentimental reason, both are geniuses on the field of play and there the players any club could die for to have in their team.
For Debroslink to say Iniesta gave Xavi a career and for Ibime to praise Xavi over Iniesta shows that both are good but every one with his own cup of tea.
The question is who is better among the 2?

Both are good and complement each other.

If iniesta don’t have a player like messi with that number of goals his genius play would’ve become a curse because who will be scoring and winning difficult games.

A40:
That is because he is the Greatest passenger of all time. Holy shit

Can you believe this joker did not score a single goal in both Euro triumphs. The deeper I dig the worse it is for your boy

You think if Muller had Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Silva, Villa, Fabregas, Torres, Xavi carrying him for club and country he wouldn't have 2 Euros and 4 CLs

Iniesta na benefit boys, his flip and turn after others have done the job gave him an undeserved recognition. A CAM that played with messi who has 700+ Goals doesn’t have 100 assist.

popizaino:



The reason why xavi was so dominant with possession is because of Barcelona style of play and iniesta simple. I have explained it my point on Andrea Pirlo.

Lies, Xavi was tiki taka, when he left barca possession stat reduced, you will not know because messi was still winning decisive games.

popizaino:


The reason why we dominated possession was simply because of Deco not any Lampard anywhere. Deco brought that Barca style that brought about calmness to our midfield with his ability to hold the ball under pressure without losing it. Nothing like Lampard.

Good so same apply to Xavi and not because of iniesta. But the difference is Lampard was useful upfront unlike iniesta that messi was doing his job, iniesta was just there for flip and turn aka shakushaku.

popizaino:


I know iniesta's job without you telling me. Without iniesta in Barca and spain they would retort to a completely different style of chance creation than the usual tiki taka and that would put more pressure on their midfield. This thing is so obvious now.

Iniesta was not the brain behind tiki taka, he was just there to drive the ball to attack but was unproductive while at it. If he was that important to ball possession he won’t be occasionally moved to the wing. Iniesta, Bousquet and Valdez were benefit boys in a Spanish style of play.

airmark:
About to lose Pulisic to Newcastle. I hope we will use the money to buy an upgrade, and not settle for a washed Sterling.

Pulisic was instrumental to Madrid's crushing that year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWzv6KNvk

He should go, the guy is not enforcing play as a winger, always falling to the ground. We can’t win epl with players like Pulisic and Jorginho.

andrewbaba44:


Are you serious ?

Yes. Ronaldo was robbed.

airmark:
About to lose Pulisic to Newcastle. I hope we will use the money to buy an upgrade, and not settle for a washed Sterling.

Pulisic was instrumental to Madrid's crushing that year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWzv6KNvk

I admire and respect your resolve in speaking for Pulisic at Chelsea.

Pulisic needs regular football, sadly, in my opinion, neither Chelsea nor Newcastle will guarantee him that.

Genuine question, do you think Pulisic can be a starter at this Newcastle side?

I am a Barca blood and i would really love for Argentina to win the world cup but this french team scares the shiit out of me.

France has always been the team i fear most in this world cup, not even Brazil.

This french team can go on to win this world cup and even the next world cup in 2026.

Bro!! I am not joking here, this french team are just too talented especially with mbappe.

If eventually Argentina wins Croatia, there are only two ways to win France in the final and they are!!

1) Score the first goal and defend like it's your last day on earth.

2)Even if they equalize, Argentina should still defend like it's their last day on earth and take the game to penalties.

Argentina has 100% Chance of winning the world cup if they can take the game to penalty.

But if they decides to come out and attack France trying to score goals then i tell you, France will win.

That mbappe is a motherforker danger

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